Patriots being investigated after Colts game (1 Viewer)

[Tool]

In my opinion, I think this allegation is a little far fetched. But there are to many unanswered questions about spygate. So people have a hard time letting this go.

I think the hate comes not only from what has happened, but from the arrogance that starts with Belicheat and trickles down through the team especially from Brady through most of the team. I have never seen so much disregard for treating and making fun of other human beings.

Huh?

 

[KarmaPolice]

http://deadspin.com/reports-dqwell-jacksons-int-triggered-deflated-ball-in-1680569440?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Lol. This is such a joke of an accusation. So an LB who touches the ball once notices it, yet the refs who touch both teams balls all game don't notice it? Stay classy Colts.

Yeah, I still don't get this, but maybe I haven't read something. Sure the teams submit the balls, but at that point aren't the balls in the refs hands for inspection and distribution? When would the Pats supposedly have time to deflate this? People are talking like Brady himself is tucked behind the bench on the sidelines sucking air out of the ball so he can have a better game.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Why are the patriots always involved in controversies like this? Seems a little fishy to me.

Because people are consistently jealous of their success and grasp at any little detail to try and discredit them. It pretty much boils down to "They hate us cause they ain't us"

Yeah, this is one of the worst things to happen from spygate. The team pushes the envelope, so that combined with them getting punished a decade ago (without incident of a similar thing since) and being a highly successful team has just put everybody on high alert for even the slightest little think to cry foul on. Most of the whining seems to come from the teams that they beat consistently - Colts, Steelers, etc..

 

[BustedKnuckles]

 

[Godsbrother]

The media WANTS this to be a story. They pump it up over and over trying to get people to tune in.

Sad that the "investigation" will take several weeks / months to conclude only for the NFL to tell us "nothing to see here".

Maybe they should spend more time investigating why two refs refused to throw a flag when the Colts DB grabbed and held facemask as Edelman turns to catch a pass.

Ridiculous that it would take this long. How long does it take to measure the air pressure in a football?

I agree that nothing will come out of this cause even if the Pats were guilty of deflating footballs the NFL isn't going to admit to the public that one of it's premier teams is cheating.

We'll probably never know for sure but does anyone really think the reason the Colts got blown out was because of a few deflated footballs?

 

[ratbast]

There is a system of checks and balances on this very issue of wrongly deflated balls. I bet a ball comes into question often and for a variety of reasons. Balls probably get taken out of games all the time. Wasn't it "reported" that it might have been an indy ball? Wouldn't that mean they might actually be responsible? Were any balls in question in the NFC title game? Were any balls questioned in the previous week's games?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Ridiculous that it would take this long. How long does it take to measure the air pressure in a football?

To be fair, if the football they check is deflated they would still need to investigate whether the Patriot staff/players had anything to do with it. It is possible that some other factor (weather, defect) was involved.

 

[Dezbelief]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/deflategate-started-with-colts-interception/ar-AA8ncCo?ocid=TSHDHP

WCVB-TV reports that suspicions first arose when Indianapolis linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass early in the second quarter of the game. Jackson noticed the ball felt deflated and mentioned something to the team’s equipment manager, who brought up the subject to Colts head coach Chuck Pagano. Pagano told the team’s GM Ryan Grigson, who called the league.

League officials called and spoke with the game’s referees during halftime about the issue, leading the referees to change the balls on the field.

WCVB cautions that referees changing balls is common and that balls can deflate for a number of reasons.

Sources told Lynch that several footballs were taken out of play during the game Sunday night, but that’s not unusual and there have been times in previous games that officials have changed footballs during play due to factors such as air temperature changed that cause the ball to over or under inflate.

 

[JohnnyU]

It's no more cheating than anything else that goes on in sports.....acting like you made a catch when you know you didn't (happens in baseball too), flopping to get a foul or penalty, greasing or scuffing the ball in baseball, holding could probably get called on someone on every single play in football, PED's (you only hear about the one's who get caught), riding the officials in any sport to try and get one to go your way later, and a million other things. Everyone looks the other way about all that #### and this is so insignificant it's ridiculous. Even if they did both teams play with the same balls.

No, both teams do not play with the same balls. Each team has 12 of their own balls submitted 2hrs before game time.

What difference does it make? Regardless of where they come from they are tested pre-game, and also, balls that are deemed 'irregular' during the game are removed . The point is that each team doesn't use just their own balls on offense. . If an 'irregular' ball was in play there is no way it could be advantageous to just one team.

Wrong, they do.

 

[thatguy]

After reading the blurb just posted, pretty obvious this is much ado about nothing.

 

[Banger]

I'm not a Pat's fan at all but this is whole "deflation gate" is ridiculous. The Pats ran the ball down their throat and Luck threw for 126 yards and 2 ints. Did the deflated balls magically make the Pats defense completely dominate the Indy offense and enable the Pats to run the ball at will, LIKE THEY HAVE EVERY TIME THEY'VE PLAYED? Indy knew what was coming and still couldn't stop it and got crushed on both sides of the ball. The game wasn't even as close as the score...they could've scored 60 points if they wanted to.

This is just a whiney Pat haters thread which I'm all for if there's a call for it but in this case it's just sour grapes.

 

[Workhorse]

Jim Daopoulos @RefereeJimD · 9h 9 hours ago

@dodgerdixon @adamfish I feel the whole deflated ball situation is a non-issue that will be put to rest soon

Jim Daopoulos @RefereeJimD · 9h 9 hours ago

@airsal53 don't believe it was. Feel this is a lot about nothing. Officials checked all footballs and they were approved for game use

 

[thatguy]

I'm not a Pat's fan at all but this is whole "deflation gate" is ridiculous. The Pats ran the ball down their throat and Luck threw for 126 yards and 2 ints. Did the deflated balls magically make the Pats defense completely dominate the Indy offense and enable the Pats to run the ball at will, LIKE THEY HAVE EVERY TIME THEY'VE PLAYED? Indy knew what was coming and still couldn't stop it and got crushed on both sides of the ball. The game wasn't even as close as the score...they could've scored 60 points if they wanted to.

This is just a whiney Pat haters thread which I'm all for if there's a call for it but in this case it's just sour grapes.

Also, from the sound of things, the balls were monitored very carefully the entire second half after Indy complained. Score during that timeframe: 28-0.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/deflategate-started-with-colts-interception/ar-AA8ncCo?ocid=TSHDHP

WCVB-TV reports that suspicions first arose when Indianapolis linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass early in the second quarter of the game. Jackson noticed the ball felt deflated and mentioned something to the team’s equipment manager, who brought up the subject to Colts head coach Chuck Pagano. Pagano told the team’s GM Ryan Grigson, who called the league.

League officials called and spoke with the game’s referees during halftime about the issue, leading the referees to change the balls on the field.

WCVB cautions that referees changing balls is common and that balls can deflate for a number of reasons.

Sources told Lynch that several footballs were taken out of play during the game Sunday night, but that’s not unusual and there have been times in previous games that officials have changed footballs during play due to factors such as air temperature changed that cause the ball to over or under inflate.

I was wondering how he was able to pick off that ball.

that pick and the resulting td should be erased from the books

 

[devouredbychaos]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/deflategate-started-with-colts-interception/ar-AA8ncCo?ocid=TSHDHP

WCVB-TV reports that suspicions first arose when Indianapolis linebacker DQwell Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass early in the second quarter of the game. Jackson noticed the ball felt deflated and mentioned something to the teams equipment manager, who brought up the subject to Colts head coach Chuck Pagano. Pagano told the teams GM Ryan Grigson, who called the league.

League officials called and spoke with the games referees during halftime about the issue, leading the referees to change the balls on the field.

WCVB cautions that referees changing balls is common and that balls can deflate for a number of reasons.

Sources told Lynch that several footballs were taken out of play during the game Sunday night, but thats not unusual and there have been times in previous games that officials have changed footballs during play due to factors such as air temperature changed that cause the ball to over or under inflate.

I posted the same article back on page 8..but thanks for clarifying

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

First, I'm not a Pats hater. In fact, I find the practice of rooting against teams a waste of time. Let's get that out of the way...

As most of you know, teams use their own balls during a game. It could be a huge advantage to slightly deflate a ball due to fully inflated balls being harder to throw, especially when it's colder &/or in wet weather. Try throwing a fully inflated NFL football. It's not easy, even with big hands. That's one of the reasons you see ugly passes (even in perfect conditions) from QBs who have been throwing a football nearly their whole lives.

It's dead wrong to assume deflating footballs couldn't make a huge difference in the outcome of a game. It very well might've been the difference between Brady having the kind of game he had or playing more like Luck did. We don't know how much a fully inflated ball would've affected Brady that day. He could've thrown a pick-six that might've changed the whole game. Who knows.

The Pats may very well have won, & likely would have, but we can't assume that. Same for all forms of cheating. This is why the NFL must come down hard on the Pats if it's determined they did indeed deflate footballs. The penalty must be severe enough where teams won't be tempted to try anything underhanded again. Loss of draft picks (including a 1st-rounder), a long suspension, & a fine that truly hurts.

That goes for any team, not just the Pats. This stuff has to stop (if true). I hope it's simply a false accusation.

think he would've had to throw about 5 of those to change that game

 

[dickey moe]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/deflategate-started-with-colts-interception/ar-AA8ncCo?ocid=TSHDHP

WCVB-TV reports that suspicions first arose when Indianapolis linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass early in the second quarter of the game. Jackson noticed the ball felt deflated and mentioned something to the team’s equipment manager, who brought up the subject to Colts head coach Chuck Pagano. Pagano told the team’s GM Ryan Grigson, who called the league.

League officials called and spoke with the game’s referees during halftime about the issue, leading the referees to change the balls on the field.

WCVB cautions that referees changing balls is common and that balls can deflate for a number of reasons.

Sources told Lynch that several footballs were taken out of play during the game Sunday night, but that’s not unusual and there have been times in previous games that officials have changed footballs during play due to factors such as air temperature changed that cause the ball to over or under inflate.

It's a non-issue people. Stop whining.

 

[the moops]

And now it comes out that Akron Rodgers likes his balls overinflated and tries to get away with it whenever he can

 

[JohnnyU]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/deflategate-started-with-colts-interception/ar-AA8ncCo?ocid=TSHDHP

WCVB-TV reports that suspicions first arose when Indianapolis linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass early in the second quarter of the game. Jackson noticed the ball felt deflated and mentioned something to the team’s equipment manager, who brought up the subject to Colts head coach Chuck Pagano. Pagano told the team’s GM Ryan Grigson, who called the league.

League officials called and spoke with the game’s referees during halftime about the issue, leading the referees to change the balls on the field.

WCVB cautions that referees changing balls is common and that balls can deflate for a number of reasons.

Sources told Lynch that several footballs were taken out of play during the game Sunday night, but that’s not unusual and there have been times in previous games that officials have changed footballs during play due to factors such as air temperature changed that cause the ball to over or under inflate.

It's a non-issue people. Stop whining.

What if it was someone from NE deflating the 12 NE balls, not temperature? I haven't heard of a an issue with the 12 Colts balls. If temperature was an issue wouldn't the Colt balls have been deflated also?

 

[the moops]

Well actually there is a report floating around that one of the Indy balls was taken out of play

 

[JohnnyU]

Well actually there is a report floating around that one of the Indy balls was taken out of play

Probably just retaliation from the NE bench.

 

[the moops]

Well actually there is a report floating around that one of the Indy balls was taken out of play

Probably just retaliation from the NE bench.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

First, I'm not a Pats hater. In fact, I find the practice of rooting against teams a waste of time. Let's get that out of the way...

As most of you know, teams use their own balls during a game. It could be a huge advantage to slightly deflate a ball due to fully inflated balls being harder to throw, especially when it's colder &/or in wet weather. Try throwing a fully inflated NFL football. It's not easy, even with big hands. That's one of the reasons you see ugly passes (even in perfect conditions) from QBs who have been throwing a football nearly their whole lives.

It's dead wrong to assume deflating footballs couldn't make a huge difference in the outcome of a game. It very well might've been the difference between Brady having the kind of game he had or playing more like Luck did. We don't know how much a fully inflated ball would've affected Brady that day. He could've thrown a pick-six that might've changed the whole game. Who knows.

The Pats may very well have won, & likely would have, but we can't assume that. Same for all forms of cheating. This is why the NFL must come down hard on the Pats if it's determined they did indeed deflate footballs. The penalty must be severe enough where teams won't be tempted to try anything underhanded again. Loss of draft picks (including a 1st-rounder), a long suspension, & a fine that truly hurts.

That goes for any team, not just the Pats. This stuff has to stop (if true). I hope it's simply a false accusation.

 

[Workhorse]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/deflategate-started-with-colts-interception/ar-AA8ncCo?ocid=TSHDHP

WCVB-TV reports that suspicions first arose when Indianapolis linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass early in the second quarter of the game. Jackson noticed the ball felt deflated and mentioned something to the team’s equipment manager, who brought up the subject to Colts head coach Chuck Pagano. Pagano told the team’s GM Ryan Grigson, who called the league.

League officials called and spoke with the game’s referees during halftime about the issue, leading the referees to change the balls on the field.

WCVB cautions that referees changing balls is common and that balls can deflate for a number of reasons.

Sources told Lynch that several footballs were taken out of play during the game Sunday night, but that’s not unusual and there have been times in previous games that officials have changed footballs during play due to factors such as air temperature changed that cause the ball to over or under inflate.

It's a non-issue people. Stop whining.

What if it was someone from NE deflating the 12 NE balls, not temperature? I haven't heard of a an issue with the 12 Colts balls. If temperature was an issue wouldn't the Colt balls have been deflated also?

Maybe the Patriots just don't care about this stuff. The Colts sideline made this an issue, not the officials.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

We would have won without our cheating is not an argument I would make. I would argue there was no cheating.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

The media WANTS this to be a story. They pump it up over and over trying to get people to tune in.

Sad that the "investigation" will take several weeks / months to conclude only for the NFL to tell us "nothing to see here".

Maybe they should spend more time investigating why two refs refused to throw a flag when the Colts DB grabbed and held facemask as Edelman turns to catch a pass.

 

[HellToupee]

I hate the Patsies but the tinfoil hat crew is priceless

 

[JohnnyU]

We would have won without our cheating is not an argument I would make. I would argue there was no cheating.

I also believe the Pats would have won without cheating, so if true, why the cheating? Just because it wasn't the difference in the game doesn't make it less important. What else are they doing? It's not like they don't have a checkered past.

 

[bostonfred]

I think those patriots are up to something

 

[shader]

I've never in my life seen a dumber "controversy" than this one. Anyone who believes that somehow the Patriots deflated balls to somehow give them an advantage, in a game they were already cruising in....has lost their minds. But yet, many will believe that because they irrationally hate the Pats.

 

[General Tso]

And now it comes out that Akron Rodgers likes his balls overinflated and tries to get away with it whenever he can

I'm hearing reports of this as well. Apparently Rodgers said this during a tv interview in the middle of the season and everyone just laughed at it.This thing is going to get beyond ridiculous...

 

[zilladog]

Are we burying the headline here?

Isn't the real story that the colts are such whiny ####### that they would waste their halftime complaining about balls instead of gameplanning because they knew they were gonna get blown out and humiliated no matter what they did on the field?

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

We would have won without our cheating is not an argument I would make. I would argue there was no cheating.

I also believe the Pats would have won without cheating, so if true, why the cheating? Just because it wasn't the difference in the game doesn't make it less important. What else are they doing? It's not like they don't have a checkered past.

Colts get their ### kicked by the Pats in the playoffs, the Colts organization whines to the league.

In other news, the sun rose in the east today.

Good grief what a pathetic bunch of whiney losers.....

 

[KellysHeroes]

Its funny but non story

Signed jets fan

 

[PatsFanCT]

Why are the patriots always involved in controversies like this? Seems a little fishy to me.

Because people are consistently jealous of their success and grasp at any little detail to try and discredit them. It pretty much boils down to "They hate us cause they ain't us"

This

It's an absolute joke that:

1. People think the Pats needed to deflate balls to beat a team they already beat by 22 points earlier this year.

2. That the ref's are so stupid, they couldn't tell the difference between the balls all game long.

Bottom line is it didn't happen, nothing will come of this because, as stated, jealous people need to make excuses.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

this is all extremely straightforward --- don't know what anybody would be surprised about, or find noteworthy.

the only thing about this that I can't figure out is that indy was just humiliated in that game.

I mean, you don't often see such an emasculation in the regular season let alone the big stage --- they were absolutely embarrassed in front of the world.

so, apparently that wasn't enough and they need to throw another layer of embarrassment on top of that and keep everybody talking about some 45-7 humiliation for attention, or whatever weird psychology is behind it?

I mean, I love talking about the pats and reliving their awesome blowouts and playoff wins, but you'd think indy would be crawling back in their hole about now after allowing that kind of beating.

that was like adrian peterson against his kid.

 

[msudaisy26]

We would have won without our cheating is not an argument I would make. I would argue there was no cheating.

I also believe the Pats would have won without cheating, so if true, why the cheating? Just because it wasn't the difference in the game doesn't make it less important. What else are they doing? It's not like they don't have a checkered past.

Colts get their ### kicked by the Pats in the playoffs, the Colts organization whines to the league.

In other news, the sun rose in the east today.

Good grief what a pathetic bunch of whiney losers.....

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the same Colts organization whine to the league after Peyton set all those records in 2004 about the Pats beating them 20 - 3 in the playoff game? Isn't that why we have the illegal contact penalty now?

 

[PatsFanCT]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/deflategate-started-with-colts-interception/ar-AA8ncCo?ocid=TSHDHP

WCVB-TV reports that suspicions first arose when Indianapolis linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass early in the second quarter of the game. Jackson noticed the ball felt deflated and mentioned something to the team’s equipment manager, who brought up the subject to Colts head coach Chuck Pagano. Pagano told the team’s GM Ryan Grigson, who called the league.

League officials called and spoke with the game’s referees during halftime about the issue, leading the referees to change the balls on the field.

WCVB cautions that referees changing balls is common and that balls can deflate for a number of reasons.

Sources told Lynch that several footballs were taken out of play during the game Sunday night, but that’s not unusual and there have been times in previous games that officials have changed footballs during play due to factors such as air temperature changed that cause the ball to over or under inflate.

It's a non-issue people. Stop whining.

What if it was someone from NE deflating the 12 NE balls, not temperature? I haven't heard of a an issue with the 12 Colts balls. If temperature was an issue wouldn't the Colt balls have been deflated also?

Because this whole thing is made up, that's why. It didn't happen, and it's funny how many people will believe any rumor they hear, believe it, and try to make it a fact.

 

[PatsFanCT]

We would have won without our cheating is not an argument I would make. I would argue there was no cheating.

I also believe the Pats would have won without cheating, so if true, why the cheating? Just because it wasn't the difference in the game doesn't make it less important. What else are they doing? It's not like they don't have a checkered past.

Colts get their ### kicked by the Pats in the playoffs, the Colts organization whines to the league.

In other news, the sun rose in the east today.

Good grief what a pathetic bunch of whiney losers.....

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the same Colts organization whine to the league after Peyton set all those records in 2004 about the Pats beating them 20 - 3 in the playoff game? Isn't that why we have the illegal contact penalty now?

You're wrong.

 

[msudaisy26]

We would have won without our cheating is not an argument I would make. I would argue there was no cheating.

I also believe the Pats would have won without cheating, so if true, why the cheating? Just because it wasn't the difference in the game doesn't make it less important. What else are they doing? It's not like they don't have a checkered past.

Colts get their ### kicked by the Pats in the playoffs, the Colts organization whines to the league.

In other news, the sun rose in the east today.

Good grief what a pathetic bunch of whiney losers.....

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the same Colts organization whine to the league after Peyton set all those records in 2004 about the Pats beating them 20 - 3 in the playoff game? Isn't that why we have the illegal contact penalty now?

You're wrong.

Can you help fix the story for me?

 

[JohnnyU]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/deflategate-started-with-colts-interception/ar-AA8ncCo?ocid=TSHDHP

WCVB-TV reports that suspicions first arose when Indianapolis linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass early in the second quarter of the game. Jackson noticed the ball felt deflated and mentioned something to the team’s equipment manager, who brought up the subject to Colts head coach Chuck Pagano. Pagano told the team’s GM Ryan Grigson, who called the league.

League officials called and spoke with the game’s referees during halftime about the issue, leading the referees to change the balls on the field.

WCVB cautions that referees changing balls is common and that balls can deflate for a number of reasons.

Sources told Lynch that several footballs were taken out of play during the game Sunday night, but that’s not unusual and there have been times in previous games that officials have changed footballs during play due to factors such as air temperature changed that cause the ball to over or under inflate.

It's a non-issue people. Stop whining.

What if it was someone from NE deflating the 12 NE balls, not temperature? I haven't heard of a an issue with the 12 Colts balls. If temperature was an issue wouldn't the Colt balls have been deflated also?

Because this whole thing is made up, that's why. It didn't happen, and it's funny how many people will believe any rumor they hear, believe it, and try to make it a fact.

I don't think that's been decided yet.

 

[JohnnyU]

We would have won without our cheating is not an argument I would make. I would argue there was no cheating.

I also believe the Pats would have won without cheating, so if true, why the cheating? Just because it wasn't the difference in the game doesn't make it less important. What else are they doing? It's not like they don't have a checkered past.

Colts get their ### kicked by the Pats in the playoffs, the Colts organization whines to the league.

In other news, the sun rose in the east today.

Good grief what a pathetic bunch of whiney losers.....

That's taking the easy way out instead of looking at it objectively. Until this is proven a non-story, it's a story. Given NE past, no one would be surprised to see fire where there is smoke. Face it, your team has cheated in the past and probably is cheating now.

 

[thatguy]

The orignal story was written by Bob Kravitz of the Indy Star right?

Pointless story about Kravitz below (almost certainly not worth your time; but this reminded me of something long since forgotten, plus I'm bored):

Kravitz used to write for the Rocky Mountain News (a Denver paper, has since been acquired by the Denver Post). Long long time ago, this was. He frequented the same bar as my mother and stepfather in the late 80's--my sister and I were dragged along on many a night, given a handful of quarters, and told to go play Pacman or video poker. Sometimes we played, other times we kind of wandered around and, in time, we became mascots of sort for the Conville's crew--it was a tight-knit group, good people all. Ah but not Kravitz. Kravitz, he was different, cold, not like the rest. I have no specific memories to speak of--he never spoke to me, he merely looked at me; all I have is the memory of my 6 year old self's conviction in the belief that Kravitz was somehow wrong, cruel even. A few years later, when I was 9 or 10, the Conville's days but a distant memory, my love of all things Denver sports at a fever pitch, I began to read the sports section of the Rocky Mountain News religiously, front to back every day after school. And like that, Kravitz was back in my life, staring at me just as he had years ago, now from the picture that graced his daily articles, his unsmiling face considering me in that off-putting way some adults use to disarm and frighten unassuming children, as if for no other reason than it pleases them to do so. Despite the unsettling memory the first time I saw that face again, I read his article anyway. He was so smug and arrogant in his writing, and I finally understood fully, if not yet in words then at least conceptually, what it was about him that had led to such a strong aversion years earlier. Children have good instincts, I've heard it said. I believe this to be true. Despite my disdain, I read his articles daily; to spite Kravitz, or maybe so that my dislike for the man might grow, or perhaps just to punish myself, as a religious fanatic might repent by wearing a cilice for two hours a day. Anyway, I still remember Bob's final article in the News... What a joyous occasion! With a single word, and I should note, the only worthwhile word he ever wrote in Denver, the cilice loosened forever. The word: goodbye.

Anyway, I'm bored this morning, couldn't sleep. That's my Bob Kravitz story. Glad to know he's as insufferable as ever. I'd expect nothing less; I'd be disappointed with anything more. Hell, maybe he's not actually a bad dude. Perhaps my childhood intuition was merely irrational fear; perhaps Bob looked at me like that because that's simply how he looks. Perhaps he looked at me like that because he found it despicable that parents would allow their young children to spend so much time in a bar, and had he thought that, may well have been right. But man, whatever it was, he didn't merely make me uncomfortable. He scared the #### out of me. Whatever though. I do know that he's as smug, opinionated, and arrogant as they come. But that at least is probably in his job description.

I'm curious, Colts fans, do you guys like this cat?

 

[JohnnyU]

I've never in my life seen a dumber "controversy" than this one. Anyone who believes that somehow the Patriots deflated balls to somehow give them an advantage, in a game they were already cruising in....has lost their minds. But yet, many will believe that because they irrationally hate the Pats.

Who's to say it took place during the game? It could have taken place before the game and after the officials checked the balls, if indeed they did check them

 

[HellToupee]

Is this the same organization that piped in crowd noise in the rca dome?

 

[rockaction]

The orignal story was written by Bob Kravitz of the Indy Star right?

Pointless story about Kravitz below (almost certainly not worth your time; but this reminded me of something long since forgotten, plus I'm bored):

Kravitz used to write for the Rocky Mountain News (a Denver paper, has since been acquired by the Denver Post). Long long time ago, this was. He frequented the same bar as my mother and stepfather in the late 80's--my sister and I were dragged along on many a night, given a handful of quarters, and told to go play Pacman or video poker. Sometimes we played, other times we kind of wandered around and, in time, we became mascots of sort for the Conville's crew--it was a tight-knit group, good people all. Ah but not Kravitz. Kravitz, he was different, cold, not like the rest. I have no specific memories to speak of--he never spoke to me, he merely looked at me; all I have is the memory of my 6 year old self's conviction in the belief that Kravitz was somehow wrong, cruel even. A few years later, when I was 9 or 10, the Conville's days but a distant memory, my love of all things Denver sports at a fever pitch, I began to read the sports section of the Rocky Mountain News religiously, front to back every day after school. And like that, Kravitz was back in my life, staring at me just as he had years ago, now from the picture that graced his daily articles, his unsmiling face considering me in that off-putting way some adults use to disarm and frighten unassuming children, as if for no other reason than it pleases them to do so. Despite the unsettling memory the first time I saw that face again, I read his article anyway. He was so smug and arrogant in his writing, and I finally understood fully, if not yet in words then at least conceptually, what it was about him that had led to such a strong aversion years earlier. Children have good instincts, I've heard it said. I believe this to be true. Despite my disdain, I read his articles daily; to spite Kravitz, or maybe so that my dislike for the man might grow, or perhaps just to punish myself, as a religious fanatic might repent by wearing a cilice for two hours a day. Anyway, I still remember Bob's final article in the News... What a joyous occasion! With a single word, and I should note, the only worthwhile word he ever wrote in Denver, the cilice loosened forever. The word: goodbye.

Anyway, I'm bored this morning, couldn't sleep. That's my Bob Kravitz story. Glad to know he's as insufferable as ever. I'd expect nothing less; I'd be disappointed with anything more. Hell, maybe he's not actually a bad dude. Perhaps my childhood intuition was merely irrational fear; perhaps Bob looked at me like that because that's simply how he looks. Perhaps he looked at me like that because he found it despicable that parents would allow their young children to spend so much time in a bar, and had he thought that, may well have been right. But man, whatever it was, he didn't merely make me uncomfortable. He scared the #### out of me. Whatever though. I do know that he's as smug, opinionated, and arrogant as they come. But that at least is probably in his job description.

I'm curious, Colts fans, do you guys like this cat?

Oh, yes. This seals the deal.

eta* Whoooops, that was your own experience. Shoot, I thought it was an article. Please disregard my sarcastic response. Not sure I agree that children are the greatest judges of character, but that's at least an interesting story.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Kravitz used to write for the Rocky Mountain News (a Denver paper, has since been acquired by the Denver Post). Long long time ago, this was. He frequented the same bar as my mother and stepfather in the late 80's--my sister and I were dragged along on many a night, given a handful of quarters, and told to go play Pacman or video poker.

is this a cry for help?

 

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It is pretty funny how tightly wadded JohnnyU panties are over this. Given his history on this forum, I'm about 95% certain he has a room in his house dedicated to some form of voodoo cursing of the patriots/brady. Not sure I've ever seen a presumably grown man this obsessed with something of this nature.

Carry on with the tinfoil hattage. This is entertaining reading

 

[thatguy]

Kravitz used to write for the Rocky Mountain News (a Denver paper, has since been acquired by the Denver Post). Long long time ago, this was. He frequented the same bar as my mother and stepfather in the late 80's--my sister and I were dragged along on many a night, given a handful of quarters, and told to go play Pacman or video poker.

is this a cry for help?

Lol. Nah. Just a memory. I had a great childhood. I'd forgotten about Kravitz until I saw his name in this thread. The dude freaked me out though. For real.

 

[rockaction]

It is pretty funny how tightly wadded JohnnyU panties are over this. Given his history on this forum, I'm about 95% certain he has a room in his house dedicated to some form of voodoo cursing of the patriots/brady. Not sure I've ever seen a presumably grown man this obsessed with something of this nature.

Carry on with the tinfoil hattage. This is entertaining reading

Please don't show up in the Bruins or Red Sox threads next time a New England team makes it into finals. You're only proving Dr. Detroit completely correct about New England fans.