Patriots WR's (1 Viewer)

[Anarchy99]

Edelman can be a massive steal at his current ADP if he nails that starting job. His injury has people sleeping on him. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to take the Welker role over.

The issue in NE will be that they have several talented guys fighting for what will likely be the 4th receiving option behind Amendola, Gronk, and Vereen. Whoever gets tabbed as a "starter" at receiver will likely rotate with other players and may not see the ball enough to be a real find in your typical fantasy league.

In the TB and BB era, the player with the 4th most receptions each year in NE has not been a huge fantasy producer. The most receptions in any season would have been 51 last year by "he who shall not be named." Branch also had 51 catches the season before. That year, Branch had the highest yardage total of any of the players that had the 4th most receptions with 702. In 9 of those seasons, the player with the 4th most receptions did not have 500 receiving yards.

So unless ONE GUY completely takes over a starting spot and all the other guys seemingly disappear, the numbers probably will not be great for the 4th receiving option. Bottom line, it's unlikely Vereen has a great receiving year and a WR also has a great year receiving.

Gronk possible PUP, Vereen has never been a consistent #2 receiver for NE. This makes whoever is lining

up opposite Amendola a very intriguing play. Lots of question marks passing wise for NE these days.

You could say that any year. Whoever lined up at WR with Welker would be an interesting play. If that guy was Moss, then you'd be right. If that guy was not Moss, then you'd be mostly wrong. The best season turned in by a WR someone other than Welker or Moss in the past 10 years was Lloyd last year, and that wasn't terrible but it wasn't great.

I stand by my point that unless someone is leaps and bounds above everyone else at receiver and he can keep everyone else at bay and on the bench, with decent health to people I don't see that guy being an uber fantasy stud.

Maybe if Gronk misses extensive time there will be more opportunities, but I think Edelman will share time with the rookies.

 

[Run It Up]

Gronk possible PUP, Vereen has never been a consistent #2 receiver for NE. This makes whoever is liningup opposite Amendola a very intriguing play. Lots of question marks passing wise for NE these days.

Because no one has been a consistent #2 receiver for NE ever. What does this even mean lol? They were so flush with talent the last two years and Vereen was injured for one of them. If Hernandez and Woodhead weren't there I'm confident Vereen would have been their #3 receiver behind Welker and Gronk. They had so many proven pieces they used all of them.

 

[PatsFanCT]

The way all these other teams in the NFL are dropping WR's to ACL tears, the Pats WR's will be fine, as long as they stay healthy.

 

[Sabertooth]

I don't think you can count on Gronk and Amendola to survive the season. They are both prone to missing games. If they, I think Edelman and Vereen will shine. They know the system much better than the rooks and newbs. They will most likely be great spot starts here and there.

 

[simey]

The best season turned in by a WR someone other than Welker or Moss in the past 10 years was Lloyd last year, and that wasn't terrible but it wasn't great.

Deion Branch in 2005 = 998 receiving yards / 5 TD

Lloyd in 2012 = 911 receiving yards / 4 TD

 

[PatsFanCT]

I don't think you can count on Gronk and Amendola to survive the season. They are both prone to missing games. If they, I think Edelman and Vereen will shine. They know the system much better than the rooks and newbs. They will most likely be great spot starts here and there.

Ugh, not this again. Stop already. They are no more prone to injury than any other WR or TE.

 

[Anarchy99]

The best season turned in by a WR someone other than Welker or Moss in the past 10 years was Lloyd last year, and that wasn't terrible but it wasn't great.

Deion Branch in 2005 = 998 receiving yards / 5 TD

Lloyd in 2012 = 911 receiving yards / 4 TD

Would you consider those numbers a "great" fantasy season?

 

[simey]

The best season turned in by a WR someone other than Welker or Moss in the past 10 years was Lloyd last year, and that wasn't terrible but it wasn't great.

Deion Branch in 2005 = 998 receiving yards / 5 TD

Lloyd in 2012 = 911 receiving yards / 4 TD

Would you consider those numbers a "great" fantasy season?

First Tier WR Territory!!

 

[saintfool]

let's see what the offense looks like when they take the field. there is little sense in digging out old metrics when there has been this much change in personnel. the reports, especially following the scrimmage with the eagles, suggest that dobson and thompkins are ahead of boyce for now. boyce has the tantalizing speed but he's behind the others. i'm not expecting things to remain static as the season progresses.

 

[Run It Up]

let's see what the offense looks like when they take the field. there is little sense in digging out old metrics when there has been this much change in personnel. the reports, especially following the scrimmage with the eagles, suggest that dobson and thompkins are ahead of boyce for now. boyce has the tantalizing speed but he's behind the others. i'm not expecting things to remain static as the season progresses.

Has Boyce had any special teams experience?

 

[EBF]

Boyce returned a handful of kicks in college. That's it, as far as I know.

 

[Anarchy99]

The best season turned in by a WR someone other than Welker or Moss in the past 10 years was Lloyd last year, and that wasn't terrible but it wasn't great.

Deion Branch in 2005 = 998 receiving yards / 5 TD

Lloyd in 2012 = 911 receiving yards / 4 TD

Would you consider those numbers a "great" fantasy season?

First Tier WR Territory!!

Lloyd ranked 34th last year.

 

[lbouchard]

let's see what the offense looks like when they take the field. there is little sense in digging out old metrics when there has been this much change in personnel. the reports, especially following the scrimmage with the eagles, suggest that dobson and thompkins are ahead of boyce for now. boyce has the tantalizing speed but he's behind the others. i'm not expecting things to remain static as the season progresses.

I've heard differently. Thompkins is clearly the best of the 3 so far. Dobson has done well on deeper balls, but right now, he doesn't get open consistently under 20 yards. Boyce has been a smooth route runner and explosive in and out of breaks according to reports. Dobson is the least versatile of the three rookies, as he can only really play the X. The other two could play X, Z, and slot if needed. Pats are all about versatility.

 

[RushHour]

Man, I don't know what to believe right now. I kind of like all three of the rookie WRs.

 

[simey]

The best season turned in by a WR someone other than Welker or Moss in the past 10 years was Lloyd last year, and that wasn't terrible but it wasn't great.

Deion Branch in 2005 = 998 receiving yards / 5 TD

Lloyd in 2012 = 911 receiving yards / 4 TD

Would you consider those numbers a "great" fantasy season?

First Tier WR Territory!!

Lloyd ranked 34th last year.

I wasn't being serious. Who would consider those numbers a "great" fantasy season? I brought up Branch, because he is the one who had the next best season as a WR (behind Welker and Moss) over the last 10 years for NE. It wasn't that much better than Lloyds, but it was better. He might as well get credit for it.

 

[saintfool]

let's see what the offense looks like when they take the field. there is little sense in digging out old metrics when there has been this much change in personnel. the reports, especially following the scrimmage with the eagles, suggest that dobson and thompkins are ahead of boyce for now. boyce has the tantalizing speed but he's behind the others. i'm not expecting things to remain static as the season progresses.

I've heard differently. Thompkins is clearly the best of the 3 so far. Dobson has done well on deeper balls, but right now, he doesn't get open consistently under 20 yards. Boyce has been a smooth route runner and explosive in and out of breaks according to reports. Dobson is the least versatile of the three rookies, as he can only really play the X. The other two could play X, Z, and slot if needed. Pats are all about versatility.

These are my most recent "sources" and they're not parachuting in for an afternoon:

"Dobson is the real deal" - from today, for example. They say this kind of stuff day after day. Dobson might not have the breakaway speed that Boyce does but he catches everything. They seem to think that trust matters to Brady and I'll concur. Brady has touch still at this stage of his career and Dobson seems like he knows how to use his body to make a play. I'm a Saints fan and know how players like Colston and Moore stay valuable.

 

[Sabertooth]

I don't think you can count on Gronk and Amendola to survive the season. They are both prone to missing games. If they, I think Edelman and Vereen will shine. They know the system much better than the rooks and newbs. They will most likely be great spot starts here and there.

Ugh, not this again. Stop already. They are no more prone to injury than any other WR or TE.

Meh. Gronk has had 4 surgeries this offseason and Amendola plays with too much abandon for a guy his size.

 

[lbouchard]

let's see what the offense looks like when they take the field. there is little sense in digging out old metrics when there has been this much change in personnel. the reports, especially following the scrimmage with the eagles, suggest that dobson and thompkins are ahead of boyce for now. boyce has the tantalizing speed but he's behind the others. i'm not expecting things to remain static as the season progresses.

I've heard differently. Thompkins is clearly the best of the 3 so far. Dobson has done well on deeper balls, but right now, he doesn't get open consistently under 20 yards. Boyce has been a smooth route runner and explosive in and out of breaks according to reports. Dobson is the least versatile of the three rookies, as he can only really play the X. The other two could play X, Z, and slot if needed. Pats are all about versatility.

These are my most recent "sources" and they're not parachuting in for an afternoon:"Dobson is the real deal" - from today, for example. They say this kind of stuff day after day. Dobson might not have the breakaway speed that Boyce does but he catches everything. They seem to think that trust matters to Brady and I'll concur. Brady has touch still at this stage of his career and Dobson seems like he knows how to use his body to make a play. I'm a Saints fan and know how players like Colston and Moore stay valuable.

Even that report mentions how he's always covered, and how it could pose a serious problem. You do make a good point about trust, but there have been several reports the last few days about how much Brady already trusts Thompkins.

 

[Faust]

Video Link:

New England Patriots receivers starting to catch on

00:58 – Albert Breer discusses how the New England Patriots' young receiving corps is coming together and meshing with quarterback Tom Brady.

 

[saintfool]

let's see what the offense looks like when they take the field. there is little sense in digging out old metrics when there has been this much change in personnel. the reports, especially following the scrimmage with the eagles, suggest that dobson and thompkins are ahead of boyce for now. boyce has the tantalizing speed but he's behind the others. i'm not expecting things to remain static as the season progresses.

I've heard differently. Thompkins is clearly the best of the 3 so far. Dobson has done well on deeper balls, but right now, he doesn't get open consistently under 20 yards. Boyce has been a smooth route runner and explosive in and out of breaks according to reports. Dobson is the least versatile of the three rookies, as he can only really play the X. The other two could play X, Z, and slot if needed. Pats are all about versatility.

These are my most recent "sources" and they're not parachuting in for an afternoon:"Dobson is the real deal" - from today, for example. They say this kind of stuff day after day. Dobson might not have the breakaway speed that Boyce does but he catches everything. They seem to think that trust matters to Brady and I'll concur. Brady has touch still at this stage of his career and Dobson seems like he knows how to use his body to make a play. I'm a Saints fan and know how players like Colston and Moore stay valuable.

Even that report mentions how he's always covered, and how it could pose a serious problem. You do make a good point about trust, but there have been several reports the last few days about how much Brady already trusts Thompkins.

I'm suggesting that he's ahead of Boyce and little else. Everything is fluid and the education begins once the games start.

 

[Young 8]

Did Boyce play tonight ?

 

[ShaHBucks]

Did Boyce play tonight ?

He was wide open for a TD and Mallet missed him badly.

 

[Young 8]

Did Boyce play tonight ?

He was wide open for a TD and Mallet missed him badly.

Ah, thanks

 

[Kenny Powers]

 

[ShaHBucks]

Anyone notice how much bigger Dobson Looks?

 

[Faust]

Patriots release receiver Michael Jenkins

 

[ShaHBucks]

Good news for Dobson.

 

[JHuber77]

Good news for Dobson.

Or Thompkins

 

[Faust]

Good news for Dobson.

Or Thompkins

or both of them.

 

[Anarchy99]

For all the talk of how different the Pats receiving options are now, lost in all that is how young this unit is going to be. They are insanely young:

Amendola - 27

Edelman - 27

Thompkins - 25

Gronkowski - 24

Sudfeld - 24

Vereen - 24

Boyce - 22

Dobson - 22

If things work out, BB is going to look like a genius again. Overall I think they got much younger and faster. In 3 years they went from having their key receivers in their 30s (Moss, Branch, Welker, Lloyd) to now having their entire receiving corps 5-10 years younger. The fact that NE can stay competitive when many other teams go into rebuilding mode to changeover players is somewhat amazing. They don't rebuild, they just reload.

Once these guys get on the same page, I think NE will unleash the next iteration of their offense which will offer new challenges for defensive coordinators, only this time with quicker personnel (even if they are not sprinters). There is no film to study, no tendencies to work from, and no established stars to cheat on in coverage. By the end of the season, I would suspect the offense will be humming again. And if the Bray/Pats window is closing, they should have continuity moving forward and not have to worry about having to replace pieces over the next few years.

Of course, things may not go as smoothly in the interim, and maybe that does come to bite them in the butt. But given their early schedule being a little soft, I still think with a little improvement on defense they are still a 12-4 team, even with the rampant turnover of offensive skill players.

 

[Faust]

New targets not slowing Brady

It's early, but New England's revamped receiving corps looks promising

By John Clayton | ESPN.com

Excerpt:

2. The young receivers:

The debate during the dual practices of the Patriots and Eagles was whether the success of the Patriots' passing offense was more due to the solid play of the young receivers or the poor play of the Eagles' defense. Regardless, Brady has to be excited about what he witnessed. Drafting wide receivers has been a long-term problem for the Patriots. The last drafted receiver who succeeded as a long-term starter was Deion Branch, who was taken in 2002. From 2003 through 2012, the Pats used four No. 2 or No. 3 draft choices on wide receivers and went 0-for-4. To succeed with Brady, a receiver not only has to run precise routes, but he has to think the way Brady thinks. That isn't easy. Brady has developed a deep playbook of successful plays since 2001. Though offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels doesn't have an overly complicated scheme, it's up to the receivers to win Brady's confidence. If they don't, they don't get the ball and they become former Patriots. Dobson, a second-round pick, is off to a great start. He's a big receiver with good hands and decent speed. He was unstoppable against the Eagles Wednesday. Boyce, a fourth-round choice, excelled on some of the shorter routes. The big surprise was Thompkins, who's clearly going to make the team. He was a promising receiver at the University of Tennessee who left after the departure of Lane Kiffin. He had some off-the-field issues after the move that lowered his stock. His body is similar to Dobson's, and he looks almost as fast. Still, don't jump to too many early conclusions. Looking good in the preseason is one thing. Carrying it over to the regular season when Brady is very demanding is another.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I don't think you can count on Gronk and Amendola to survive the season. They are both prone to missing games. If they, I think Edelman and Vereen will shine. They know the system much better than the rooks and newbs. They will most likely be great spot starts here and there.

Ugh, not this again. Stop already. They are no more prone to injury than any other WR or TE.

Meh. Gronk has had 4 surgeries this offseason and Amendola plays with too much abandon for a guy his size.

Edelman gets hurt a lot, too, and he has never shown he can stand up to the pressure of taking a lot of hits over the course of a full season.

 

[BroadwayG]

For all the talk of how different the Pats receiving options are now, lost in all that is how young this unit is going to be. They are insanely young:

Amendola - 27

Edelman - 27

Thompkins - 25

Gronkowski - 24

Sudfeld - 24

Vereen - 24

Boyce - 22

Dobson - 22

If things work out, BB is going to look like a genius again. Overall I think they got much younger and faster. In 3 years they went from having their key receivers in their 30s (Moss, Branch, Welker, Lloyd) to now having their entire receiving corps 5-10 years younger.

and Tebow is only 26

 

[ChainsawU]

Odds on the Patriots receiving corps becoming more confusing and inconsistent than their RBBC?

 

[Run It Up]

Odds on the Patriots receiving corps becoming more confusing and inconsistent than their RBBC?

Im sorry, but when did their RB situation become confusing?

 

[Phantom Knight]

If things work out, BB is going to look like a genius again.

I think BB gets a bit too much credit sometimes and perhaps a bit too much blame at others. Certainly, the Patriots recent wr drafts have been abysmal. However. You just get the sense that this time they hit the homerun ball with 3 future fixtures. I'd be happy right now to have all 3 of the young pups on my dynasty squad.

 

[We Tigers]

I still think they would have been wiser to just take Patterson instead of trading down, but that's what they do.