Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶‍♂️ (2 Viewers)

[Tecumseh]

Day 16/100

Was able to catch up on all my lost sleep by getting about 11 hours last night. Woke up at 3 and ran in the park. Total of somewhere between 3.1-3.3mi. I did run 2.6mi without a walk break, which I have not been able to do in years. Working tonight, so that’ll be another 7-10K steps, depending on how busy I am.

Bank: $160

 

[AAABatteries]

I haven’t weighed myself in a while.  I decided to start doing my morning protein and creating shake after the gym on lifting days, and to try and build muscle again. I’m sure I’ve put on weight, some good, some bad.  Have to eventually shed the fat.  But the good news is I’m getting stronger again in the gym and starting to approach my peak lifting numbers, and I can see the muscle in my upper body and legs, so I know it’s working.  I’ve tried to go easy on the junk food and drinking, and have moderated a bit on both.  So, eating a bit cleaner.  At some point I need to go total clean eating and cut the booze, probably stop the protein shakes for a bit, to shed the belly.  But for now, it’s all systems go on DadBod.

It was a run.

 

[AAABatteries]

I’m starting to see some noticeable (yet small) changes in my muscle definition and body fat.  I really need to get a scale or body fat test.  4 days in Nashville and managed to come back down a little

Dropping the last 10-15 pounds of fat is going to be tough

 

[Tecumseh]

Day 17/100

Worked last night, so my wife had Father's Day breakfast made for me when I got home. Got to sleep about 9, intending to get up at 2. Wound up waking up at 3, hit the gym for upper body day, then destroyed some Mexican food for dinner with the family.

Bank: $170

 

[Otis]

It was a run.

Just put batteries back in my scale.  Weighed in at 247.  That's like 20lbs more than when I last weighed myself.  Sweet jeebus.

 

[AAABatteries]

Just put batteries back in my scale.  Weighed in at 247.  That's like 20lbs more than when I last weighed myself.  Sweet jeebus.

 

[Bull Dozier]

Resetting after just two weeks.  Wife texted me this morning and said she wanted to go back on Keto. This is most likely due to the two of us going to a cabin for the weekend, where we proceeded to eat out every meal.  Greasy spoon diners in the middle of central Minnesota.  Good food, not good for the belt.  So here I am starting again after just two weeks at day 1 - 195.  Yes, this is three pounds heavier than when I "started" two weeks ago, but this weekend did me in.  Third round (I think) of keto, here we go.

Day 1 - 195
1 Week Check in - 189.5
Weekly Loss - 5.5
Loss to date - 5.5

1st week of Keto, always big.  So far so good.

 

[Tecumseh]

Day 18/100

Have to work tonight, and I woke up a little late. Quick dash up to the gym, did 20 mins of sprints and a little bit on the elliptical. The streak is alive! I also have to work tomorrow night, so I am packing a bag to go to the gym when I get off work tomorrow morning. Think I'm going to try the rowing machine for the first time.

Bank: $180

 

[DocHolliday]

Just put batteries back in my scale.  Weighed in at 247.  That's like 20lbs more than when I last weighed myself.  Sweet jeebus.

You have been working out so it is probably all muscle.  

 

[The Big Donkey]

Just put batteries back in my scale.  Weighed in at 247.  That's like 20lbs more than when I last weighed myself.  Sweet jeebus.

Perhaps a thread title update is due?   Attainable goals.

 

[Frostillicus]

-17.6 lbs through 2.5 months doing keto at first, and now a low carb but less strict thing.  Going well.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Just put batteries back in my scale.  Weighed in at 247.  That's like 20lbs more than when I last weighed myself.  Sweet jeebus.

Inweigh less than you, now.

 

[culdeus]

Inweigh less than you, now.

So do 87% of all adult males. (Speaking of Otis)

 

[Frostillicus]

So do 87% of all adult males. (Speaking of Otis)

I almost do!  So close!

 

[Otis]

Just put batteries back in my scale.  Weighed in at 247.  That's like 20lbs more than when I last weighed myself.  Sweet jeebus.

When I got on my Fitbit Aria scale and weighed myself, instead of showing my initials after I weighed in, it just said “GUEST”. 

It assumed I literally must have been a different person. 

 

[Tool]

Day 13/100

Ran 2.5mi at the park, then went to the gym for upper body day. Those dumbbell pullovers are really good. Hits a ton of different muscles. I like it.

Bank: $130 

just jumping in here, what's a dumbbell pullover?

 

[Otis]

In fairness, I weighed in this morning at 239.1. And this is after a couple of months  of lifting and doing the protein shakes/creatine thing. And I actually have put on a decent bit of muscle that I can see.  My plan is to do this a bit longer — maybe a few weeks — and then roll off the shakes, lighten up the weights and do longer sets, and start limiting my calories and watching what I eat more (cutting sugars and limiting carbs).  I figure I do that for a bit, then eventually roll back to a bulking phase again etc. 

 

[Deepster]

In fairness, I weighed in this morning at 239.1. And this is after a couple of months  of lifting and doing the protein shakes/creatine thing. And I actually have put on a decent bit of muscle that I can see.  My plan is to do this a bit longer — maybe a few weeks — and then roll off the shakes, lighten up the weights and do longer sets, and start limiting my calories and watching what I eat more (cutting sugars and limiting carbs).  I figure I do that for a bit, then eventually roll back to a bulking phase again etc. 

Just went back to Page 1 of this thread to find your first weigh-in.

May 15, 2016 = 231.6.

221 pages and 11,000+ replies later, you're only up 7.5 lbs.  I guess that's a win of sorts. 

 

[AAABatteries]

Just went back to Page 1 of this thread to find your first weigh-in.

May 15, 2016 = 231.6.

221 pages and 11,000+ replies later, you're only up 7.5 lbs OF PURE MUSCLE.  I guess that's a win of sorts. 

FYP

Otis is looking like a Greek god I'm sure.

 

[AAABatteries]

Not sure whether to ask this in here or the Keto thread - @culdeus

So, I've really ramped up my exercise the last few weeks.  I also am continuing to do IF with no issues but I still occassionally try and do 24-48 hour fasts.  Is this a bad idea doing both?  It becomes really tough, I get super hungry.  I'm just wondering if when I do a planned fast if I should scale back and/or eliminate the workouts before and then during the fast.  Granted it's just a day or two so there's probably no real science either way but just curious your thoughts.

 

[culdeus]

Not sure whether to ask this in here or the Keto thread - @culdeus

So, I've really ramped up my exercise the last few weeks.  I also am continuing to do IF with no issues but I still occassionally try and do 24-48 hour fasts.  Is this a bad idea doing both?  It becomes really tough, I get super hungry.  I'm just wondering if when I do a planned fast if I should scale back and/or eliminate the workouts before and then during the fast.  Granted it's just a day or two so there's probably no real science either way but just curious your thoughts.

You can do it.  It is probably good for your goals but expect to be ####### miserable.  Over time you can adapt to it. 

LISS fasted makes more sense just from a quality of life perspective imo. 

 

[culdeus]

Not sure whether to ask this in here or the Keto thread - @culdeus

So, I've really ramped up my exercise the last few weeks.  I also am continuing to do IF with no issues but I still occassionally try and do 24-48 hour fasts.  Is this a bad idea doing both?  It becomes really tough, I get super hungry.  I'm just wondering if when I do a planned fast if I should scale back and/or eliminate the workouts before and then during the fast.  Granted it's just a day or two so there's probably no real science either way but just curious your thoughts.

I mean my general philosophy is still you eat less to lose fat and workout to gain muscle.  

When you try to use each of those with the other purpose you are already making things harder for yourself than is absolutely necessary.  So why not chose the efficient mechanisms that are well tested?

That being said a total body resistance (i.e. not a bro split) fasted is a proven method for a lot of big bros.  It just sounds miserable.

 

[Tecumseh]

just jumping in here, what's a dumbbell pullover?

I just typed out a long response, but my phone crapped out. Best bet is to just google it. It will pop right up.

 

[Tecumseh]

Day 19/100

Went straight from work to the gym this morning. It was struggle because I was pretty beat, but sucked it up and did 30 mins on the elliptical and then just 5 on the rower. The rower was hurting my lower back, but I think that was more just an issue with my form. Working again tonight. Weather is supposed to be ####ty tomorrow, so I will probably just get normal rest and hit the gym tomorrow night for a short run and upper body work.

Bank: $190

 

[Tool]

I just typed out a long response, but my phone crapped out. Best bet is to just google it. It will pop right up.

Thanks for the effort. There is a video just watched, should've prob just done that initially but had never heard of those before didn't realize was common exercise.

 

[Otis]

238.5

28.5lbs to goal. If only I could get serious for 2-3 months, should be able to knock that out no problem. 

 

[MAC_32]

238.5

28.5lbs to goal. If only I could get serious for 2-3 months, should be able to knock that out no problem. 

The problem is as simple as you viewing it as being serious for 2-3 months and not a new normal.  Even if you do get serious for 2-3 months and attain your goal you'll just fall back down the slide once you stop being serious about it again.

If you're not willing to make it a new normal you'll probably be happier if you just accept life as a fat guy.  At least until health problems start anyway.

 

[Otis]

The problem is as simple as you viewing it as being serious for 2-3 months and not a new normal.  Even if you do get serious for 2-3 months and attain your goal you'll just fall back down the slide once you stop being serious about it again.

If you're not willing to make it a new normal you'll probably be happier if you just accept life as a fat guy.  At least until health problems start anyway.

I figure once I'm thin and young and handsome again I'll decide I never wanna be FatOats, and so it'll be easy to stay on course. 

 

[ProstheticRGK]

@ the thread title update.

 

[AAABatteries]

You can do it.  It is probably good for your goals but expect to be ####### miserable.  Over time you can adapt to it. 

LISS fasted makes more sense just from a quality of life perspective imo. 

It’s actually not that bad and I attribute it to being low carb and fat adapted 

 

[culdeus]

It’s actually not that bad and I attribute it to being low carb and fat adapted 

I mean more power to you, seriously.  It's a tough road.  

 

[Tecumseh]

The pressure is on now with the title change. Guess I better get my ### to the gym.

 

[Mister CIA]

I'm in.  Two more beers and I'm in.

 

[AAABatteries]

I mean more power to you, seriously.  It's a tough road.  

To be fair, I'm not doing this that often - maybe a day or two once a month.  I frequently do IF though (by skipping breakfast) - all my workouts are in the evening so I never even notice any difficulty on IF days.

 

[AAABatteries]

The problem is as simple as you viewing it as being serious for 2-3 months and not a new normal.  Even if you do get serious for 2-3 months and attain your goal you'll just fall back down the slide once you stop being serious about it again.

If you're not willing to make it a new normal you'll probably be happier if you just accept life as a fat guy.  At least until health problems start anyway.

I know we discussed it before but this really is a key thing for most people.  There's been a lot of good stuff in this thread over the years but 2 things stand out to me - this idea of it being a new normal and the other is something someone said a while back.  Basically, it was having tools in your toolbox for staying fit/healthy/thin.  Combining these two ideas has done wonders for me in my journey.  Now, I no longer am on a diet, haven't been for a while.  My new normal contains the following tools in my toolbox:

• Keto - early on and now if I want to jump start things I go Keto - it's easy for me to do and seems to work well for me
  
• Low Carb - I'd say low carb (not ultra low carb) is now my "typical" way of eating.  I eat beans and rice on occasion, I'll eat a sweet potato, I'll mix in some fruit, I'll even have a bagel on non-cheat days rarely but in general I just eat low carb - never bread or potatoes unless an intentional cheat meal/day;  this also means I limit my beer intake (and alcohol in general)
  
• "Healthy eating" - not sure what to call this but just the typical idea of healthy eating - fruit, veggies, lean meats, grains - what many still consider optimal;  it's good to mix this in for variety, IMO
  
• IF - I do IF at least a few days each week - I now find the idea of skipping a meal not unusual like most people - I remember reading someone talking about how there's at least 21 meals (7x3) for most people - if you can just eliminate a few (say 3) it becomes a decent caloric reduction - in theory a 14% reduction if you eliminate 3 normal meals.  When you then add in the benefits of IF it becomes an important tool for me.
  
• Fasting - in addition to IF, I do full day fasts - rarely water only but always zero calories for the time period.  In addition to the IF benefits above you get some additional benefits that I'm looking for (thinking longevity).  One thing that gets somewhat overlooked with fasting is you no longer have the struggle of being "good" with your food choices.  If I don't eat, I can't cheat and for many people just not eating is easier than making healthy choices
  
• Exercise - somewhat obvious but as culdeus mentions I try and do LISS workouts, weights and just lots of walking
  
• Hydration - I try to stay hydrated all the time, lots more water now than in years gone by
  
• Sleep - allows the body to heal and recover
  

So, using these tools (mostly the eating and exercise part) allows me to almost be on cruise control - I feel almost in complete control, whereas before I knew I was on cheat meal away from disaster.  I'll always need to stay vigilant but now I can do like i did Sunday for Fathers Day (eat all the food and drink all the drinks but went for a hike and swam a lot) and then I immediately jumped in and fasted Monday, IF Tuesday and I'm back to where I was on Saturday.

 

[Otis]

Awesome stuff and good pointers and reminders. 

 

[Tecumseh]

Day 20/100

Had a break in the weather, so I was able to get to the park instead of the gym. Did 4.5mi total, 3.5 of them running. Then when I got home I decided to walk another mile or so for the hell of it.

To AAA's point above, I've also been mixing in IF, but only when I have to work. Basically I sleep most of the day, then the only thing I have is a coffee with heavy cream until "lunch" at 1am. If I do back to back shifts it ends up being a full 24 hours between meals. I do eat whatever I want for those meals, but since it's essentially one meal a day, my calorie count is still sub-1500. I definitely need to drink more water, tho. My go-to beverage is sugar-free powerade, but I'm sure the artificial sweeteners aren't doing me any good.

I have enlisted one other person to join in for my second 30-day chunk. When I tell people I'm doing 100 days, they feel invariably  like that's too much, but a 30 day commitment is alot more palatable. Hoping to get a few other ppl at work to jump in for mutual support.

Bank: $200

 

[Tecumseh]

Day 21/100

Chest/arms/back day at the gym. This weekend will be a little different, because we're heading down to the beach. The place we're renting has bikes, so I'm just going to make sure that between swimming, biking, and running that I get my activity in every day.

Bank: $210

 

[DA RAIDERS]

back to the gym today.  went back east for the o'brien family reunion.  shockingly, there was some drinking involved.     i did manage to work out one day while there. :flex:  there was a fair amount of walking, hiking etc.  but, traveling is the worst for maintenance.  eating out every meal, no gym, etc.

as mentioned upthread, achieving a new normal is the key.  i'm happy to be home, eating correctly and off the booze.  and back to the gym.  

i'm proud of everyone in this thread.  getting to that new normal, was fairly hard for me and took over 18 months to really stick.  now, i love it!  so keep at it!

 

[Tecumseh]

@AAABatteries @Tecumseh

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/fast-food-chain-offering-eat-175541611.html

I saw that today. That's probably the fastest way for me to lose the weight, considering all the diarrhea I would have.

 

[Tecumseh]

Day 22/100

As notes above, we’re on St. Simon’s Island for the weekend. Good news- there’s a fitness center  directly downstairs from our condo. Bad news- I don’t have the code to get in. Badder news- it’s currently 94 degrees at 8pm. Gooder news- I just finished a 3 mile run in 94 degree heat at 8pm. Time to go fishing.

Bank- $220

 

[Mister CIA]

:whiteSehorn"/

 

[Tecumseh]

Day 23/100

Got the code for the fitness room, so knocked out a few miles on the treadmill this morning. Enough to get my HR up for 30-40mins. I'm comfortable with that, because if the wife and kid ever get their asses in gear, we'll be walking and swimming quite a bit today. Already over 8k steps for the day.

Bank: $230

 

[Tecumseh]

Day 24

Today was a more passive day, with lots of walking and swimming. Went to the beach for a few hours, spent alot of time walking, and then we took a ghost tour (wife wanted to for her birthday). Heading out in a few minutes to go fishing, too. Wasn't a sweat heavy day, but I'll end up approaching 15k steps, so I'm counting it.

Bank: $240

 

[Bull Dozier]

Day 1 - 195
1 Week Check in - 189.5
Weekly Loss - 5.5
Loss to date - 5.5

1st week of Keto, always big.  So far so good.

Day 1 - 195
1 Week Check in - 189.5
2 Week check in - 186
Weekly Loss - 3.5
Loss to date - 9

 

[AAABatteries]

Week Whatever Weigh-In

Starting Weight: 180.0

Current Weight:  168.8

Lost this round:  11.2 lbs

I may stop doing weekly weigh-ins.  I think I've reached a point where I've plateaued.  The difference between 166-168 isn't much.  As mentioned last time, I am seeing a noticeable physique difference and I attribute it to lifting and working out.  If I really want to track things I really got to get the body fat scale or do an actual test so I have something to baseline.

I've really ramped up my exercise the last month.  I did just under 30 miles of running/hiking last week, lifted twice and also been doing daily 200 squats, 100 pushups.  Wanting to move that up to 300 squats and 200 pushups over the next few weeks.

 

[Bull Dozier]

Week Whatever Weigh-In

Starting Weight: 180.0

Current Weight:  168.8

Lost this round:  11.2 lbs

I may stop doing weekly weigh-ins.  I think I've reached a point where I've plateaued.  The difference between 166-168 isn't much.  As mentioned last time, I am seeing a noticeable physique difference and I attribute it to lifting and working out.  If I really want to track things I really got to get the body fat scale or do an actual test so I have something to baseline.

I've really ramped up my exercise the last month.  I did just under 30 miles of running/hiking last week, lifted twice and also been doing daily 200 squats, 100 pushups.  Wanting to move that up to 300 squats and 200 pushups over the next few weeks.

Agree with this.  At some point I need to be able to track the changes differently.  However, I'm still in the 20+ lbs to lose camp, so weekly weigh ins are what I'm sticking with.  At some point I will have to switch over to tracking BF%.  Not sure the best/easiest way to do that on a regular basis as I've heard the scales aren't very consistent.

 

[culdeus]

Agree with this.  At some point I need to be able to track the changes differently.  However, I'm still in the 20+ lbs to lose camp, so weekly weigh ins are what I'm sticking with.  At some point I will have to switch over to tracking BF%.  Not sure the best/easiest way to do that on a regular basis as I've heard the scales aren't very consistent.

They are pretty precise but not accurate.  If you are consistent weighing in morning after taking a leak you'll eventually get a trend

 

[Tecumseh]

Day 25/100

Came home from the beach today. On the way home, we went thru Savannah and walked around for a couple of hours. Got about 6k steps there, then headed home. Once we got back, I went to the gym and did 4+ miles on the treadmill. Actually ended up posting a personal best, doing 3 miles in 30 minutes. That time includes a 3min warm-up walk. I know that's not impressive to anyone else, but I'm a fat *******, and it made me happy. That's probably literally the best time I've had for that distance since I was in boot camp almost 30yrs ago.

Tomorrow will be upper body day. Inching closer to my first weigh in on day 30. Nervous...

Bank: $250

 

[Da Guru]

Day 20/100

Had a break in the weather, so I was able to get to the park instead of the gym. Did 4.5mi total, 3.5 of them running. Then when I got home I decided to walk another mile or so for the hell of it.

To AAA's point above, I've also been mixing in IF, but only when I have to work. Basically I sleep most of the day, then the only thing I have is a coffee with heavy cream until "lunch" at 1am. If I do back to back shifts it ends up being a full 24 hours between meals. I do eat whatever I want for those meals, but since it's essentially one meal a day, my calorie count is still sub-1500. I definitely need to drink more water, tho. My go-to beverage is sugar-free powerade, but I'm sure the artificial sweeteners aren't doing me any good.

I have enlisted one other person to join in for my second 30-day chunk. When I tell people I'm doing 100 days, they feel invariably  like that's too much, but a 30 day commitment is alot more palatable. Hoping to get a few other ppl at work to jump in for mutual support.

Bank: $200

Never understood why I can easily drink 8 pints of beers on a given night night yet it seems so difficult to drink 8 pints of water in a whole day.