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With Dunn on the mend Norwood is dropping down my list and Snelling is creeping onto the radar too.
BigSteelThrill said:
The reports I saw said STOMACH ILLNESS. Which is a far cry from an injury.
Am I the only one that thought Rodgers and his new 70's porn-star look, played a pretty good game? His poise was really good and so was his timing.
 
Favre seems optimistic about DD. for whatever that's worth.
Hope he's right. J
Well the good news is that it doesn't seem like he will be out for the year. When he'll play seems to be the big question. The Packers are tight on players with all the injuries. If its 2 weeks he probably stays. If its 4 or 5 weeks with a 7th week bye they could PUP him to save the space. We should know soon.
 
scott72 said:
Sprained foot for DD. No other info given by McCarthy..
FWIW, two threads going, Driver getting an MRI today and a more informed(right wording?) announcement will come some time today.
 
Diamond said:
kurtrudder said:
any Mike Walker sightings?
He was out there in the 4th quarter, but I don't think he got a single target.
No he didn't look goodI didn't think Sharon looked very good either. Sharon though was part of Leftwich's crew of WRs and I thought Leftwich was horrible. I would give Sharon a mulligan there but NFL coaches never do that. It's all about making the most of opportunities to them. IIRC each WR has had a start now except for Broussard. I don't believe Sharon or Mike Walker did well with their start. That's probably something to remember.If they went on just preseason, I figure, they would start Wilford and Northcutt with Broussard as the top backup. As you know they don't just do that. In practice, from reading, it's obvious Wilford and Northcutt have been two of the better WRs there as well. IMO it seems they started preseason as the faves to start and have solidified that. I imagine Del Rio would prefer to be analyzing production and not lack of to evaluate starters but I think it's a stretch for anyone to think another player is starting week 1 besides those two.Sorry to go off on tangents but most lead right back to those two.One sidenote-I bet JDR loved Reggie going back over the middle after that hit. As bad as the press has been on Reggie, I think he earned some points with JDR last night. I don't think many NFL WRs would have with such tenacity and Del Rio "eats up" all that tough guy shtick.
 
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switz said:
ConstruxBoy said:
Jackson looking tentative. He's over thinking and not trusting his instincts for some reason.
I think "he sucks" is the concise phrase for Jackson.
I think the line sucked last night is the right phrase.LT could not have run through the "holes' they were creating in the 1st half.
 
switz said:
ConstruxBoy said:
Jackson looking tentative. He's over thinking and not trusting his instincts for some reason.
I think "he sucks" is the concise phrase for Jackson.
I think the line sucked last night is the right phrase.LT could not have run through the "holes' they were creating in the 1st half.
The line didn't create great gaping holes, that's for sure.But that was the first I'd seen of Jackson, and he looked awfully slow in getting to/through the holes when they were there...

Like he was taking an extra split-second to decide where he was going...just long enough for the hole to slam shut.

 
Are we now thinking Morency will actually be the guy?
My thinking all along has been if healthy, Morency will be the starter at the beginning of the season at least.I still think Morency ends up getting the majority of the carries for the year.
 
i think last year's performance by Morency and the 2nd round drafting of Jackson shows what the Packers intend for Vernand.

he's a change of pace guy. a nice backup option. not an every down guy.

he has superior quickness and probably elusiveness but he hasn't proven that he can start. he didn't in Houston and most probably won't here. if they thought Morency was the guy they wouldn't have grabbed Jackson in rd 2.

 
Like he was taking an extra split-second to decide where he was going...just long enough for the hole to slam shut.
I think that's right. In fact his timing was off everywhere from what little you can see on TV. Stepping up too early to block, releasing with the wrong timing on screens and then pausing just a split second too long when picking his holes.
 
i think last year's performance by Morency and the 2nd round drafting of Jackson shows what the Packers intend for Vernand.

he's a change of pace guy. a nice backup option. not an every down guy.

he has superior quickness and probably elusiveness but he hasn't proven that he can start. he didn't in Houston and most probably won't here. if they thought Morency was the guy they wouldn't have grabbed Jackson in rd 2.
Jackson has not proven he could start either.And I hate the old "if they thought X was the guy they would not have grabbed X in round 2".

How much does round 2 mean next year?

So should we say the same thing about Jennings. If they thought he was the guy, they would not have drafted Jones....and so on.

That is how teams end up with no depth. While they like Morency, Jackson was drafted to try to eventually be the guy...but for this year, I don't think he will be.

Morency showed last year he could handle the offense and handle it well.

 
Like he was taking an extra split-second to decide where he was going...just long enough for the hole to slam shut.
I think that's right. In fact his timing was off everywhere from what little you can see on TV. Stepping up too early to block, releasing with the wrong timing on screens and then pausing just a split second too long when picking his holes.
no doubt he's thinking too much and is a split second late or early on some of his decisions but that's to be expected. i think the staff might be forcing a lot down his throat early because he's the #1 right now and needs to be ready for Sept 9. expect a rocky go of it early, particularly against the Vikings, Chargers and Bears.
 
i think last year's performance by Morency and the 2nd round drafting of Jackson shows what the Packers intend for Vernand.

he's a change of pace guy. a nice backup option. not an every down guy.

he has superior quickness and probably elusiveness but he hasn't proven that he can start. he didn't in Houston and most probably won't here. if they thought Morency was the guy they wouldn't have grabbed Jackson in rd 2.
Jackson has not proven he could start either.And I hate the old "if they thought X was the guy they would not have grabbed X in round 2".

How much does round 2 mean next year?

So should we say the same thing about Jennings. If they thought he was the guy, they would not have drafted Jones....and so on.

That is how teams end up with no depth. While they like Morency, Jackson was drafted to try to eventually be the guy...but for this year, I don't think he will be.

Morency showed last year he could handle the offense and handle it well.
:banned: difference of opinion. i think Morency is an injury waiting to happen if you feed him the ball and he couldn't start in Houston ahead of Lundy, Davis or Dayne. difference between RBs and WRs is, you start 1 running back and you have one primary backup. with WR's you start 2 (some teams 3) and you need backups at each spot. drafting a WR in the 3rd rd doesn't mean you're trying to displace the starter.. particularly when you have no depth there.

though i suppose the same could be said of drafting Jackson with the "depth" they had at RB.

we'll see how it plays out. i just hope they both stay healthy, the line play picks up and they can be a viable weapon. :popcorn:

 
Diamond said:
kurtrudder said:
any Mike Walker sightings?
He was out there in the 4th quarter, but I don't think he got a single target.
No he didn't look goodI didn't think Sharon looked very good either. Sharon though was part of Leftwich's crew of WRs and I thought Leftwich was horrible. I would give Sharon a mulligan there but NFL coaches never do that. It's all about making the most of opportunities to them. IIRC each WR has had a start now except for Broussard. I don't believe Sharon or Mike Walker did well with their start. That's probably something to remember.
For the record, I wasn't saying Walker didn't look good. Just that they didn't look at him at all.Which game did Walker start? I've only seen him in the second half this preseason, but I may well have missed it.
 
switz said:
ConstruxBoy said:
Jackson looking tentative. He's over thinking and not trusting his instincts for some reason.
I think "he sucks" is the concise phrase for Jackson.
I think the line sucked last night is the right phrase.LT could not have run through the "holes' they were creating in the 1st half.
Actually LT spent a few years putting up excellent stats behind a line that couldn't open holes. You weren't seriously trying to compare Jackson to LT though, were you? :yes: Jackson looked AWFUL last night, even if he DID get a TD.
 
i think last year's performance by Morency and the 2nd round drafting of Jackson shows what the Packers intend for Vernand.

he's a change of pace guy. a nice backup option. not an every down guy.

he has superior quickness and probably elusiveness but he hasn't proven that he can start. he didn't in Houston and most probably won't here. if they thought Morency was the guy they wouldn't have grabbed Jackson in rd 2.
Jackson has not proven he could start either.And I hate the old "if they thought X was the guy they would not have grabbed X in round 2".

How much does round 2 mean next year?

So should we say the same thing about Jennings. If they thought he was the guy, they would not have drafted Jones....and so on.

That is how teams end up with no depth. While they like Morency, Jackson was drafted to try to eventually be the guy...but for this year, I don't think he will be.

Morency showed last year he could handle the offense and handle it well.
:shrug: difference of opinion. i think Morency is an injury waiting to happen if you feed him the ball and he couldn't start in Houston ahead of Lundy, Davis or Dayne. difference between RBs and WRs is, you start 1 running back and you have one primary backup. with WR's you start 2 (some teams 3) and you need backups at each spot. drafting a WR in the 3rd rd doesn't mean you're trying to displace the starter.. particularly when you have no depth there.

though i suppose the same could be said of drafting Jackson with the "depth" they had at RB.

we'll see how it plays out. i just hope they both stay healthy, the line play picks up and they can be a viable weapon. :pickle:
Its definitely all opinion. I just like what I did see out of Morency last year.And Jackson has not exactly been a picture of perfect health his college career.

The line play definitely needs to pick up. That effort last night was pathetic.

 
switz said:
ConstruxBoy said:
Jackson looking tentative. He's over thinking and not trusting his instincts for some reason.
I think "he sucks" is the concise phrase for Jackson.
I think the line sucked last night is the right phrase.LT could not have run through the "holes' they were creating in the 1st half.
Actually LT spent a few years putting up excellent stats behind a line that couldn't open holes. You weren't seriously trying to compare Jackson to LT though, were you? :pickle: Jackson looked AWFUL last night, even if he DID get a TD.
Umm...no, not trying to compare him to LT at all...just using the analogy to describe how I felt about how poorly the line run blocked last night.Jackson looked ok in the pass game. Missed the one blitz pick up, and did about all he could do running the ball.Looked ok on the TD run, as they announcers noticed, he got his pads low and went on in.
 
The line play definitely needs to pick up. That effort last night was pathetic.
this is my chief concern as well.but as a friend of mine said "Wells is always going to struggle against the really, really bigtackles, and Jax has two of the best." that, Spitz being out w/ Coston in there and Colledge not really being a great drive run-blocker yet makes for a rough go against a team like Jax.
 
The line play definitely needs to pick up. That effort last night was pathetic.
this is my chief concern as well.but as a friend of mine said "Wells is always going to struggle against the really, really bigtackles, and Jax has two of the best." that, Spitz being out w/ Coston in there and Colledge not really being a great drive run-blocker yet makes for a rough go against a team like Jax.
Yeah...will have the same concerns when we play Minny.
 
The line play definitely needs to pick up. That effort last night was pathetic.
this is my chief concern as well.but as a friend of mine said "Wells is always going to struggle against the really, really bigtackles, and Jax has two of the best." that, Spitz being out w/ Coston in there and Colledge not really being a great drive run-blocker yet makes for a rough go against a team like Jax.
Yeah...will have the same concerns when we play Minny.
yupand Jamaal (sp?) Williams in San Diego as well.
 
switz said:
sho nuff said:
az_prof said:
Are we now thinking Morency will actually be the guy?
RBBC. That's what I see. Morency will be the third down guy and receiving back and Jackson will play first and second and goal line.
Right now Herron is actually the 3rd down guy.
Right now Morency is out :wub:
Umm...yes, and I have yet to see a single credible source or quote from a coach whereas Morency becomes the 3rd down back.Herron did fine in that role last year (while Morency was getting the start with Green out).So take your :rolleyes: somewhere else.
 
mr. furley said:
sho nuff said:
mr. furley said:
sho nuff said:
The line play definitely needs to pick up. That effort last night was pathetic.
this is my chief concern as well.but as a friend of mine said "Wells is always going to struggle against the really, really bigtackles, and Jax has two of the best." that, Spitz being out w/ Coston in there and Colledge not really being a great drive run-blocker yet makes for a rough go against a team like Jax.
Yeah...will have the same concerns when we play Minny.
yupand Jamaal (sp?) Williams in San Diego as well.
the 3-4 as a whole tends to give the Packers fits.
 

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