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Pats fans take the cake! It goes way beyond these boards (1 Viewer)

:popcorn: :excited: :lmao: :lmao:

Some of those comments are hilarious. Half the people posting are non Pats fans just doing it to make fun of those posting. It really is surprising how stupid the average football fan is. I didn't think there were people in this country that actually believed that the time shown on the Fox score bar was the official time.

 
Seriously, those comments on the petition are hilarious. The serious ones are even funnier than the ones made in jest. Although the best so far is.

207. Tuc K. Rule Remember me?

 
I hate Pats fans but you can't lump them all together.
AB, I'm not trying to do that at all. That's why I said it in my OP.It is just hilarious to see some of this stuff happen. It happens every year, I'm sure, but these fans can't seem to accept that the better team won that day.
 
I was bored last night and was surfing around and found a Pats fan forum... seems like an even split, maybe 60/40 between logical "congrats to the Giants" fans and complete tool jobs that remind us why Pats fans have become, as a group, perhaps the most annoying in sports.

Giants were holding on every play, blah blah blah. Refs were all against the Pats, this is how its always been ( :hifive: )

Great stuff to read.

 
:shrug: :cry: :cry:

I could see the Seahawks complaining a few years back vs. the Steelers. NE lost fair and square.

 
I'm glad to see that many of the comments are taking the petition as seriously as it deserves to be taken.

964. ted kennedy: who put this bridge here? 961. beaver cleaver: gee wally,do you really think they cheated?
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:shrug: :cry: :cry: I could see the Seahawks complaining a few years back vs. the Steelers. NE lost fair and square.
Considering I thought it was the best job an official crew has done in the big game since I've been watching, yeah there really isn't anything to argue about. Most of the fans who are complaining don't know the rules of football.
 
:cry: :cry: :cry: I could see the Seahawks complaining a few years back vs. the Steelers. NE lost fair and square.
Considering I thought it was the best job an official crew has done in the big game since I've been watching, yeah there really isn't anything to argue about. Most of the fans who are complaining don't know the rules of football.
I agree. This was a really well officiated game. This was a great game and all the greater because there was no contraversy via the refs. Thats saying a lot in a game of this magnitude- and its not like they were sitting on their flags either, the Pats took some dumb penalties in this game that really killed some drives. I haven't really heard anyone mention that factor with all the hoopla at the end of the game, but a couple less penalties in the first half and I think the Pats may well have put this one away early.
 
I commented the other day to the guys in the office that the officiating was amazing. Never saw another game called so well. It should be the last thing you complain about.

 
I commented the other day to the guys in the office that the officiating was amazing. Never saw another game called so well. It should be the last thing you complain about.
agreed. I didn't notice anything that was a blantant call not called or a call that shouldn't have been called. They stayed out of the way and did an excellent job.
 
Wow. I don't know what is funnier to read... the page one responses from Pats fans who are serious or the last page responses from people making fun of them.

 
LOL

There's a Pats fan on Sirius radio talking about that slide show right now with all the holding.

Who is it here? Fess up!

 
As a Pats fan, this is embarassing.

Take the loss for what it was... A determined opponent that won the 1:1 battles and won the game. I never thought I'd see Patriots nation taking their lead from Raider fans. :mellow:

 
868. Bill Belichick - Hey guys, I just wanted to say that as the coach of the New England Patriots, I think that...whoops, one second left. Gotta run!!!!886. Jessica Simpson - Circle yes or no: Who has a bigger ######, me or Tom Brady?
:yes: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: 868 is clearly the best so far.
 
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Wooohhhhh- I just read that petition and they do have a point. The clock was totally wonky at about 1:40- i was screaming bloody murder so bad i barely registered the dropped interception. But somebody mentioned it was just the Fox TV clock, and not the official time, which I bought. If indeed the clock on the field was stopped at 1:22 like it was on TV and then not started when the ball was snapped- and then 6 second popped back on (all that did happen), I have to say that was an inexcuseable screw up by the crew. I don't know that it changed the game outcome (it may well have eventually given the Pats their last chance), but regardless it influenced the game and the way everything happened afterwards. Its just unforgiveable that the clock should stop for no apparently reason, and especially for that long.

Here's a link to the drive.

Watch the tape at 3:55, there is 1:40 on the game clock when they start winding. Jacobs gets the first down and the game clock is stopped at 1:22 (properly) however there is no measurement. At tape time 4:23, the ref signals the first down and the clock SHOULD wind. Instead that snap is at tape time 4:50, and the game clock reads 1:28! Instead of winding 27 seconds, they added 6! Now the play runs, Eli scrambles, and the clock never starts. The play ends at tape time 5:00 and Coughlin calls a time out. The game clock reads 1:20. Essentially 37 seconds have passed in real time, while 2 seconds have gone off the game clock, with no time outs or play stoppages. The Giants netted 35 seconds (or you could argue the Patriots netted 35 seconds at the end of the game). Regardless, thats absolutely inexcuseable for the last drive of the Superbowl.

Can anybody confirm that the clock we see on television is linked to the game clock?

 
Wooohhhhh- I just read that petition and they do have a point. The clock was totally wonky at about 1:40- i was screaming bloody murder so bad i barely registered the dropped interception. But somebody mentioned it was just the Fox TV clock, and not the official time, which I bought. If indeed the clock on the field was stopped at 1:22 like it was on TV and then not started when the ball was snapped- and then 6 second popped back on (all that did happen), I have to say that was an inexcuseable screw up by the crew. I don't know that it changed the game outcome (it may well have eventually given the Pats their last chance), but regardless it influenced the game and the way everything happened afterwards. Its just unforgiveable that the clock should stop for no apparently reason, and especially for that long.

Here's a link to the drive.

Watch the tape at 3:55, there is 1:40 on the game clock when they start winding. Jacobs gets the first down and the game clock is stopped at 1:22 (properly) however there is no measurement. At tape time 4:23, the ref signals the first down and the clock SHOULD wind. Instead that snap is at tape time 4:50, and the game clock reads 1:28! Instead of winding 27 seconds, they added 6! Now the play runs, Eli scrambles, and the clock never starts. The play ends at tape time 5:00 and Coughlin calls a time out. The game clock reads 1:20. Essentially 37 seconds have passed in real time, while 2 seconds have gone off the game clock, with no time outs or play stoppages. The Giants netted 35 seconds (or you could argue the Patriots netted 35 seconds at the end of the game). Regardless, thats absolutely inexcuseable for the last drive of the Superbowl.

Can anybody confirm that the clock we see on television is linked to the game clock?
Sign the petiton then!! :lol:
 
Wooohhhhh- I just read that petition and they do have a point. The clock was totally wonky at about 1:40- i was screaming bloody murder so bad i barely registered the dropped interception. But somebody mentioned it was just the Fox TV clock, and not the official time, which I bought. If indeed the clock on the field was stopped at 1:22 like it was on TV and then not started when the ball was snapped- and then 6 second popped back on (all that did happen), I have to say that was an inexcuseable screw up by the crew. I don't know that it changed the game outcome (it may well have eventually given the Pats their last chance), but regardless it influenced the game and the way everything happened afterwards. Its just unforgiveable that the clock should stop for no apparently reason, and especially for that long.

Here's a link to the drive.

Watch the tape at 3:55, there is 1:40 on the game clock when they start winding. Jacobs gets the first down and the game clock is stopped at 1:22 (properly) however there is no measurement. At tape time 4:23, the ref signals the first down and the clock SHOULD wind. Instead that snap is at tape time 4:50, and the game clock reads 1:28! Instead of winding 27 seconds, they added 6! Now the play runs, Eli scrambles, and the clock never starts. The play ends at tape time 5:00 and Coughlin calls a time out. The game clock reads 1:20. Essentially 37 seconds have passed in real time, while 2 seconds have gone off the game clock, with no time outs or play stoppages. The Giants netted 35 seconds (or you could argue the Patriots netted 35 seconds at the end of the game). Regardless, thats absolutely inexcuseable for the last drive of the Superbowl.

Can anybody confirm that the clock we see on television is linked to the game clock?
Once again it amazes me that there are people out there that don't understand the idea of an official time keeper. There is an official who keeps the time! It has nothing to do with the stadium crew and even less to do with the time on the TV. In the case of Brandon Jacobs first down, they refs called for stoppage so they could determine whether it was a first down or not. The clock continued to run after the head ref called for the stoppage, but obviously the official time keeper stopped his watch.That is why it took so long to get the clock running again. When the official time keeper has a different time than the stadium clock, the ref keeps the play stopped until it is fixed. When he wound his arm to signal the clock to start, it did.

Wow, there should be classes that new football fans can take to understand the rules better.

 
Wow, there should be classes that new football fans can take to understand the rules better.
Kid, i've forgotten more football than you're likely to ever learn. Watch the tape- the clock is never corrected. Play is stopped, the clock is stopped, the Giants snap the ball, the clock remains stopped, there is a timeout, a new play starts.. essentially the clock is never corrected and the Giants score with 35 seconds left, Pats run their plays and the game ends at 0 seconds.Watch the tape and you tell me when the clock catches up.
 
Wow, there should be classes that new football fans can take to understand the rules better.
Kid, i've forgotten more football than you're likely to ever learn. Watch the tape- the clock is never corrected. Play is stopped, the clock is stopped, the Giants snap the ball, the clock remains stopped, there is a timeout, a new play starts.. essentially the clock is never corrected and the Giants score with 35 seconds left, Pats run their plays and the game ends at 0 seconds.Watch the tape and you tell me when the clock catches up.
:excited: I haven't been accused of being that in a while.I watched the tape. It doesn't matter what the TV clock says. Like I said, there is an official timekeeper. Usually a TV crew has someone in charge of keeping their clock consistent with changes made on the scoreboard in the stadium. That doesn't always occur immediately, which would be the reason that the clock adds 6 seconds after the play started(basically the Fox crew was behind a bit).

 
And to think people were griping when Bill Polian asked the Competition Committee to have the referees enforce rules already on the books...

Petition to have final 1:40 reviewed

Giantscheated.com LOL

I know this is not a representation of all Pats fans, but come on!
I read that petition for about one minute and 40 seconds before my eyes glazed over and I fell asleep in a bowl of corn flakes. What is the point? They wanted more time on the clock when Belichick left the field at the end of the game?

 
Wow, there should be classes that new football fans can take to understand the rules better.
Kid, i've forgotten more football than you're likely to ever learn. Watch the tape- the clock is never corrected. Play is stopped, the clock is stopped, the Giants snap the ball, the clock remains stopped, there is a timeout, a new play starts.. essentially the clock is never corrected and the Giants score with 35 seconds left, Pats run their plays and the game ends at 0 seconds.Watch the tape and you tell me when the clock catches up.
:thumbup: I haven't been accused of being that in a while.I watched the tape. It doesn't matter what the TV clock says. Like I said, there is an official timekeeper. Usually a TV crew has someone in charge of keeping their clock consistent with changes made on the scoreboard in the stadium. That doesn't always occur immediately, which would be the reason that the clock adds 6 seconds after the play started(basically the Fox crew was behind a bit).
:thumbup: Ive seen this happen on several occassions throughout the years. The TV clocks are never official.

 
I watched the tape. It doesn't matter what the TV clock says. Like I said, there is an official timekeeper. Usually a TV crew has someone in charge of keeping their clock consistent with changes made on the scoreboard in the stadium. That doesn't always occur immediately, which would be the reason that the clock adds 6 seconds after the play started(basically the Fox crew was behind a bit).
Thats my question- did the tv clock ever match up with the game clock. The ONLY way it works out is if the TV clock was 35 seconds slow before all the shananigans begin. The bottom line is that with 1:22 seconds left in the game, 1:57 seconds worth of real time elapsed with no play stoppage.
 
Sometimes the TV clock may be a few seconds ahead of the official game clock. When this happens, they may freeze the clock until the two are in sync.

 
Wow, there should be classes that new football fans can take to understand the rules better.
Kid, i've forgotten more football than you're likely to ever learn. Watch the tape- the clock is never corrected. Play is stopped, the clock is stopped, the Giants snap the ball, the clock remains stopped, there is a timeout, a new play starts.. essentially the clock is never corrected and the Giants score with 35 seconds left, Pats run their plays and the game ends at 0 seconds.Watch the tape and you tell me when the clock catches up.
:thumbup: I haven't been accused of being that in a while.I watched the tape. It doesn't matter what the TV clock says. Like I said, there is an official timekeeper. Usually a TV crew has someone in charge of keeping their clock consistent with changes made on the scoreboard in the stadium. That doesn't always occur immediately, which would be the reason that the clock adds 6 seconds after the play started(basically the Fox crew was behind a bit).
:thumbup: Ive seen this happen on several occassions throughout the years. The TV clocks are never official.
And yet i've never seen a game end with -35 seconds left on the clock. Its not like soccer where nobody is really sure when the game is going to end. The TV clock reaches 00 and the game ends, so assumedly they should be linked. My point is at no time is there a correction to the TV clock made, except to ADD 6 seconds. This cant be right because not only did the clock not start after Jacobs 1st down, but A WHOLE PLAY went off without the clock running. But watch the entire rest of the game and you will never see 35 seconds suddenly deducted to make up for it. So again, logic dictates that unless Fox was 35 seconds behind BEFORE the mess, the clock was never righted.

 
I wonder what those particular Patriots fans would think if Rams fans dissected Super Bowl 36 or Colts fans dissected the AFC title game following the '03 season.

 
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It's official. There's never going to be another close Super Bowl in which people don't blame it on the officiating. The age of whining is upon us.

 
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I'd like to reiterate that i dont think the clock issue changed the outcome of the game or taints the Giants victory in any way.

But- i defy anyone to watch the last Giants drive with an eye on the clock and tell me how the math works out. All i'm saying is that is inexcuseable and COULD have ruined the end of the game.

 
It's official. There's never going to be another close Super Bowl in which people don't blame it on the officiating. The age of whining is upon us.
It's true. With the technology available these days ordinary folks can now get nearly every frame of every game, enlarge it, etc. to prove their points. On nearly every play there are potential penalties that go uncalled in the playoffs though it's amplified by a factor of 100.
 
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It's official. There's never going to be another close Super Bowl in which people don't blame it on the officiating. The age of whining is upon us.
It's true. With the technology available these days ordinary folks can now get nearly every frame of every game, enlarge it, etc. to prove their points. On nearly every play there are potential penalties that go uncalled in the playoffs though it's amplified by a factor of 100.
And God forbid the announcer disagrees with the call/non-call on the field - then it's armageddon the next day as millions of sheep take up the "cause."
 
It's time the netwroks give the fans what they need.

No TV clock, no first & ten line, all the tech you've got now, gone.

If the Pats fan I know whines when I see him this weekend, it's not going to be pretty.

 
I'd like to reiterate that i dont think the clock issue changed the outcome of the game or taints the Giants victory in any way.But- i defy anyone to watch the last Giants drive with an eye on the clock and tell me how the math works out. All i'm saying is that is inexcuseable and COULD have ruined the end of the game.
Are you seriously under the assumption that there was a :35 second mistake,and BB is standing on the sidelines clueless? If there was any coach that would be throwing a tizzy I would think it would be him.
 
I signed it. Those last 80 or so seconds were very shady. If this happened to your team you wouldn't be happy.

 
I'd like to reiterate that i dont think the clock issue changed the outcome of the game or taints the Giants victory in any way.But- i defy anyone to watch the last Giants drive with an eye on the clock and tell me how the math works out. All i'm saying is that is inexcuseable and COULD have ruined the end of the game.
Are you seriously under the assumption that there was a :35 second mistake,and BB is standing on the sidelines clueless? If there was any coach that would be throwing a tizzy I would think it would be him.
Again- go prove me wrong. What I assume is immaterial. The FACTS say there is a 35 second discrepency in the game film. Note- this has nothing to do with timekeeping- no matter who is keeping the clock, more time physically ellapsed during play than can be accounted for in the allotted tme for an NFL game, specifically the last 2 minutes. All I can say is go watch the last minute and a half with a stopwatch, there is a 35 second lapse and it has nothing to do with a few seconds here or there for a timeout etc... a running play ended and the clock was not restarted until the end of the next play. The clock was never corrected before the end of the game, and the game ended at 00.
 
I'd like to reiterate that i dont think the clock issue changed the outcome of the game or taints the Giants victory in any way.

But- i defy anyone to watch the last Giants drive with an eye on the clock and tell me how the math works out. All i'm saying is that is inexcuseable and COULD have ruined the end of the game.
Are you seriously under the assumption that there was a :35 second mistake,and BB is standing on the sidelines clueless? If there was any coach that would be throwing a tizzy I would think it would be him.
Again- go prove me wrong. What I assume is immaterial. The FACTS say there is a 35 second discrepency in the game film. Note- this has nothing to do with timekeeping- no matter who is keeping the clock, more time physically ellapsed during play than can be accounted for in the allotted tme for an NFL game, specifically the last 2 minutes. All I can say is go watch the last minute and a half with a stopwatch, there is a 35 second lapse and it has nothing to do with a few seconds here or there for a timeout etc... a running play ended and the clock was not restarted until the end of the next play. The clock was never corrected before the end of the game, and the game ended at 00.
Bill Belichick thinks it ended at :01.
 
Some people have WAY too much time on their hands.

That PowerPoint stuff is so grainy I feel like I'm looking at the nonenhanced Zapruder footage...

 

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