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***OFFICIAL*** WHITE SOX THREAD (2 Viewers)

Sox choked this weekend... golden opportunity to pick up some ground on both the Twins and Tigers and they couldn't get it done against KC. I have been saying it for awhile now, this team has not impressed me in the least the past few months. They are playing soft and the pitching has been terrible except for Garland and Jenks. Not looking good going into the final month of the season :thumbdown: but it should be interesting nonetheless.

 
On September 5th I can officially say that this season is over. The team can't hit. I thought the Tigers hitting would do them in, but man this is getting ridiculous.

I don't see any way that they make the playoffs right now. :cry:

I hope I'm wrong, but at this point I don't see it shaking out any other way. :no:

 
I'm not sure that they are out of the wildcard race because Minnesota currently has one dependable starter, and then lots of question marks - of course, if they get Lariano back, that could change things, but he would need to come back, and pitch at a high level.

Saying that, I'm on the other side of the fence with the White Sox - everyone says that if the pitching comes around, they're be fine - my arguement is that it's been spotty all season, and why would it change now after 140 games have been played ? Garland is fine, and Buerhle seems to be back, but everyone else is hit or miss, with Freddy usually bad.

If the White Sox don't hit, they won't win since their pitching will continue to be inconsistent. They have not been the same hitting team in the 2nd half; they aren't winning the 7-5 games anymore, and if the opposing team puts up 5 or more runs, the White Sox usually lose, where in the 1st half, they were winning these games.

 
Green94 said:
On September 5th I can officially say that this season is over. The team can't hit. I thought the Tigers hitting would do them in, but man this is getting ridiculous. I don't see any way that they make the playoffs right now. :cry: I hope I'm wrong, but at this point I don't see it shaking out any other way. :no:
Is this the hitting you're talking about?- P. Ozuna doubled to left - T. Iguchi sacrificed to catcher, P. Ozuna to third - J. Crede safe at first on third baseman M. Lowell's fielding error - J. Thome walked, J. Crede to second - P. Konerko grounded into double play third to second to first, J. Thome out at second - End of Inning (0 Runs, 1 Hit, 1 Error)
 
Green94 said:
On September 5th I can officially say that this season is over. The team can't hit. I thought the Tigers hitting would do them in, but man this is getting ridiculous. I don't see any way that they make the playoffs right now. :cry: I hope I'm wrong, but at this point I don't see it shaking out any other way. :no:
Is this the hitting you're talking about?- P. Ozuna doubled to left - T. Iguchi sacrificed to catcher, P. Ozuna to third - J. Crede safe at first on third baseman M. Lowell's fielding error - J. Thome walked, J. Crede to second - P. Konerko grounded into double play third to second to first, J. Thome out at second - End of Inning (0 Runs, 1 Hit, 1 Error)
Pretty much. And only could Javy Vazquez have 7 K's in the first 4 innings and be losing.
 
How many ground ball double plays have Paul Konerko grounded into this season ?

It seems as if everytime it's 1st and 3rd, one out, and Konerko batting, we know it isn't going to end good.

 
:pickle: TWINS :pickle:

So glad I have tickets for that final series at the dome!
:headbang: TWINS :headbang: I'll be there as well.
Good to see all of the Twins fans chiming in
Unless the Sox completely fall apart, I still think the wildcard comes down to that last series.
The White Sox are ***officially*** out of the Wild Card
The Twin's will obviously win the Central, but with the Tigers folding right now, the White Sox definately are still in the wild card race.
 
:pickle: TWINS :pickle:

So glad I have tickets for that final series at the dome!
:headbang: TWINS :headbang: I'll be there as well.
Good to see all of the Twins fans chiming in
Unless the Sox completely fall apart, I still think the wildcard comes down to that last series.
The White Sox are ***officially*** out of the Wild Card
The Twin's will obviously win the Central, but with the Tigers folding right now, the White Sox definately are still in the wild card race.
Good luck with that
 
White Sox fans - it definitely is tough to watch this team playing the way it is, but let's not jump off the ship yet.

We shall remember this moment with laughter once we are celebrating yet another World Series Championship in the downtown streets of Chicago!

So everyone, stop :cry: and get on board. Have another :banned:

 
:pickle: TWINS :pickle:

So glad I have tickets for that final series at the dome!
:headbang: TWINS :headbang: I'll be there as well.
Good to see all of the Twins fans chiming in
Unless the Sox completely fall apart, I still think the wildcard comes down to that last series.
The White Sox are ***officially*** out of the Wild Card
The Twin's will obviously win the Central, but with the Tigers folding right now, the White Sox definately are still in the wild card race.
:confused: GRID why are you signing in as Steve Poulydumbous? Have you given up on the Sux?

 
White Sox fans - it definitely is tough to watch this team playing the way it is, but let's not jump off the ship yet.

We shall remember this moment with laughter once we are celebrating yet another World Series Championship in the downtown streets of Chicago!

So everyone, stop :cry: and get on board. Have another :banned:
Time to focus our attention on DA BEARS
 
:pickle: TWINS :pickle:

So glad I have tickets for that final series at the dome!
:headbang: TWINS :headbang: I'll be there as well.
Good to see all of the Twins fans chiming in
Unless the Sox completely fall apart, I still think the wildcard comes down to that last series.
The White Sox are ***officially*** out of the Wild Card
The Twin's will obviously win the Central, but with the Tigers folding right now, the White Sox definately are still in the wild card race.
Good luck with that
I wouldn't be surprised if this weekend ends with the Twins leading the division. Drive Slow Homey.

 
Doom and Gloom coming from Green. Sad to see.

only 1/2 game out of the WC, if they hold on tonight, and I agree that the Tigers are falling and falling fast.

This is far from over for any of the teams involved

 
White Sox fans - it definitely is tough to watch this team playing the way it is, but let's not jump off the ship yet.

We shall remember this moment with laughter once we are celebrating yet another World Series Championship in the downtown streets of Chicago!

So everyone, stop :cry: and get on board. Have another :banned:
Time to focus our attention on DA BEARS
White Sox Win! White Sox Win!Let's get on a roll....

Tigers are falling apart, Twins are hit or miss without Santana on the mound, let's get this bus moving!

:banned: :banned: :banned: :banned:

 
White Sox fans - it definitely is tough to watch this team playing the way it is, but let's not jump off the ship yet.

We shall remember this moment with laughter once we are celebrating yet another World Series Championship in the downtown streets of Chicago!

So everyone, stop :cry: and get on board. Have another :banned:
Time to focus our attention on DA BEARS
White Sox Win! White Sox Win!Let's get on a roll....

Tigers are falling apart, Twins are hit or miss without Santana on the mound, let's get this bus moving!

:banned: :banned: :banned: :banned:
Javy and Jose looked good the past few days as well as Big Jon continuing to roll this season. Nice to see the hitting show up tonight as well... too inconsistent for me though.
 
If we can't win games that we're winning with Big Bad Bobby Jenks entering the game, it just isn't going to happen for the White Sox.

Jenks must be injured....so dominant before, then a hip injury, and now this ? Blows a game vs. Boston, and now vs. Cleveland ???

C'mon Bobby, strap it down!

 
White Sox fans - it definitely is tough to watch this team playing the way it is, but let's not jump off the ship yet.We shall remember this moment with laughter once we are celebrating yet another World Series Championship in the downtown streets of Chicago!So everyone, stop :cry: and get on board. Have another :banned:
AJ! AJ! AJ! AJ! AJ! :banned:
 
Huge win tonight.

They don't lose ground to the Twins and gain ground on the Tigers

Still 1/2 game out of WC and 4 1/2 out of the central

GO WHITE SOX!!!!!!!!!

 
That 4.5 is a hump that the White Sox have gotten to several times now, and just can't get over in their quest to catch the Tigers....Maybe, a big win like this can get them going!

 
That 4.5 is a hump that the White Sox have gotten to several times now, and just can't get over in their quest to catch the Tigers....Maybe, a big win like this can get them going!
The Sox need Detroit to win and keep winning. No chance to catch the Tigers.
 
That 4.5 is a hump that the White Sox have gotten to several times now, and just can't get over in their quest to catch the Tigers....Maybe, a big win like this can get them going!
The Sox need Detroit to win and keep winning. No chance to catch the Tigers.
Really, though, none of this matters unless the White Sox can take 3 of 4 vs. the Tribe. I don't care if Sabathia is pitching on Sunday, this is not the time to be splitting series, and playing average/below average ball.At some point, they need to win 9 of 11, 8 of 10 instead of the 6 of 9 losses after tonight's game.
 
Green94 said:
Spiderman said:
That 4.5 is a hump that the White Sox have gotten to several times now, and just can't get over in their quest to catch the Tigers....Maybe, a big win like this can get them going!
The Sox need Detroit to win and keep winning. No chance to catch the Tigers.
Yeah noone has ever made up 3.5 games in 3 weeks. Question: What do the 2006 Tigers and 69 Cubs have in common? Answer: Everything. Go Sox. Although I would much rather have the Tigs in the playoffs rather than the Twinks.
 
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I see the D-Rays are making their outfielders available...Kenny Williams has been drooling over these guys for quite some time, I think he is going to make a big push for one of them, specifically Baldelli.

 
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Be patient, something will happen with the White Sox, whether it's today, next week, or in January.

This Brandon McCarthy in the minors next season talk by Kenny Williams is nothing more than Williams attempting to sell the idea that he doesn't have to trade a veteran starter.

I am happy the White Sox aren't dipping into this free agent market - believe me, there are going to be some teams wishing they hadn't overspent on some of these guys in about 2 years.

 
I'm not sure what is so bad about possibly sending McCarthy to the minors. He's young. He didn't do that hot in a limited role, not sure why he should be expected to be a reliable starter. If the pitching staff thinks he's ready, why not move Vasquez into the pen? Javier has some sick stuff, but seemed to run out of gas in the 5th and 6th and then get shelled. Seems like he'd be a deadly middle reliever. Why do the Sox have to move anybody?

 
I'm not sure what is so bad about possibly sending McCarthy to the minors. He's young. He didn't do that hot in a limited role, not sure why he should be expected to be a reliable starter. If the pitching staff thinks he's ready, why not move Vasquez into the pen? Javier has some sick stuff, but seemed to run out of gas in the 5th and 6th and then get shelled. Seems like he'd be a deadly middle reliever. Why do the Sox have to move anybody?
They don't HAVE to move anybody, but I think they would like to if they can get some younger pitchers in return, and free up some $$$ from the pitcher they would be moving.
 
I'm not sure what is so bad about possibly sending McCarthy to the minors. He's young. He didn't do that hot in a limited role, not sure why he should be expected to be a reliable starter. If the pitching staff thinks he's ready, why not move Vasquez into the pen? Javier has some sick stuff, but seemed to run out of gas in the 5th and 6th and then get shelled. Seems like he'd be a deadly middle reliever. Why do the Sox have to move anybody?
They don't HAVE to move anybody, but I think they would like to if they can get some younger pitchers in return, and free up some $$$ from the pitcher they would be moving.
I'd like them to have a nasty pitching staff. If they can get better pitching, I'm all for it. But I don't see why a team who is a contender would want to unload veterans for prospects. I don't want to see some experiement in the rotation with a younger, unproven guy just because he is cheap. Unless they have lost confidence in a guy like Vasquez or Garcia and don't feel they are worth what they are paying them, I don't see a move to prospects as necessarily a good thing. Detroit had success with their young guys, but I'd imagine a prospect the caliber of Verlander would cost more than Garcia or Vasquez. The only hole I see is center, but I seem to be in the minority with my criticism of Anderson compared to most Sox fans.
 
I'm not sure what is so bad about possibly sending McCarthy to the minors. He's young. He didn't do that hot in a limited role, not sure why he should be expected to be a reliable starter. If the pitching staff thinks he's ready, why not move Vasquez into the pen? Javier has some sick stuff, but seemed to run out of gas in the 5th and 6th and then get shelled. Seems like he'd be a deadly middle reliever. Why do the Sox have to move anybody?
They don't HAVE to move anybody, but I think they would like to if they can get some younger pitchers in return, and free up some $$$ from the pitcher they would be moving.
I'd like them to have a nasty pitching staff. If they can get better pitching, I'm all for it. But I don't see why a team who is a contender would want to unload veterans for prospects. I don't want to see some experiement in the rotation with a younger, unproven guy just because he is cheap. Unless they have lost confidence in a guy like Vasquez or Garcia and don't feel they are worth what they are paying them, I don't see a move to prospects as necessarily a good thing. Detroit had success with their young guys, but I'd imagine a prospect the caliber of Verlander would cost more than Garcia or Vasquez. The only hole I see is center, but I seem to be in the minority with my criticism of Anderson compared to most Sox fans.
I'm in agreement with you for the most part, but I do believe that McCarthy can step in and pitch no worse than what we saw in the rotation from Garcia, Vasquez etc. So, from that line of thought, they could keep the rotation as strong as last year, get McCarthy out of the bullpen, and add 1 or 2 high level prospects because it's unlikely the Sox are going to be in the free agent market much for starting pitching, given that they don't offer anything beyond 3-4 years tops.Don't be surprised if the Sox, should they trade, get a top level prospect back - there are so many teams desperate for veteran starters, and Chicago has a few with proven track records.
 
I'm not sure what is so bad about possibly sending McCarthy to the minors. He's young. He didn't do that hot in a limited role, not sure why he should be expected to be a reliable starter. If the pitching staff thinks he's ready, why not move Vasquez into the pen? Javier has some sick stuff, but seemed to run out of gas in the 5th and 6th and then get shelled. Seems like he'd be a deadly middle reliever. Why do the Sox have to move anybody?
They don't HAVE to move anybody, but I think they would like to if they can get some younger pitchers in return, and free up some $$$ from the pitcher they would be moving.
I'd like them to have a nasty pitching staff. If they can get better pitching, I'm all for it. But I don't see why a team who is a contender would want to unload veterans for prospects. I don't want to see some experiement in the rotation with a younger, unproven guy just because he is cheap. Unless they have lost confidence in a guy like Vasquez or Garcia and don't feel they are worth what they are paying them, I don't see a move to prospects as necessarily a good thing. Detroit had success with their young guys, but I'd imagine a prospect the caliber of Verlander would cost more than Garcia or Vasquez. The only hole I see is center, but I seem to be in the minority with my criticism of Anderson compared to most Sox fans.
I'm in agreement with you for the most part, but I do believe that McCarthy can step in and pitch no worse than what we saw in the rotation from Garcia, Vasquez etc. So, from that line of thought, they could keep the rotation as strong as last year, get McCarthy out of the bullpen, and add 1 or 2 high level prospects because it's unlikely the Sox are going to be in the free agent market much for starting pitching, given that they don't offer anything beyond 3-4 years tops.Don't be surprised if the Sox, should they trade, get a top level prospect back - there are so many teams desperate for veteran starters, and Chicago has a few with proven track records.
I could see a trade of a starter for some bullpen help. They look scary thin there. If they do move a vet and get McCarthy out of the pen, they had better get some relievers. I can't believe they let Cotts go. There seems to be a huge void there, especailly if they do put McCarthy in the rotation.
 
cubd8 said:
I'm not sure what is so bad about possibly sending McCarthy to the minors. He's young. He didn't do that hot in a limited role, not sure why he should be expected to be a reliable starter. If the pitching staff thinks he's ready, why not move Vasquez into the pen? Javier has some sick stuff, but seemed to run out of gas in the 5th and 6th and then get shelled. Seems like he'd be a deadly middle reliever. Why do the Sox have to move anybody?
They don't HAVE to move anybody, but I think they would like to if they can get some younger pitchers in return, and free up some $$$ from the pitcher they would be moving.
I'd like them to have a nasty pitching staff. If they can get better pitching, I'm all for it. But I don't see why a team who is a contender would want to unload veterans for prospects. I don't want to see some experiement in the rotation with a younger, unproven guy just because he is cheap. Unless they have lost confidence in a guy like Vasquez or Garcia and don't feel they are worth what they are paying them, I don't see a move to prospects as necessarily a good thing. Detroit had success with their young guys, but I'd imagine a prospect the caliber of Verlander would cost more than Garcia or Vasquez. The only hole I see is center, but I seem to be in the minority with my criticism of Anderson compared to most Sox fans.
I'm in agreement with you for the most part, but I do believe that McCarthy can step in and pitch no worse than what we saw in the rotation from Garcia, Vasquez etc. So, from that line of thought, they could keep the rotation as strong as last year, get McCarthy out of the bullpen, and add 1 or 2 high level prospects because it's unlikely the Sox are going to be in the free agent market much for starting pitching, given that they don't offer anything beyond 3-4 years tops.Don't be surprised if the Sox, should they trade, get a top level prospect back - there are so many teams desperate for veteran starters, and Chicago has a few with proven track records.
Well, they did exactly what I thought they'd do, but that doesn't mean I'm happy about it.
 

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