Peter Warrick (1 Viewer)

[doowain]

Ocho posted this video on his twitter. Said he had moves no one ever has been able to duplicate. To this day. I know the injuries played a part, but going by what you see in these highlights he should've been a megastar. I remember him here in Cincy. But not like this.

COMMENT EDITED TO GET THREAD BACK ON TRACK. YAY.

As we look forward to rookie drafts and discussion it's worth remembering that elite athletic ability doesn't always translate (for whatever reason) in the NFL.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

I don't think you do.

 

[doowain]

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

I don't think you do.

You are incorrect. Move along.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Ocho posted this video on his twitter. Said he had moves no one ever has been able to duplicate. To this day. I know the injuries played a part, but going by what you see in these highlights he should've been a megastar. I remember him here in Cincy. But not like that.

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

As we look forward to rookie drafts and discussion it's worth remembering that elite athletic ability doesn't always translate (for whatever reason) in the NFL.

Holy moly.... Did he really not translate? or was he just lazy and injury prone?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

I don't think you do.

You are incorrect. Move along.

He never even won the Heisman. He's not close to the best college football player ever. What Warrick is best known for is buying $500 worth of cloths for $20. Now that is elusive.

 

[doowain]

Ocho posted this video on his twitter. Said he had moves no one ever has been able to duplicate. To this day. I know the injuries played a part, but going by what you see in these highlights he should've been a megastar. I remember him here in Cincy. But not like that.

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

As we look forward to rookie drafts and discussion it's worth remembering that elite athletic ability doesn't always translate (for whatever reason) in the NFL.

Good question. His moves are absolutely jaw dropping. I love Blackmon. Loved Dez coming out. But those guys just pale in comparison to the raw natural athleticism.

 

[doowain]

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

I don't think you do.

You are incorrect. Move along.

He never even won the Heisman. He's not close to the best college football player ever. What Warrick is best known for is buying $500 worth of cloths for $20. Now that is elusive.

Neat.

 

[Raider Nation]

He had one of the best Jimmy legs around.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

The reason talent didn't translate was because he was small and slow. When your 5'10-5'11 and run in the ~4.6s, talent is unlikely to be enough. Plus it's not like he did nothing in the NFL, 4 straight seasons of 50+ receptions ain't terrible.

 

[Sea Duck]

He had the moves but not the speed. He ran a 4.58/40 at the combine.

 

[Sea Duck]

The reason talent didn't translate was because he was small and slow. When your 5'10-5'11 and run in the ~4.6s, talent is unlikely to be enough. Plus it's not like he did nothing in the NFL, 4 straight seasons of 50+ receptions ain't terrible.

He would have been a great #3 WR on a Super Bowl contender. Instead, he was forced to be a #1 WR for a cellar-dweller. Such is life.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

I don't think you do.

You are incorrect. Move along.

He never even won the Heisman. He's not close to the best college football player ever. What Warrick is best known for is buying $500 worth of cloths for $20. Now that is elusive.

Neat.

Waiting to see all these quotes where they talk about Warrick being the best college football player ever. Bo Jackson? Herschel Walker? Earl Campbell? Doak Walker? Barry Sanders?

Nope, Peter Warrick. ool

Was he talented? Yeah, sure was. But he was small and he was a terrible route runner as well as being known for being lazy. He didn't translate because he didn't have the skill set or the will.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

He had one of the best Jimmy legs around.

/kramer

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

Warrick is right there with Randy Moss in competition for the best college WR I have ever seen (I am 26). He was absolutely unreal in college.

I think his college career would be more fondly remembered if it wasn't for the whole Dillard's incident.

 

[cvnpoka]

hes no aj green

also, im fairly sure reggie bush's highlight tape will put that to shame

 

[Doctor Detroit]

also, im fairly sure reggie bush's highlight tape will put that to shame

Darren Sproles' as well.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I remember him running circles around the Gators. Bad memories.

 

[doowain]

it's worth remembering that elite athletic ability doesn't always translate (for whatever reason) in the NFL.

The only thing about this thread that has me baffled is that the above has you stumped...

Stumped? I think you are reading that wrong.

 

[EBF]

It's hard to look at those highlights and not be biased by hindsight, but he doesn't look that spectacular. He was very good at those quick initial moves to make people miss. Other than that he was fairly ordinary by NFL WR standards. I guess it's not surprising that he had his best pro success in the slot because that's where his elusiveness probably would've been the most useful.

The thing about Warrick is that he was pretty slow for a smaller WR. I think he only ran in the low 4.6 range. In the right system he maybe could've had some Donald Driver or Derrick Mason type of seasons, but I don't think he was ever going to be that dominant #1 pro WR.

 

[Fensalk]

I was gonna say that watching that film of his college days, he looks slower than a quality NFL WR. But I see its been mentioned already. Also I've seen WRs try moves like Warrick did in college but in the NFL defenders usually are better tacklers and just wrap them up.

 

[jbz]

Warrick would do better in today's NFL. Put him on the Pats in Welker's role and he probably is more successful. He was a joy to watch in college, but I wouldn't put him on the short list of the best college players ever. That's an insult to someone like Barry Sanders who treated college like a video game. He was the best college player ever in my lifetime.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

That's an insult to someone like Barry Sanders who treated college like a video game. He was the best college player ever in my lifetime.

Barry Sanders and Marshall Faulk were both just ridiculous. They made Hershel Walker and Bo Jackson look boring by comparison, IMO.Peter Warrick was very good. He was small and quick like Desmond Howard, but not as good a route-runner as Howard. He was perhaps more elusive than Howard, but not as elusive as Reggie Bush. And he wasn't as fast as either Howard or Bush. But there's no shame in any of that. As a college player, he was very good.

 

[Bri]

Ocho posted this video on his twitter. Said he had moves no one ever has been able to duplicate. To this day. I know the injuries played a part, but going by what you see in these highlights he should've been a megastar. I remember him here in Cincy. But not like that.

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

As we look forward to rookie drafts and discussion it's worth remembering that elite athletic ability doesn't always translate (for whatever reason) in the NFL.

As many have said, you're far off with the best college player statement.After Rice, and for a good long while, teams mistakenly used the term game speed in a way to show a player is faster than their 40 time. In my opinion, Warrick was one of the larger mistakes in this vein.

Warrick would have been a surprisingly great basketball player-awesome first step, and his second and third were usually sweet moves. Height would have been an issue but...eh well. He was on a bad team, like real bad. I thought he was fantastic at catching a punt and instantly making something happen when others would just get clocked by a big hit. (again those first three steps) He didn't have burners to turn on the speed after he broke free. Someone was about to catch up to him. Laterally, he was far faster and in my memory he ran more reverses than any WR I can remember. (Not bothering at PFR, but maybe it's just what stands out to me and is overblown here)

He did have soft hands and an impressive catching ability.

I think it was just his straight ahead speed that ended his career so quick.

I saw Welker comment. I doubt it. He, however, couldn't take the hits Welker does. Welker must take a dozen or two "oh my" hits on his way to 100 catches. He's fearless and one of the tougher WRs in the league. I'd be more likely to compare him to Edelman than Welker if we were going that route.

 

[Bri]

That's an insult to someone like Barry Sanders who treated college like a video game. He was the best college player ever in my lifetime.

Barry Sanders and Marshall Faulk were both just ridiculous. They made Hershel Walker and Bo Jackson look boring by comparison, IMO.Peter Warrick was very good. He was small and quick like Desmond Howard, but not as good a route-runner as Howard. He was perhaps more elusive than Howard, but not as elusive as Reggie Bush. And he wasn't as fast as either Howard or Bush. But there's no shame in any of that. As a college player, he was very good.

Never did understand how Howard was such a bad NFL WR. He seemed more along the lines of Tim Brown II and was only just a return man.

 

[dgreen]

Barry Sanders and Marshall Faulk were both just ridiculous.

I remember staying up to watch SDSU games here on the east coast to watch Faulk as a freshman. Amazing.

 

[dgreen]

That's an insult to someone like Barry Sanders who treated college like a video game. He was the best college player ever in my lifetime.

Barry Sanders and Marshall Faulk were both just ridiculous. They made Hershel Walker and Bo Jackson look boring by comparison, IMO.Peter Warrick was very good. He was small and quick like Desmond Howard, but not as good a route-runner as Howard. He was perhaps more elusive than Howard, but not as elusive as Reggie Bush. And he wasn't as fast as either Howard or Bush. But there's no shame in any of that. As a college player, he was very good.

Never did understand how Howard was such a bad NFL WR. He seemed more along the lines of Tim Brown II and was only just a return man.

Darrell Green has mentioned that he could tell on day one of training camp that Howard wasn't going to make it as a WR because he couldn't get off the line.

 

[Warpig]

Ocho posted this video on his twitter. Said he had moves no one ever has been able to duplicate. To this day. I know the injuries played a part, but going by what you see in these highlights he should've been a megastar. I remember him here in Cincy. But not like that.

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

As we look forward to rookie drafts and discussion it's worth remembering that elite athletic ability doesn't always translate (for whatever reason) in the NFL.

I'm a FSU fan (grew up in Florida) so I'll just make a few comments.His speed seemed pretty decent. He ran away from a lot of defenders.

He was a helluva athlete and did a good job at making defenders miss. But I also saw a lot of horrible missed tackles due to poor effort, poor fundamentals, and poor angles.

I wish FSU had more players like him (as far as football goes...not his actions off the field).

And is it just me, or does it seem like the Chiefs are on the ugly side of a lot of highlight reels?

 

[todisco1]

Warrick would do better in today's NFL. Put him on the Pats in Welker's role and he probably is more successful.

Warrick was a terrific college player, but I find it a bit hard to believe he'd be more successful than Welker. How much more successful would he be? He'd be setting records for catches.

 

[Sweet Love]

Warrick is right there with Randy Moss in competition for the best college WR I have ever seen (I am 26). He was absolutely unreal in college. I think his college career would be more fondly remembered if it wasn't for the whole Dillard's incident.

I think if he was good in the NFL, people will have forgotten the Dillard's incident. When I think of Lav Coles (and I am a Jets fan), I think of 10 different things before his role in that (and in fact, he was the guy who took the fall and got suspended). I always thought Warrick was miscast as a #1 WR, but if he could have stayed healthy and Ocho came in with him, he could have put up Housh numbers.

 

[AmosMoses]

Warrick isn't even close to the best college player ever. He'd be lucky to be in the top 200. Put the crack pipe down.

 

[Kirby]

The reason talent didn't translate was because he was small and slow. When your 5'10-5'11 and run in the ~4.6s, talent is unlikely to be enough. Plus it's not like he did nothing in the NFL, 4 straight seasons of 50+ receptions ain't terrible.

He would have been a great #3 WR on a Super Bowl contender. Instead, he was forced to be a #1 WR for a cellar-dweller. Such is life.

This... the Bengals used him wrong.

 

[SCT]

I watched him play indoor football in Fairbanks, Alaska recently. That's when you know you've hit rock bottom.

 

[Don Quixote]

Warrick is right there with Randy Moss in competition for the best college WR I have ever seen (I am 26). He was absolutely unreal in college.

I think his college career would be more fondly remembered if it wasn't for the whole Dillard's incident.

I think if he was good in the NFL, people will have forgotten the Dillard's incident. When I think of Lav Coles (and I am a Jets fan), I think of 10 different things before his role in that (and in fact, he was the guy who took the fall and got suspended). I always thought Warrick was miscast as a #1 WR, but if he could have stayed healthy and Ocho came in with him, he could have put up Housh numbers.

I agree with the bolded. He got hurt right when Ochocinco was coming into his own, and just before the Carson Palmer era. I think any WR would have had trouble putting up great numbers with Akili Smith and Jon Kitna behind center and Darnay Scott as #2 option.

 

[Wadsworth]

As a lifelong Florida State fan I would rank Peter Warrick near the top of the list of the best Seminoles. But oddly, he and a few other guys I would put on that list did not translate well to the NFL for various reason. Along with Warrick; Charlie Ward, Andre Wadsworth, Marvin Jones and Ron Simmons all were amazing in the garnet and gold and did not approach that level in the NFL.

Footnote: I am still mad that Randy Moss had to smoke that joint. Randy Moss and Peter Warrick together would have been sick.

 

[LittlePhatty]

As we look forward to rookie drafts and discussion it's worth remembering that elite athletic ability doesn't always translate (for whatever reason) in the NFL.

In his particular case I think it's fairly easy to see - in the NFL everyone is fast, and if you rely that much on juking around you'll just get swarmed by defenders. Instead of trying to take every touch to the house, sometimes you have to just take the 5 yards ahead of you when they are there.

 

[FF Ninja]

Lots of hindsight here. The guy was talented. All the more reason why you win 9 times out of 10 when trading a dynasty draft pick for proven NFL talent. Even if you guess right, it can still take a few years for rookies to develop (see DMC).

 

[doowain]

Leave it to the SP to focus on one non-critical statement from the OP. I had seen his name mentioned before as one of the best college players ever. I'm not saying I think that. Just that I'd seen it.

It may have been one of those "The best college players to never realize their potential in the NFL" lists. I dunno.

This thread wasn't meant to be me debating his place among the all-time great college players. It was meant to be a thread about a pretty fun highlight reel I'd just seen. Nothing more, nothing less.

Something else I noticed. The NFL/NCAA shoulder pads have really come a long way since even the late 90s. Good Lord he looks like a linebacker running around out there.

 

[karmarooster]

NO mention of Tebow as the greatest college player ever??

2 national championships, 1 heisman, and the SEC record for rushing TDs?

 

[Doug B]

In his particular case I think it's fairly easy to see - in the NFL everyone is fast, and if you rely that much on juking around you'll just get swarmed by defenders. Instead of trying to take every touch to the house, sometimes you have to just take the 5 yards ahead of you when they are there.

This is what held back Reggie Bush in New Orleans. He got better gradually at taking what was there ... looks like he's finally there in Miami.

 

[doowain]

NO mention of Tebow as the greatest college player ever??2 national championships, 1 heisman, and the SEC record for rushing TDs?

SIGH.

 

[AmosMoses]

Leave it to the SP to focus on one non-critical statement from the OP. I had seen his name mentioned before as one of the best college players ever. I'm not saying I think that. Just that I'd seen it.It may have been one of those "The best college players to never realize their potential in the NFL" lists. I dunno.This thread wasn't meant to be me debating his place among the all-time great college players. It was meant to be a thread about a pretty fun highlight reel I'd just seen. Nothing more, nothing less.Something else I noticed. The NFL/NCAA shoulder pads have really come a long way since even the late 90s. Good Lord he looks like a linebacker running around out there.

He wasn't even the best player named "Warrick".

 

[doowain]

Leave it to the SP to focus on one non-critical statement from the OP. I had seen his name mentioned before as one of the best college players ever. I'm not saying I think that. Just that I'd seen it.It may have been one of those "The best college players to never realize their potential in the NFL" lists. I dunno.This thread wasn't meant to be me debating his place among the all-time great college players. It was meant to be a thread about a pretty fun highlight reel I'd just seen. Nothing more, nothing less.Something else I noticed. The NFL/NCAA shoulder pads have really come a long way since even the late 90s. Good Lord he looks like a linebacker running around out there.

He wasn't even the best player named "Warrick".

HEY CAN YOU PLEASE LIST ALL OF THE PLAYERS IN THE HISTORY OF THE NCAA THAT ARE BETTER THAN HIM? I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY ROUND OUT THIS THREAD. AWESOME THX.

 

[AmosMoses]

Leave it to the SP to focus on one non-critical statement from the OP. I had seen his name mentioned before as one of the best college players ever. I'm not saying I think that. Just that I'd seen it.It may have been one of those "The best college players to never realize their potential in the NFL" lists. I dunno.This thread wasn't meant to be me debating his place among the all-time great college players. It was meant to be a thread about a pretty fun highlight reel I'd just seen. Nothing more, nothing less.Something else I noticed. The NFL/NCAA shoulder pads have really come a long way since even the late 90s. Good Lord he looks like a linebacker running around out there.

He wasn't even the best player named "Warrick".

HEY CAN YOU PLEASE LIST ALL OF THE PLAYERS IN THE HISTORY OF THE NCAA THAT ARE BETTER THAN HIM? I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY ROUND OUT THIS THREAD. AWESOME THX.

Don't get mad at me because you said something dumb.

 

[doowain]

Leave it to the SP to focus on one non-critical statement from the OP. I had seen his name mentioned before as one of the best college players ever. I'm not saying I think that. Just that I'd seen it.It may have been one of those "The best college players to never realize their potential in the NFL" lists. I dunno.This thread wasn't meant to be me debating his place among the all-time great college players. It was meant to be a thread about a pretty fun highlight reel I'd just seen. Nothing more, nothing less.Something else I noticed. The NFL/NCAA shoulder pads have really come a long way since even the late 90s. Good Lord he looks like a linebacker running around out there.

He wasn't even the best player named "Warrick".

HEY CAN YOU PLEASE LIST ALL OF THE PLAYERS IN THE HISTORY OF THE NCAA THAT ARE BETTER THAN HIM? I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY ROUND OUT THIS THREAD. AWESOME THX.

Don't get mad at me because you said something dumb.

Once again...seeing as how you can't seem to comprehend the difference between the statement of one's opinion and the mentioning of someone else's opinion, I'll break it down for you.I never said that I believed he was one of the greatest college players ever. The whole premise of this thread was that I saw a video of someone I don't think I ever saw play in college and I thought the highlights were impressive. I'm not old enough to remember players from the mid to late 90s. I didn't care too much about college football back then. I've already admitted to most likely remembering the "list" he was on incorrectly. It seems that all websites/blogs/etc. put out "best of" or "greatest ever" lists regularly and they often have some unique spin. I don't remember the exact nature of the lists I've seen him on. Hell, one of them could have been a "The best NCAA players ever on a PS2 game" list for all I remember. I'm not sure why posters in here always feel the need to take a somewhat fun thread and go on some wild tangent absent of the original premise of the thread. Yet we need 15 Rob Gronkowski and Cam Newton threads a day. Lots of fun around here.

 

[AmosMoses]

Don't say dumb stuff.

 

[doowain]

Don't say dumb stuff.

It's clear to me from this (in addition to your posts elsewhere) that this is who you are. So, good luck with that.

 

[PIK95]

Leave it to the SP to focus on one non-critical statement from the OP. I had seen his name mentioned before as one of the best college players ever. I'm not saying I think that. Just that I'd seen it.It may have been one of those "The best college players to never realize their potential in the NFL" lists. I dunno.This thread wasn't meant to be me debating his place among the all-time great college players. It was meant to be a thread about a pretty fun highlight reel I'd just seen. Nothing more, nothing less.Something else I noticed. The NFL/NCAA shoulder pads have really come a long way since even the late 90s. Good Lord he looks like a linebacker running around out there.

He wasn't even the best player named "Warrick".

HEY CAN YOU PLEASE LIST ALL OF THE PLAYERS IN THE HISTORY OF THE NCAA THAT ARE BETTER THAN HIM? I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY ROUND OUT THIS THREAD. AWESOME THX.

Don't get mad at me because you said something dumb.

Once again...seeing as how you can't seem to comprehend the difference between the statement of one's opinion and the mentioning of someone else's opinion, I'll break it down for you.I never said that I believed he was one of the greatest college players ever. The whole premise of this thread was that I saw a video of someone I don't think I ever saw play in college and I thought the highlights were impressive. I'm not old enough to remember players from the mid to late 90s. I didn't care too much about college football back then. I've already admitted to most likely remembering the "list" he was on incorrectly. It seems that all websites/blogs/etc. put out "best of" or "greatest ever" lists regularly and they often have some unique spin. I don't remember the exact nature of the lists I've seen him on. Hell, one of them could have been a "The best NCAA players ever on a PS2 game" list for all I remember. I'm not sure why posters in here always feel the need to take a somewhat fun thread and go on some wild tangent absent of the original premise of the thread. Yet we need 15 Rob Gronkowski and Cam Newton threads a day. Lots of fun around here.

True.

 

[Popinski]

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever.

No way man.

 

[Wadsworth]

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

I don't think you do.

You are incorrect. Move along.

He never even won the Heisman. He's not close to the best college football player ever. What Warrick is best known for is buying $500 worth of cloths for $20. Now that is elusive.

Do you think your two statements are related?

 

[C-Bound]

NO mention of Tebow as the greatest college player ever??2 national championships, 1 heisman, and the SEC record for rushing TDs?

Best I've ever seen I think. I'm 41 fwiw.