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[solorca]

At least there's no blame on DMC for Marcel Reece only getting 10.6 PPR points this week against Cleveland.

I actually think DMC is to blame for Reece's lower performance. They planned all week as if DMC was going to be healthy, so it's likely that they worked Reece at FB much of the week in practice, while Stewart was in the RB rotation. When the weather got bad and the field was tore up, they decided to sit Mcfadden, even though I feel pretty confident he probably could have played.

 

[ChummyShark]

At least there's no blame on DMC for Marcel Reece only getting 10.6 PPR points this week against Cleveland.

I actually think DMC is to blame for Reece's lower performance. They planned all week as if DMC was going to be healthy, so it's likely that they worked Reece at FB much of the week in practice, while Stewart was in the RB rotation. When the weather got bad and the field was tore up, they decided to sit Mcfadden, even though I feel pretty confident he probably could have played.

All you DMC owners, no need to fret. If you can make it to weeks 15 and 16, start DMC with total assurance and confidence.I traded DMC about 4 weeks ago for Jonathan Stewart and Andre Brown, both of whom have subsequently been dropped by me due to injury. I did not have the patience, nor the belief that DMC will be a stud even though I knew the Raiders schedule of cupcake defenses.Hence, DMC will haunt me and personally reward all of you faithful DMC owners. Bank on it.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

At least there's no blame on DMC for Marcel Reece only getting 10.6 PPR points this week against Cleveland.

I actually think DMC is to blame for Reece's lower performance. They planned all week as if DMC was going to be healthy, so it's likely that they worked Reece at FB much of the week in practice, while Stewart was in the RB rotation. When the weather got bad and the field was tore up, they decided to sit Mcfadden, even though I feel pretty confident he probably could have played.

His usage (slot/FB) really indicated they expected McFadden and/or Goodson back. I think it also made clear of Reece's role this Thursday/beyond. 2 games in 5 days probably played a little factor too in sitting McFadden.Reece's 'down' day yesterday had much to do with his usage (slot/FB). Stewart looked solid too as a fill in.JMO Reece had a nice fantasy run the last month (elite RB value), but he's back to waiver fodder as the FB now with McFadden/Goodson returning. I thought yesterday made that crystal clear and I'd rather have that way than to be on the fence about cutting/rostering him.

 

[shadyridr]

So whos starting DMC THIS WEEK? Over who?

 

[cvnpoka]

At least there's no blame on DMC for Marcel Reece only getting 10.6 PPR points this week against Cleveland.

I actually think DMC is to blame for Reece's lower performance. They planned all week as if DMC was going to be healthy, so it's likely that they worked Reece at FB much of the week in practice, while Stewart was in the RB rotation. When the weather got bad and the field was tore up, they decided to sit Mcfadden, even though I feel pretty confident he probably could have played.

were you watching the practices or something? you have no idea how the raiders prepared or how likely they assessed mcfadden's chance to play. you have no idea when they made the decision. hell, the atmospheric river thread has been up since like wednesday, so the raiders woulda known the then the field would be tore up.

 

[John 14:6]

So whos starting DMC THIS WEEK? Over who?

If he plays, I'm starting him over Chris Ivory, Donald Brown, and Cedric Peerman.

 

[nb009]

If he plays, I'm starting him over Dwyer, Brown and Blackmon.

 

[MCguidance]

I have a glut of RBs, so i feel like i can sit DMC. Yeah poor me, but I also have a bye this week. Again poor me.

Ahead of him week 15 will start :

Martin

Bryce Brown

Probably:

Ridley

Maybe:

Leshoure

I will try and play matchups, but Martin and BB are almost locks for me if their situations remain the same.

 

[ceo3west]

I'm playing him over Reece

 

[Ridgelake]

I get to chose 2 of 4 from McF, Mathews, Ridley, and LeShore. Probably rolling with McF and LeShore. PPR scoring.

 

[shadyridr]

I get to chose 2 of 4 from McF, Mathews, Ridley, and LeShore. Probably rolling with McF and LeShore. PPR scoring.

You're benching the one guy who scores a td every week?

 

[pbandy1]

So whos starting DMC THIS WEEK? Over who?

I will, but that's because this game doesn't matter for me since I'm on bye in this league. I don't expect much... Thursday night game against a tough tough run defense. Actually I might start Knowshon Mereno over him, lol.

 

[shadyridr]

My decision is DMC or greene. So crap or #### sandwich. If the game wasnt on Thursday, I'd just start DMC but Thursday games are the suck

 

[cvnpoka]

if he practices all week and is named the starter then he will start over dwyer, bilal, and an assortment of wr in ppr.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Will likely be starting for me in the flex over Ryan Mathews on the road v PIT.

This is a game I would LOVE to be able to sit McFadden down and give him a full game to get back up to speed. But it's the playoffs, and I think he might give me more of a chance than Mathews.

 

[Insein]

I'm playing him over Reece

Same. I have Foster, Ridley, DMC and all their handcuffs. Pretty much playing whoever starts of Reece or DMC.

 

[glumpy]

So whos starting DMC THIS WEEK? Over who?

I will, but that's because this game doesn't matter for me since I'm on bye in this league. I don't expect much... Thursday night game against a tough tough run defense. Actually I might start Knowshon Mereno over him, lol.

jeez. League IR rules mean I've gotta drop either McFadden or Knowshon this week. Was hoping to see him play last week.

 

[otb_lifer]

So whos starting DMC THIS WEEK? Over who?

I will, but that's because this game doesn't matter for me since I'm on bye in this league. I don't expect much... Thursday night game against a tough tough run defense. Actually I might start Knowshon Mereno over him, lol.

jeez. League IR rules mean I've gotta drop either McFadden or Knowshon this week. Was hoping to see him play last week.

CBS reports our boy as being "limited" in practice yesterday ... Not exactly the run of the mill early week prognosis, seeing as how they play Thursday.

For the past month, I'm sure quite a few of us had Reece to lean on; but after this past week, that looks to be

Just can't see DMac getting the volume needed to justify a start ... went 13/34 first game vs. Broncos, to boot. This is shaping up to have all the makings of maybe a 10 touch outing. Considering his health, shaking off the rust, and game situation (why feed him if Denver starts pulling away) ...

That being said ... if he's starting for them, he's starting for me

Ehhh ... my other options are quite piss poor (thank fantasy gods for Bryce as my RB1 at least)

Dwyer? DWilly? Beanie? Anyone? Bueller?

OOOFFFAAHHH.

 

[Ridgelake]

I get to chose 2 of 4 from McF, Mathews, Ridley, and LeShore. Probably rolling with McF and LeShore. PPR scoring.

You're benching the one guy who scores a td every week?

Probably as I have 2 other Patriots starting and Houston is a good D. I don't like starting 3 guys from the same team if I can avoid it. But absent that, I probably would roll with Ridley until I saw what McF had to offer. I will say that doing something similar a couple of years ago with McFadden coming off injury, he put up a then-record 49 points for a RB. Not saying he'll do that this week. But he's one of a handful of guys capable of something like that.

 

[One]

I get to chose 2 of 4 from McF, Mathews, Ridley, and LeShore. Probably rolling with McF and LeShore. PPR scoring.

You're benching the one guy who scores a td every week?

Probably as I have 2 other Patriots starting and Houston is a good D. I don't like starting 3 guys from the same team if I can avoid it. But absent that, I probably would roll with Ridley until I saw what McF had to offer. I will say that doing something similar a couple of years ago with McFadden coming off injury, he put up a then-record 49 points for a RB. Not saying he'll do that this week. But he's one of a handful of guys capable of something like that.

I remember this. McFadden just shows up after nursing an injury a few weeks and goes nuts. It was against the Broncos. Denver had an awful team that year though.

 

[DocHolliday]

I am rolling with SJax against the Bills unless there is word out of Oakland that DMC is real close to 100% and the starter.

 

[ChummyShark]

I am rolling with SJax against the Bills unless there is word out of Oakland that DMC is real close to 100% and the starter.

That's a very easy decision.

 

[nb009]

There seems to be so much going against him:

- high-powered DEN offense that might force OAK to abandon the run early

- DEN ranked 5th against the run (fantasy points allowed)

- Thursday Night Football, which has been notorious for bad performances this season

- first week back from high ankle sprain

- timeshare possibilities

- zone-blocking system issues from the past

Don't think I could risk it this week. Even if it means going with a low upside guy like Jonathan Dwyer or Antonio Brown.

 

[One]

I'm rolling with BryceBrown/Bradshaw ahead of McFadden this week. I just can't trust McFadden yet.

If he looks good Thursday night, uses the long week to prep for KC, then I'll start him.

 

[rickyg]

I am rolling with SJax against the Bills unless there is word out of Oakland that DMC is real close to 100% and the starter.

That's a very easy decision.

It's also very sound logic. I agree. I need to hear Dennis Allen declare McFadden as close to 100% and that his snaps and role will not be limited for me to trust him in my lineup again this season. That it is need I actually see m Gadsden do very well on limited touches and make it through a full game on that ankle before I plug him in. Starting Moreno over him.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

From the Oakland Raiders Blog:

The Raiders expect back running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson in time for Thursday nights game against the Denver Broncos.Good thing, too, for their primary replacement the past four games, Marcel Reece, is hobbled by hamstring and quadriceps injuries right now.

 

[ChummyShark]

From the Oakland Raiders Blog:

The Raiders expect back running backs Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson in time for Thursday night’s game against the Denver Broncos.Good thing, too, for their primary replacement the past four games, Marcel Reece, is hobbled by hamstring and quadriceps injuries right now.

Reece hurt? Maybe I should do a sneaky add of Goodson off waivers. Then, if/when DMC goes down, I'll have Goodson for weeks 15 and 16.

 

[DocHolliday]

I am rolling with SJax against the Bills unless there is word out of Oakland that DMC is real close to 100% and the starter.

That's a very easy decision.

It is a very reasonable decision. However, DMC has something that SJax does not. That is the potential to put up big FF numbers. It is an easy decision though. I am guessing that most folks are leaving DMC on the bench for another week if they have any decent option.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Rotoworld is saying to drop Reece lol.

 

[solorca]

At least there's no blame on DMC for Marcel Reece only getting 10.6 PPR points this week against Cleveland.

I actually think DMC is to blame for Reece's lower performance. They planned all week as if DMC was going to be healthy, so it's likely that they worked Reece at FB much of the week in practice, while Stewart was in the RB rotation. When the weather got bad and the field was tore up, they decided to sit Mcfadden, even though I feel pretty confident he probably could have played.

were you watching the practices or something? you have no idea how the raiders prepared or how likely they assessed mcfadden's chance to play. you have no idea when they made the decision. hell, the atmospheric river thread has been up since like wednesday, so the raiders woulda known the then the field would be tore up.

Re-read my quote. I said that I THINK DMC is to blame for Reece's lower performance. I also said that it's "likely" that they worked Reece at FB much of the week in practice.My comments made it pretty clear that I was giving an opinion rather than providing some kind of facts.

 

[ChummyShark]

Here's the thing to know: After DMC comes back this week, and let's say he comes back with a good-to-great game, he ALWAYS follows a good-to-great game with ANOTHER great game. That GREAT game will be in week 15 of the fantasy playoffs, and all DMC owners will be happy that they stashed him in time to reap the benefits in week 15. Start DMC confidently in Week 15. Reece is hurt, and now it's time for DMC to shine for the Silver-and-Black. Week 14, he shows he's back.

Then, DMC is a must-start in Week 15.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Rotoworld is saying to drop Reece lol.

Considering his injuries and the Raiders just added another RB off the Cowboys practice squad, I don't think it's that much of an "lol". Season boils down to 3 more weeks, critical playoff weeks. Preemptively dropping Reece may be a very wise thing to do and it appears McFadden is full steam go for Thursday. Goodson is also going to be active. Don't see much of a role for a banged up overworked Reece.

 

[John 14:6]

There seems to be so much going against him:- high-powered DEN offense that might force OAK to abandon the run early

That might be a good thing for McFadden as a pass catcher...

- Thursday Night Football, which has been notorious for bad performances this season

It's a short week for most everyone else, but not for McFadden since he's been out for awhile. Could benefit him, maybe?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

There seems to be so much going against him:- high-powered DEN offense that might force OAK to abandon the run early

That might be a good thing for McFadden as a pass catcher...

- Thursday Night Football, which has been notorious for bad performances this season

It's a short week for most everyone else, but not for McFadden since he's been out for awhile. Could benefit him, maybe?

...adding to your thoughts, head coach Dennis Allen's dad just died last night and the team could rally hard for him like Colts did for Pagano. Also, this is a deep seeded bitter rivalry and played at home, the crowd will be up for it. A fresh McFadden could take a lot of folks by surprise here.

 

[One]

@CorkOnTheNFL: #Raiders running backs coach Kelly Skipper said of Darren McFadden: "He looked good today. You could see him cut and bursting off the foot."

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

(KFFL) Oakland Raiders RB Darren McFadden (ankle) was on the practice field Tuesday, Dec. 4.

I currently have McFadden in over Leshoure. Leshoure has salvaged some average fantasy days as of late with td's. As of right now Bell is the clear 3rd down guy and they are saying in Detroit Bell has played well enough to get more touches. Leshoure is nice long term as he grows off his rookie season. But I am rolling with the upside of McFadden this week.

 

[sbonomo]

Will likely be starting for me in the flex over Ryan Mathews on the road v PIT. This is a game I would LOVE to be able to sit McFadden down and give him a full game to get back up to speed. But it's the playoffs, and I think he might give me more of a chance than Mathews.

Looks like there are a bunch of us in the same boat...coin flip between him and Mathews...Who would have thought thta BJE would be my stud out of the three....

 

[ChummyShark]

The second time teams play each other usually turns out differently than the first time (except for the 49ers-Rams).

DMC's stat line the first time that the Raiders played the Broncos (in Denver):

13 carries for 34 yards and 1 reception for 4 yards in a 37-6 Raiders loss.

DMC should do better this time around.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Rotoworld is saying to drop Reece lol.

It's good advice.You don't get points for past stats. He's been an elite RB1 for the past month, but he's no better than 4th in line for carries with all healthy. (DMC/Goodson/Stewart) Reece is now banged up himself (no guarantee he'll even play this week).I'm as thankful for Marcel's production the last month, but his usage this past week (with Stewart and no DMC/Goodson) was pretty telling. He lined up a lot at FB/slot with Stewart. (Anyone that watched that game likely took away the same thing. Really looked like they expected DMC/Goodson to return, but then decided to hold them out due to the upcoming Thurs game)Just keep in mind Reece didn't get a single carry until Week 10. He thrived in that role, but pretty apparent they do prefer him in the FB/TE hybrid role and take advantage of his versatility.The one thing I learned from Week 13 is it's safe to cut bait on Reece with DMC/Goodson coming back. Stewart himself had more carries than Reece (and looked solid doing it too)

 

[cvnpoka]

The second time teams play each other usually turns out differently than the first time (except for the 49ers-Rams).DMC's stat line the first time that the Raiders played the Broncos (in Denver): 13 carries for 34 yards and 1 reception for 4 yards in a 37-6 Raiders loss.DMC should do better this time around.

the raiders have been a mess the last few weeks while the broncos have been playing extremely well.

 

[ChummyShark]

The second time teams play each other usually turns out differently than the first time (except for the 49ers-Rams).DMC's stat line the first time that the Raiders played the Broncos (in Denver): 13 carries for 34 yards and 1 reception for 4 yards in a 37-6 Raiders loss.DMC should do better this time around.

the raiders have been a mess the last few weeks while the broncos have been playing extremely well.

C'mon man. A player's performance is directly related to the faith that his owners have in him. Have faith in DMC by starting him. Believe that the Raiders will treat this as their inspiration game, as their SuperBowl. The Chiefs (and Brady Quinn) played very well in their win over the Panthers last Sunday, one day after a horrible tragedy. Coach Dennis Allen's dad recently passed.Raider Nation will rise up Thursday and smite the hated Broncos with Run DMC leading the way. Start him with confidence and cheer on the emotional underdog Raiders.

 

[John 14:6]

Will likely be starting for me in the flex over Ryan Mathews on the road v PIT. This is a game I would LOVE to be able to sit McFadden down and give him a full game to get back up to speed. But it's the playoffs, and I think he might give me more of a chance than Mathews.

Looks like there are a bunch of us in the same boat...coin flip between him and Mathews...Who would have thought thta BJE would be my stud out of the three....

I had those same three RBs, but then I traded away BJGE for a draft pick because I also had McGahee.

 

[cvnpoka]

haha, good point chummy :thumb:

anyway, ya, im riding with dmac over a mulitude of mediocrity without any reservation. plus i need some hudge points in this league.

in my other league he is staying on the bench for foster, peterson and bryce.

 

[rickyg]

Has everyone in this forum forgotten that McFadden was healthy and fresh for the first 8 or 9 weeks of the season and still sucked? The raiders idiotic zone blocking scheme has not changed, and not has mcfaddens ability to play well in it. I don't see McFadden coming "fresh" necessarily. He has had rest but that ankle I'm sure has a high risk of re injury and I'm sure it can't be at 100%. Also throw in that the broncos are a tough matchup and I'm staying away for week 14. Only BC I have a better option in Moreno. If it was b/w dmc and say beanie wells I could see how dmc would be the start.

With that said I hope he explodes on my bench this week so I can start him with confidence in week 15 if I'm still in it.

 

[ChummyShark]

For all those owners who are starting McFadden this week, please report back on Thursday evening or Friday on how utterly pleased you are with DMC's performance this Thursday. And also share how immensely intelligent you are for having started DMC in your playoff game.

 

[Wally Cleaver]

For all those owners who are starting McFadden this week, please report back on Thursday evening or Friday on how utterly pleased you are with DMC's performance this Thursday. And also share how immensely intelligent you are for having started DMC in your playoff game.

When its him or Dwyer, there may not be much choice... The runningback position is pretty scarce.

 

[Kyle_Wright]

I am rolling with SJax against the Bills unless there is word out of Oakland that DMC is real close to 100% and the starter.

That's a very easy decision.

How? Bills have been a top 3 run defense all of November

 

[Tiger Fan]

have to decide b/w the following in a non-PPR flex...really not sure what I'm doing, but leaning DMC

DMC

Reece

Heyward Bay

J Rodgers

A Roberts

B Powell

E Sanders

 

[John 14:6]

Has everyone in this forum forgotten that McFadden was healthy and fresh for the first 8 or 9 weeks of the season and still sucked?

I haven't, it's just that my other options have been even worse.

 

[John 14:6]

Yahoo update:

New player notes Wed, Dec 5RB Darren McFadden is expected to be active against Denver after missing a quarter of the season with a high ankle sprain. Both McFadden and Mike Goodson, who had the same injury, worked out before the game against Cleveland but were inactive. "(McFadden) looked good today," running backs coach Kelly Skipper said. "You could see him cutting, you could see him bursting off the foot. You wouldn't have known today that he had been injured." Although the Raiders haven't been piling up big yardage because of score deficits, their yards per carry has gone up of late. Offensive coordinator Greg Knapp credits the development of center Stefen Wisniewski, who missed training camp with a calf injury, and the return of tackle Khalif Barnes, who missed eight games following groin surgery. "I'm really excited about it," McFadden said. "I'm just looking forward to getting out there, getting back on the field with the guys and getting going again."(Yahoo! Sports)