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Peyton to Denver. The checklist.

Peyton wants to remain in the AFC. CHECK

I believe that the Manning family is serious about not wanting a Manning brother showdown unless it’s in the Super Bowl. If all options are equal, I think staying in the AFC is the tiebreaker.

Peyton wants to go to a team ready to compete for a playoff spot. CHECK

The Broncos are a young team on the rise, who made it to the final eight, with a QB that completed less than 50% of his throws. Good young defense that will get better after free agency and the draft this year. Good young receivers. Good offensive line with one of the best young left tackles in all of football. The AFC West is up for grabs. The addition of Peyton would make the Bronco’s the favorite to win the division and get at least one home game in the playoffs.

Peyton wants to run his offense. CHECK

This is where Denver has a real advantage over any other team courting him. No other team has proved that they are as egoless in how they go about winning football games than the Broncos have. No one other than Elway and Fox would have re-tooled their offense on the fly last season to try to accentuate the strengths of their QB. It’s unheard of and unprecedented. It they were willing to do that for Tebow, you don’t think they would do that same thing for Manning? Peyton could come in here run the same offense he’s been accustomed to running.

Peyton wants to bring along some of his side-kicks. CHECK

The Broncos need a third receiver…bring along Wayne. The Broncos need a pass catching tight end…bring along Clark. The weak link in the Bronco’s offensive line is at center…bring along Saturday.

Peyton wants to play in a warm weather city. CHECK

Denver gets a bad wrap for being a cold weather city. Yes it can and will snow some, but we only have a few really bad weather games a year, and it is just as likely to be in the 50’s in December as it is to be in the 20’s.

Here's what I should have posted initially:

Peyton wants to play in a warm weather city. CHECK..SORT OF

While you can't label Denver as a "warm weather city", the weather here in Denver in November and December isn't nearly as bad as most people think who don't live here. While it does snow, the snow doesn't stay long, and it is just as likely that the daytime temperature will be in the 60’s in December as it is to be in the 20’s

Here are some other things to consider:

Peyton was very happy and comfortable in Indianapolis. He doesn’t strike me as a big glitz type of guy. He and his family would be very happy and comfortable here in Denver, a city much like Indianapolis.

No other team can give him daily access to John Elway. I think Manning would relish the opportunity to work with someone of the stature and class of Elway.

Pat Bowlen runs a first class operation. Peyton will appreciate how things are done here in Denver.

And, let’s examine the Tebow factor. First off, they probably can’t both exist here on the same roster. Only bringing in someone of Mannings stature could make the rabid Tebow supporters agree that it’s time to move on. This gives Elway and crew the perfect out of a situation that they wish they had never been in in the first place. Cut your losses and trade Tebow to Jacksonville, where he belongs, for a third round draft pick and clear the decks for this being Peyton’s team.

— Bronco Fan aka Dynasty Greg

 
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Good thread. Makes sense, and I am already reading reports he was a bit turned off by the paparazzi treatment/helicopters in Miami. I think its Denver or KC personally. The Elway factor is HUGE though. I am sure those guys can jabber on about football forever and are similar personalities.

 
It would be hilarious if they traded Tebow to Jacksonville. Then they would have an issue every week on which terrible first round QB to start with no WR weapons.

 
I've never hear of Denver referred to as a warm weather city.
:goodposting: It's amazing what people will say to lie to themselves.

Avg Temps for DENVER

Jan 16

NOV 23

DEC 16

ETA: that's not Celsius
Here are the actual average high temperatures for Denver:

October: 66 degrees

November: 54 degrees

December: 46 degrees

And as I said, it's not unusual to have 60 degree days in December. Happens all the time.

 
Manning & Tebow are both CAA clients. Makes zero sense unless CAA brokers a deal to move Tebow to another team.

 
Manning & Tebow are both CAA clients. Makes zero sense unless CAA brokers a deal to move Tebow to another team.
I think the importance of the agent angle is over estimated. In the end, all agents want what's best for their individual clients and will make decisions based on what the client wants and not what is best for the agent.
 
Manning & Tebow are both CAA clients. Makes zero sense unless CAA brokers a deal to move Tebow to another team.
LOL. How much $$ has Manning made CAA over the years? I'm pretty sure he is free to do whatever he wants without worrying about upsetting another CAA client.
 
from twitter:

@JayGlazer

Manning chose Denver as his first visit bc he's familiar w people there like Elway and Fox. Wanted his 1st visit to be w ppl he knows well

@SI_PeterKing

Denver wants Manning "desperately,'' one competitor for Peyton tells me.

@SI_PeterKing

Now, people, understand this: Miami, Jets, Seattle and I'm sure 3 or 4 others want Manning "desperately'' too. Doesn't give Denver any edge.

 
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Oh, and another thing:

How ironic would it be if Denver received two of the best QB's to ever play the game from the Colts?

 
I've never hear of Denver referred to as a warm weather city.
:goodposting: It's amazing what people will say to lie to themselves.

Avg Temps for DENVER

Jan 16

NOV 23

DEC 16

ETA: that's not Celsius
that is the average low...big difference
The low temps happen in the very early hours of the morning. Last I checked, NFL games don't start at 5:00 a.m.
Are you still trying to make this argument? The record highs are the outliers. Random days. Not the norm. The average is the average. What you can most likely expect at that time of the year. Nov 23, Dec 19, Jan 19. On a funny side note, IPhones don't have the degree symbol

 
I've never hear of Denver referred to as a warm weather city.
:goodposting: It's amazing what people will say to lie to themselves.

Avg Temps for DENVER

Jan 16

NOV 23

DEC 16

ETA: that's not Celsius
that is the average low...big difference
The low temps happen in the very early hours of the morning. Last I checked, NFL games don't start at 5:00 a.m.
Are you still trying to make this argument? The record highs are the outliers. Random days. Not the norm. The average is the average. What you can most likely expect at that time of the year. Nov 23, Dec 19, Jan 19. On a funny side note, IPhones don't have the degree symbol
Okay, listing Denver as a warm weather city was probably not entirely correct, but I firmly submit that the weather in November and December isn't nearly as bad as people who don't live here think.

 
I've never hear of Denver referred to as a warm weather city.
Denver isn't as cold as people think. Yes, we get snow, but it melts quickly. This isn't Green Bay or Chicago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR7i_L2c12YLooks pretty warm.
Note I didn't say it never snows. To be fair, here's a youtube video showing a beautiful December day in Denver.
No one is saying Denver is never warm. I just don't think Denver is thought of as a "warm weather city." In the initial post, it says "Check" after Manning wanting to go to a warm weather city. Saying Denver isn't as cold as people think does not equal a warm weather city at all. Just semantics maybe. I think it would be cool for Manning to end up in Denver, though.
 
I've never hear of Denver referred to as a warm weather city.
Denver isn't as cold as people think. Yes, we get snow, but it melts quickly. This isn't Green Bay or Chicago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR7i_L2c12YLooks pretty warm.
Note I didn't say it never snows. To be fair, here's a youtube video showing a beautiful December day in Denver.
I agree, and I have already posted that I probably should not have labeled Denver as a warm weather city. It does amaze me that folks latch onto one thing though and ignore all the other points. My only point was that living and playing in Denver isn't as dreary as people who don't live here think. It's really beautiful most of the time.
 
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I've never hear of Denver referred to as a warm weather city.
Denver isn't as cold as people think. Yes, we get snow, but it melts quickly. This isn't Green Bay or Chicago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR7i_L2c12YLooks pretty warm.
Note I didn't say it never snows. To be fair, here's a youtube video showing a beautiful December day in Denver.
From what I've heard, Peyton loves to play golf. You may want to keep that video away from him, or he'll never go to Denver. That is one ugly looking golf course.
 
I've never hear of Denver referred to as a warm weather city.
:goodposting: It's amazing what people will say to lie to themselves.

Avg Temps for DENVER

Jan 16

NOV 23

DEC 16

ETA: that's not Celsius
that is the average low...big difference
The low temps happen in the very early hours of the morning. Last I checked, NFL games don't start at 5:00 a.m.
Are you still trying to make this argument? The record highs are the outliers. Random days. Not the norm. The average is the average. What you can most likely expect at that time of the year. Nov 23, Dec 19, Jan 19. On a funny side note, IPhones don't have the degree symbol
Okay, listing Denver as a warm weather city was probably not entirely correct, but I firmly submit that the weather in November and December isn't nearly as bad as people who don't live here think.
I didn't notice they were average lows.My oversight.

But you still sound like the guy from Arizona saying it's not very hot out there cause it's a "dry heat"

 
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I agree, and I have already posted that I probably should not have labeled Denver as a warm weather city. It does amaze me that folks latch onto one thing though and ignore all the other points. My only point was that living and playing in Denver isn't as dreary as people who don't live here think. It's really beautiful most of the time.
Denver is pretty dang dreary; maybe not Salt Lake or Phoenix dreary, but the city is a pretty depressing place. The only good thing about it is that the Rockies are close. (Which is non-trivial, true, but that's not enough to salvage Salt Lake, either).That being said, Manning loved Indianapolis so he's probably not looking for a spectacular city to live in.
 
Denver a warm weather city? ummmmm :no:

Trust me, I lived there for 3 years. The third winter had a Canadian front move thru and the temp never got above -4F as the HIGH temp over an 11 day stretch. Forget about the cold, the snow is wonderful. It's the cold as witches *** winds that make you mutter under your breath, "Eff this ####, time to move to Florida". Denver is a beautiful place to live, but you can keep the months of November and December.

Warm weather city my ###.

 
I agree, and I have already posted that I probably should not have labeled Denver as a warm weather city. It does amaze me that folks latch onto one thing though and ignore all the other points. My only point was that living and playing in Denver isn't as dreary as people who don't live here think. It's really beautiful most of the time.
Denver is pretty dang dreary; maybe not Salt Lake or Phoenix dreary, but the city is a pretty depressing place. The only good thing about it is that the Rockies are close. (Which is non-trivial, true, but that's not enough to salvage Salt Lake, either).That being said, Manning loved Indianapolis so he's probably not looking for a spectacular city to live in.
Wow, have you ever been here? We have over 300 days of sunshine, and the sky is bright blue most of the time. Denver is a beautiful city with a vibrant downtown and tons of parks, golf course, bike and hiking trails, etc.
 
Can we get back to talking about the merits of Manning playing in Denver and get off of the weather thing? I already stated multiple times it was not proper for me to list Denver as a warm weather city.

 
I agree, and I have already posted that I probably should not have labeled Denver as a warm weather city. It does amaze me that folks latch onto one thing though and ignore all the other points. My only point was that living and playing in Denver isn't as dreary as people who don't live here think. It's really beautiful most of the time.
Denver is pretty dang dreary; maybe not Salt Lake or Phoenix dreary, but the city is a pretty depressing place. The only good thing about it is that the Rockies are close. (Which is non-trivial, true, but that's not enough to salvage Salt Lake, either).That being said, Manning loved Indianapolis so he's probably not looking for a spectacular city to live in.
Wow, have you ever been here? We have over 300 days of sunshine, and the sky is bright blue most of the time. Denver is a beautiful city with a vibrant downtown and tons of parks, golf course, bike and hiking trails, etc.
Just link it already. You do work for them don't you??

With that said, I do think DEN is a possibility for Manning.

Elway seems reluctant to call Tebow a QB period, never mind a franchise QB.

Everything you listed makes some sense.

 
If Elway really thinks Tebow is not an NFL QB then bringing in Manning might give him the perfect excuse to cut ties with Tebow and send him elsewhere. Elway can use the "when you get a chance to bring in a hall of fame QB" line.

 
I've never hear of Denver referred to as a warm weather city.
:goodposting: It's amazing what people will say to lie to themselves.

Avg Temps for DENVER

Jan 16

NOV 23

DEC 16

ETA: that's not Celsius
Here are the actual average high temperatures for Denver:

October: 66 degrees

November: 54 degrees

December: 46 degrees

And as I said, it's not unusual to have 60 degree days in December. Happens all the time.
Something worth noting. Yes Denver isn't as hot as some of you are arguing, nor as cold as others are arguing. Here's a list of Denvers away games:

@KC

@Oak

@Balt

@NE

@SD

@Cinci

@Atlanta

@Carolina

If NE and Balt land fairly early in the season, there's a chance that the only real cold games Manning would have playing in Denver would be their maybe 4 home games in November and December.

 
As much as I like to think John Fox would toss the run philosophy to the wind to get to work with Manning, I'm not sure if it would really happen.

And I used to have regard for Bowlen until the McDebacle.

 
I stopped reading at the part about bringing Wayne in because they need 3rd receiver. Pick and choose anyone you want but I guarantee that Wayne won't be the 3rd receiver on any team if he follows Manning. those two are telepathic.

But then I started reading again..and then stopped at the "peyton would relish the chance to be with John elway". We're talking perrs here; not idols. They may enjoy playing golf together but I don't think Peyton is pulling up a fire log and asking any grampas to tell him any stories. It would probably be MORE DIFFICULT for a HOF QB to play under another in this situation. These are two very strong willed, single minded guys. I'm sure John has a lot to say but, realistically, if Manning is bringing in HIS system (and he will be), what can Elway possibly instruct him on?

But then I started reading again...and after 18 local weather reports...

I've lived in both cities. Both are very nice. I think for this purpose, I have to say Manning would prefer AZ because its a dome. Yes, its HOT outside, but its 70 in the dome. And between mid-September to April, its PERFECT in Phoenix. If you wanna talk golf courses... And his divisional opponents are in domes and in warm weather for the most part.

Anyway, Conclusion: I think this is Manning being Manning (sounds familiar)...He is going to do due diligence on anyone that is a true potential and he is not going to waste time on anyone he knows isn't a potential. he's never done this before and probably won't ever again so I am sure he is kicking all the tires. So its a good sign that he is coming to Denver. Its a possibility. But I don't see any way he gets out of Arizona if the Cards make a serious offer.

There will be a new sheriff in the wild west.

 
Peyton to Denver. The checklist.

Peyton wants to remain in the AFC. CHECK

I believe that the Manning family is serious about not wanting a Manning brother showdown unless it’s in the Super Bowl. If all options are equal, I think staying in the AFC is the tiebreaker.

Peyton wants to go to a team ready to compete for a playoff spot. CHECK

The Broncos are a young team on the rise, who made it to the final eight, with a QB that completed less than 50% of his throws. Good young defense that will get better after free agency and the draft this year. Good young receivers. Good offensive line with one of the best young left tackles in all of football. The AFC West is up for grabs. The addition of Peyton would make the Bronco’s the favorite to win the division and get at least one home game in the playoffs.

Peyton wants to run his offense. CHECK

This is where Denver has a real advantage over any other team courting him. No other team has proved that they are as egoless in how they go about winning football games than the Broncos have. No one other than Elway and Fox would have re-tooled their offense on the fly last season to try to accentuate the strengths of their QB. It’s unheard of and unprecedented. It they were willing to do that for Tebow, you don’t think they would do that same thing for Manning? Peyton could come in here run the same offense he’s been accustomed to running.

Peyton wants to bring along some of his side-kicks. CHECK

The Broncos need a third receiver…bring along Wayne. The Broncos need a pass catching tight end…bring along Clark. The weak link in the Bronco’s offensive line is at center…bring along Saturday.

Peyton wants to play in a warm weather city. CHECK

Denver gets a bad wrap for being a cold weather city. Yes it can and will snow some, but we only have a few really bad weather games a year, and it is just as likely to be in the 50’s in December as it is to be in the 20’s.

Here's what I should have posted initially:

Peyton wants to play in a warm weather city. CHECK..SORT OF

While you can't label Denver as a "warm weather city", the weather here in Denver in November and December isn't nearly as bad as most people think who don't live here. While it does snow, the snow doesn't stay long, and it is just as likely that the daytime temperature will be in the 60’s in December as it is to be in the 20’s

Here are some other things to consider:

Peyton was very happy and comfortable in Indianapolis. He doesn’t strike me as a big glitz type of guy. He and his family would be very happy and comfortable here in Denver, a city much like Indianapolis.

No other team can give him daily access to John Elway. I think Manning would relish the opportunity to work with someone of the stature and class of Elway.

Pat Bowlen runs a first class operation. Peyton will appreciate how things are done here in Denver.

And, let’s examine the Tebow factor. First off, they probably can’t both exist here on the same roster. Only bringing in someone of Mannings stature could make the rabid Tebow supporters agree that it’s time to move on. This gives Elway and crew the perfect out of a situation that they wish they had never been in in the first place. Cut your losses and trade Tebow to Jacksonville, where he belongs, for a third round draft pick and clear the decks for this being Peyton’s team.

— Bronco Fan aka Dynasty Greg
John Elway is tired of seeing himself when he watches Tebow. Check

Both are inaccurate, overrated, media golden boys who sucked ### for three quarters, rode the coattails of a strong D and running game, then finally played well in the 4th quarter and got the lions share of the credit for winning.

 
As much as I like to think John Fox would toss the run philosophy to the wind to get to work with Manning, I'm not sure if it would really happen.And I used to have regard for Bowlen until the McDebacle.
really?did the Broncos not re-tool their offense for Tebow? If they are willing to re-tool for a 2nd year QB with accuracy issues, don't you think they would re-tool for one of the greatest to ever play?
 

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