Peyton Manning - Any Concerns About Fantasy Playoffs? (1 Viewer)

[cstu]

As great as Peyton has been - IMO it's the greatest 4 game stretch I've seen by a QB in my lifetime - how concerned are you about him being rested down the stretch if they go 11-0 through week 12?

Week 15 is a great matchup against the Chargers but it may be in the snow. At the Chiefs are week 13, vs. the Titans week 14 and at the Texans week 16.

 

[msudaisy26]

As great as Peyton has been - IMO it's the greatest 4 game stretch I've seen by a QB in my lifetime - how concerned are you about him being rested down the stretch if they go 11-0 through week 12?

Week 15 is a great matchup against the Chargers but it may be in the snow. At the Chiefs are week 13, vs. the Titans week 14 and at the Texans week 16.

I would be concerned about rest if they do lose a game. Peyton won't want the rest but it is possible that Fox would rest him after the half in those games if they have nothing to play for.

 

[cstu]

As great as Peyton has been - IMO it's the greatest 4 game stretch I've seen by a QB in my lifetime - how concerned are you about him being rested down the stretch if they go 11-0 through week 12?

Week 15 is a great matchup against the Chargers but it may be in the snow. At the Chiefs are week 13, vs. the Titans week 14 and at the Texans week 16.

I would be concerned about rest if they do lose a game. Peyton won't want the rest but it is possible that Fox would rest him after the half in those games if they have nothing to play for.

That's my thinking. If they beat the Pats and Chiefs weeks 10 and 11 are are undefeated then they almost certainly would have the bye sealed up. Weeks 13-17 look at worst 3-2 for them even if they rest Peyton at halftime.

 

[LargeMouthBass]

If my memory serves me correct, Peyton only played 1st half during the Fantasy Playoffs during his perfect regular season run when he was with the Colts.

So if things go the way Denver plans, Peyton won't play the full games during the Fantasy Playoffs, imo...

 

[Phenix]

If my memory serves me correct, Peyton only played 1st half during the Fantasy Playoffs during his perfect regular season run when he was with the Colts.

So if things go the way Denver plans, Peyton won't play the full games during the Fantasy Playoffs, imo...

All I know is that is a few months away and a lot can change between now and then.

 

[Pimpin Joe]

He's going to be on target for all kind of records, they won't bench him for any significant period of time imo. Likely he'll sit half way through the 4th quarter in games that are wrapped up, but he'll do his damage in the first 3 quarters anyway.

 

[need2know]

It helps the chiefs and pats are good. I think he's going to play through week 16

 

[steveski]

PLAYOFFS!?!?!?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Both Peyton and John Elway have been burned badly by resting too soon. Lets see if they make the same mistakes twice

(cost me FF championships as well)

 

[fightingillini]

IMO I wouldn't worry about it. You really can't. If you make your Fantasy Superbowl in Week 16 and Peyton carried you there, are you going to sit him for your backup QB because you fear he only plays 1/2 of a game? And BTW, Peyton's 1/2 of a game is still probably a 200 yard 2 TD game. That's worse case scenario.

There's a good chance DEN will be chasing history. If so, I wouldn't see Peyton resting. If they lost a game and have homefield locked up, then it's a plausible scenario.

But that leads to....... Peyton has a great chance of beating Brady's TD record and Brees' yardage record.

Finally, as others have said, resting too much can cost you big time in the playoffs. Football is a game of timing and repetition. Hard to keep it up if you're not playing.

 

[Shutout]

Both Peyton and John Elway have been burided badly by resting too soon. Lets see if they make the same mistakes twice

(cost me FF championships as well)

Worst fantasy burn I ever had was that Colts team that took the foot off the gas when they were perfect. I had an undefated fantasy season going and owned Wayne and Manning and they sat them.

To the OP point though, I guess it really depends on if you still have an archaic one and done playoff in your league. On any of those individual weeks, I can see it spelling doom but if you have some sort of multi-week or round robin crossing multiple weeks, I'd say you are ok.

 

[kutta]

I'm rooting for the pats and Kc to stay undefeated for as long as possible. Denver might not have anything wrapped up until week 16/17 anyway.

 

[Goldfinger007]

Denver is looking great right now, but I'm not so sure we should be putting a W next to the Chiefs just yet. That defense is just plain nasty. Peyton has been getting the ball out pretty fast, but I still think KC will be able to get hits on him and have guys in his face. Peyton doesn't do so well when that happens. I think KC will also be able to move the ball too and eat up clock with that short, efficient pass game and Smith's running ability. I just don't think anyone can afford to snooze on that team right now and they just seem to be getting better every week.

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Concerns yes but I'll worry about it then - not going to do anything rash ie Trade him or sit him in those weeks.

 

[Late225]

I think he has learned his lesson. When you don't play the final weeks of the season, you lose in the playoffs. I expect him to play.

 

[CalBear]

Finally, as others have said, resting too much can cost you big time in the playoffs. Football is a game of timing and repetition. Hard to keep it up if you're not playing.

Too bad New England rested everyone during their perfect season. Oh wait...

 

[ebsteelers]

Finally, as others have said, resting too much can cost you big time in the playoffs. Football is a game of timing and repetition. Hard to keep it up if you're not playing.

Too bad New England rested everyone during their perfect season. Oh wait...

NE made it to the Super Bowl they didnt lose cause of amount of rest.

If you start sitting guys in

Week 15 December 12th they play

Week 16 December 22nd.

Week 17 December 29th

Wildcard January 5th or 6?

Divison 12 or 13.

that would be almost be a month between real game action..

He plays all of week 16 and a bit of week 17

 

[CalBear]

Finally, as others have said, resting too much can cost you big time in the playoffs. Football is a game of timing and repetition. Hard to keep it up if you're not playing.

Too bad New England rested everyone during their perfect season. Oh wait...

NE made it to the Super Bowl they didnt lose cause of amount of rest.

Yes, you know, sometimes good teams lose in the playoffs and the Super Bowl.

 

[LawFitz]

Unless he breaks the TD record by week 16, we are safe. That said, he's on pace for 64 now, so maybe we aren't so safe...

 

[Shutout]

Finally, as others have said, resting too much can cost you big time in the playoffs. Football is a game of timing and repetition. Hard to keep it up if you're not playing.

Too bad New England rested everyone during their perfect season. Oh wait...

NE made it to the Super Bowl they didnt lose cause of amount of rest.

Yes, you know, sometimes good teams lose in the playoffs and the Super Bowl.

NE didn't rest either. They played that Week 17 game full tilt against the Giants.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

In leagues I dont have him, Im more worried about facing him come playoff time than him sitting

In league I have him in, well go Peyton!

 

[Ghost Rider]

It's way too early to be worrying about this. NE and KC are both 4-0 right now as well, and if the Broncos lose one of their games to KC or at NE, then it could be a fight to the finish for the 1 seed.

 

[CalBear]

Finally, as others have said, resting too much can cost you big time in the playoffs. Football is a game of timing and repetition. Hard to keep it up if you're not playing.

Too bad New England rested everyone during their perfect season. Oh wait...

NE made it to the Super Bowl they didnt lose cause of amount of rest.

Yes, you know, sometimes good teams lose in the playoffs and the Super Bowl.

NE didn't rest either. They played that Week 17 game full tilt against the Giants.

That's my point; good teams sometimes lose when they rest, and sometimes lose when they don't rest. I don't think there's any evidence that resting players weeks 16 and 17 makes teams more likely to lose, especially not once injury risk is considered.

 

[Legion of Doom]

Both Peyton and John Elway have been burned badly by resting too soon. Lets see if they make the same mistakes twice

(cost me FF championships as well)

They won't.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I think brees has actually outscored him the last 3 games

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Consensus is a funny thing.

Manning has beaten:

Baltimore (add factor of emotion heavy game at home), 2-2

NYG, 0-4

Oak, 1-3

PHI, 1-3

The Giants and Eagles have had some terrible defense so far this year.

He gets more patsies, before the bye including WAS & Jax.

Dallas should not put up much of a fight judging by what SD just did.

Week 7 @ Indy should be emotional and possibly challenging.

After the bye weeks 11-13 he plays KC, @ KC a 2nd time, and @ NE. And SD could be an actual team in the running, they could easily be 3-1 or even 4-0, and they loom with two games on the schedule.

Wk 14 TEN at home, I believe their pass defense can be pretty good.

Wk 16 @ Hou, that could be a tough one with their pass rush.

Wks 14-15 could be in some snow, maybe some cold weather, in Denver.

He's got a bit of a cake schedule, but there are some places there that he could definitely disappoint his owners at the wrong time. That may not take much; vs the Giants he "only" had 300 yards and 2 TDs, for FF teams that have been feasting and getting by on some of these mega games holes in their rosters could be exposed with just a "mediocre" (but still excellent football-wise) FF performance of say <25 points.

As for the AFCW the Broncs are no lock to win the division over KC at this rate. - And in the NFL playoffs he may run into trouble as well.

 

[Warrior]

Peyton for one half is better than any other QB in Fantasy not named Brees or Rodgers. Brady included.

 

[Warrior]

Consensus is a funny thing.

Manning has beaten:

Baltimore (add factor of emotion heavy game at home), 2-2

NYG, 0-4

Oak, 1-3

PHI, 1-3

The Giants and Eagles have had some terrible defense so far this year.

He gets more patsies, before the bye including WAS & Jax.

Dallas should not put up much of a fight judging by what SD just did.

Week 7 @ Indy should be emotional and possibly challenging.

After the bye weeks 11-13 he plays KC, @ KC a 2nd time, and @ NE. And SD could be an actual team in the running, they could easily be 3-1 or even 4-0, and they loom with two games on the schedule.

Wk 14 TEN at home, I believe their pass defense can be pretty good.

Wk 16 @ Hou, that could be a tough one with their pass rush.

Wks 14-15 could be in some snow, maybe some cold weather, in Denver.

He's got a bit of a cake schedule, but there are some places there that he could definitely disappoint his owners at the wrong time. That may not take much; vs the Giants he "only" had 300 yards and 2 TDs, for FF teams that have been feasting and getting by on some of these mega games holes in their rosters could be exposed with just a "mediocre" (but still excellent football-wise) FF performance of say <25 points.

As for the AFCW the Broncs are no lock to win the division over KC at this rate. - And in the NFL playoffs he may run into trouble as well.

For most of these games, he has coasted through the 1st half and pumped the breaks in the 2nd half. If he actually gets into a close game, he'll be full throttle for 4 qtrs and will put up better numbers, not worse.

 

[purestrength]

Fortunately, the Denver Broncos are not run by Bill Polian.

 

[Man of Zen]

I think brees has actually outscored him the last 3 games

I don't believe this has any effect on his playoff outlook whatsoever.

 

[zftcg]

Finally, as others have said, resting too much can cost you big time in the playoffs. Football is a game of timing and repetition. Hard to keep it up if you're not playing.

Too bad New England rested everyone during their perfect season. Oh wait...

NE made it to the Super Bowl they didnt lose cause of amount of rest.

Yes, you know, sometimes good teams lose in the playoffs and the Super Bowl.

NE didn't rest either. They played that Week 17 game full tilt against the Giants.

Yes, they waited until the Super Bowl against the Giants to rest

Seriously, this conversation comes up every year, and it never gets any less dumb. IT'S BEEN FOUR GAMES, PEOPLE! You know who was 4-0 at this time last year? The Cardinals!

We don't know if the Broncos are going to go 16-0, we don't know if Peyton's going to challenge the record, we don't know how good the rest of the conference is going to be, and we certainly don't know if it's going to snow on a random Sunday in December (it's Denver, not Siberia). We might as well be debating what to do if Peyton gets struck by lightning in Week 9, or mauled by a tiger that escaped from the zoo in Week 11.

But if it worries you so much that you can't sleep at night, here's a simple solution: Trade him for $0.90 on the dollar. I'm sure you'll find someone in your league who'll take that troublesome burden off your hands.

 

[kutta]

Finally, as others have said, resting too much can cost you big time in the playoffs. Football is a game of timing and repetition. Hard to keep it up if you're not playing.

Too bad New England rested everyone during their perfect season. Oh wait...

NE made it to the Super Bowl they didnt lose cause of amount of rest.

Yes, you know, sometimes good teams lose in the playoffs and the Super Bowl.

NE didn't rest either. They played that Week 17 game full tilt against the Giants.

Yes, they waited until the Super Bowl against the Giants to rest

Seriously, this conversation comes up every year, and it never gets any less dumb. IT'S BEEN FOUR GAMES, PEOPLE! You know who was 4-0 at this time last year? The Cardinals!

We don't know if the Broncos are going to go 16-0, we don't know if Peyton's going to challenge the record, we don't know how good the rest of the conference is going to be, and we certainly don't know if it's going to snow on a random Sunday in December (it's Denver, not Siberia). We might as well be debating what to do if Peyton gets struck by lightning in Week 9, or mauled by a tiger that escaped from the zoo in Week 11.

But if it worries you so much that you can't sleep at night, here's a simple solution: Trade him for $0.90 on the dollar. I'm sure you'll find someone in your league who'll take that troublesome burden off your hands.

So because we don't know we aren't supposed to talk about it? We really have no idea what is going to happen in the future, but still talk about it all the time.

How about we don't talk about any of the games this weekend because we don't know what will happen in those either. What the heck else are we supposed to do on a football message board but talk about what we think could happen in the future?

 

[craxie]

For most of these games, he has coasted through the 1st half and pumped the breaks in the 2nd half. If he actually gets into a close game, he'll be full throttle for 4 qtrs and will put up better numbers, not worse.

If it's a close game, it's more likely because the opposing defense is holding Manning back than that the opposing QB is matching Manning's current output.

 

[msudaisy26]

Peyton for one half is better than any other QB in Fantasy not named Brees or Rodgers. Brady included.

Right now, yes. 10 to 12 weeks from now who knows.

 

[tdhartis]

Peyton for one half is better than any other QB in Fantasy not named Brees or Rodgers. Brady included.

Right now, yes. 10 to 12 weeks from now who knows.

I tend to agree with Tony Dungy's sentiment:

"I’ll tell you what’s scary . . . [that] Peyton will be better in November. He’s still getting used to his receivers, I can tell you, the longer he works with guys, the better they’ll all be.’’

In 10-12 weeks this system we're currently praising may be a well-oiled machined compared to what it is now.

 

[Riffraff]

Don't worry about Peyton. Worry about getting a decent back-up with a good play-off schedule - just in case.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Peyton for one half is better than any other QB in Fantasy not named Brees or Rodgers. Brady included.

I thought this exact same thing a few years ago, and he didnt do squat in the game vs the Jets when they were going for an undefeated season and he sat in the 3rd quarter.

As you can tell i'm still bitter