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Packers first loss (1 Viewer)

1st loss(if any)?


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cr8f

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No I don't think a poll jinxes them. Even if they lose 2 and lose home field to SF it would be a home game for Rodgers' family and many friends.

Philly or the Saints could get hot and win home field if SF and Green Bay falter but that looks doubtful right now.

Saying that who will they lose to first if anyone?

Right now

7-0 Packers

6-1 SF

6-2 Lions

5-2 NY

5-3 Saints

4-3 Bears, Bucs & Falcons

3-4 Eagles, Skins, & Cowboys

 
I don't think the defense is playing well enough for them to go undefeated. No idea who will beat them though.

 
A team with a great offense, particularly a great run game that can pound the ball on their suspect D will have a decent chance of outscoring them. Looking at their schedule...I mean they have to lose at some point, but who there fits that bill?

 
I think they go undefeated. That presumes them remaining healthy which is a trick unto itself, but if they do, I think Rodgers is playing incredibly and could very well lead them to an undefeated regular season.

 
@SD

@NYG

@Det

I agree with others who say the other team has to have an offense capable of putting up big points. I also think the other team playing at home will help. So, I think it is most likely to be one of the three above. I don't think the Bucs are playing well enough to beat a team of GB's calibre. Det seems to be tailing off, SD is struggling offensively, so I would say that Eli and the Giants have the best shot.

However, having said that, I like GB to go undefeated :)

 
Let's look at it logically.

First - can the team put up points? Limit this group to the top half of point scorers...

@Chargers (0 votes [0.00%])

Vikings Nov 14 (3 votes [23.08%] - View)

Tampa Nov 20 (1 votes [7.69%] - View)

@Lions Nov 24 (3 votes [23.08%] - View)

@NY Giants Dec 4 (3 votes [23.08%] - View)

Raiders Dec 11 (0 votes [0.00%])

@KC Dec 18 (0 votes [0.00%])

Chicago Christmas Day (1 votes [7.69%] - View)

Detroit at Lambeau New Years Day (0 votes [0.00%])

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Next, can this team limit a passing attack? Lets say in the lower half of yards allowed...

Vikings Nov 14 (3 votes [23.08%] - View)

@Lions Nov 24 (3 votes [23.08%] - View)

@NY Giants Dec 4 (3 votes [23.08%] - View)

Chicago Christmas Day (1 votes [7.69%] - View)

Detroit at Lambeau New Years Day (0 votes [0.00%])

Leaving two away games, two against Detroit and the Giants.

Logic dictates Thanksgiving is their biggest challenge - 4 days rest, Lions can put up points and limit the air game.

But my gut does say watch out for the Bucs as Freeman goes off.

 
My gut says SD surprises.... Who knows? But then again, I am a bitter VJax owner, so I am hoping it's a shootout and SD comes out on top.

 
So far Lions and Giants have 4 votes. Last season they destroyed NY and they are running out of receivers, but time will tell.

 
The ridiculous play of Aaron Rodgers has been masking the team's problems, but eventually the offense will have an average week or two, and the defense isn't what it was last year, and and that is when a loss or two or even three will happen.

 
The ridiculous play of Aaron Rodgers has been masking the team's problems, but eventually the offense will have an average week or two, and the defense isn't what it was last year, and and that is when a loss or two or even three will happen.
Thanksgiving Day to the Lions.Have a weird feeling about today too, but I think the extra work in pads this week, and McCarthy's attitude will have this team prepared today.ETA: They also did a lot of extra work on the fundamentals this week too. Tackling, holding onto the ball, etc.
 
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I expect them to have trouble this week. Rodgers is amazing though and will probably prove me wrong.

 
My gut says SD surprises.... Who knows? But then again, I am a bitter VJax owner, so I am hoping it's a shootout and SD comes out on top.
I think SD gets us today. They're a desperate team and we're coming off the bye, and sometimes it takes a team a half or so to wake up from being off. Tough road game.
 
Let's look at it logically.

First - can the team put up points? Limit this group to the top half of point scorers...

@Chargers (0 votes [0.00%])

Vikings Nov 14 (3 votes [23.08%] - View)

Tampa Nov 20 (1 votes [7.69%] - View)

@Lions Nov 24 (3 votes [23.08%] - View)

@NY Giants Dec 4 (3 votes [23.08%] - View)

Raiders Dec 11 (0 votes [0.00%])

@KC Dec 18 (0 votes [0.00%])

Chicago Christmas Day (1 votes [7.69%] - View)

Detroit at Lambeau New Years Day (0 votes [0.00%])

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Next, can this team limit a passing attack? Lets say in the lower half of yards allowed...

Vikings Nov 14 (3 votes [23.08%] - View)

@Lions Nov 24 (3 votes [23.08%] - View)

@NY Giants Dec 4 (3 votes [23.08%] - View)

Chicago Christmas Day (1 votes [7.69%] - View)

Detroit at Lambeau New Years Day (0 votes [0.00%])

Leaving two away games, two against Detroit and the Giants.

Logic dictates Thanksgiving is their biggest challenge - 4 days rest, Lions can put up points and limit the air game.

But my gut does say watch out for the Bucs as Freeman goes off.
You should be looking at points and yards per game, not total.
 
Definitely the Lions. They even played the Pack tough at Lambeau last year. Being in Det on Thanksgiving they'll treat it like a playoff game.

I'm not getting the Giants love at all. The Giants are a banged up team that lost at home to the Seahawks and struggled at home to beat the winless Dolphins. Unless it's a Dec blizzard I think Rodgers carves that defense up.

I think the Bears get GB at Lambeau too. GB will have home field wrapped up by then while Chicago will be fighting for a wildcard. GB won't sit starters or anything like that however they just won't match the Bears intensity and the Bears pull one out.

14-2 will be the Packers final record.

 
Tough one to figure out. I mean, the odds of course are that they don't, since only two teams have ever done it. As a Lions fan, I would LIKE to say one of the two meetings with us.

But outside of that...? MAYBE the Giants if everyone is back and healthy? Raiders if Palmer and everyone is firing on all cylinders? Bears?

 
Honestly, it's just as likely at this point to be the Bucs or Raiders as it is the Lions or Giants. On paper no team can keep pace with the Packers offense. But it just takes a slightly off day and the right set of circumstances to lose a game.

One thing that interests me is, we haven't seen them in a situation where they're trailing late in the 4th. You know if the Packers are going to lose a game, it's not going to be a blowout. So at some point we're going to see how Rodgers and the offense plays with the game on the line. Should be interesting. :popcorn:

 
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I voted K.C. It sounds crazy but they rarely win in K.C.

Thanksgiving game will be tough but Rodgers has been ultra good in domes on turf. It certainly does look like Rodgers is masking the Packers problems.

FYI, that's what Superstar QB's do in this day & age of parity driven, QB friendly, NFL.

 
I voted K.C. It sounds crazy but they rarely win in K.C.Thanksgiving game will be tough but Rodgers has been ultra good in domes on turf. It certainly does look like Rodgers is masking the Packers problems.FYI, that's what Superstar QB's do in this day & age of parity driven, QB friendly, NFL.
That is true. Favre won for the first time just a few years ago but only played there two other times since 1990.
 
Green Bay's defense can be had, that's for sure. They are really missing Nick Collins. But they will continue to improve as the weather gets worse and the end of the season draws near. Part of the problem is that the offense is so effective, the defense gets exposed. Like yesterday. How many drives did the Packers have in the first quarter? I think it was only one.

 
Tough one to figure out. I mean, the odds of course are that they don't, since only two teams have ever done it. As a Lions fan, I would LIKE to say one of the two meetings with us.But outside of that...? MAYBE the Giants if everyone is back and healthy? Raiders if Palmer and everyone is firing on all cylinders? Bears?
I picked up McFadden in a trade with my favorite Green and Gold circled on the schedule. If he plays, he is going to shred that defense. 200+ rushing wouldn't shock anyone.
 
Tough one to figure out. I mean, the odds of course are that they don't, since only two teams have ever done it. As a Lions fan, I would LIKE to say one of the two meetings with us.But outside of that...? MAYBE the Giants if everyone is back and healthy? Raiders if Palmer and everyone is firing on all cylinders? Bears?
I picked up McFadden in a trade with my favorite Green and Gold circled on the schedule. If he plays, he is going to shred that defense. 200+ rushing wouldn't shock anyone.
200 yards? It would shock me, I think the defense is playing worse because the offense has been so good.They need to get preseason star Vic So 'Oto into games to see is he can get pressure on the passer.Most weeks he hasn't even been active. Give him a shot Capers.
 
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Giants have the DLine to do it.

Get to Rodgers without comitting to blitzing extra guys...same with Detroit.

They also have the passing offenses to exploit GB's defense that can't seem to rush a QB consistently right now.

Hopefully they get Neal back in the next few weeks and he provides a spark.

 
'sho nuff said:
Giants have the DLine to do it.Get to Rodgers without comitting to blitzing extra guys...same with Detroit.They also have the passing offenses to exploit GB's defense that can't seem to rush a QB consistently right now.Hopefully they get Neal back in the next few weeks and he provides a spark.
If they can play like they did against the Pats, they can win against the Pack. But it will take a very well-played game with few mistakes.
 
200 yards rushing? I don't think so. Maybe on swing passes, so receiving is possible but they better get the lead if the Raiders are going to do that. So far, nobody has been able to.

 
Lot of people on the Giants here. I don't follow the team closely. What are the specifics on the Giants D that would lead you to reasonably expect a different outcome than last year (515 yards and 45 points), especially considering the Packers offense is plus Finley, Starks, Grant, and Cobb this time around? Improved personel? Schemes? Were they missing key guys that game? Just playing better now?

If I was forced to pick a team I'd go with the Lions, simply because they were the last team to beat the Packers with Rodgers under center.

 
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@NY Giants, imo, is going to be their toughest test for the following reasons.

1. This will be the second strait tough road game.

2. The Giants have a stronger running game than the Lions have

3. The Giants have more offensive weapons than the Lions even if Stafford is a better QB than Eli Manning.

 
@NY Giants, imo, is going to be their toughest test for the following reasons. 1. This will be the second strait tough road game.2. The Giants have a stronger running game than the Lions have 3. The Giants have more offensive weapons than the Lions even if Stafford is a better QB than Eli Manning.
I agree with you, but not for those reasons. The Giants average 88.8 ypg on 3.3 ypc while the Lions average 95.3 ypg on 4.1 ypc. Also Megatron, Burleson, Pettigrew, Scheffler, Titus Young, and probably Best at that point I think are better than Cruz, Manningham, Ballard, Bradshaw, Jacobs, and a banged up Nicks. Definitely think Eli is better than Stafford at this point as well.
 
I voted none. They are just better than any team in the league, and if they lose it's only because they beat themselves. I don't believe in the "law of averages" or the "but they're due" theories. The remainding teams on their schedules can make a good game of it, but A. Rodgers is a just sick and I don't see them ending any games outside of a victory formation kneeldown.

 
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'Sabertooth said:
Tough one to figure out. I mean, the odds of course are that they don't, since only two teams have ever done it. As a Lions fan, I would LIKE to say one of the two meetings with us.But outside of that...? MAYBE the Giants if everyone is back and healthy? Raiders if Palmer and everyone is firing on all cylinders? Bears?
I picked up McFadden in a trade with my favorite Green and Gold circled on the schedule. If he plays, he is going to shred that defense. 200+ rushing wouldn't shock anyone.
I think the defense is playing worse because the offense has been so good.
What the heck does that mean?? No offense, but that makes no sense. Typically, when an offense plays well, a defense plays better - for three reasons:1) They are rested (the offense keeps the ball = defense, especially D-line and cover guys, isn't wiped)2) They are often playing with a lead. Meaning they can typically focus on pass rushing.3) Even when an offensive drive doesn't end in a score, if they moved the ball, the other team usually is starting in less-than-ideal field position (meaning, the opposing team often has to go the length of the field).I think either the Lions or the Giants present some pretty interesting matchup problems for the Packers. The Lions will also get after Rodgers. Part of depends on which team is healthier - at 100%, the Giants are a little better then the Lions, imho. If the Giants defense can heal up (in the secondary) and Bradshaw is ready, their offense, especially their running game, can take the air out of the Packers pretty quick. They will limit the number of chances Rodgers gets by controlling the clock.
 
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'Sabertooth said:
Tough one to figure out. I mean, the odds of course are that they don't, since only two teams have ever done it. As a Lions fan, I would LIKE to say one of the two meetings with us.But outside of that...? MAYBE the Giants if everyone is back and healthy? Raiders if Palmer and everyone is firing on all cylinders? Bears?
I picked up McFadden in a trade with my favorite Green and Gold circled on the schedule. If he plays, he is going to shred that defense. 200+ rushing wouldn't shock anyone.
I think the defense is playing worse because the offense has been so good.
What the heck does that mean?? No offense, but that makes no sense. Typically, when an offense plays well, a defense plays better - for three reasons:1) They are rested (the offense keeps the ball = defense, especially D-line and cover guys, isn't wiped)2) They are often playing with a lead. Meaning they can typically focus on pass rushing.3) Even when an offensive drive doesn't end in a score, if they moved the ball, the other team usually is starting in less-than-ideal field position (meaning, the opposing team often has to go the length of the field).I think either the Lions or the Giants present some pretty interesting matchup problems for the Packers. The Lions will also get after Rodgers. Part of depends on which team is healthier - at 100%, the Giants are a little better then the Lions, imho. If the Giants defense can heal up (in the secondary) and Bradshaw is ready, their offense, especially their running game, can take the air out of the Packers pretty quick. They will limit the number of chances Rodgers gets by controlling the clock.
It means what I said. It means they think if they don't stop the other team the team will probably still win. The opposite is the team with a poor defense feeling they had to score every time they got the ball.They don't take as many chances and play conservatively.
 
My thinking is that the Lions and Giants are the best bets (voted Giants) to win. To me, the most important thing will be creating a pass rush without blitzing, and those 2 teams are the best eqipped for it. Next would be offensive quick strike capability, which the Lions definitely have, the Giants a little less so. Also think the Eagles would give them a good game, as they have the DBs to play coverage on all those receivers and a great offense.

 
Detroit will beat them on Thanksgiving. That game will be the Lions Superbowl.
The Lions beat the Packers last year. Beating the Packers regular season is not their Superbowl. The Lions may be the team that best matches up to the Packers. Packers still have a ways to go to improve their defense before they are invincible.
 
I hope the Lions and Niners keep the pressure on. I don't want them to rest players entire games late in the year

 

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