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timschochet
Footballguy
1.Addai2. LT3. FWP
NatronIsMean
Footballguy
I say:1. LT2. Ronnie Brown (TDs put him over FWP)3. Addai
switz
Footballguy
Yeah, but maybe not in that order...
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awesomeness
Guest
FWP doesnt have any TD's and is losing goal line carries to davenport. I would say:
LT, Westbrook, Addai
LT, Westbrook, Addai
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Gopher State
Footballguy
LT
WESTBROOK
PORTIS ( I see having a very strong second half)
WESTBROOK
PORTIS ( I see having a very strong second half)
Avery
Footballguy
Ally-oop...
Redraft, going forward?
LT
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It's a mess.
Addai/Westbrook/Rudi/SJAX health issues. Parker TD issues. LJ life issues. Gore team issues.
I don't think there's a clear 2, 3, 4 or 5.
SJAX/LJ/Gore have the talent to light it up in the 2nd half. Westbrook is a monster when healthy. Addai is money if he's healthy.
I'm not sure I'd alter my rankings all that much from 5 weeks ago. I remember two years ago when Rudi stunk it up in the first 8 games, then was on fire in the 2nd half. The end of season numbers usually look as expect, but they are rarely consistent week to week.
LT
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It's a mess.
Addai/Westbrook/Rudi/SJAX health issues. Parker TD issues. LJ life issues. Gore team issues.
I don't think there's a clear 2, 3, 4 or 5.
SJAX/LJ/Gore have the talent to light it up in the 2nd half. Westbrook is a monster when healthy. Addai is money if he's healthy.
I'm not sure I'd alter my rankings all that much from 5 weeks ago. I remember two years ago when Rudi stunk it up in the first 8 games, then was on fire in the 2nd half. The end of season numbers usually look as expect, but they are rarely consistent week to week.
thecardiackid
Footballguy
Ok, I'll bite...Why the eff would you give RB - a guy tearing up the league currently, for SJax - seriously injured on a bad team? Dynasty - I guess there may be hope, but if you're trying to turn around a team this year, you just sealed your fate.1. LT2. Addai3 R Brown
Blue-Kun
Footballguy
1) LT
2) Ronnie Brown
3) Addai
4) Westbrook
5) Adrian Peterson
But really the last few are a total crapshoot at the moment, FWP or Gore I guess? Who even knows anymore.
Ronnie Brown has 5 more games against pathetic rush defenses (All ranked in the bottom 5 for rushing yards, which means they've been giving up 148 yards or higher on average) a few average ones and then the 2 games against the Pats and games against the Ravens and Steelers. The unfortunate part of the schedule is Brown has a terrible playoff schedule (week 15 against Balt and week 16 @ NE), but if he can keep up his high rate of production against the weak half of his schedule I expect him to finish in the top 3 due to weak scoring across the RB position. It's not so much that RB has been excelling on the whole, it's that he puts up major numbers when the defenses are weak.
That's the main reason I put LT up there. At the moment he's #2 in PPR leagues behind Brown, but I'd guess LT has betters on breaking out against a good defense than Brown.
Addai would be #1, but it depends on how much the injury limits him (or the coaching staff limits his touches) the first few games if they want to ease him back by using Kenton Keith. Westbrook is an enigma, because you're never quite sure if he'll miss significant time or not. If he doesn't, he'll likely be a lock for top 5 production.
Adrian Peterson is just blowing out expectations and with the Minny offense being completely inept except to give him the ball, his numbers will likely stay up there all season. Man everything sucks though.
2) Ronnie Brown
3) Addai
4) Westbrook
5) Adrian Peterson
But really the last few are a total crapshoot at the moment, FWP or Gore I guess? Who even knows anymore.
Ronnie Brown has 5 more games against pathetic rush defenses (All ranked in the bottom 5 for rushing yards, which means they've been giving up 148 yards or higher on average) a few average ones and then the 2 games against the Pats and games against the Ravens and Steelers. The unfortunate part of the schedule is Brown has a terrible playoff schedule (week 15 against Balt and week 16 @ NE), but if he can keep up his high rate of production against the weak half of his schedule I expect him to finish in the top 3 due to weak scoring across the RB position. It's not so much that RB has been excelling on the whole, it's that he puts up major numbers when the defenses are weak.
That's the main reason I put LT up there. At the moment he's #2 in PPR leagues behind Brown, but I'd guess LT has betters on breaking out against a good defense than Brown.
Addai would be #1, but it depends on how much the injury limits him (or the coaching staff limits his touches) the first few games if they want to ease him back by using Kenton Keith. Westbrook is an enigma, because you're never quite sure if he'll miss significant time or not. If he doesn't, he'll likely be a lock for top 5 production.
Adrian Peterson is just blowing out expectations and with the Minny offense being completely inept except to give him the ball, his numbers will likely stay up there all season. Man everything sucks though.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
As long as Mike Sellers isn't part of goal line packages.....and Betts is no longer "the man" at the end of the game.FWIW, I own Portis,,,& Betts; it's killing me to see anyone other than Portis get the goal line action
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
Peterson
Portis
Tomlinson
Portis
Tomlinson
OU#1
Footballguy
Glad to see ADP getting some mention here. All the guy has done so far is produce in a completely inept offense with a completely inept coaching staff.
He's done great things when people expect him to not do much. Week 4 is a great example:
1. Nobody gives him a chance since GB has this "amazing" rush defense that stuffed the likes of LT.
2. RBBC is back in full effect since CT is back. 60/40 split in carries for ADP/CT (12/8).
3. Out of 65 total snaps CT is on for 40 and ADP is on for 25 (think they shared a snap too).
4. CBS Sportsline labels him the "bust of the week".
5. Minny still has no passing game to speak of making ADP easier to bottle up.
6. If ADP is not playing every down then odds are good he's getting the ball when he enters the game (again making him easier to defend).
How does ADP respond? The guy has 12 carries for 112 yards and 1 catch for 6 yards while only playing 25 snaps in the whole game.
Sure it's a small data sample, but IMHO the only thing keeping him out of Top 3/5 is his .5 TD average. I am thinking Minny will eventually get their passing game going, the coaches will figure out they need to give ADP 20-25 touches per game, and ADP will start scoring TD's to back up his 137 YPG.
Lastly for you RBBC doubters:
In the first three games with CT out: 24 touches, 143 YPG, and 5.98 yards per touch
In game four with 60/40 RBBC: 13 touches, 112 YPG, and 9.08 yards per touch
I can't wait to see the forums on fire when he throws up his first 200/2 game.
He's done great things when people expect him to not do much. Week 4 is a great example:
1. Nobody gives him a chance since GB has this "amazing" rush defense that stuffed the likes of LT.
2. RBBC is back in full effect since CT is back. 60/40 split in carries for ADP/CT (12/8).
3. Out of 65 total snaps CT is on for 40 and ADP is on for 25 (think they shared a snap too).
4. CBS Sportsline labels him the "bust of the week".
5. Minny still has no passing game to speak of making ADP easier to bottle up.
6. If ADP is not playing every down then odds are good he's getting the ball when he enters the game (again making him easier to defend).
How does ADP respond? The guy has 12 carries for 112 yards and 1 catch for 6 yards while only playing 25 snaps in the whole game.
Sure it's a small data sample, but IMHO the only thing keeping him out of Top 3/5 is his .5 TD average. I am thinking Minny will eventually get their passing game going, the coaches will figure out they need to give ADP 20-25 touches per game, and ADP will start scoring TD's to back up his 137 YPG.
Lastly for you RBBC doubters:
In the first three games with CT out: 24 touches, 143 YPG, and 5.98 yards per touch
In game four with 60/40 RBBC: 13 touches, 112 YPG, and 9.08 yards per touch
I can't wait to see the forums on fire when he throws up his first 200/2 game.
Fantasy Fix Fred
Footballguy
LT
Colts RB
FWP
Colts RB
FWP
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Dynasty drafts next yr should be very interesting...
Addai will be #1 unless he suffers a serious injury,
if Mai gets some offensive help this offense.. you can talk me into Ronnie Brown as #2,
then LT2,
Jeez... after that, its a toss up.. ADP / Portis / FWP (1 PPR) / Westy / SJax / Bush / Maroney / even the Burner if he goes to Denver
man.. you can talk me into any of those guys as #4. The RB class is getting a major shake up next year...
Addai will be #1 unless he suffers a serious injury,
if Mai gets some offensive help this offense.. you can talk me into Ronnie Brown as #2,
then LT2,
Jeez... after that, its a toss up.. ADP / Portis / FWP (1 PPR) / Westy / SJax / Bush / Maroney / even the Burner if he goes to Denver
man.. you can talk me into any of those guys as #4. The RB class is getting a major shake up next year...
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fsufan
Footballguy
I would still take LT #1 in a start up dynasty league. He has got 3 great years in front of him. for the rest of this year1. LT2. Addai3. Brown
War Eagle
Footballguy
This is my list even without PPR. 1. LT...well he's LT...he will get going and start piling up TDs.2. Ronnie - Cam has seen the light. Ronnie is the Miami offence. If it wasn't for the lack of touches in the first 2 games, he may break LJ's carries mark set last year.3. Reggie.....Take a quick look at New Orleans remaining schedule....6 Sun, Oct 14 at Seattle 8:15 PM - allows 115 rush ypg7 Sun, Oct 21 Atlanta 1:00 PM - allows 121 rush ypg 8 Sun, Oct 28 at San Francisco 4:15 PM - allows 124 rush ypg 9 Sun, Nov 4 Jacksonville 1:00 PM - allows 105 rush ypg 10 Sun, Nov 11 St. Louis 1:00 PM - allows 146 rush ypg 11 Sun, Nov 18 at Houston 1:00 PM - allows 91 rush ypg 12 Sun, Nov 25 at Carolina 1:00 PM - allows 112 rush ypg 13 Sun, Dec 2 Tampa Bay 1:00 PM - allows 124 rush ypg 14 Mon, Dec 10 at Atlanta 8:30 PM - allows 121 rush ypg 15 Sun, Dec 16 Arizona 1:00 PM - allows 101 rush ypg 16 Sun, Dec 23 Philadelphia 1:00 PM - allows 74 rush ypg 17 Sun, Dec 30 at Chicago 1:00 PM - allows 98 rush ypg I think that Bush has the opportunity to put together very solid stats throughout the remainder of the season.
Horses Mouth
Footballguy
and Green was that much better? There are a lot of Ronnie Brown cynics on this board. Since preseason he's shown a lot of heart and this isn't going to stop. He's that good IMO.A lot of Ronnie Brown love with Cleo Lemon at the helm.
Islander
Footballguy
his last QB was trent green and he was doing just fine with him,A lot of Ronnie Brown love with Cleo Lemon at the helm.
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ScoobyDoo
Footballguy
Not FWP. Not even close.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I hear ya on Reggie... hes is at a very decent $$ right now for dynasty... however; he does have to put together a couple of games before I call him the #3 back... and the way the passing offense looks... even a nice SOS may not help.
Just to answer the question... I am always looking to trade high. RBrown was sharing time early and I had dropped him at one point and picked him back up the next week, when no one else wanted him. So, 2 weeks go by and I am offered top 2-3 RB for him. Done.... Plus RBrowns playoff schedule is very difficult. It is a long season. Jax will be back. Good is good. Jax is good and the Rams are good. The cream will rise.
Also I have Bush and ADP
(starting 2).
OK so consensus #1 is still LT. Then Addai and Westy, although I am loving the Bush talk. I agree he has one of the easiest schedules coming up and in the playoffs, but he is frustrating the crap out of me.
Also I have Bush and ADP
(starting 2).OK so consensus #1 is still LT. Then Addai and Westy, although I am loving the Bush talk. I agree he has one of the easiest schedules coming up and in the playoffs, but he is frustrating the crap out of me.
Islander
Footballguy
Just to answer the question... I am always looking to trade high. RBrown was sharing time early and I had dropped him at one point and picked him back up the next week, when no one else wanted him. So, 2 weeks go by and I am offered top 2-3 RB for him. Done.... Plus RBrowns playoff schedule is very difficult. It is a long season. Jax will be back. Good is good. Jax is good and the Rams are good. The cream will rise.
Also I have Bush and ADP(starting 2).
OK so consensus #1 is still LT. Then Addai and Westy, although I am loving the Bush talk. I agree he has one of the easiest schedules coming up and in the playoffs, but he is frustrating the crap out of me.
Guys - I have Portis. enough with Portis SOD man love. he hasn't done much. He's been a middle of the pack, ok start, if he gets in the end zone. He has 20 touches against DET at home, and didn't shine. I'm hoping he breaks out at some point, but he'll prob be on my bench and on others when he does. Why should we think that after 1/3 of the season that he'll be the Portis of old ever again?????
and Green was that much better? There are a lot of Ronnie Brown cynics on this board. Since preseason he's shown a lot of heart and this isn't going to stop. He's that good IMO.A lot of Ronnie Brown love with Cleo Lemon at the helm.
shadyridr
Footballguy
agreed. My hopes for a huge season out of Portis have tempered. Not even 100 yds rushing yet.
timschochet
Footballguy
I have been ripped on this site for my pick of FWP at #3. I don't own the guy, although I am a Steeler fan so I see him a lot. The main criticism seems to be that Najeh is vulturing goal line carries. But if you watch the Steelers, that is a matter of situational football more so than a pattern that will continue throughout the year. Najeh is too inconsistent. FWP already gets a large number of carries, and as the weather gets colder, he's going to rack up much more yardage than these other guys you are mentioning. He's tough, physical, with no injury history, either. And the TD's will come. Projecting over the rest of the year (which I thought this thread was about) I am firmly convinced FWP is the #3 guy.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Remember... CP is still getting into Game Shape.. I see a late season surge coming.
I hope your right, but I don't buy it.....I forgot to mention he has lost goal line carries in at least two of the games.
SJax is getting no love because the O-line looks awful, the QB situation is far from good and the WR's are getting pretty old. Being the only big threat on the team does not work out really well for most guys. LJ is in the same boat.
glock
"Don't grumble, give a whistle!"
Actually only week 16 vs MIN and 17/DAL suxor. Weeks 12-15 are
Of course 16 is my championship game sooo...I am a FWP owner. I've watched all of the Steeler games this year. According to the Steelers FWP is the goal line back. He comes out of the games only when he takes himself out. Unfortunately for me (and other FWP owners) he took himself out near the goal line twice Sunday. Once was after a long run (20-30 yds?) where he pushed out at the one. The other time was after carrying many times to bring them close.I think he has as good a chance as any other back besides LT of finishing top three. Unlike others he is healthy and he is on a run-friendly team. The TD's will come.timschochet said:
Wally Cleaver
Footballguy
I have higher hopes for Portis now than I have all year... Betts role in the last game was one in which he only spelled Portis when he was tired, he did not receive or start any full drives... Portis was in there on goalline but they ran Porits one way and handed off to Sellers going the other... It's not as if Sellers is the new goalline back, it was a misdirection play, it's as simple as that. Portis is rounding in to shape and looks to be able to stay on the field longer, and Campbell seems to be settling in nicely... This will sustain drives and keep Portis out there. Also, the offensive line hasn't blocked very well yet, Betts looked great last year but has been pretty abysmal this year, and it is mostly due to blocking, if the line starts to gel like it did in the second half last year Portis is going to have a huge second half... I have watched every game this year and I dont believe Portis has lost a step...shadyridr said:
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
1. Clinton Portis
2. LT
3. Ronnie Brown
2. LT
3. Ronnie Brown
OU#1
Footballguy
So is ADP top 3/5 now?Glad to see ADP getting some mention here. All the guy has done so far is produce in a completely inept offense with a completely inept coaching staff.
He's done great things when people expect him to not do much. Week 4 is a great example:
1. Nobody gives him a chance since GB has this "amazing" rush defense that stuffed the likes of LT.
2. RBBC is back in full effect since CT is back. 60/40 split in carries for ADP/CT (12/8).
3. Out of 65 total snaps CT is on for 40 and ADP is on for 25 (think they shared a snap too).
4. CBS Sportsline labels him the "bust of the week".
5. Minny still has no passing game to speak of making ADP easier to bottle up.
6. If ADP is not playing every down then odds are good he's getting the ball when he enters the game (again making him easier to defend).
How does ADP respond? The guy has 12 carries for 112 yards and 1 catch for 6 yards while only playing 25 snaps in the whole game.
Sure it's a small data sample, but IMHO the only thing keeping him out of Top 3/5 is his .5 TD average. I am thinking Minny will eventually get their passing game going, the coaches will figure out they need to give ADP 20-25 touches per game, and ADP will start scoring TD's to back up his 137 YPG.
Lastly for you RBBC doubters:
In the first three games with CT out: 24 touches, 143 YPG, and 5.98 yards per touch
In game four with 60/40 RBBC: 13 touches, 112 YPG, and 9.08 yards per touch
I can't wait to see the forums on fire when he throws up his first 200/2 game.
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