Peter Warrick (1 Viewer)

[Doctor Detroit]

I like how Doowain says some pretty outrageous things, can't back it up, gets defensive, then gets snarky with anyone who doesn't agree with him. Well done, Jim Gray.

 

[Warhogs]

I bought into Warrick hook, line and sinker when he came out as a rookie.

 

[Chaka]

It's still shocking to me that so many bit time college programs (LSU, Miami, Nebraska etc) only recruited Marshall Faulk to play DB. San Diego is still grateful for their collective whiff.

 

[jbz]

Warrick would do better in today's NFL. Put him on the Pats in Welker's role and he probably is more successful.

Warrick was a terrific college player, but I find it a bit hard to believe he'd be more successful than Welker. How much more successful would he be? He'd be setting records for catches.

Sorry, it came out wrong. I meant Warrick would have been more successful than what he really produced. Not more successful than Welker.

 

[doowain]

I like how Doowain says some pretty outrageous things, can't back it up, gets defensive, then gets snarky with anyone who doesn't agree with him. Well done, Jim Gray.

I'm cool with someone not agreeing with me. But when you disagree with an opinion that wasn't even mine and make it mine...that I have a problem with. Is that so hard to comprehend. I'm beginning to see how you got to 40K posts.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

I dunno, I think Peter Warrick may have done quite well if offenses then were running hte kinds of plays like they do in MIN to give Percy Harvin the ball out in space. He may not have been the fastest in a straight-line dash, but there is no question his elusive nature would have made him a terror if they ran less traditional plays for him.

But I do agree with the statement that in today's NFL, too much shuckin' and jivin' is going to get you swarmed. Warrick looks like a great punt returner in today's NFL, but not sure those skills translate as seamlessly to the NFL level as they do in college.

 

[doowain]

I dunno, I think Peter Warrick may have done quite well if offenses then were running hte kinds of plays like they do in MIN to give Percy Harvin the ball out in space. He may not have been the fastest in a straight-line dash, but there is no question his elusive nature would have made him a terror if they ran less traditional plays for him.But I do agree with the statement that in today's NFL, too much shuckin' and jivin' is going to get you swarmed. Warrick looks like a great punt returner in today's NFL, but not sure those skills translate as seamlessly to the NFL level as they do in college.

Completely agree.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I'm beginning to see how you got to 40K posts.

Neat

 

[Demian]

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

I don't think you do.

You are incorrect. Move along.

He never even won the Heisman. He's not close to the best college football player ever. What Warrick is best known for is buying $500 worth of cloths for $20. Now that is elusive.

Do you think your two statements are related?

Username: Wadsworth

 

[HellToupee]

I'm beginning to see how you got to 40K posts.

Neat

So far the P.O.T.D.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Cool highlights but I don't see his style translating to the nfl at all. Punt return hell yea

 

[HellToupee]

funny I was thinking about Blackman & starting a thread on Hart Lee Dykes

 

[Sea Duck]

It's still shocking to me that so many bit time college programs (LSU, Miami, Nebraska etc) only recruited Marshall Faulk to play DB. San Diego is still grateful for their collective whiff.

I doubt that college (or the city) cares about Marshall Faulk, but San Diego State is grateful for sure.

 

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1 catch / 11 yards

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Ocho posted this video on his twitter. Said he had moves no one ever has been able to duplicate. To this day. I know the injuries played a part, but going by what you see in these highlights he should've been a megastar. I remember him here in Cincy. But not like that.

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

As we look forward to rookie drafts and discussion it's worth remembering that elite athletic ability doesn't always translate (for whatever reason) in the NFL.

Where did you see this?You want people to post a list better but why don't you post where you saw this statement made.

 

[Chaka]

It's still shocking to me that so many bit time college programs (LSU, Miami, Nebraska etc) only recruited Marshall Faulk to play DB. San Diego is still grateful for their collective whiff.

I doubt that college (or the city) cares about Marshall Faulk, but San Diego State is grateful for sure.

Please. I didn't say USD and I am pretty sure you know that. Faulk is a legend here.

 

[doowain]

Ocho posted this video on his twitter. Said he had moves no one ever has been able to duplicate. To this day. I know the injuries played a part, but going by what you see in these highlights he should've been a megastar. I remember him here in Cincy. But not like that.

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

As we look forward to rookie drafts and discussion it's worth remembering that elite athletic ability doesn't always translate (for whatever reason) in the NFL.

I never asked anyone to post a list of "better college players". Far from it. I was posting a video in case someone else might enjoy it. Like I did.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

I'm still wondering where you ALWAYS see Peter Warrick mentioned as one of, if not THE best college player ever.

Just show me one list where this was mentioned

 

[Wadsworth]

I do not think Peter Warrick is the best college football player ever or even close to it. But this thread is an example of how lack of success in the NFL can make fans forget how dominate players were in college. Archie Griffin was an amazing college player, certainly should be in the conversation for best college football player ever and his name rarely comes up in these types of discussions. Peter Warrick was very good and likely would have won the Heisman if he could have stayed out of trouble. But a lackluster NFL career has tarnished his college career, which is not really fair or accurate.

 

[cstu]

I dunno, I think Peter Warrick may have done quite well if offenses then were running hte kinds of plays like they do in MIN to give Percy Harvin the ball out in space. He may not have been the fastest in a straight-line dash, but there is no question his elusive nature would have made him a terror if they ran less traditional plays for him.But I do agree with the statement that in today's NFL, too much shuckin' and jivin' is going to get you swarmed. Warrick looks like a great punt returner in today's NFL, but not sure those skills translate as seamlessly to the NFL level as they do in college.

Harvin is successful because he runs a 4.3, not a 4.6 like Warrick did. Amazing as Warrick's moves were in college he simply lacked the speed and explosiveness for the NFL.

 

[cstu]

The reason talent didn't translate was because he was small and slow. When your 5'10-5'11 and run in the ~4.6s, talent is unlikely to be enough. Plus it's not like he did nothing in the NFL, 4 straight seasons of 50+ receptions ain't terrible.

He would have been a great #3 WR on a Super Bowl contender. Instead, he was forced to be a #1 WR for a cellar-dweller. Such is life.

That's a good point - he simply wasn't a #1 WR in the NFL and expectations were unreasonable. Had he actually slipped more to the Steelers I think he would have made a good #2 opposite Hines Ward.

 

[ArcticEdge]

I watched him play indoor football in Fairbanks, Alaska recently. That's when you know you've hit rock bottom.

Haha SCT, I just came in here to post this. He didnt even stand out as head and shoulders above the other players.

 

[doowain]

I'm still wondering where you ALWAYS see Peter Warrick mentioned as one of, if not THE best college player ever.Just show me one list where this was mentioned

Do I really need to address this again?Can't you just focus on the point of the thread? I can PM you the point if you'd like as your first reply suggests you have no clue.

 

[dgreen]

I'm still wondering where you ALWAYS see Peter Warrick mentioned as one of, if not THE best college player ever.Just show me one list where this was mentioned

Do I really need to address this again?Can't you just focus on the point of the thread? I can PM you the point if you'd like as your first reply suggests you have no clue.

If you haven't noticed, people are now just . The more you reply, the more they . Move on.

 

[Wadsworth]

I'm still wondering where you ALWAYS see Peter Warrick mentioned as one of, if not THE best college player ever.Just show me one list where this was mentioned

Do I really need to address this again?Can't you just focus on the point of the thread? I can PM you the point if you'd like as your first reply suggests you have no clue.

If you haven't noticed, people are now just . The more you reply, the more they . Move on.

That is pretty much it, pick one sentence out of a post and fixate on that. As long as you reply some people will feel the need to call you on anything they disagree with.

 

[doowain]

I'm still wondering where you ALWAYS see Peter Warrick mentioned as one of, if not THE best college player ever.Just show me one list where this was mentioned

Do I really need to address this again?Can't you just focus on the point of the thread? I can PM you the point if you'd like as your first reply suggests you have no clue.

If you haven't noticed, people are now just . The more you reply, the more they . Move on.

That is pretty much it, pick one sentence out of a post and fixate on that. As long as you reply some people will feel the need to call you on anything they disagree with.

Yeah. I know. My OCD nature hates to leave replies unanswered. And I edited the OP for any new readers.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I'm still wondering where you ALWAYS see Peter Warrick mentioned as one of, if not THE best college player ever.Just show me one list where this was mentioned

Do I really need to address this again?Can't you just focus on the point of the thread? I can PM you the point if you'd like as your first reply suggests you have no clue.

If you haven't noticed, people are now just . The more you reply, the more they . Move on.

That is pretty much it, pick one sentence out of a post and fixate on that. As long as you reply some people will feel the need to call you on anything they disagree with.

That's not it at all and I'm sure you can differentiate between cherry picking and honing in an obvious untruth. He made a very bogus statement in his initial post, then got defensive when people called him out on it after he couldn't back it up. Basically the whole premise of the thread got derailed because the guy either doesn't know what he's talking about (likely) or is attention starved.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I do always see him mentioned as one of the, if not THE, best college players ever. Now I see why.

I don't think you do.

You are incorrect. Move along.

Update?

 

[doowain]

I'm still wondering where you ALWAYS see Peter Warrick mentioned as one of, if not THE best college player ever.Just show me one list where this was mentioned

Do I really need to address this again?Can't you just focus on the point of the thread? I can PM you the point if you'd like as your first reply suggests you have no clue.

If you haven't noticed, people are now just . The more you reply, the more they . Move on.

That is pretty much it, pick one sentence out of a post and fixate on that. As long as you reply some people will feel the need to call you on anything they disagree with.

That's not it at all and I'm sure you can differentiate between cherry picking and honing in an obvious untruth. He made a very bogus statement in his initial post, then got defensive when people called him out on it after he couldn't back it up. Basically the whole premise of the thread got derailed because the guy either doesn't know what he's talking about (likely) or is attention starved.

It's now funny to me that you can't let it go.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

It's now funny to me that you can't let it go.

It's even funnier you removed the statement yet still are defending it.

 

[doowain]

It's now funny to me that you can't let it go.

It's even funnier you removed the statement yet still are defending it.

I'm defending it by saying it's funny you can't let it go? What? Your logic is airtight.ETA: I'll keep my OCD at bay and mark this as my last response to you. Good day.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

He was amazing in college, but there were always doubts about how his skills would translate to the NFL, IIRC. I agree with others who think he'd be more successful in today's NFL.

Charles Rogers is the WR I thought was about as can't miss as they come.

 

[doowain]

He was amazing in college, but there were always doubts about how his skills would translate to the NFL, IIRC. I agree with others who think he'd be more successful in today's NFL.Charles Rogers is the WR I thought was about as can't miss as they come.

I remember there being a huge buzz about him when he was drafted here, but, as I said before, I don't really remember much from him in college. Looking at it from that angle (seeing his highlights AFTER his career), it leaves you wondering why he was a relative failure. Especially given his draft position.Had I seen him in college first and followed the combine/measurables of a player then as I do today, I'd probably have a much different viewpoint on him (ie - I didn't realize he was so slow for a smallish WR).ETA: I was playing FF during the Charles Rogers debacle and I was in that camp myself.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

It's now funny to me that you can't let it go.

It's even funnier you removed the statement yet still are defending it.

I'm defending it by saying it's funny you can't let it go? What? Your logic is airtight.ETA: I'll keep my OCD at bay and mark this as my last response to you. Good day.

OCD><ADD

 

[QuizGuy66]

This thread brings back bad memories :( Just glad the Bengals didn't shy away from WR with THIS year's #4 overall pick - I know the specter of Warrick made me very nervous about it.

-QG

 

[doowain]

This thread brings back bad memories :( Just glad the Bengals didn't shy away from WR with THIS year's #4 overall pick - I know the specter of Warrick made me very nervous about it.-QG

I heard that.

 

[Rushmore]

also, im fairly sure reggie bush's highlight tape will put that to shame

Darren Sproles' as well.

Good call. Sproles' highlight reel is one of my favorites of all time.

 

[domvin]

Warrick is right there with Randy Moss in competition for the best college WR I have ever seen (I am 26). He was absolutely unreal in college.

I think his college career would be more fondly remembered if it wasn't for the whole Dillard's incident.

I think if he was good in the NFL, people will have forgotten the Dillard's incident. When I think of Lav Coles (and I am a Jets fan), I think of 10 different things before his role in that (and in fact, he was the guy who took the fall and got suspended). I always thought Warrick was miscast as a #1 WR, but if he could have stayed healthy and Ocho came in with him, he could have put up Housh numbers.

I agree with the bolded. He got hurt right when Ochocinco was coming into his own, and just before the Carson Palmer era. I think any WR would have had trouble putting up great numbers with Akili Smith and Jon Kitna behind center and Darnay Scott as #2 option.

Good call.He hurt his knee and tried to come back for the kansas city game, i believe they were undefeated at the time, it was a hyped up matchup. He was never the same after the injury.

 

[Hybrid]

Though his top-end speed was definitely a contributing factor, I think the biggest reasons for his failure are the awful situation he was in and then getting injured right when the situation was improving.

 

[zed2283]

Peter Warrick was a fantastic college player.

In my 2nd year of dynasty, I drafted him #1 overall (ahead of guys like T.Jones, S.Alexander, & J.Lewis).

 

[Cookiemonster]

Still my favorite.

Song is cool, and I've never seen so many plays over with as soon as they had begun.