Pete King says don't expect any paradigm shifts in Pittsburgh (1 Viewer)

[Urinal Mint]

Pulled from this morning's Monday Morning Quarterback:

From the looks of Bruce Arians' retooled offense, not much will change in Pittsburgh. It still will be a pounding, ball-control team, but it might be a little more varied. More three- and four-wide stuff on logical run downs, and other wrinkles to disguise running back Willie Parker. But at the end of the day, this team will still run 55 percent of the time.

So... same song, different verse?

 

[Sabertooth]

Do you know what paradigm means? It doesn't make much sense in this post.

 

[Urinal Mint]

I'm fairly certain I've used it correctly in this context. I'm not sure why semantics are at stake here. I mean, we're talking about Unstoppably Fast Will Parker. Like the old Reebok cross-trainers that Emmitt Smith wore, Parker has an unfair advantage.

Do you know what paradigm means? It doesn't make much sense in this post.

 

[PahtyTom]

Pitt threw more than they ran last year. Atlanta was the only team that ran 55% of the time in the NFL. Peter King is an idiot. I thank him and Salsbury for putting thoughts like that into my leaguemate's heads, though.

 

[hephner]

Peter King?

Nuff said.

 

[JaxBill]

I don't know how he can say that. In the Steelers first 5 possessions, they had 17 pass plays and 13 runs. By that point, they got up 14-0 and just tried to take the air ouf of the ball.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20070805_NO@PIT

 

[RudeDog]

I don't know how he can say that. In the Steelers first 5 possessions, they had 17 pass plays and 13 runs. By that point, they got up 14-0 and just tried to take the air ouf of the ball.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20070805_NO@PIT

This is preseason.... the very first game. You don't "take the air out of the ball", you work on what you want to work on and evaluate players.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

I think after watching that game last night I am going to bump up Big Ben and Holmes. I think that O will produce pretty big passing numbers and those two are going to be the main two who benifit.

Bens #'s will go up

Holmes #'s will go up

Wards #'s stay about the same

 

[perry147]

I don't know how he can say that. In the Steelers first 5 possessions, they had 17 pass plays and 13 runs. By that point, they got up 14-0 and just tried to take the air ouf of the ball.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20070805_NO@PIT

This is preseason.... the very first game. You don't "take the air out of the ball", you work on what you want to work on and evaluate players.

This is the correct answer. This first preseason game is used by NFL coaches to evaluate talent and not practice a new scheme.

 

[JaxBill]

I don't know how he can say that. In the Steelers first 5 possessions, they had 17 pass plays and 13 runs. By that point, they got up 14-0 and just tried to take the air ouf of the ball.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20070805_NO@PIT

This is preseason.... the very first game. You don't "take the air out of the ball", you work on what you want to work on and evaluate players.

This is the correct answer. This first preseason game is used by NFL coaches to evaluate talent and not practice a new scheme.

Well then apparently, he wanted to see the first and second-stringers pass the ball more and the other fighting for roster spots run the ball more.

 

[The Ref]

Bens #'s will go upHolmes #'s will go upWards #'s stay about the same

Plese explian why you think all the boats will rise except largest one?

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Bens #'s will go upHolmes #'s will go upWards #'s stay about the same

Plese explian why you think all the boats will rise except largest one?

You think Ward's is the largest boat? Well for starters, Wards numbers have been on a steady decline since his 2002 season. I think the #'s he puts up will stay about the same and he will again put up about WR 15 kind of stats (1000 yds 10 TD's, and that's better than his last 3 years). Santonio Holmes in his rookie season put up over 800 yds and 2 TD's. His #'s should and will rise more than the ones he put up his rookie season. In fact, Holmes only started the last 4 games of the season. If you want to look at the #'s from the last 4 games I think you will see that the 31 year old WR will be quickly replaced by the 23 year old WR. Now I know Ward missed week 14 so we will go back and use his week 12 stats before he got hurt. Wards last 4 games:4 - 33 yds - 0 TD's4 - 59 yds - 0 TD's8 - 79 yds - 0 TD's5 - 51 yds - 0 TD'stotal: 21 catches for 222 yds and 0 TD'sHolmes last 4 games:4 - 81 yds - 0 TD's3 - 25 yds - 0 TD's5 - 90 yds - 0 TD's4 - 124 yds - 1 TDtotal: 16 catches for 320 yds and 1 TDSo as you can see the tide is definitly turning it Pitt. Ward will continue to fade away (or at least put up the same #'s) and Holmes will start to take over as the #1 WR in Pitt under thier new offense (which seems to pass more).Oh, and the other guy, Big Ben. He put up his best stats, #'s wise, in his career just last season. And again, with the change of offense I fully expect him to put up better #'s this year that any other year. Besides, he is only 25 and entering his 4th year. So his boat should continue to rise as well.

 

[kurtrudder]

I'm fairly certain I've used it correctly in this context. I'm not sure why semantics are at stake here. I mean, we're talking about Unstoppably Fast Will Parker. Like the old Reebok cross-trainers that Emmitt Smith wore, Parker has an unfair advantage.

Do you know what paradigm means? It doesn't make much sense in this post.

aren't words like 'paradigm' and 'pro-active' just buzz words that dumb people use to sound important?

 

[AnonymousBob]

I'm fairly certain I've used it correctly in this context. I'm not sure why semantics are at stake here. I mean, we're talking about Unstoppably Fast Will Parker. Like the old Reebok cross-trainers that Emmitt Smith wore, Parker has an unfair advantage.

Do you know what paradigm means? It doesn't make much sense in this post.

aren't words like 'paradigm' and 'pro-active' just buzz words that dumb people use to sound important?

Why do people need to call certain words dumb simply because they don't understand them? It's as though you should be looked down upon for attempting to expand your vocabulary.That said, Pete King doesn't have a great track record when it comes to making predictions. I realize no "expert" will be correct all the time but his misses are anything but infrequent.

 

[StuntRock]

I'm fairly certain I've used it correctly in this context. I'm not sure why semantics are at stake here. I mean, we're talking about Unstoppably Fast Will Parker. Like the old Reebok cross-trainers that Emmitt Smith wore, Parker has an unfair advantage.

Do you know what paradigm means? It doesn't make much sense in this post.

aren't words like 'paradigm' and 'pro-active' just buzz words that dumb people use to sound important?

I thought it was something you put on your face before you went to bed at night.

 

[mcd]

I'm fairly certain I've used it correctly in this context. I'm not sure why semantics are at stake here. I mean, we're talking about Unstoppably Fast Will Parker. Like the old Reebok cross-trainers that Emmitt Smith wore, Parker has an unfair advantage.

Do you know what paradigm means? It doesn't make much sense in this post.

aren't words like 'paradigm' and 'pro-active' just buzz words that dumb people use to sound important?

I thought it was something you put on your face before you went to bed at night.

That would be the pro-active thing to do.

 

[bonesman]

I'm fairly certain I've used it correctly in this context. I'm not sure why semantics are at stake here. I mean, we're talking about Unstoppably Fast Will Parker. Like the old Reebok cross-trainers that Emmitt Smith wore, Parker has an unfair advantage.

Do you know what paradigm means? It doesn't make much sense in this post.

aren't words like 'paradigm' and 'pro-active' just buzz words that dumb people use to sound important?

I thought it was something you put on your face before you went to bed at night.

a paradigm = 20 cents

 

[Godsbrother]

It all depends on how the season goes. I could see the Steelers open up a bit early and then go to pounding the ball if they get the lead. It is a formula that worked for Cowher and Tomlin seems like the kind of guy that would follow the sme philosophy. However if the Steeler get behind then like any team they'll have to throw more.

As far as Peter King goes I don't think that anyone expects the Steelers to go to the run & shoot so I say "Meh". I think if asked Tomlin, like most head coaches in the NFL, would probably tell you he wanst to have a balanced attack. It is the ebb and flow of the games that pushes the ratio one way or the other.

 

[nygiants56]

Peter King? Nuff said.

he sucks.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

It all depends on how the season goes. I could see the Steelers open up a bit early and then go to pounding the ball if they get the lead. It is a formula that worked for Cowher and Tomlin seems like the kind of guy that would follow the sme philosophy. However if the Steeler get behind then like any team they'll have to throw more.As far as Peter King goes I don't think that anyone expects the Steelers to go to the run & shoot so I say "Meh". I think if asked Tomlin, like most head coaches in the NFL, would probably tell you he wanst to have a balanced attack. It is the ebb and flow of the games that pushes the ratio one way or the other.

This is not news. Tomlin has already said his goal is "to win by attrition" - meaning by running the ball and stopping the run. People have been hearing that "Arians plans to use more 4 WR sets with the QB under center" and assuming that means more passing, but this is erroneous. Most people don't realize that Pittsburgh was at the top of the NFL in 4 WR sets last year, they just ran them out of the shotgun. If anything, they're more likely to run the ball out of a 4-wide set with Roethlisberger under center than they were to run a draw or delay out of the gun.

 

[poopdawg]

I'm fairly certain I've used it correctly in this context. I'm not sure why semantics are at stake here. I mean, we're talking about Unstoppably Fast Will Parker. Like the old Reebok cross-trainers that Emmitt Smith wore, Parker has an unfair advantage.

Do you know what paradigm means? It doesn't make much sense in this post.

aren't words like 'paradigm' and 'pro-active' just buzz words that dumb people use to sound important?

I thought it was something you put on your face before you went to bed at night.

a paradigm = 20 cents

Do you know what a quota is???[/butthead] Uh, 25 cents? [/butthead]

 

[The Ref]

Bens #'s will go up

Holmes #'s will go up

Wards #'s stay about the same

Plese explian why you think all the boats will rise except largest one?

You think Ward's is the largest boat? Well for starters, Wards numbers have been on a steady decline since his 2002 season. I think the #'s he puts up will stay about the same and he will again put up about WR 15 kind of stats (1000 yds 10 TD's, and that's better than his last 3 years).

Santonio Holmes in his rookie season put up over 800 yds and 2 TD's. His #'s should and will rise more than the ones he put up his rookie season.

In fact, Holmes only started the last 4 games of the season. If you want to look at the #'s from the last 4 games I think you will see that the 31 year old WR will be quickly replaced by the 23 year old WR. Now I know Ward missed week 14 so we will go back and use his week 12 stats before he got hurt.

Wards last 4 games:

4 - 33 yds - 0 TD's

4 - 59 yds - 0 TD's

8 - 79 yds - 0 TD's

5 - 51 yds - 0 TD's

total: 21 catches for 222 yds and 0 TD's

Holmes last 4 games:

4 - 81 yds - 0 TD's

3 - 25 yds - 0 TD's

5 - 90 yds - 0 TD's

4 - 124 yds - 1 TD

total: 16 catches for 320 yds and 1 TD

So as you can see the tide is definitly turning it Pitt. Ward will continue to fade away (or at least put up the same #'s) and Holmes will start to take over as the #1 WR in Pitt under thier new offense (which seems to pass more).

Oh, and the other guy, Big Ben. He put up his best stats, #'s wise, in his career just last season. And again, with the change of offense I fully expect him to put up better #'s this year that any other year. Besides, he is only 25 and entering his 4th year. So his boat should continue to rise as well.

Good stuff there Mr. Peterson, I didn't realize there was "a mini changing of the guard" at the end of the season. But do you think that it also had to do with the injury to Ward as much as anything else? I will have to have another look. My only point was if Pittsburgh is going to have increased production in the passing game across the board this year I would think that Ward would also see an increase in production. And with your highlight above you seem to agree top the tune of 50-100 more yards and a handfull of TD's. For what its worth, we are on the same page for his projection numbers more or less (I have him at 1075/9). If Ward does put up 1000/10 that puts him in the bottom of the top ten WR, and in my eyes represents a good value. And for what it's worth, baring injury I think 950/7 is his floor and 1200/12 albeit a stretch is also very possible if they put the ball up as much as people are saying.

I have Ward targeted this year.