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Let’s officially be in one without all the money and stuff on the line. Let’s do it purely for the love of the game?
I don't understand weight watchers. The points thing seems like fake science - how can you have unlimited grilled chicken and lose weight? I get the meetings/weigh ins and i can see how paying for it makes you more likely to follow it but the whole thing has always seemed scammy to me. But it sounds like it worked for you before and it's worked for a ton of people.. would love to hear your experience and why you would go back to it.
https://www.weightwatchers.com/us/blog/weight-loss/complete-zero-point-foods-list
It's 2 points for 3 oz for me
Right so what does that mean? Like how is it that one group can eat unlimited grilled chicken but the other can only eat a little? And how does that translate to calories?
Good for you; works great for so many people. There was only one plan when I started in September, which migrated to being "blue" when they switched to three plans. I've been hesitant to switch to a different one since "blue" has worked well for me, but I wonder, if you're just starting, how are you deciding which one to choose?
Yeah, that's exactly the idea. These types of zero-point foods are zero because of the belief (which seems to be true) that you get full on them quickly and therefore can't eat a ton of calories from them.
Depends upon the fat content. 90/10 ground beef is 4 points for 3 oz, if you don't cook it up in anything. 95/5 ground beef is 3 points for the same.
But it is plan grilled chicken breast with no skin or fat. You put sauce on it and that is worth points. As someone said, try eating plan grilled chicken breast all the time.
It seems the only way I have a prayer of catching you is to do a 20k at some point (actually, two days this month), and take no days off. That said you'd probably just match my 20k later those same days.
I choose to start with green. I am going to see how this week goes and adjust to blue, purple, or stay put.
Thanks - the idea of three plans finally makes sense to me. It seemed weird for two plans to have a different number of points for the same food but if you start with a different number of points that makes sense.
This is the part that still confuses me. I thought the whole advantage of points over calorie counting was that you didn't need to track the nitty gritty details like the fat content of the beef in your burger. I don't understand the advantage of paying weight watchers to track points instead of using a free app to track calories if you have to look up your foods either way.
). Gonna go back to the lower carb diet that worked for me last year (between 50 and 100 grams per day). Also need to cut back on the drinking and I'm probably going to join the dry February group this year.
Re-weigh yourself at the end of the week for a more accurate starting point. It'll be a few days before all that bloat works itself out, so any measure between the 1st and then is flawed. I'm going to do my first weigh-in since mid December on Wednesday, but that's because my diet's been relatively clean since the 2nd. 6 days should be enough for all that water weight to subside.In Dec 2018 i was ~225 and got all the way down to my goal weight of 199. I was pretty much able to stay there all year (between 198 and 202 mostly) but after Thanksgiving I was typically between 200 and 204. I hoped to get to 199 on 1/1/20 even though I knew that would be difficult and I didn't make it (202). Then we had a family member visit for a week starting on 1/1/20 and leaving yesterday - let's just say it wasn't a good week with all the eating out and drinking, but it was fun. Yesterday I weighed in at 207
Anyway, I'm hoping to get to 190 (per BMI I need to get to 194 to no longer be fat
So I'm starting at 207 on 1/5/20 - let's do this
I looked briefly at WW and I "think" the difference between the 3 plans is the type of diet you're on. Two of them looked very similar (calorie-based) except one was strict counting (everything has a value) and the other was more liberal counting (zero point foods - eat as much as you want). The third option looked more keto/carb restriction based (which makes sense why they have different values for the same foods).
I'll be doing my weekly weigh-in on Thursdays. This is a "maintenance diet" for me. My goal is to last 6 weeks staying under my 34 point daily limit (no weight-related goals). 
To answer your prior question, I typed “ground b” in the app and it came up with options, two of which I posted for you. If I had store-bought ground beef, I’d have simply used the bar code scanner instead. There’s nothing hard about any of that.
Then you may want to consider something else. 'Not fun' is usually correlated with not sustainable, so you're more likely to end up like the 90% and get to 1/1/21 in a similar state as 1/120.Hasn't been easy or fun at all so far.
There’s an article on the app about why smoothies have points but raw fruits don’t. Ah, here it is: I haven’t read this so don’t vouch for it.
Agree, but I'm only looking to last 6 weeks. Not making a lifestyle change. I generally lose 5lbs every Jan/Feb and then slowly gain it back throughout the year. Been hovering between 175-185 for the past 25 years.
It's not that ww sounds hard, it's that with myfitnesspal (or other free apps) I can do the same thing just as easily.
Setting ITrackBites to decimals is an optional setting. Seemed better than rounding up or down to me. A gained a whole point for the day by counting 2.8 instead of 3 for each beer!
Yeah, I’ve no interest in convincing you or anyone. Perhaps someone else will.
Speaking of which...12/30: +0.6 lbs
Total through 16 weeks: -31.6 lbs
Meh, I'll take it, after eating all the food, drinking all the wine, and doing none of the working out. Speaking of which, I fell off the Tecumseh 100-day challenge on 12/26, though for good reason as I had to get up at 3:30 that morning, go to the airport, fly across the country, and then was hit with my whole family (and a lot of pizza) the moment I got to Louisville. Literally zero time to fit in any workout, and I don't feel that I can count my run through the entirety of the Minneapolis airport to make my connection. For good measure, since I'd already blown the challenge, I didn't do any activity on 12/27 either.Back to it now.
WW is buying the satiety science. It's not that hard to see their angle. I am curious where they place foods like potatoes across the different plans.
Yes, absolutely.culdeus said:
They are all in on the satiety science. When did this happen?krista4 said:
I mean there are no longitudinal studies of this approach. This is absolutely all-in if they are going this route. I think the science is very iffy for people on a restriction. I've been dabbling in this approach to do a lean gain. Eating as much high S food as I can possibly stomach.
The fruits are what I find most befuddling, especially bananas and pineapple. On the vegetable side I’m surprised corn is zero points.
It was a very recent change for them to go to the three options for plans. Before a month or two ago, the only option was the plan I’m using. It will be interesting to see how that goes.
