Pack gonna let Randall Cobb test the market? (1 Viewer)

[mr roboto]

All I hear is that if he goes to Oakland, his fantasy value takes a huge hit. For the first time in a very long time, I can whisper some true optimism, and actually believe it. I would feel the best I've felt in a very long time if we go into camp with Carr, Murray, and Cobb, Jones and Cooper at WR. That offense has a chance to succeed and even be special in time. Manage to get Suh and I'm buying a ticket to the super bowl

I like Carr's future.

Wasn't Carr more proficient in college utilizing short quick passes? Cobb could be a huge upgrade for him.

 

[flapgreen]

League source says #Packers balked at paying Randall Cobb contract averaging $10-mil per season. He'll hit free agency. #Raiders will pay.

 

[massraider]

 

[VarsityBlues123]

he is going to oakland the writing is on the wall. his fantasy value will take such a blow.

 

[FUBAR]

All I hear is that if he goes to Oakland, his fantasy value takes a huge hit. For the first time in a very long time, I can whisper some true optimism, and actually believe it. I would feel the best I've felt in a very long time if we go into camp with Carr, Murray, and Cobb, Jones and Cooper at WR. That offense has a chance to succeed and even be special in time. Manage to get Suh and I'm buying a ticket to the super bowl

I like Carr's future.

Wasn't Carr more proficient in college utilizing short quick passes? Cobb could be a huge upgrade for him.

he is going to oakland the writing is on the wall. his fantasy value will take such a blow.

I'll be delusional but I don't know that it really does. This isn't Eric Decker to the Jets, Carr actually has talent.

 

[Banger]

All I hear is that if he goes to Oakland, his fantasy value takes a huge hit. For the first time in a very long time, I can whisper some true optimism, and actually believe it. I would feel the best I've felt in a very long time if we go into camp with Carr, Murray, and Cobb, Jones and Cooper at WR. That offense has a chance to succeed and even be special in time. Manage to get Suh and I'm buying a ticket to the super bowl

I like Carr's future.

Wasn't Carr more proficient in college utilizing short quick passes? Cobb could be a huge upgrade for him.

he is going to oakland the writing is on the wall. his fantasy value will take such a blow.

I'll be delusional but I don't know that it really does. This isn't Eric Decker to the Jets, Carr actually has talent.

but realistically next year what are you looking at? 80-1050-7? He'll definitely help the Raiders but we're probably talking about Steve Smith from last year.

 

[Da Guru]

League source says #Packers balked at paying Randall Cobb contract averaging $10-mil per season. He'll hit free agency. #Raiders will pay.

Rogers is like Brady and Manning..these guys make WRs better. Rogers will make another WR a star next year.

 

[massraider]

League source says #Packers balked at paying Randall Cobb contract averaging $10-mil per season. He'll hit free agency. #Raiders will pay.

Rogers is like Brady and Manning..these guys make WRs better. Rogers will make another WR a star next year.

There is plenty of precedent. Jordy, Jones, and Cobb all replaced more expensive options. Adams is the latest. Cobb is really young, and good, but the Packers have proven the 'next man up' philosophy works great at WR. Take that Cobb money and get another O-lineman, or pay the CB, House.

 

[Casting Couch]

A source tells Yahoo the Packers "balked" at paying free agent Randall Cobb $10M per year.
The Packers are reportedly willing to pay Cobb $8-9 million annually, but aren't going to go past that number. So unless Cobb surprisingly chooses to give a massive hometown discount,
Aaron Rodgers will be left with Davante Adams and Jeff Janis behind Jordy Nelson. The Raiders and Jaguars, armed with an ocean of cap space and a need to spend it to meet league minimums,
figure to offer something around the $11M per season Cobb is seeking.

RC

 

[fightingillini]

All I hear is that if he goes to Oakland, his fantasy value takes a huge hit. For the first time in a very long time, I can whisper some true optimism, and actually believe it. I would feel the best I've felt in a very long time if we go into camp with Carr, Murray, and Cobb, Jones and Cooper at WR. That offense has a chance to succeed and even be special in time. Manage to get Suh and I'm buying a ticket to the super bowl

I like Carr's future.

Wasn't Carr more proficient in college utilizing short quick passes? Cobb could be a huge upgrade for him.

he is going to oakland the writing is on the wall. his fantasy value will take such a blow.

I'll be delusional but I don't know that it really does. This isn't Eric Decker to the Jets, Carr actually has talent.

but realistically next year what are you looking at? 80-1050-7? He'll definitely help the Raiders but we're probably talking about Steve Smith from last year.

It really depends on how Carr progresses. I think Cobb would easily get 150+ targets in OAK being the undisputed WR1. 90/1150/8 isn't unreasonable if Carr keeps improving. While I expect OAK to draft a ton defensive help.....OAK's defense is still not going to be good........Cobb could be a garbage time monster.

Where Cobb takes a big hit is in the TD department. With Rodgers throwing the ball, Cobb has a chance at 12-13 TDs every year. That won't ever happen in OAK.

 

[Banger]

A source tells Yahoo the Packers "balked" at paying free agent Randall Cobb $10M per year.
The Packers are reportedly willing to pay Cobb $8-9 million annually, but aren't going to go past that number. So unless Cobb surprisingly chooses to give a massive hometown discount,
Aaron Rodgers will be left with Davante Adams and Jeff Janis behind Jordy Nelson. The Raiders and Jaguars, armed with an ocean of cap space and a need to spend it to meet league minimums,
figure to offer something around the $11M per season Cobb is seeking.

RC

and $8-9 mill are just numbers...what really matters is guaranteed money. otherwise past year 1 the numbers are completely irrelevant.

 

[Pipes]

League source says #Packers balked at paying Randall Cobb contract averaging $10-mil per season. He'll hit free agency. #Raiders will pay.

Rogers is like Brady and Manning..these guys make WRs better. Rogers will make another WR a star next year.

As a Davante Adams owner I'm intrigued to see what kind of jump we'll see in his numbers next year. Hopefully huge.

 

[FUBAR]

All I hear is that if he goes to Oakland, his fantasy value takes a huge hit. For the first time in a very long time, I can whisper some true optimism, and actually believe it. I would feel the best I've felt in a very long time if we go into camp with Carr, Murray, and Cobb, Jones and Cooper at WR. That offense has a chance to succeed and even be special in time. Manage to get Suh and I'm buying a ticket to the super bowl

I like Carr's future.

Wasn't Carr more proficient in college utilizing short quick passes? Cobb could be a huge upgrade for him.

he is going to oakland the writing is on the wall. his fantasy value will take such a blow.

I'll be delusional but I don't know that it really does. This isn't Eric Decker to the Jets, Carr actually has talent.

but realistically next year what are you looking at? 80-1050-7? He'll definitely help the Raiders but we're probably talking about Steve Smith from last year.

It really depends on how Carr progresses. I think Cobb would easily get 150+ targets in OAK being the undisputed WR1. 90/1150/8 isn't unreasonable if Carr keeps improving. While I expect OAK to draft a ton defensive help.....OAK's defense is still not going to be good........Cobb could be a garbage time monster.

Where Cobb takes a big hit is in the TD department. With Rodgers throwing the ball, Cobb has a chance at 12-13 TDs every year. That won't ever happen in OAK.

Pretty much this, although we might disagree on whether he has a chance for 12 TDs, he has a better chance in Green Bay.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

League source says #Packers balked at paying Randall Cobb contract averaging $10-mil per season. He'll hit free agency. #Raiders will pay.

Rogers is like Brady and Manning..these guys make WRs better. Rogers will make another WR a star next year.

As a Davante Adams owner I'm intrigued to see what kind of jump we'll see in his numbers next year. Hopefully huge.

Enjoy. I think the dark horse/value play is Richard Rodgers, but Adams owners will be enjoying this season very much.

 

[fightingillini]

All I hear is that if he goes to Oakland, his fantasy value takes a huge hit. For the first time in a very long time, I can whisper some true optimism, and actually believe it. I would feel the best I've felt in a very long time if we go into camp with Carr, Murray, and Cobb, Jones and Cooper at WR. That offense has a chance to succeed and even be special in time. Manage to get Suh and I'm buying a ticket to the super bowl

I like Carr's future.

Wasn't Carr more proficient in college utilizing short quick passes? Cobb could be a huge upgrade for him.

he is going to oakland the writing is on the wall. his fantasy value will take such a blow.

I'll be delusional but I don't know that it really does. This isn't Eric Decker to the Jets, Carr actually has talent.

but realistically next year what are you looking at? 80-1050-7? He'll definitely help the Raiders but we're probably talking about Steve Smith from last year.

It really depends on how Carr progresses. I think Cobb would easily get 150+ targets in OAK being the undisputed WR1. 90/1150/8 isn't unreasonable if Carr keeps improving. While I expect OAK to draft a ton defensive help.....OAK's defense is still not going to be good........Cobb could be a garbage time monster.

Where Cobb takes a big hit is in the TD department. With Rodgers throwing the ball, Cobb has a chance at 12-13 TDs every year. That won't ever happen in OAK.

Pretty much this, although we might disagree on whether he has a chance for 12 TDs, he has a better chance in Green Bay.

Sure.....to be clear Cobb has about a 5% chance of getting 12+ TDs given a projection of 8 TDs if he went to OAK. We're on the same page.

No matter how it's said.....Cobb takes a hit in TDs.

 

[golfguy]

Cobb does a lot more for that offense in GB than just catch passes. Hopefully he stays.

 

[beef]

League source says #Packers balked at paying Randall Cobb contract averaging $10-mil per season. He'll hit free agency. #Raiders will pay.

Rogers is like Brady and Manning..these guys make WRs better. Rogers will make another WR a star next year.

As a Davante Adams owner I'm intrigued to see what kind of jump we'll see in his numbers next year. Hopefully huge.

Enjoy. I think the dark horse/value play is Richard Rodgers, but Adams owners will be enjoying this season very much.

I like rich rod here too on the cheap. Even cheaper dyno stash, abrederis. He was made for the slot. Still recovering from acl though.

 

[Silver & Black]

A source tells Yahoo the Packers "balked" at paying free agent Randall Cobb $10M per year.
The Packers are reportedly willing to pay Cobb $8-9 million annually, but aren't going to go past that number. So unless Cobb surprisingly chooses to give a massive hometown discount,
Aaron Rodgers will be left with Davante Adams and Jeff Janis behind Jordy Nelson. The Raiders and Jaguars, armed with an ocean of cap space and a need to spend it to meet league minimums,
figure to offer something around the $11M per season Cobb is seeking.

RC

If this is accurate, lets say Oakland goes and offers a deal that works out to 11 million a year. If Cobb goes back, tells them that and says he'll take 10 to stay, they'd be crazy not to pay, imo. It's one thing to balk at paying the 10, a whole other to stick to it when the chips are all on the table. You overpay a bit for a WR you know is a perfect fit for your offense. The fly in the ointment is going to be if someone offers him 12 mill a year. That's going to be hard to walk away from.

 

[Soulfly3]

Cobb is good... not 10-12m good.

GB knows that Rodgers will elevate whoever steps in (adams)... at a fraction of the cost.

I know they're not the same WRs, but would fans prefer Crabtree at 5-6m over Cobb at 10-12?

 

[Longtucky Lemmings]

Cobb is good... not 10-12m good.

GB knows that Rodgers will elevate whoever steps in (adams)... at a fraction of the cost.

I know they're not the same WRs, but would fans prefer Crabtree at 5-6m over Cobb at 10-12?

I wouldn't - I'd rather see them invest the time into the WRs currently on the roster (Adams, Janis, Abbrederis) and use a draft pick or two on a slot-type receiver. One thing the Packers have shown in the McCarthy-Rodgers era is that they can easily tweak and evolve the offense to fit the weapons they have. I have no doubt that if they lose Cobb they will do this again this coming season.

 

[hbkhbk]

If they can pay Jorday close to 10 a year , then pony up from Cobb.

 

[FUBAR]

A source tells Yahoo the Packers "balked" at paying free agent Randall Cobb $10M per year.
The Packers are reportedly willing to pay Cobb $8-9 million annually, but aren't going to go past that number. So unless Cobb surprisingly chooses to give a massive hometown discount,
Aaron Rodgers will be left with Davante Adams and Jeff Janis behind Jordy Nelson. The Raiders and Jaguars, armed with an ocean of cap space and a need to spend it to meet league minimums,
figure to offer something around the $11M per season Cobb is seeking.

RC

If this is accurate, lets say Oakland goes and offers a deal that works out to 11 million a year. If Cobb goes back, tells them that and says he'll take 10 to stay, they'd be crazy not to pay, imo. It's one thing to balk at paying the 10, a whole other to stick to it when the chips are all on the table. You overpay a bit for a WR you know is a perfect fit for your offense. The fly in the ointment is going to be if someone offers him 12 mill a year. That's going to be hard to walk away from.

Presume Cobb would get a no-trade clause thrown in.

 

[beef]

Cobb is good... not 10-12m good.

GB knows that Rodgers will elevate whoever steps in (adams)... at a fraction of the cost.

I know they're not the same WRs, but would fans prefer Crabtree at 5-6m over Cobb at 10-12?

I'd rather have Cobb at 10-12 if I had to chose one.

 

[Phenomena]

League source says #Packers balked at paying Randall Cobb contract averaging $10-mil per season. He'll hit free agency. #Raiders will pay.

Rogers is like Brady and Manning..these guys make WRs better. Rogers will make another WR a star next year.

As a Davante Adams owner I'm intrigued to see what kind of jump we'll see in his numbers next year. Hopefully huge.

Enjoy. I think the dark horse/value play is Richard Rodgers, but Adams owners will be enjoying this season very much.

Ditto. TEs have the longest learning curve of any position... they have to learn all the blocking schemes of a lineman and most of the route trees of a WR. Many of the TE greats out there had mediocre 1st/2nd seasons.

I think Richard Rodgers has major upside as a receiver, chain-mover, and red-zone threat. He's a major dynasty sleeper right now and could be a solid redraft sleeper this year. I don't think he would be topping TE7/8 numbers as he's no Gronk or Graham physically, but getting a middle of the road TE in round 20 sounds fine to me.

 

[kface]

Cap money carries over if they don't use it. It's still wasting millions on a slot WR. Dime a dozen. He's been successful because of Rodgers.

Teams also have to use a certain percentage of the cap over four years. You can't just roll over extra money forever.

Randall Cobb is not only not a dime-a-dozen, he's a pretty unique specimen as a player.

You are about to see a bunch, A BUNCH, of players about to be overpaid. Look at how many teams have a lot of space!! There's not enough studs to go around. The minute Maclin signs, Cobb becomes even MORE attractive.

I know that, and Oakland doesn't have to spend very much to get over that threshold, which doesn't come into effect until next year. It's a rolling 4-year average.

I adamantly disagree that Cobb is that much more special than any other slot WR. He's not doing anything much better than Edelman, whom is making $5M per year. Their QBs are future HoF's and that's why they are successful.

I might buy the argument of people getting overpaid due to the cap increasing, but if I was Jordy I'd be pissed. He's way more valuable as a receiver than Cobb and Cobb may be paid more. I can see the Packers getting close but not overtaking Jordy's deal ($9.7M/year). That would kind of be a slap in the face.

And I still say if I am Cobb I think about my career on the packers vs. my career on the raiders or jags...one potential HOF, the others washed up and out of the league in 6 years.

Edit to add that I am Cobb dynasty owner. I have watched him play a ton and I Don't think he is all that. He's a good wr...but there are a ton of good wrs.

Your second sentence kinda negates you first sentence. You don't think he's all that but yet you think he is a HOF WR if he stays in GB?

I dont think he is all that. I don't think reggie wayne was all that. I think they are pretty good wrs in absolutely phenomenal situations. Reggie Wayne gets drafted by the jags or raiders and he isn't even in a conversation of good wrs in this league

 

[starks]

So as far as us owners are concerned am I far off by saying...

Packers

Oakland

Jags

Browns?

 

[Casting Couch]

That makes sense. Kansas City may be somewhere in the mix. It's been about 5 years since any KC WR has caught a TD pass.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

That makes sense. Kansas City may be somewhere in the mix. It's been about 5 years since any KC WR has caught a TD pass.

I beleive Kansas City is already over the cap.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Cobb is good... not 10-12m good.

GB knows that Rodgers will elevate whoever steps in (adams)... at a fraction of the cost.

I know they're not the same WRs, but would fans prefer Crabtree at 5-6m over Cobb at 10-12?

Jesus, No! Crabtree is awful.

I would take anyone over Crab. Anyone. That guy is simply dreadful.

 

[ghostguy123]

Its hilarious that people call cobb "stupid" if he leaves a few million on the table and stays in GB.

 

[beef]

That makes sense. Kansas City may be somewhere in the mix. It's been about 5 years since any KC WR has caught a TD pass.

I beleive Kansas City is already over the cap.

bowe will get cut soon.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Cobb is good... not 10-12m good.

GB knows that Rodgers will elevate whoever steps in (adams)... at a fraction of the cost.

I know they're not the same WRs, but would fans prefer Crabtree at 5-6m over Cobb at 10-12?

Jesus, No! Crabtree is awful.

I would take anyone over Crab. Anyone. That guy is simply dreadful.

Yup, I wouldn't want Crabtree for vet minimum, he's a waste of a roster spot

 

[Dr. Octopus]

That makes sense. Kansas City may be somewhere in the mix. It's been about 5 years since any KC WR has caught a TD pass.

I beleive Kansas City is already over the cap.

bowe will get cut soon.

Is that going to put them the $11-12MM under they need to sign Cobb?

 

[Casting Couch]

Its hilarious that people call cobb "stupid" if he leaves a few million on the table and stays in GB.

I don't think anyone is saying this at all. Some of us are saying he would be stupid if he signed with GB without seeing how much other teams would pony up for his services.

 

[ghostguy123]

Its hilarious that people call cobb "stupid" if he leaves a few million on the table and stays in GB.

I don't think anyone is saying this at all. Some of us are saying he would be stupid if he signed with GB without seeing how much other teams would pony up for his services.

there have been several people who say he is stupid he if takes 2 million less per year from GB rather than leave.

Some people prefer to be rich and happy than rich and miserable. It happens.

 

[beef]

That makes sense. Kansas City may be somewhere in the mix. It's been about 5 years since any KC WR has caught a TD pass.

I beleive Kansas City is already over the cap.

bowe will get cut soon.

Is that going to put them the $11-12MM under they need to sign Cobb?

bowe is about a $14 mil cap hit from what i've read. pretty sure they're still about $3 mil or so over right now though. it'd be close and would surprise me if they did sign cobb.

 

[12punch]

if there are 3 teams in the league that won't sign cobb, kc is one of them

 

[Banger]

Its hilarious that people call cobb "stupid" if he leaves a few million on the table and stays in GB.

I don't think anyone is saying this at all. Some of us are saying he would be stupid if he signed with GB without seeing how much other teams would pony up for his services.

there have been several people who say he is stupid he if takes 2 million less per year from GB rather than leave.

Some people prefer to be rich and happy than rich and miserable. It happens.

Shady, one of the best Rbs in the league was rich and happy and now what. Football is a business and the minute a team can cut you because they can save money, you're injured, you aren't playing up to your contract they will. What you think is a happy situation now can quickly change. Every year you see it...Andre Johnson the latest.

These guys generally have a 10 year window max to earn their money that most will have to live on for the rest of their lives and despite that most end up broke.

You're assumption is that he'll go somewhere else and make more money but be unhappy. There's also a good chance that he can get richer and be happier somewhere else. At the end of the day if GB really loved Cobb and wanted to keep him they could so why should he have to take less than he's worth to stay with them? If it's a few bucks maybe you take that risk but if we're talking 2 mill a year over 5 years there are very very few players that are going to give that up.

 

[massraider]

Its hilarious that people call cobb "stupid" if he leaves a few million on the table and stays in GB.

I don't think anyone is saying this at all. Some of us are saying he would be stupid if he signed with GB without seeing how much other teams would pony up for his services.

there have been several people who say he is stupid he if takes 2 million less per year from GB rather than leave.

Some people prefer to be rich and happy than rich and miserable. It happens.

People sure are magnanimous when it's other people's money.

 

[pizzatyme]

I like Cobb's upside on the Raiders more than on the Packers. I'm sure I'm in the vast minority there.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Its hilarious that people call cobb "stupid" if he leaves a few million on the table and stays in GB.

I don't think anyone is saying this at all. Some of us are saying he would be stupid if he signed with GB without seeing how much other teams would pony up for his services.

there have been several people who say he is stupid he if takes 2 million less per year from GB rather than leave.

Some people prefer to be rich and happy than rich and miserable. It happens.

People sure are magnanimous when it's other people's money.

On top of that, not every player's happiness is derived from winning. Some athletes see this merely as a job and have the same demeanor in the locker room after a loss as they do after a win.

Maybe playing in sunny California or Florida would bring Cobb more happiness than freezing his ### off in Wisconsin every year. Also things change fast in the NFL. Oakland and Jax have some young talent in place, are in the top 10 of the draft, and a boatload of cap room. Who is to say that one (or both) of those teams aren't in the playoffs as soon as this year? - especially if they add Cobb to the mix.

 

[sho nuff]

Its hilarious that people call cobb "stupid" if he leaves a few million on the table and stays in GB.

I don't think anyone is saying this at all. Some of us are saying he would be stupid if he signed with GB without seeing how much other teams would pony up for his services.

there have been several people who say he is stupid he if takes 2 million less per year from GB rather than leave.

Some people prefer to be rich and happy than rich and miserable. It happens.

Shady, one of the best Rbs in the league was rich and happy and now what. Football is a business and the minute a team can cut you because they can save money, you're injured, you aren't playing up to your contract they will. What you think is a happy situation now can quickly change. Every year you see it...Andre Johnson the latest.

These guys generally have a 10 year window max to earn their money that most will have to live on for the rest of their lives and despite that most end up broke.

You're assumption is that he'll go somewhere else and make more money but be unhappy. There's also a good chance that he can get richer and be happier somewhere else. At the end of the day if GB really loved Cobb and wanted to keep him they could so why should he have to take less than he's worth to stay with them? If it's a few bucks maybe you take that risk but if we're talking 2 mill a year over 5 years there are very very few players that are going to give that up.

Nobody is saying he just "should" take less.

People have stated why he might...it was over the top saying he would be miserable though.

Oh, and Shady wasn't cut...Johnson is 33 years old.

But again, if you look at the odds...barring injury.

Where is Cobb less likely to get cut...Green Bay (which has been pretty well run and who typically will give guys they drafted chance after chance..AJ Hawk, Sherrod...) or a more poorly run team like Jax or Oakland?

 

[sho nuff]

Its hilarious that people call cobb "stupid" if he leaves a few million on the table and stays in GB.

I don't think anyone is saying this at all. Some of us are saying he would be stupid if he signed with GB without seeing how much other teams would pony up for his services.

there have been several people who say he is stupid he if takes 2 million less per year from GB rather than leave.

Some people prefer to be rich and happy than rich and miserable. It happens.

People sure are magnanimous when it's other people's money.

On top of that, not every player's happiness is derived from winning. Some athletes see this merely as a job and have the same demeanor in the locker room after a loss as they do after a win.

Maybe playing in sunny California or Florida would bring Cobb more happiness than freezing his ### off in Wisconsin every year. Also things change fast in the NFL. Oakland and Jax have some young talent in place, are in the top 10 of the draft, and a boatload of cap room. Who is to say that one (or both) of those teams aren't in the playoffs as soon as this year? - especially if they add Cobb to the mix.

And some player's happiness is not just derived from making more money. Some athletes do want to win and play with a HOF caliber QB.

Weather...sure..could be a factor.

As for teams being in the playoffs...odds are still pretty good that GB will be a playoff team and contender for the length of Cobb's contract...far better odds than Jax or Oakland over the next 4-5 years.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Its hilarious that people call cobb "stupid" if he leaves a few million on the table and stays in GB.

I don't think anyone is saying this at all. Some of us are saying he would be stupid if he signed with GB without seeing how much other teams would pony up for his services.

there have been several people who say he is stupid he if takes 2 million less per year from GB rather than leave.

Some people prefer to be rich and happy than rich and miserable. It happens.

People sure are magnanimous when it's other people's money.

On top of that, not every player's happiness is derived from winning. Some athletes see this merely as a job and have the same demeanor in the locker room after a loss as they do after a win.

Maybe playing in sunny California or Florida would bring Cobb more happiness than freezing his ### off in Wisconsin every year. Also things change fast in the NFL. Oakland and Jax have some young talent in place, are in the top 10 of the draft, and a boatload of cap room. Who is to say that one (or both) of those teams aren't in the playoffs as soon as this year? - especially if they add Cobb to the mix.

And some player's happiness is not just derived from making more money. Some athletes do want to win and play with a HOF caliber QB.

Weather...sure..could be a factor.

As for teams being in the playoffs...odds are still pretty good that GB will be a playoff team and contender for the length of Cobb's contract...far better odds than Jax or Oakland over the next 4-5 years.

Sure. I don't know what is in Cobb's head at all. That's the point. None of us do. Maybe money is the biggest factor. Maybe it's winning. Maybe it's location. Maybe he thinks Rodgers is a great guy as well as a great QB. Maybe he likes the challenge of going to a team and being it's best weapon. Maybe he wants to be closer to his real home.

We'll see.

 

[kface]

Its hilarious that people call cobb "stupid" if he leaves a few million on the table and stays in GB.

I don't think anyone is saying this at all. Some of us are saying he would be stupid if he signed with GB without seeing how much other teams would pony up for his services.

there have been several people who say he is stupid he if takes 2 million less per year from GB rather than leave.

Some people prefer to be rich and happy than rich and miserable. It happens.

People sure are magnanimous when it's other people's money.

On top of that, not every player's happiness is derived from winning. Some athletes see this merely as a job and have the same demeanor in the locker room after a loss as they do after a win.

Maybe playing in sunny California or Florida would bring Cobb more happiness than freezing his ### off in Wisconsin every year. Also things change fast in the NFL. Oakland and Jax have some young talent in place, are in the top 10 of the draft, and a boatload of cap room. Who is to say that one (or both) of those teams aren't in the playoffs as soon as this year? - especially if they add Cobb to the mix.

And some player's happiness is not just derived from making more money. Some athletes do want to win and play with a HOF caliber QB.

Weather...sure..could be a factor.

As for teams being in the playoffs...odds are still pretty good that GB will be a playoff team and contender for the length of Cobb's contract...far better odds than Jax or Oakland over the next 4-5 years.

Big mistake by Cobb not staying in GB (career wise not money wise)

I think he takes a huge hit...finishes maybe 70-800-5 next year in oakland. The worst part about that for me as a dynasty owner is he really goes to having a weekly floor of probably 2-17 and a weekly ceiling of maybe 8-100-1. I think Carr is good but he doesn't seem like the transcendent talent on a team that will allow him to just put up better and better numbers. I wouldn't be surprised if this season matches his last or if you saw a slight regression or maybe a slight progression. Either way that kills cobb. WR1 in fantasy to probably wr3

Smart move by the pack though. Rodgers will make whoever steps up a star.

 

[sho nuff]

Its hilarious that people call cobb "stupid" if he leaves a few million on the table and stays in GB.

I don't think anyone is saying this at all. Some of us are saying he would be stupid if he signed with GB without seeing how much other teams would pony up for his services.

there have been several people who say he is stupid he if takes 2 million less per year from GB rather than leave.

Some people prefer to be rich and happy than rich and miserable. It happens.

People sure are magnanimous when it's other people's money.

On top of that, not every player's happiness is derived from winning. Some athletes see this merely as a job and have the same demeanor in the locker room after a loss as they do after a win.

Maybe playing in sunny California or Florida would bring Cobb more happiness than freezing his ### off in Wisconsin every year. Also things change fast in the NFL. Oakland and Jax have some young talent in place, are in the top 10 of the draft, and a boatload of cap room. Who is to say that one (or both) of those teams aren't in the playoffs as soon as this year? - especially if they add Cobb to the mix.

And some player's happiness is not just derived from making more money. Some athletes do want to win and play with a HOF caliber QB.

Weather...sure..could be a factor.

As for teams being in the playoffs...odds are still pretty good that GB will be a playoff team and contender for the length of Cobb's contract...far better odds than Jax or Oakland over the next 4-5 years.

Sure. I don't know what is in Cobb's head at all. That's the point. None of us do. Maybe money is the biggest factor. Maybe it's winning. Maybe it's location. Maybe he thinks Rodgers is a great guy as well as a great QB. Maybe he likes the challenge of going to a team and being it's best weapon. Maybe he wants to be closer to his real home.

We'll see.

Yes...it is the point...none of us know. So saying he "is going to stay for less" is as bad as saying he is foolish if he does...or foolish if he does not test the market.

Real home is Alcoa TN...Jax would be a tiny bit closer than GB. Oakland would be much further away.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Randall Cobb is a very good football player. He's 24 and has more room for growth.

Both sides are playing this exactly as they should.

Cobb is a good, young, still developing NFL talent. He should seek as much as he can get at this stage. It might be his only shot at the big pay day.

Green Bay, with all of their needs and their penchant for finding WR talent, is right not to want to pay him the $12M or so he's seeking.

In looking at it as objectively as I can, losing Cobb will hurt Green Bay. He helped in the return game. He was a matchup nightmare out of the backfield. He had a knack for getting open on broken plays, which is key for a guy like Rodgers that can extend plays.

We haven't seen a Cobb type replacement on the roster. That doesn't mean a Janis or Abbrederis isn't that guy. Or perhaps it's someone they draft.

Short term, the Green Bay offense takes a hit. Long term, it's probably the right call.

 

[massraider]

Short term, the Green Bay offense takes a hit. Long term, it's probably the right call.

Yes. I might argue that a $9 mill average could be a mistake, as well, for GB.

Having a big money QB, and two big money WRs, I'm betting that Thompson doesn't think that's the wisest move. The team has proven that the next WR up is gonna perform, even if in a different manner than the previous guy. The offense may put up yards in a different manner next year, but no one is dropping Rodgers down their dynasty boards.

 

[Banger]

Randall Cobb is a very good football player. He's 24 and has more room for growth.

Both sides are playing this exactly as they should.

Cobb is a good, young, still developing NFL talent. He should seek as much as he can get at this stage. It might be his only shot at the big pay day.

Green Bay, with all of their needs and their penchant for finding WR talent, is right not to want to pay him the $12M or so he's seeking.

In looking at it as objectively as I can, losing Cobb will hurt Green Bay. He helped in the return game. He was a matchup nightmare out of the backfield. He had a knack for getting open on broken plays, which is key for a guy like Rodgers that can extend plays.

We haven't seen a Cobb type replacement on the roster. That doesn't mean a Janis or Abbrederis isn't that guy. Or perhaps it's someone they draft.

Short term, the Green Bay offense takes a hit. Long term, it's probably the right call.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I think he takes a huge hit...finishes maybe 70-800-5 next year in oakland.

James Jones finished last year 73-666-6 with Carr as a rookie. I think Cobb is better than Jones, and Carr should (theoretically at least) improve in his second season.