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Patriots being investigated after Colts game (1 Viewer)

Percent of NFL teams actively trying to steal play sheets?

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Am I the only non-Pats fan who still doesn't think this is a big deal? When the Manning/Brady petition changed the rules, it pretty much gave every QB the freedom to doctor the balls to their liking. Now it's just an accepted part of the culture. It seems many QBs are not happy that this is being brought to the limelight as it wil, if nothing else, lead to much more stringent rules concerning ball control and handling. I don't really care how the balls lost the 2 PSI, but I think the hot air theory is the most likely scenario. I just don't care; I say leave well enough alone. :shrug:
Nope... i'm not a Pats fan and I think this is ridiculous too.
It's a big difference. Even if most QBs are doing it, that's like saying that steroids were no big deal because most guys were taking them. Either way, the guys who aren't doing it are at a big disadvantage.

And yes, having a deflated football is a big advantage. Aside from personal experience, every player that they've asked about it has said yes, it is a major advantage.
Well other than Aaron Rodgers the best QB in the league. I know he wasn't asked in response to the controversy. But unless you're arguing that Phil Simms lied on air and Rodgers never corrected him he thinks a deflated ball is a disadvantage.
Rodgers said that HE doesn't like them, but also said that most QBs would consider it a big advantage.

"The majority of quarterbacks are maybe on the other end of the spectrum and like it on the flatter side," Rodgers said. "My belief is that there should be a minimum air-pressure requirement but not a maximum. There's no advantage, in my opinion -- we're not kicking the football -- there's no advantage in having a pumped-up football."
odgers said he has a "major problem" with how often officials deflate footballs. The New England Patriots were accused of deflating their footballs for the AFC championship game Sunday, something the NFL is investigating.

Rodgers would like to see stricter standards enforced, especially against flatter footballs.

"They have a set range they like them at," Rodgers said Tuesday on his ESPN Milwaukee radio show. "I always like to be on the high range because of my grip pressure. I just have a hard time throwing a flat football. The majority of the quarterbacks – I would say more than half – are on the other side of the spectrum and like it on the flatter side.

"My belief is that there should be a minimum air pressure requirement, but not a maximum."

NFL rules stipulate footballs used during games must be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces. Rodgers said quarterbacks have "no advantage" throwing a heavily inflated football.

In fact, he said, it's more challenging for quarterbacks with smaller hands or a weaker grip. For them, a flatter football is beneficial.

Rodgers doesn't want to penalize quarterbacks with smaller hands or weaker grips, he said. But when officials deflate footballs before "every game," Rodgers believes it puts him at a disadvantage.

"My biggest problem," Rodgers said, "is I don't think you should be allowed to take air out of the footballs, because it's not an advantage when you have a football that's inflated more than the average, whatever air pressure they want. It's a preference."

You missed a bit of the quote :)

The parts you omitted show you are not trying to be fair on the topic.
Not sure what any of the rest of that matters. All he says, over and over again, is that most players find deflated balls as an advantage while almost no one other than him sees inflated balls as an advantage.

Regardless, this is a dumb topic. Go throw a deflated football and a regulation ball and get back to me. 99.9999% of people find a slightly deflated ball significantly easier to throw. It's not rocket science. Seriously, go do it and tell me there's not a BIG difference. I've had personal experience with it. Or you can flip on ESPN and watch Brunell/Bettis' 10 minute rant about how big of an advantage it is and how they wish they could have played with deflated balls.
LOL, sorry, but I can't take that seriously. Ignoring the fact that they are paid to enhance controversies, what else would they say? Bettis would rather run with a 0 PSI ball that he could stuff in his pants and stiff arm two guys at once and Brunnell was a 6-1 QB that fumbled 76 times in 151 career starts. If Brady/Manning were behind allowing QBs some flexibility, then Brunnell likely didn't benefit from that at all.
maybe if Brunell had the opportunity to deflate his balls, he wouldn't have fumbled 76 times. Manning/Brady got the league to let them doctor balls in 2006...Brunell had one career start after that.

 
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/22/deflategate-video-how-nfl-officials-check-game-ball-pressure/

I'm sure it will be a Rorschach test, but these guys dont look like they do this very often.
Not only that, but they would certainly do a full inspection with cameras present. Would they do that regularly? Who knows. The discussion is definitely one that sounds like refs know what's up but aren't busting anyone's balls about it, as it were.

everyone just needs to get a grip
I'll try, but it's pretty tough if they're a full 13.5.

 
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/22/deflategate-video-how-nfl-officials-check-game-ball-pressure/

I'm sure it will be a Rorschach test, but these guys dont look like they do this very often.
Not only that, but they would certainly do a full inspection with cameras present. Would they do that regularly? Who knows. The discussion is definitely one that sounds like refs know what's up but aren't busting anyone's balls about it, as it were.

everyone just needs to get a grip
I'll try, but it's pretty tough if they're a full 13.5.
...says small-handed guy.

 
@Jeronimo63: Were the Colts footballs ever checked?

@mortreport: Yes, they were within regulation and remained within regulation
sure, but what were the starting #s for the colts and did that change at all, even if they stayed within range. Huge piece of info needed here.
Icon has a good point though. What if Indy always did it too though. They knew damn well the balls were going to be checked that day (Since Baltimore tipped them off, since they planned on telling the refs on the pats, since maybe they thought the nfl was made aware too). So for this game only, the decided to play with fully inflated balls.

They probably shouldn't do that anymore.
What good does that do for them? Then Luck has to play without the balls deflated the way he presumably (according to this ridiculous theory) likes them, while Brady gets to play with them exactly how he likes them. They still are at a disadvantage in the game. I dont think they did this just so that after they lost they could make accusations. They wanted to win, and if properly inflating their footballs didnt help them win, then why would they do it just to get the Pats in trouble after the game is decided? Its not a good point. Makes zero sense.

 
Back then (referring to Alex Smith's 2005 rookie year), however, the opposing team handled all footballs used in games. And they would send in, perhaps strategically, balls straight out of the box that still had a sheen of waterproofing that made them hard and extremely slick. The following offseason, a group of veteran quarterbacks led by Peyton Manning and Tom Brady petitioned the league to allow both teams to supply balls that had been scuffed up, worn in and had a better grip.

Read more here: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/08/small-hands-smith-how-a-myth-is-born-and-never-dies.html#storylink=cpy
http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/08/small-hands-smith-how-a-myth-is-born-and-never-dies.html

INT's per year league wide:

2003: 538 on 16495 attempts (3.26%)

2004: 521 on 16350 attempts (3.19%)

2005: 504 on 16465 attempts (3.06%)

2006: 520 on 16390 attempts (3.17%)

2007: 526 on 17054 attempts (3.08%)

2008: 464 on 16526 attempts (2.81%)

2009: 525 on 17034 attempts (3.08%)

2010: 510 on 17268 attempts (2.95)*

2011: 506 on 17410 attempts (2.91%)

2012: 468 on 17793 attempts (2.63%)

2013: 501 on 18144 attempts (2.76%)

2014: 450 on 17884 attempts (2.52%)

There were 29% more INT's in 2003 than 2014
Good info. This IMHO seems like a manufactured controversy. They changed the rules so QBs could make sure they had balls like they liked. Now, Indy started a firestorm and the NFL has to react. It will be interesting to see what they do, but this is so silly at this point.

Why not go back through all of NFL history pre-rule change and see how many home teams had an advantage in every playoff game because they supplied all balls for the game? Seems like there could be a lot of ****** to go around. If we are going to dig into this, let's examine every INT ever thrown by a visiting team pre-rule change.

 
Am I the only non-Pats fan who still doesn't think this is a big deal? When the Manning/Brady petition changed the rules, it pretty much gave every QB the freedom to doctor the balls to their liking. Now it's just an accepted part of the culture. It seems many QBs are not happy that this is being brought to the limelight as it wil, if nothing else, lead to much more stringent rules concerning ball control and handling. I don't really care how the balls lost the 2 PSI, but I think the hot air theory is the most likely scenario. I just don't care; I say leave well enough alone. :shrug:
Nope... i'm not a Pats fan and I think this is ridiculous too.
It's a big difference. Even if most QBs are doing it, that's like saying that steroids were no big deal because most guys were taking them. Either way, the guys who aren't doing it are at a big disadvantage.

And yes, having a deflated football is a big advantage. Aside from personal experience, every player that they've asked about it has said yes, it is a major advantage.
Well other than Aaron Rodgers the best QB in the league. I know he wasn't asked in response to the controversy. But unless you're arguing that Phil Simms lied on air and Rodgers never corrected him he thinks a deflated ball is a disadvantage.
Rodgers said that HE doesn't like them, but also said that most QBs would consider it a big advantage.

"The majority of quarterbacks are maybe on the other end of the spectrum and like it on the flatter side," Rodgers said. "My belief is that there should be a minimum air-pressure requirement but not a maximum. There's no advantage, in my opinion -- we're not kicking the football -- there's no advantage in having a pumped-up football."
odgers said he has a "major problem" with how often officials deflate footballs. The New England Patriots were accused of deflating their footballs for the AFC championship game Sunday, something the NFL is investigating.

Rodgers would like to see stricter standards enforced, especially against flatter footballs.

"They have a set range they like them at," Rodgers said Tuesday on his ESPN Milwaukee radio show. "I always like to be on the high range because of my grip pressure. I just have a hard time throwing a flat football. The majority of the quarterbacks – I would say more than half – are on the other side of the spectrum and like it on the flatter side.

"My belief is that there should be a minimum air pressure requirement, but not a maximum."

NFL rules stipulate footballs used during games must be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces. Rodgers said quarterbacks have "no advantage" throwing a heavily inflated football.

In fact, he said, it's more challenging for quarterbacks with smaller hands or a weaker grip. For them, a flatter football is beneficial.

Rodgers doesn't want to penalize quarterbacks with smaller hands or weaker grips, he said. But when officials deflate footballs before "every game," Rodgers believes it puts him at a disadvantage.

"My biggest problem," Rodgers said, "is I don't think you should be allowed to take air out of the footballs, because it's not an advantage when you have a football that's inflated more than the average, whatever air pressure they want. It's a preference."

You missed a bit of the quote :)

The parts you omitted show you are not trying to be fair on the topic.
Not sure what any of the rest of that matters. All he says, over and over again, is that most players find deflated balls as an advantage while almost no one other than him sees inflated balls as an advantage.

Regardless, this is a dumb topic. Go throw a deflated football and a regulation ball and get back to me. 99.9999% of people find a slightly deflated ball significantly easier to throw. It's not rocket science. Seriously, go do it and tell me there's not a BIG difference. I've had personal experience with it. Or you can flip on ESPN and watch Brunell/Bettis' 10 minute rant about how big of an advantage it is and how they wish they could have played with deflated balls.
LOL, sorry, but I can't take that seriously. Ignoring the fact that they are paid to enhance controversies, what else would they say? Bettis would rather run with a 0 PSI ball that he could stuff in his pants and stiff arm two guys at once and Brunnell was a 6-1 QB that fumbled 76 times in 151 career starts. If Brady/Manning were behind allowing QBs some flexibility, then Brunnell likely didn't benefit from that at all.
maybe if Brunell had the opportunity to deflate his balls, he wouldn't have fumbled 76 times. Manning/Brady got the league to let them doctor balls in 2006...Brunell had one career start after that.
Agreed, so don't you think he isn't really an objective person to ask? If only I played now, maybe I would be a HOFer (bubble above Brunnell's head).

 
Back then (referring to Alex Smith's 2005 rookie year), however, the opposing team handled all footballs used in games. And they would send in, perhaps strategically, balls straight out of the box that still had a sheen of waterproofing that made them hard and extremely slick. The following offseason, a group of veteran quarterbacks led by Peyton Manning and Tom Brady petitioned the league to allow both teams to supply balls that had been scuffed up, worn in and had a better grip.

Read more here: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/08/small-hands-smith-how-a-myth-is-born-and-never-dies.html#storylink=cpy
http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/08/small-hands-smith-how-a-myth-is-born-and-never-dies.html

INT's per year league wide:

2003: 538 on 16495 attempts (3.26%)

2004: 521 on 16350 attempts (3.19%)

2005: 504 on 16465 attempts (3.06%)

2006: 520 on 16390 attempts (3.17%)

2007: 526 on 17054 attempts (3.08%)

2008: 464 on 16526 attempts (2.81%)

2009: 525 on 17034 attempts (3.08%)

2010: 510 on 17268 attempts (2.95)*

2011: 506 on 17410 attempts (2.91%)

2012: 468 on 17793 attempts (2.63%)

2013: 501 on 18144 attempts (2.76%)

2014: 450 on 17884 attempts (2.52%)

There were 29% more INT's in 2003 than 2014
Good info. This IMHO seems like a manufactured controversy. They changed the rules so QBs could make sure they had balls like they liked. Now, Indy started a firestorm and the NFL has to react. It will be interesting to see what they do, but this is so silly at this point.

Why not go back through all of NFL history pre-rule change and see how many home teams had an advantage in every playoff game because they supplied all balls for the game? Seems like there could be a lot of ****** to go around. If we are going to dig into this, let's examine every INT ever thrown by a visiting team pre-rule change.
Yeah but those cheating New Englanders have a long history of this crap. Read some of the stories of the old Boston Garden. Hidden spots in the floor where the ball wouldn't bounce as high, hot visiting locker rooms. All they know how to do up there is cheat!

 
http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2015/01/22/report-tom-brady-tells-teammates-behind-closed-doors-he-prefers-footballs-a-certain-way/

Tom Brady

is apparently accepting responsibility for Deflategate with his teammates.

According to a report from NBC News, the quarterback addressed his teammates behind closed doors Thursday, telling his team that he prefers the football

a certain way. The report also indicates Brady told everyone to stay focused on the

Super Bowl.



The Patriots quarterback told WEEIs Dennis and Callahan Monday that talk of the team purposely deflating footballs is ridiculous. Apparently the whirlwind of national media focus on the story has changed his mind enough to address it in a team meeting.

Bill Belichick acknowledged Thursday morning that the team would be more diligent in the future to ensure that the footballs they hand the officials are inflated beyond the minimum 12.5 pounds per square inch.

If Brady or someone else had the balls deflated below 12.5 psi intentionally, he and the Patriots were breaking NFL rules.
:lol:

 
Am I the only non-Pats fan who still doesn't think this is a big deal? When the Manning/Brady petition changed the rules, it pretty much gave every QB the freedom to doctor the balls to their liking. Now it's just an accepted part of the culture. It seems many QBs are not happy that this is being brought to the limelight as it wil, if nothing else, lead to much more stringent rules concerning ball control and handling. I don't really care how the balls lost the 2 PSI, but I think the hot air theory is the most likely scenario. I just don't care; I say leave well enough alone. :shrug:
Nope... i'm not a Pats fan and I think this is ridiculous too.
It's a big difference. Even if most QBs are doing it, that's like saying that steroids were no big deal because most guys were taking them. Either way, the guys who aren't doing it are at a big disadvantage.

And yes, having a deflated football is a big advantage. Aside from personal experience, every player that they've asked about it has said yes, it is a major advantage.
Well other than Aaron Rodgers the best QB in the league. I know he wasn't asked in response to the controversy. But unless you're arguing that Phil Simms lied on air and Rodgers never corrected him he thinks a deflated ball is a disadvantage.
Rodgers said that HE doesn't like them, but also said that most QBs would consider it a big advantage.

"The majority of quarterbacks are maybe on the other end of the spectrum and like it on the flatter side," Rodgers said. "My belief is that there should be a minimum air-pressure requirement but not a maximum. There's no advantage, in my opinion -- we're not kicking the football -- there's no advantage in having a pumped-up football."
Your statement is incorrect. He said most QB's "like it" and that he feels there's no advantage to a pumped-up football. He never says in that quote that there is a big advantage to a deflated ball.Also, his statement that there is no advantage to a pumped up ball is disingenuous. You may believe it, but I don't. Simms mentioned that Rodgers has big hands, so he is likely able to grip a pumped-up ball better than most and over-inflated balls should travel faster and farther (see the sports science show which showed how deflated balls were slower), which based on his arm and ability to go deep seems to be an advantage.
And yet that advantage would likely be offset by the fact that hard balls are more difficult to catch. Soft balls, now they are easier to throw for small-handed, soft grip-strength girly men like Brady AND they are easier to catch.

 
Rodgers interview makes no sense to me. If he prefers to throw an inflated ball because it gives him an advantage, than how can he say that there should be no maximum psi because there is "no advantage". His comments are extremely self-serving. It's as if he wants a rule that goes against what the majority of NFL players want, but instead wants no rules that goes against what HE prefers.
I think the drift there is that he wants a level playing field (so to speak). QBs who prefer an underinflated ball are gaining a throwing advantage the he himself cannot gain. So he would prefer that they are forced to use a more inflated ball like he does. It's not that he's looking for advantage, he wants to take away the advantage that others get.

That's how i took it anyway, YMMV

 
Rodgers interview makes no sense to me. If he prefers to throw an inflated ball because it gives him an advantage, than how can he say that there should be no maximum psi because there is "no advantage". His comments are extremely self-serving. It's as if he wants a rule that goes against what the majority of NFL players want, but instead wants no rules that goes against what HE prefers.
I think the drift there is that he wants a level playing field (so to speak). QBs who prefer an underinflated ball are gaining a throwing advantage the he himself cannot gain. So he would prefer that they are forced to use a more inflated ball like he does. It's not that he's looking for advantage, he wants to take away the advantage that others get.

That's how i took it anyway, YMMV
Level playing field, except for the part where he likes a more inflated ball so he thinks there should be a minimum pressure, but not a maximum. Convenient that.

 
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/22/deflategate-video-how-nfl-officials-check-game-ball-pressure/

I'm sure it will be a Rorschach test, but these guys dont look like they do this very often.
Not only that, but they would certainly do a full inspection with cameras present. Would they do that regularly? Who knows. The discussion is definitely one that sounds like refs know what's up but aren't busting anyone's balls about it, as it were.

everyone just needs to get a grip
I'll try, but it's pretty tough if they're a full 13.5.
...says small-handed guy.
Don't extrapolate. I had all my fingers cut off at the top knuckle in a tragic chess accident.

 
This is just weird. Brady is just describing what QBs do to prepare the balls for the game... its not an admission, everybody does it. But he's apologetic. Weird.

 
Am I the only non-Pats fan who still doesn't think this is a big deal? When the Manning/Brady petition changed the rules, it pretty much gave every QB the freedom to doctor the balls to their liking. Now it's just an accepted part of the culture. It seems many QBs are not happy that this is being brought to the limelight as it wil, if nothing else, lead to much more stringent rules concerning ball control and handling. I don't really care how the balls lost the 2 PSI, but I think the hot air theory is the most likely scenario. I just don't care; I say leave well enough alone. :shrug:
Nope... i'm not a Pats fan and I think this is ridiculous too.
It's a big difference. Even if most QBs are doing it, that's like saying that steroids were no big deal because most guys were taking them. Either way, the guys who aren't doing it are at a big disadvantage.

And yes, having a deflated football is a big advantage. Aside from personal experience, every player that they've asked about it has said yes, it is a major advantage.
Well other than Aaron Rodgers the best QB in the league. I know he wasn't asked in response to the controversy. But unless you're arguing that Phil Simms lied on air and Rodgers never corrected him he thinks a deflated ball is a disadvantage.
Rodgers said that HE doesn't like them, but also said that most QBs would consider it a big advantage.

"The majority of quarterbacks are maybe on the other end of the spectrum and like it on the flatter side," Rodgers said. "My belief is that there should be a minimum air-pressure requirement but not a maximum. There's no advantage, in my opinion -- we're not kicking the football -- there's no advantage in having a pumped-up football."
odgers said he has a "major problem" with how often officials deflate footballs. The New England Patriots were accused of deflating their footballs for the AFC championship game Sunday, something the NFL is investigating.

Rodgers would like to see stricter standards enforced, especially against flatter footballs.

"They have a set range they like them at," Rodgers said Tuesday on his ESPN Milwaukee radio show. "I always like to be on the high range because of my grip pressure. I just have a hard time throwing a flat football. The majority of the quarterbacks – I would say more than half – are on the other side of the spectrum and like it on the flatter side.

"My belief is that there should be a minimum air pressure requirement, but not a maximum."

NFL rules stipulate footballs used during games must be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces. Rodgers said quarterbacks have "no advantage" throwing a heavily inflated football.

In fact, he said, it's more challenging for quarterbacks with smaller hands or a weaker grip. For them, a flatter football is beneficial.

Rodgers doesn't want to penalize quarterbacks with smaller hands or weaker grips, he said. But when officials deflate footballs before "every game," Rodgers believes it puts him at a disadvantage.

"My biggest problem," Rodgers said, "is I don't think you should be allowed to take air out of the footballs, because it's not an advantage when you have a football that's inflated more than the average, whatever air pressure they want. It's a preference."

You missed a bit of the quote :)

The parts you omitted show you are not trying to be fair on the topic.
Not sure what any of the rest of that matters. All he says, over and over again, is that most players find deflated balls as an advantage while almost no one other than him sees inflated balls as an advantage.

Regardless, this is a dumb topic. Go throw a deflated football and a regulation ball and get back to me. 99.9999% of people find a slightly deflated ball significantly easier to throw. It's not rocket science. Seriously, go do it and tell me there's not a BIG difference. I've had personal experience with it. Or you can flip on ESPN and watch Brunell/Bettis' 10 minute rant about how big of an advantage it is and how they wish they could have played with deflated balls.
Rodgers interview makes no sense to me. If he prefers to throw an inflated ball because it gives him an advantage, than how can he say that there should be no maximum psi because there is "no advantage". His comments are extremely self-serving. It's as if he wants a rule that goes against what the majority of NFL players want, but instead wants no rules that goes against what HE prefers.
Rodgers loves to clown the media. You have to know the guy well, and be able to see his facial expressions while he is speaking or you will miss what is going on.

 
are you a chet? no i dont believe so...In other words, you are..

Hey lance armstrong you're on drugs." i never failed a test'

never do they say i didnt take drugs they say i never failed a test.Brady is a clown, cheater, fraud.

strip him and the Pats of thei sb victories and suspend him forever.hes so narcissitic its unbelievable.

self centered #####..

nice hat, tommy boy..nice bell on top.killing them with kindness and charm..lol.i love hes so guilty its ridiculous.

Asterisk Bradyi have no knowledge of anything..bs you liar..

 
NFL to remind teams not to warm footballs ...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000437309/article/nfl-to-remind-teams-not-to-warm-footballs

-----------------

At one point during the Carolina-Panthers-Minnesota Vikings tussle on Sunday, the FOX broadcast showed the wind chill at TFC Bank Stadium to be -7 degrees.

.... During the game, cameras showed sideline attendants using heaters to warm frozen footballs.

----------------

Cheaters!

I can see big fines, suspensions and loss of draft picks coming to both these teams.

 
Next Up:

Goddell: "We could find no evidence of wrongdoing on behalf of the New England Patriots and their staff.... this case is closed"

[On Deck: Shart Pool Implosion, Fans renouncing the NFL, Tanner9919 on suicide watch]

:popcorn:

 
This is way more honest than I think most people expected. He sounded vulnerable, answered every question and didn't stonewall anything. I just respect this guy so much.

 
good stuff.

More from the original source:

Based on the assumption that fumbles per play follow a normal distribution, you’d expect to see, according to random fluctuation, the results that the Patriots have gotten over this period, once in 16,233.77 instances”.

Which in layman’s terms means that this result only being a coincidence, is like winning a raffle where you have a 0.0000616 probability to win. Which in other words, it’s very unlikely that it’s a coincidence.

...

As you can see, the Patriots won their Super Bowls having a below average rate of fumbles lost given today’s average of 105 plays/game. But in 2007, something happened to propel them to a much better rate (you’ll remember, that just so happened to be the same year they went 16-0 in the regular season). But even looking at these numbers, its clear how insane the 187 number is: they are almost running 100 MORE plays without a single fumble as compared to the 2002-2006 period when they won 2 of their 3 Super Bowls.

...

Could the Patriots be so good that they just defy the numbers? As my friend theorized: Perhaps they’ve invented a revolutionary in-house way to protect the ball, or perhaps they’ve intentionally stocked their skill positions with players who don’t have a propensity to fumble. Or perhaps still, they call plays which intentionally result in a lower percentage of fumbles. Or maybe its just that they play with deflated footballs on offense. It could be any combination of the above.

But regardless of what, specifically, is causing these numbers, the fact remains: this is an extremely abnormal occurrence and is NOT simply random fluctuation.
 
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At the end of each answer, there's a mad, verbal scramble for the reporters to get their next question in. There's one lady who I swear has shouted "TOM, DO YOU THINK" but keeps getting beat out by another question. It''s happened 10-12 times, really funny to hear.

 
So everybody knew the Patriots were deflating balls except the Patriots. That's the strategy?

Someone needs to get these guys some PR help.

 
These reporters are dopes, QB is holding the ball for 3 to 7 seconds at a time, with guys trying to take his head off. Its not like he's walkin around with it under his arm.,

 
Do these idiots even understand that the weather is GOING to affect the ball pressure, it's only a question of how much? :wall:

 
These reporters are dopes, QB is holding the ball for 3 to 7 seconds at a time, with guys trying to take his head off. Its not like he's walkin around with it under his arm.,
Yeah, they've asked 300 different ways "did you notice/how could you not notice a difference?" He's giving a good, reasonable sounding answer. It's cold. It's wet. He's not concerned with testing balls, he's thinking/focusing on calling/thinking about/executing plays, etc.

 

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