Patriots being investigated after Colts game (2 Viewers)

[ROCKET]

"The weight difference in 2PSI is less than that of a dollar bill, and the difference in compression is 1 milimeter."

Amazing how much ball security you gain from that 1 mm of grip

 

[12punch]

I hope it comes out he let a pound of air out after they win the superbowl just to send the salty haters into an apoplectic fury

To prove that the whole tenure of BB has been clouded with cheating?

Wouldn't you rather it be disproven and win?

Does it ####### matter at all if its disproved?We all know how this ends, innocent or guilty. The Pats will continue to be the villains for he next decade.

And when Brady finally calls it quits he will usher in the second coming with his eight ringed hand. I am become Goatroppolo, destroyer of worlds.

Even if the NFL says the Patriots are innocent, the Salty Haters will say this is proof of a "culture of cheating" because Goodell swept it under the rug for Kraft.

The NFL said the Patriots formations were all legal vs. Baltimore, but Salty Haters still say the Patriots used illegal formations.

The NFL said the Tuck Rule was ruled correctly, but Salty Haters still cite it as another "Patriots scandal".

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-england-patriots-scandals-from-spies-to-snowplows/

Does anyone really call tuck rule a scandal, that would be stupid.

pats hating trolls are not exactly known for being cerebral

I believe they've labeled anyone who owns a car with low tires as a 'scientist'

 

[the moops]

http://www.hawkridgesys.com/blog/simulationdeflate-gate-2015-tom-bradys-case-solidworks-flow-simulation/

 

[12punch]

What about the Colts alerting the NFL that the Pats balls were underinflated from their game earlier in the year? In that game the weather couldn't be an excuse for the dropped psi. I'd still wager that this will not end well for the Pats.

I think the question of the mystery axe grinder is about the only interesting point in all of this.

colts picked off 1 or 2 balls in that game, I think, and the guy who picked them kept them.

they would've passed through the hands of an equipment mgr and were accessible to coaches during the game.

if they noticed something at the time that actually gave the pats an advantage why wouldn't they speak up about it right then?

did you see harbaugh in that playoff game?

did he wait 'til next year to tell the league to keep an out out for tricky formations?

well?

 

[Run It Up]

http://www.hawkridgesys.com/blog/simulationdeflate-gate-2015-tom-bradys-case-solidworks-flow-simulation/

Posted last page, no one cares about science.

 

[12punch]

http://www.hawkridgesys.com/blog/simulationdeflate-gate-2015-tom-bradys-case-solidworks-flow-simulation/

Posted last page, no one cares about science.

witches are where it's at

also, voodoo in a pinch -- but not for every day

 

[mbuehner]

http://www.hawkridgesys.com/blog/simulationdeflate-gate-2015-tom-bradys-case-solidworks-flow-simulation/

Posted last page, no one cares about science.

witches are where it's at

also, voodoo in a pinch -- but not for every day

Serpent and the Rainbow bro, you dont wanna mess with Pappa Legba.

 

[Godsbrother]

When you guys start acting smart and running your own calculations, I hope you realize how meaningless it is. If any of you think the refs accurately measure these balls down to the tenths of a decimal point....

Agreed, I have been arguing for days that there is no way the reefs were adequately measuring psi or any of the other required specs (length, weight, long circumference, short circumference, etc) for 24 footballs...ain't happening

It's funny how this has come full circle. I proposed this theory as well last week and I was excoriated for it.

This whole thread has come full circle more than once my friend...and that is both funny and sad (and occasionally infuriating, but I can't keep away from a debate in which I am 100% certain I am right and 90% certain I will be proven to be right -I am saving the other 10% for inconclusive evidence)

Despite all the Salty Haters who complain about the Patriots, I don't think anyone will care in about 20 years about Spygate or Deflategate.

Brady and Belichek are slam-dunk Hall of Famers. Nothing will change that.

The Steelers of the 70s openly admitted to using PEDs, and no one cares. Everyone seems to still love them.

The difference was that PEDS were neither illegal nor banned by the NFL in the 70s and had been in use by others n the league since the early 60s

 

[The Kerminator]

Seems like this thread is slowing down.

Is it possible to deflate 11 footballs in 90 seconds spent in a bathroom?

http://nydn.us/1uyQfWA

 

[12punch]

Seems like this thread is slowing down.

Is it possible to deflate 11 footballs in 90 seconds spent in a bathroom?

http://nydn.us/1uyQfWA

I think the question would then be why is he racing to get it done in 90 seconds, and do they bring him along everywhere, knock out the resident ball boy, and sneak this guy in with a rubber mask --- after learning the resident ball boy's entire history, of course, in case of questioning?

looking fwd to the follow up vid of what else can be done in a bathroom in 90 seconds

 

[12punch]

The difference was that PEDS were neither illegal nor banned by the NFL in the 70s and had been in use by others n the league since the early 60s

yeah, you guys were lining up and beating everybody like men -- those juicers weren't any kind of unfair competitive advantage

people really just take that stuff to be edgy

I can't figure out how the pats manage without that stuff --- oh yeah, that pound of air

 

[Devine Intervention]

Pats fans. Make a choice. Either it didn't happen and you're innocent. Or it did and it doesn't matter cause everyone cheats.

Youre missing the point. If the steelers were all on juice, it wasn't against the rules so they didn't break them.

As stupid as the rule is, if you break it you are wrong. If the pats are found guilty then they willingly broke a rule.

 

[The Kerminator]

Seems like this thread is slowing down.

Is it possible to deflate 11 footballs in 90 seconds spent in a bathroom?

http://nydn.us/1uyQfWA

I think the question would then be why is he racing to get it done in 90 seconds, and do they bring him along everywhere, knock out the resident ball boy, and sneak this guy in with a rubber mask --- after learning the resident ball boy's entire history, of course, in case of questioning?

looking fwd to the follow up vid of what else can be done in a bathroom in 90 seconds

Um, just a guess, because he had to get on the field in a hurry so not to cause any suspicion of wrong doing?

 

[12punch]

Seems like this thread is slowing down.

Is it possible to deflate 11 footballs in 90 seconds spent in a bathroom?

http://nydn.us/1uyQfWA

I think the question would then be why is he racing to get it done in 90 seconds, and do they bring him along everywhere, knock out the resident ball boy, and sneak this guy in with a rubber mask --- after learning the resident ball boy's entire history, of course, in case of questioning?

looking fwd to the follow up vid of what else can be done in a bathroom in 90 seconds

Um, just a guess, because he had to get on the field in a hurry so not to cause any suspicion of wrong doing?

like using the bathroom?

do they time these guys from ref to field with a stopwatch?

 

[12punch]

Pats fans. Make a choice. Either it didn't happen and you're innocent. Or it did and it doesn't matter cause everyone cheats.

Youre missing the point. If the steelers were all on juice, it wasn't against the rules so they didn't break them.

As stupid as the rule is, if you break it you are wrong. If the pats are found guilty then they willingly broke a rule.

glad to see you got your priorities straight

 

[12punch]

IT DOESN'T TAKE 2 MINUTES TO TAKE A WHIZ --- SOMEBODY GAUGE THESE FOOTBALLS!!!!!!

 

[Morton Muffley]

Seems like this thread is slowing down.

Is it possible to deflate 11 footballs in 90 seconds spent in a bathroom?

http://nydn.us/1uyQfWA

Of course it is possible to deflate some balls to an in exact pressure in 90 seconds but given how erratic he was do you really think every one of those balls was exactly eleven?

What if I could prove that those eleven balls ranged from 9 to 13psi...because in his haste he deflated one ball twice and another not all...great experiment. And why does the clock stop and start when he done with the balls rather than exiting? And why would he be hurrying? And since temp will reduce them one psi (fact) he needs to be quicker getting that needle in and out...did you see him struggle. And if the patriot ball boy is so adept at this from years of practice what does he do for away games when the opponent's ball boy brings them to the field? Shall I go on and on and on?

 

[HellToupee]

This thread has made me embarrassed to be a card carrying Patriots hater

 

[moleculo]

http://www.hawkridgesys.com/blog/simulationdeflate-gate-2015-tom-bradys-case-solidworks-flow-simulation/

Posted last page, no one cares about science.

I care about science. But, in this case, it's a clear matter of GIGO. The author goes into detail regarding the warming from the rubbing process, which is totally believable, but he assumes the balls are pressure-checked immediately afterwards.

That simply doesn't stand to reason. There is no way the Patriots complete the process of rubbing 24 balls immediately before turning them over to the refs for inspection. Why would you wait until the literal last minute to prepare the balls for the biggest game of the season?

I agree completely with the conclusions up until the "But wait, there’s more" line. Had they quit when they said that they can account for a 1.05 PSI pressure loss, I am good. When they go into detail about how the balls were actually warmer when initially checked - they are abandoning logic.

 

[12punch]

Seems like this thread is slowing down.

Is it possible to deflate 11 footballs in 90 seconds spent in a bathroom?

http://nydn.us/1uyQfWA

Of course it is possible to deflate some balls to an in exact pressure in 90 seconds but given how erratic he was do you really think every one of those balls was exactly eleven?

What if I could prove that those eleven balls ranged from 9 to 13psi...because in his haste he deflated one ball twice and another not all...great experiment. And why does the clock stop and start when he done with the balls rather than exiting? And why would he be hurrying? And since temp will reduce them one psi (fact) he needs to be quicker getting that needle in and out...did you see him struggle. And if the patriot ball boy is so adept at this from years of practice what does he do for away games when the opponent's ball boy brings them to the field? Shall I go on and on and on?

I think you're grossly underestimating belichick's ability to infiltrate the league with his legion of ballboys

 

[moleculo]

Seems like this thread is slowing down.

Is it possible to deflate 11 footballs in 90 seconds spent in a bathroom?

http://nydn.us/1uyQfWA

Of course it is possible to deflate some balls to an in exact pressure in 90 seconds but given how erratic he was do you really think every one of those balls was exactly eleven?

What if I could prove that those eleven balls ranged from 9 to 13psi...because in his haste he deflated one ball twice and another not all...great experiment. And why does the clock stop and start when he done with the balls rather than exiting? And why would he be hurrying? And since temp will reduce them one psi (fact) he needs to be quicker getting that needle in and out...did you see him struggle. And if the patriot ball boy is so adept at this from years of practice what does he do for away games when the opponent's ball boy brings them to the field? Shall I go on and on and on?

I mentioned before - I could easily make a device that could deflate a football down to a fixed pressure. It would cost less than $20, and would take about as much time to do as shown in the video.

Here's how: simply attach this to this.

 

[12punch]

http://www.hawkridgesys.com/blog/simulationdeflate-gate-2015-tom-bradys-case-solidworks-flow-simulation/

Posted last page, no one cares about science.

I care about science. But, in this case, it's a clear matter of GIGO. The author goes into detail regarding the warming from the rubbing process, which is totally believable, but he assumes the balls are pressure-checked immediately afterwards.

That simply doesn't stand to reason. There is no way the Patriots complete the process of rubbing 24 balls immediately before turning them over to the refs for inspection. Why would you wait until the literal last minute to prepare the balls for the biggest game of the season?

I agree completely with the conclusions up until the "But wait, there’s more" line. Had they quit when they said that they can account for a 1.05 PSI pressure loss, I am good. When they go into detail about how the balls were actually warmer when initially checked - they are abandoning logic.

I see

so, all the imaginary stuff that's going on in your mexican soap opera isn't making sense to you -- at least not sense to 2 decimal places.

maybe suck down a bottle of nyquil and watch a superfriends ep and things will fall into place.

 

[moleculo]

http://www.hawkridgesys.com/blog/simulationdeflate-gate-2015-tom-bradys-case-solidworks-flow-simulation/

Posted last page, no one cares about science.

I care about science. But, in this case, it's a clear matter of GIGO. The author goes into detail regarding the warming from the rubbing process, which is totally believable, but he assumes the balls are pressure-checked immediately afterwards.

That simply doesn't stand to reason. There is no way the Patriots complete the process of rubbing 24 balls immediately before turning them over to the refs for inspection. Why would you wait until the literal last minute to prepare the balls for the biggest game of the season?

I agree completely with the conclusions up until the "But wait, there’s more" line. Had they quit when they said that they can account for a 1.05 PSI pressure loss, I am good. When they go into detail about how the balls were actually warmer when initially checked - they are abandoning logic.

I see

so, all the imaginary stuff that's going on in your mexican soap opera isn't making sense to you -- at least not sense to 2 decimal places.

maybe suck down a bottle of nyquil and watch a superfriends ep and things will fall into place.

or, I can just stick my fingers in my ear and yell "LA LA LA LA LA" until it all stops. either way.

 

[mbuehner]

This thread has made me embarrassed to be a card carrying Patriots hater

Best quote of the thread. Well said.

 

[Devine Intervention]

This thread is actually filled with mostly pats lovers trying to push science and rare circumstance of balls being heated seconds before pressure check. Pats haters just like stirring the pot and watching all these pats fans go crazy.

 

[mbuehner]

http://www.hawkridgesys.com/blog/simulationdeflate-gate-2015-tom-bradys-case-solidworks-flow-simulation/

Posted last page, no one cares about science.

I care about science. But, in this case, it's a clear matter of GIGO. The author goes into detail regarding the warming from the rubbing process, which is totally believable, but he assumes the balls are pressure-checked immediately afterwards.That simply doesn't stand to reason. There is no way the Patriots complete the process of rubbing 24 balls immediately before turning them over to the refs for inspection. Why would you wait until the literal last minute to prepare the balls for the biggest game of the season?

I agree completely with the conclusions up until the "But wait, theres more" line. Had they quit when they said that they can account for a 1.05 PSI pressure loss, I am good. When they go into detail about how the balls were actually warmer when initially checked - they are abandoning logic.

This was exactly my reaction. Trying to account for every rumored decimal point was a mistake. It blurred a very succinct argument. The temp DOES, not can, DOES account for at least 1psi. The rain and any other factors potentially account for more. But regardless, if the allegation is the Pats leaked less than 1psi out of 12 balls, its become a farce in and of itself. The ball prep stuff guilded the lilly. Although in his defense BB didnt know what the allegation would ultimately be, or that it apparently would end up closer to 1psi for all but the Colts ball.

 

[12punch]

This thread is actually filled with mostly pats lovers trying to push science and rare circumstance of balls being heated seconds before pressure check. Pats haters just like stirring the pot and watching all these pats fans go crazy.

MOTHER####ERS!!

well, at least you guys are owning up to your salty troll monikers

 

[mbuehner]

This thread is actually filled with mostly pats lovers trying to push science and rare circumstance of balls being heated seconds before pressure check. Pats haters just like stirring the pot and watching all these pats fans go crazy.

Right, damned long proven laws of physics and reproduceable experimental data. Haters.

 

[Morton Muffley]

http://www.hawkridgesys.com/blog/simulationdeflate-gate-2015-tom-bradys-case-solidworks-flow-simulation/

Posted last page, no one cares about science.

I care about science. But, in this case, it's a clear matter of GIGO. The author goes into detail regarding the warming from the rubbing process, which is totally believable, but he assumes the balls are pressure-checked immediately afterwards.That simply doesn't stand to reason. There is no way the Patriots complete the process of rubbing 24 balls immediately before turning them over to the refs for inspection. Why would you wait until the literal last minute to prepare the balls for the biggest game of the season?

I agree completely with the conclusions up until the "But wait, there’s more" line. Had they quit when they said that they can account for a 1.05 PSI pressure loss, I am good. When they go into detail about how the balls were actually warmer when initially checked - they are abandoning logic.

Molecule, you've shown yourself to be fairly reasonable about this topic, but you've asked this question several times now and I have answered it at least twice for you. So why do you keep ignoring my and BB's contention that it is quite likely that the patriots pressure tested the balls at the higher equilibrium state and thus turned in football that were unintentionally below spec because they had returned to room temp by the time they were turned in for pre game inspection.

Why is that possibility so difficult to grasp?

 

[Devine Intervention]

Yes exactly. Trying to push science. No one knows how the tests were done or how the balls were treated. But yet these pats fans are coming up with these invented scenarios of how it is plausible that they didn't cheat. All of this science based off of methods they have zero evidence actually happened.

 

[mbuehner]

Yes exactly. Trying to push science. No one knows how the tests were done or how the balls were treated. But yet these pats fans are coming up with these invented scenarios of how it is plausible that they didn't cheat. All of this science based off of methods they have zero evidence actually happened.

Chief, go buy a football, measure it at 70d, put it in the fridge til its 50d, measure it again. If it doesnt fall in pressure, youll win a Nobel Prize.

 

[12punch]

Yes exactly. Trying to push science. No one knows how the tests were done or how the balls were treated. But yet these pats fans are coming up with these invented scenarios of how it is plausible that they didn't cheat. All of this science based off of methods they have zero evidence actually happened.

I think some of the science is based on work people did 200 years ago --- maybe read a newspaper once in a while

 

[Devine Intervention]

Maybe all 11 of the under deflated balls had leaks in the threading of the football.

You can use science to break down that it is indeed possible for a football to lose pressure through faulty threads! You can also run tests of how balls are made and how seems could be faulty.

Maybe even show the number of faulty seemed balls per thousand and tell us that there is a .0006 percent chance that 11 of the balls were faulty. It's possible!

Hell this might be it!

It's backed with science and tests and a slim probability so maybe this is the case.

 

[espnespn]

Pats fans. Make a choice. Either it didn't happen and you're innocent. Or it did and it doesn't matter cause everyone cheats.

Youre missing the point. If the steelers were all on juice, it wasn't against the rules so they didn't break them.

As stupid as the rule is, if you break it you are wrong. If the pats are found guilty then they willingly broke a rule.

Just to double-check: you say that PEDs "wasn't against the rules so they didn't break them"?

Where do the rules specifically say deflation is not allowed? The rules say the balls must be 12.5 - 13.5 PSI when tested by the refs. And Patriots balls passed inspection by refs.

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/5_2013_Ball.pdf

But nothing in the rules say what happens after ref testing. So if we follow your "logic", and say the rules never specifically banned PEDs in the 70s, the rules also don't specifically ban deflation after the refs measure the balls.

Conclusion: deflation after the ref check wasn't against the rules so they didn't break them.

 

[mbuehner]

Maybe all 11 of the under deflated balls had leaks in the threading of the football.

You can use science to break down that it is indeed possible for a football to lose pressure through faulty threads! You can also run tests of how balls are made and how seems could be faulty.

Maybe even show the number of faulty seemed balls per thousand and tell us that there is a .0006 percent chance that 11 of the balls were faulty. It's possible!

Hell this might be it!

It's backed with science and tests and a slim probability so maybe this is the case.

Every football on earth will lose pressure when its temperature drops you salt headed moron.

 

[Devine Intervention]

If it really is THAT simple, that the temp change made the balls lose the psi then the colts balls would have dropped as well. Then the league would have notice and closed the case.

It CLEARLY wasn't the case. So maybe the pats doctored their balls differently or stored them or tested them first. Who knows. But your trying to use science to prove methods that you have no proof existed.

 

[12punch]

Maybe all 11 of the under deflated balls had leaks in the threading of the football.

You can use science to break down that it is indeed possible for a football to lose pressure through faulty threads! You can also run tests of how balls are made and how seems could be faulty.

Maybe even show the number of faulty seemed balls per thousand and tell us that there is a .0006 percent chance that 11 of the balls were faulty. It's possible!

Hell this might be it!

It's backed with science and tests and a slim probability so maybe this is the case.

now it's cheating to under deflate the balls?

 

[espnespn]

Yes exactly. Trying to push science. No one knows how the tests were done or how the balls were treated. But yet these pats fans are coming up with these invented scenarios of how it is plausible that they didn't cheat. All of this science based off of methods they have zero evidence actually happened.

The science is real. If you don't believe what your eyes see in this HeadSmart video, that's your problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxsXFX3tDpg

 

[12punch]

Maybe all 11 of the under deflated balls had leaks in the threading of the football.

You can use science to break down that it is indeed possible for a football to lose pressure through faulty threads! You can also run tests of how balls are made and how seems could be faulty.

Maybe even show the number of faulty seemed balls per thousand and tell us that there is a .0006 percent chance that 11 of the balls were faulty. It's possible!

Hell this might be it!

It's backed with science and tests and a slim probability so maybe this is the case.

well, that would certainly be a theory, I guess --- I think the supposition that an atmosphere exists is probably somewhat more likely, but I wasn't there.

 

[Devine Intervention]

You know someone is wrong when their only response is to point out grammatical errors and ignore the actual point made.

 

[12punch]

Pats fans. Make a choice. Either it didn't happen and you're innocent. Or it did and it doesn't matter cause everyone cheats.

Youre missing the point. If the steelers were all on juice, it wasn't against the rules so they didn't break them.

As stupid as the rule is, if you break it you are wrong. If the pats are found guilty then they willingly broke a rule.

Just to double-check: you say that PEDs "wasn't against the rules so they didn't break them"?

Where do the rules specifically say deflation is not allowed? The rules say the balls must be 12.5 - 13.5 PSI when tested by the refs. And Patriots balls passed inspection by refs.

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/5_2013_Ball.pdf

But nothing in the rules say what happens after ref testing. So if we follow your "logic", and say the rules never specifically banned PEDs in the 70s, the rules also don't specifically ban deflation after the refs measure the balls.

Conclusion: deflation after the ref check wasn't against the rules so they didn't break them.

I like this new angle

 

[mbuehner]

If it really is THAT simple, that the temp change made the balls lose the psi then the colts balls would have dropped as well. Then the league would have notice and closed the case.

It CLEARLY wasn't the case. So maybe the pats doctored their balls differently or stored them or tested them first. Who knows. But your trying to use science to prove methods that you have no proof existed.

If the Colts balls defied the ideal gas law, youll win another Nobel Prize!So lets speed that process, just kindly link to the psi of the Colts balls pregame and at halftime, as well as the temperature they were stored at. Youre gonna be a superstar man!

 

[Morton Muffley]

If it really is THAT simple, that the temp change made the balls lose the psi then the colts balls would have dropped as well. Then the league would have notice and closed the case.

It CLEARLY wasn't the case. So maybe the pats doctored their balls differently or stored them or tested them first. Who knows. But your trying to use science to prove methods that you have no proof existed.

Thx...yes it's been nearly 20 posts since someone brought up the colts magic balls....do these balls also defy gravity...seriously, there is a Nobel prize awaiting you if you can show how a ball that changes temp does NOT lose pressure. $1million awaits so get on it!!!

 

[12punch]

You know someone is wrong when their only response is to point out grammatical errors and ignore the actual point made.

what actual point?

you just admitted a half dozen posts ago that you salty haters are just salty trolling the board for reactions

that was my reaction

 

[Tenacious]

If it really is THAT simple, that the temp change made the balls lose the psi then the colts balls would have dropped as well. Then the league would have notice and closed the case.

It CLEARLY wasn't the case. So maybe the pats doctored their balls differently or stored them or tested them first. Who knows. But your trying to use science to prove methods that you have no proof existed.

How many times does it need to be repeated? We have no idea what the pressure of the Colts balls were, before the game or at half time. That information, if it is even known, has not been made public.

Try reading a little more before posting your ignorance next time.

 

[Tenacious]

If it really is THAT simple, that the temp change made the balls lose the psi then the colts balls would have dropped as well. Then the league would have notice and closed the case.

It CLEARLY wasn't the case. So maybe the pats doctored their balls differently or stored them or tested them first. Who knows. But your trying to use science to prove methods that you have no proof existed.

Thx...yes it's been nearly 20 posts since someone brought up the colts magic balls....do these balls also defy gravity...seriously, there is a Nobel prize awaiting you if you can show how a ball that changes temp does NOT lose pressure. $1million awaits so get on it!!!

Exactly,

It seems that Devine Intervention knows for a fact that the Colts balls didn't deflate, he knows this because he knows what the PSI was before the game and what it was later, when tested. Show us the data you have on the Colts balls since you seem to know something we don't know, Devine. (Hint, that info hasn't been made public, if it even exists).

 

[Tenacious]

You know someone is wrong when their only response is to point out grammatical errors and ignore the actual point made.

The "actual point made" isn't even worth refuting. If you would actually read before posting your ignorance, you'd know that it was refuted thoroughly days ago.

 

[Morton Muffley]

If it really is THAT simple, that the temp change made the balls lose the psi then the colts balls would have dropped as well. Then the league would have notice and closed the case.

It CLEARLY wasn't the case. So maybe the pats doctored their balls differently or stored them or tested them first. Who knows. But your trying to use science to prove methods that you have no proof existed.

Thx...yes it's been nearly 20 posts since someone brought up the colts magic balls....do these balls also defy gravity...seriously, there is a Nobel prize awaiting you if you can show how a ball that changes temp does NOT lose pressure. $1million awaits so get on it!!!

Hey Genius,

So you know for a fact that the Colts balls didn't deflate, you know this because you know what the PSI was before the game and what it was later, when tested? Show us the data you have on the Colts balls since you seem to know something we don't know. (Hint, that info hasn't been made public, if it even exists).

Hey super genius

My point was that it doesn't $&@ing matter what did or didn't happen to the colts balls. It is a useless comparison precisely because we don't have any of the info necessary as you rightly state. Thx for proving my point even while missing it entirely!

 

[Tenacious]

Seems like this thread is slowing down.

Is it possible to deflate 11 footballs in 90 seconds spent in a bathroom?

http://nydn.us/1uyQfWA

Of course it is possible to deflate some balls to an in exact pressure in 90 seconds but given how erratic he was do you really think every one of those balls was exactly eleven?

What if I could prove that those eleven balls ranged from 9 to 13psi...because in his haste he deflated one ball twice and another not all...great experiment. And why does the clock stop and start when he done with the balls rather than exiting? And why would he be hurrying? And since temp will reduce them one psi (fact) he needs to be quicker getting that needle in and out...did you see him struggle. And if the patriot ball boy is so adept at this from years of practice what does he do for away games when the opponent's ball boy brings them to the field? Shall I go on and on and on?

Exactly. Well said.

 

[Tenacious]

If it really is THAT simple, that the temp change made the balls lose the psi then the colts balls would have dropped as well. Then the league would have notice and closed the case.

It CLEARLY wasn't the case. So maybe the pats doctored their balls differently or stored them or tested them first. Who knows. But your trying to use science to prove methods that you have no proof existed.

Thx...yes it's been nearly 20 posts since someone brought up the colts magic balls....do these balls also defy gravity...seriously, there is a Nobel prize awaiting you if you can show how a ball that changes temp does NOT lose pressure. $1million awaits so get on it!!!

Hey Genius,

So you know for a fact that the Colts balls didn't deflate, you know this because you know what the PSI was before the game and what it was later, when tested? Show us the data you have on the Colts balls since you seem to know something we don't know. (Hint, that info hasn't been made public, if it even exists).

Hey super genius

My point was that it doesn't $&@ing matter what did or didn't happen to the colts balls. It is a useless comparison precisely because we don't have any of the info necessary as you rightly state. Thx for proving my point even while missing it entirely!

I misread your post.

We are in agreement....(edited above).