Packers Receivers (1 Viewer)

[SammyJankis]

I've seen shades of this topic in several other threads, such as the Cobb thread and the training camp observations thread.

The Packers had one of the best offenses in the league last year. Now they've regained Finley and added a rookie drawing raves in Cobb. Rogers figures to throw a lot of TDs this year, but with so many options will there be viable FF options beyond Finley and Jennings? Let's look at the options:

- Jennings: Huge year last year, but can he expect a drop off with Finley back in the mix?

- Driver: He's still being listed as the starting outside receiver, but will age catch up with him?

- Nelson: Everyone's darling sleeper a month ago based on a fantastic playoffs/super bowl. But now w/ Jones back and Cobb blowing up, are there enough balls to go around for him to have any value?

- Jones: Everyone thought he was as good as gone, but now he's been re-signed. Like Nelson, are there enough balls to go around for him to have any value?

- Cobb: Rookie love fest or not, can a rookie WR working as 5th string have value?

- Finley: Packers design their offense around him last year and he was very good until he got hurt. Does he still get massive targets?

Thoughts? I have Jennings in one league and Finley in another, and am not sure I can get sold on any of the others, unless I can pick them up in the later rounds at a very low value.

 

[Clifford]

I would not make assumptions on the depth chart just yet. Cobb is giving coaches plenty to think about.

 

[Grimace59]

For redraft it seems like Jennings and Finely are the only FF value this year. For Dyno purpose Cobb could play the Percy Harvin role and have WR2/3 value in 2012.

 

[Sabertooth]

For redraft it seems like Jennings and Finely are the only FF value this year. For Dyno purpose Cobb could play the Percy Harvin role and have WR2/3 value in 2012.

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[Anonymous Internet User]

I'm not sure Jennings will command as much of a lead in targets this year given the talent around him, and I can easily see a 20% drop-off as a result. Jennings isn't as skilled as his fantasy numbers would make one think - don't be surprised if James Jones scores 75% of the fantasy points that Jennings does this year.

 

[SammyJankis]

You can make the case all listed here save for Cobb have value in a "best ball" format like the football guys contest. You know like when Nelson is posting something like 1-18, 2-24, 5-160 2TD, 3-24 about every four weeks and you can't really guess what the featured week will be.

I also would like Nelson and to some degree jones if Jennings missed significant time.

 

[Nero]

Driver was terrible to end the season. I gotta believe Jones and Nelson have passed him. I think Jennings will still produce as a borderline #1. I'm counting on Jones to take over as starter and give solid WR3 prduction.

 

[smackdaddies]

I'm not sure Jennings will command as much of a lead in targets this year given the talent around him, and I can easily see a 20% drop-off as a result. Jennings isn't as skilled as his fantasy numbers would make one think - don't be surprised if James Jones scores 75% of the fantasy points that Jennings does this year.

I will take some of that action. Because JJ will be, at best, the 4th leading reciever on the team.

As others have said, in a standard HtH league, it's JFin and Jennings. If your in a bigger all play or a best ball league, Nelson/Jones might have some value, depending on when you got them. Cobb could be interesting if your league scores special team points.

 

[DesmondBishop]

I'm not sure Jennings will command as much of a lead in targets this year given the talent around him, and I can easily see a 20% drop-off as a result. Jennings isn't as skilled as his fantasy numbers would make one think - don't be surprised if James Jones scores 75% of the fantasy points that Jennings does this year.

Totally disagree with this statement, Jennings is a very good wr, excellent hands and very good route runner. He may not get as many targets but it has more to do with Finley being back, then Jennings not being skilled.

 

[SammyJankis]

Saw this today:

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports the three-year deal Packers WR James Jones signed is worth $9.6 million and includes a $1.5 million signing bonus. It's a pretty reasonable contract for a guy who could wind up being the No. 2 receiver.

Does Jones have the inside track to the #2 job?

 

[smackdaddies]

Possibly. Anyone who saw Jones catch that ball, get his lid ripped off, then run it in for a touchdown knows he is tough. He just has to hold on to the damm ball. Still think Driver/Nelson/Jones will all get about the same looks/catches w/ Cobb coming in 5th on the WR

Still hard to project any of those three at more than 50 catches this season, more like 35-40 as Rodgers spreads the ball around.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

After just quickly scanning the target and redzone statistics from the past 3 years, I could see Jones taking another step. He's definitely been in their plans when in the redzone. I could see him ending up with about 850 yards and 9 td's this year which would make him a bargain in drafts.

Rodgers wanted to keep him pretty bad.

 

[Reepicheep]

Personally I don't want any part of Driver/Jones/Nelson. They'll each have some great games but good luck timing the market on that.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Personally I don't want any part of Driver/Jones/Nelson. They'll each have some great games but good luck timing the market on that.

I wouldn't take Driver either. Nelson's current ADP is in the 10th round. Jones' current ADP is in the 13th. Jones costs you nothing and there is actually some upside there compared to other old, worn out WR's being picked at that time in the draft.

 

[smackdaddies]

After just quickly scanning the target and redzone statistics from the past 3 years, I could see Jones taking another step. He's definitely been in their plans when in the redzone. I could see him ending up with about 850 yards and 9 td's this year which would make him a bargain in drafts.Rodgers wanted to keep him pretty bad.

And I could see him as President of the United States. With just about the same odds of achieving either

 

[scrumptrulescent]

After just quickly scanning the target and redzone statistics from the past 3 years, I could see Jones taking another step. He's definitely been in their plans when in the redzone. I could see him ending up with about 850 yards and 9 td's this year which would make him a bargain in drafts.Rodgers wanted to keep him pretty bad.

And I could see him as President of the United States. With just about the same odds of achieving either

I didn't even know he had aspirations to go into politics. Good for him.The yards aren't that much of a stretch at all. He's jumped about 200 yards in production per season over the last 3. His targets have gone up. His targets in the redzone tells me he'll get looks. 9 td's may be optomistic but I don't think that's all that far fetched if Driver is fazed out more and Jones is the #2 WR. Much crazier things have happened.The point is he has upside and can be had in the 13th round. Tell me how many WR's you can find that kind of upside in the 13th round?

 

[Reepicheep]

The yards aren't that much of a stretch at all. He's jumped about 200 yards in production per season over the last 3. His targets have gone up. His targets in the redzone tells me he'll get looks. 9 td's may be optomistic but I don't think that's all that far fetched if Driver is fazed out more and Jones is the #2 WR. Much crazier things have happened.The point is he has upside and can be had in the 13th round. Tell me how many WR's you can find that kind of upside in the 13th round?

Solid points.

 

[Shutout]

Jennings will not be as productive as a lot of people are hoping he will be.

Driver will be more productive than most believe. His injury last year has tainted his perception to a lot. He could be one of the best value late picks you might find a use for in the entire league this year.

Finley will dominate this year and reward his owners with a big advantage in TE mandatory leagues.

Cobb won't be used enough this year but is a good stash in dynasty.

Nelson will be a viable flex.

Jones will be a viable flex. Neither of the last two will be able to be dependable. They are great luxuries/bad needs.

 

[smackdaddies]

After just quickly scanning the target and redzone statistics from the past 3 years, I could see Jones taking another step. He's definitely been in their plans when in the redzone. I could see him ending up with about 850 yards and 9 td's this year which would make him a bargain in drafts.

Rodgers wanted to keep him pretty bad.

Always good to cherry pick the numbers - cause if you back 4 years you see that his performance dropped way off in years 2 and 3, only to rebound when JFin was hurt. In fact, Year 4 was virtually identical to year 1.Better analysis is that if JFin is playing, WR like Jones are going to take a hit in performance, because a real star like JFin is going to get the looks, not them.

 

[shotgun72]

After just quickly scanning the target and redzone statistics from the past 3 years, I could see Jones taking another step. He's definitely been in their plans when in the redzone. I could see him ending up with about 850 yards and 9 td's this year which would make him a bargain in drafts.Rodgers wanted to keep him pretty bad.

And I could see him as President of the United States. With just about the same odds of achieving either

I didn't even know he had aspirations to go into politics. Good for him.The yards aren't that much of a stretch at all. He's jumped about 200 yards in production per season over the last 3. His targets have gone up. His targets in the redzone tells me he'll get looks. 9 td's may be optomistic but I don't think that's all that far fetched if Driver is fazed out more and Jones is the #2 WR. Much crazier things have happened.The point is he has upside and can be had in the 13th round. Tell me how many WR's you can find that kind of upside in the 13th round?

Lance Moore

 

[scrumptrulescent]

After just quickly scanning the target and redzone statistics from the past 3 years, I could see Jones taking another step. He's definitely been in their plans when in the redzone. I could see him ending up with about 850 yards and 9 td's this year which would make him a bargain in drafts.

Rodgers wanted to keep him pretty bad.

Always good to cherry pick the numbers - cause if you back 4 years you see that his performance dropped way off in years 2 and 3, only to rebound when JFin was hurt. In fact, Year 4 was virtually identical to year 1.Better analysis is that if JFin is playing, WR like Jones are going to take a hit in performance, because a real star like JFin is going to get the looks, not them.

4 years ago Brett Favre was the quarterback, not Aaron Rodgers. I cherry picked the numbers for a reason. 2009 was Finley's big coming out, so to speak. He received 17 redzone targets. Jennings had 11. Driver had 12. And Jones had 11. For the first 4 weeks of 2010, when Finley was healthy, Jones had 4 redzone targets (all in one game), Jennings had 3, Driver 3, J Nelson 2, and Finley 2.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

After just quickly scanning the target and redzone statistics from the past 3 years, I could see Jones taking another step. He's definitely been in their plans when in the redzone. I could see him ending up with about 850 yards and 9 td's this year which would make him a bargain in drafts.Rodgers wanted to keep him pretty bad.

And I could see him as President of the United States. With just about the same odds of achieving either

I didn't even know he had aspirations to go into politics. Good for him.The yards aren't that much of a stretch at all. He's jumped about 200 yards in production per season over the last 3. His targets have gone up. His targets in the redzone tells me he'll get looks. 9 td's may be optomistic but I don't think that's all that far fetched if Driver is fazed out more and Jones is the #2 WR. Much crazier things have happened.The point is he has upside and can be had in the 13th round. Tell me how many WR's you can find that kind of upside in the 13th round?

Lance Moore

So far we have 2.....Lance Moore and James Jones.

 

[Local303]

So is this depth chart holding true for the start of the season ?

Wide Receiver 1

Greg Jennings

Jordy Nelson

Randall Cobb

Diondre Borel

Wide Receiver 2

Donald Driver

James Jones

Chastin West

Tori Gurley

Tight End

Jermichael Finley

Andrew Quarless

 

[Riflemen]

It's only one game but how did last night change peoples perspectives of the GB Wr's? Jennings looked locked in. He was catching everything thrown his way but I believe his targets this year just have to go down by 2 or 3 a game due to all the options Rodgers has.

 

[todisco1]

It's only one game but how did last night change peoples perspectives of the GB Wr's? Jennings looked locked in. He was catching everything thrown his way but I believe his targets this year just have to go down by 2 or 3 a game due to all the options Rodgers has.

Jennings will be fine - he looks amazing, he'll get plenty of targets - maybe his TDs won't be as high but I think he's a lock for 1200 yds or so. Jordy Nelson is impressive as well, and he's the guy that should be able to exploit single coverage all season.

 

[Sabertooth]

It's only one game but how did last night change peoples perspectives of the GB Wr's? Jennings looked locked in. He was catching everything thrown his way but I believe his targets this year just have to go down by 2 or 3 a game due to all the options Rodgers has.

Jennings will be fine - he looks amazing, he'll get plenty of targets - maybe his TDs won't be as high but I think he's a lock for 1200 yds or so. Jordy Nelson is impressive as well, and he's the guy that should be able to exploit single coverage all season.

And he's got the chops to do it. He's really developed from a good football player into a very good receiver.

 

[Dreamer]

It's only one game but how did last night change peoples perspectives of the GB Wr's? Jennings looked locked in. He was catching everything thrown his way but I believe his targets this year just have to go down by 2 or 3 a game due to all the options Rodgers has.

Jennings will be fine - he looks amazing, he'll get plenty of targets - maybe his TDs won't be as high but I think he's a lock for 1200 yds or so. Jordy Nelson is impressive as well, and he's the guy that should be able to exploit single coverage all season.

And he's got the chops to do it. He's really developed from a good football player into a very good receiver.

Jordy Nelson is going to be open all year long.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

It's only one game but how did last night change peoples perspectives of the GB Wr's? Jennings looked locked in. He was catching everything thrown his way but I believe his targets this year just have to go down by 2 or 3 a game due to all the options Rodgers has.

my Jennings - still #1Nelson - He wow'ed me, great routes and good hands. Looks like he's locked into the starting lineup for awhile.Finley - healthy again, picked up right where he left off before the injury. He is going to give DB's nightmares. Poor Harper couldn't keep up with him.Driver - Still a factor. A couple of his catches were amazing, it looked like he had glue on his gloves.Jones - For now it is what I expected, with Driver still going strong and Finley back in the line up, it's hard to be optimistic about Jones. I still see dynasty value here, but it's not gonna be pretty fantasy-wise in the near term.Cobb - fast, had a great run back last night for a TD where he did a barrel roll over back of a defender and landed on his feet. probably not a factor in the passing game in 2011 but will be exciting to watch on kick returns.Overall I see Jennings and Nelson with the biggest upside in fantasy with Driver the consistent 600-800 yards guy for the year. Finley could be right there too both of these guys (Driver and Finley) hot reads in the red zone.