PGA's Steve Elkington tweets gay joke re:Michael Sams (1 Viewer)

[LinusMarr]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

He's a warrior!!

 

[Christo]

So,who knew Steve Elkington before the "tweet"?

Always been known as one of the biggest dooshes on tour

I think Deadspin did a story on another tweet of his only about 10 days ago. He follows one of the Golf Network reporter chicks. I guess she tweeted a reunion picture of her with some girlfriends playing a round. He tweeted "Who's the short one with no rack?" It was, of course, her. He seems like an all-around swell guy.

Who's Hottest material incoming.

http://deadspin.com/steve-elkington-tells-stephanie-wei-shes-short-and-has-1523742276

"I've been drinking" should be a good enough excuse for just about any tweet.

 

[chauncey]

So are we supposed to be upset because he is famous and should know better or are we supposed to be upset because anyone who makes a joke is an obvious homophobe/racist/sexist/regionist/religiousist/5guysist #######?

I highly doubt the handful of gay folks I know give 2 ####s about this.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

 

[chauncey]

And he is an Aussie, they pretty much get a free pass when it comes to bad jokes.

 

[17seconds]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

He's a warrior!!

No he's a guy who showed some courage by disclosing something about himself that might be unpopular in the NBA. You don't see many pro athletes doing that regardless of what it is.

 

[LinusMarr]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

He's a warrior!!

No he's a guy who showed some courage by disclosing something about himself that might be unpopular in the NBA. You don't see many pro athletes doing that regardless of what it is.

Thats beautiful....

 

[McGarnicle]

I hear the gays are all atwitter over this. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

 

[JuniorNB]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

He's a warrior!!

No he's a guy who showed some courage by disclosing something about himself that might be unpopular in the NBA. You don't see many pro athletes doing that regardless of what it is.

Thats beautiful....

are you a homophobe or just a troll in general? I like to I know what level of moron I'm dealing with on these boards. Thanks in advance

 

[Limp Ditka]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

He's a warrior!!

No he's a guy who showed some courage by disclosing something about himself that might be unpopular in the NBA. You don't see many pro athletes doing that regardless of what it is.

Thats beautiful....

are you a homophobe or just a troll in general? I like to I know what level of moron I'm dealing with on these boards. Thanks in advance

The peensacle of morons

 

[Widbil83]

Get him!

 

[17seconds]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

 

[parrot]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

He's a warrior!!

I thought he was a Net?

 

[Nipsey]

Payback for Sam's "Gubba" tweet about Elkington last month.

 

[LinusMarr]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

He's a warrior!!

No he's a guy who showed some courage by disclosing something about himself that might be unpopular in the NBA. You don't see many pro athletes doing that regardless of what it is.

Thats beautiful....

are you a homophobe or just a troll in general? I like to I know what level of moron I'm dealing with on these boards. Thanks in advance

Boy for someone who blows the "tolerance" horn often you sure are a bit uptight. Relax, junior....

 

[BobbyLayne]

PGA Tour statement on Steve Elkington:

"Under our regulations, conduct unbecoming a professional includes public commentary that is clearly inappropriate or offensive. With respect to this matter, and consistent with our longstanding policy, we do not comment on player disciplinary matters."

“@katienolan: Reports now showing that Steve Elkington is leading the towel throw.”

 

[17seconds]

Let's get back to Elkington being a doosh

 

[17seconds]

In December 2013, Elkington was widely condemned for remarks he made on Twitter following a fatal helicopter crash in Glasgow'sClutha pub. He wrote: "Helicopter crashes into Scottish pub… Locals report no beer was spilled." The tweet was quickly deleted but not before being shared by users of the social networking site. The comment provoked a furious backlash from his fellow players and commentators alike

 

[Limp Ditka]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

Nothing to gain? Noteririty has to count for something, doesn't it?Plus, it the perfect storm for this. Anyone of his peers that takes issue with this is setting themselves up to face a ridiculous amount of ridicule. The media is pretty much 100% on his side.

The same can't be said of Jackie Robinson. Someone dropped a N bomb on Jackie Robinson, or intentionally tried to take him out, it was a non story and probably even applauded.

 

[JuniorNB]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

He's a warrior!!

No he's a guy who showed some courage by disclosing something about himself that might be unpopular in the NBA. You don't see many pro athletes doing that regardless of what it is.

Thats beautiful....

are you a homophobe or just a troll in general? I like to I know what level of moron I'm dealing with on these boards. Thanks in advance

Boy for someone who blows the "tolerance" horn often you sure are a bit uptight. Relax, junior....

when did I ever claim to have tolerance for ### holes?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

Yep, and good on him. Someone had to take that incremental step.

I could be wrong but I could see a bunch of athletes coming out in the next year or two. More NBAers, couple ML ball players, 5 NFL players at once. NHL will probably follow NASCAR, but I could see out of the closet athletes in the rest of the team sports by the end of 2015.

While I welcome that change, I'm already looking forward and beyond that to the non-story. I honestly don't think this is a big deal to most of the players - they already have closeted teammates or family members or gay friends. The media makes it out to be something monumental. No, it's just sports catching up to the military, the work force, the RotW.

 

[LinusMarr]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

Nothing to gain? Noteririty has to count for something, doesn't it?

Plus, it the perfect storm for this. Anyone of his peers that takes issue with this is setting themselves up to face a ridiculous amount of ridicule. The media is pretty much 100% on his side.

The same can't be said of Jackie Robinson. Someone drop

Heck the way people act now a days if i were a young athlete id say i was gay even if i wasnt. You get a free pass, whos going to say or write anything bad about the "gay guy". What jackie Robinson went through isnt even in the same ball park as what these guys are doing.

 

[LinusMarr]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

He's a warrior!!

No he's a guy who showed some courage by disclosing something about himself that might be unpopular in the NBA. You don't see many pro athletes doing that regardless of what it is.

Thats beautiful....

are you a homophobe or just a troll in general? I like to I know what level of moron I'm dealing with on these boards. Thanks in advance

Boy for someone who blows the "tolerance" horn often you sure are a bit uptight. Relax, junior....

when did I ever claim to have tolerance for ### holes?

Obviously you are extrememly "intolerant" for people with differing views, oh the irony...

 

[Chaka]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

I agree that things for the LGBT community are not as bad in 2014 as they were for African Americans in 1947 but there is still strong opposition to anything LGBT in large segments of America, including (especially?) in sports locker rooms. One big difference for Sam is that public figures are far less likely to make their opposition publicly known because of the backlash but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist and that it won't be difficult for Sam. My goodness a nutjob lobbyist actually suggested floating a bill to bar the NFL from having openly gay players.

There are plenty of people out there who hate him for being gay (Link from Huffington post contains foul language) and I would not be at all surprised if he has received death threats. People are being more careful about it but it, without question, exists.

Again I am not saying it is as bad as it was for Jackie and I agree that in a few years it probably will be a non-issue in sports but don't kid yourself that it hasn't been difficult for him and that it won't continue to be so.

 

[squistion]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

Nothing to gain? Noteririty has to count for something, doesn't it?

Plus, it the perfect storm for this. Anyone of his peers that takes issue with this is setting themselves up to face a ridiculous amount of ridicule. The media is pretty much 100% on his side.

The same can't be said of Jackie Robinson. Someone drop

Heck the way people act now a days if i were a young athlete id say i was gay even if i wasnt. You get a free pass, whos going to say or write anything bad about the "gay guy". What jackie Robinson went through isnt even in the same ball park as what these guys are doing.

Somehow I doubt that...

 

[Limp Ditka]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

Nothing to gain? Noteririty has to count for something, doesn't it?Plus, it the perfect storm for this. Anyone of his peers that takes issue with this is setting themselves up to face a ridiculous amount of ridicule. The media is pretty much 100% on his side.

The same can't be said of Jackie Robinson. Someone drop

Heck the way people act now a days if i were a young athlete id say i was gay even if i wasnt. You get a free pass, whos going to say or write anything bad about the "gay guy". What jackie Robinson went through isnt even in the same ball park as what these guys are doing.

Somehow I doubt that...

He already has the shirt

 

[Chaka]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

No. People knew and Sam believed that a reporter (or several) were going to break the story. It was going to be public no matter what so he decided to do it on his own terms.

 

[JuniorNB]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

He's a warrior!!

No he's a guy who showed some courage by disclosing something about himself that might be unpopular in the NBA. You don't see many pro athletes doing that regardless of what it is.

Thats beautiful....

are you a homophobe or just a troll in general? I like to I know what level of moron I'm dealing with on these boards. Thanks in advance

Boy for someone who blows the "tolerance" horn often you sure are a bit uptight. Relax, junior....

when did I ever claim to have tolerance for ### holes?

Obviously you are extrememly "intolerant" for people with differing views, oh the irony...

plenty of people in this thread have different opinions than I do. Yet you're the only one I'm attacking. Not because you have a different opinion, but because you're a troll and a moron.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

I agree that things for the LGBT community are not as bad in 2014 as they were for African Americans in 1947 but there is still strong opposition to anything LGBT in large segments of America, including (especially?) in sports locker rooms. One big difference for Sam is that public figures are far less likely to make their opposition publicly known because of the backlash but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist and that it won't be difficult for Sam. My goodness a nutjob lobbyist actually suggested floating a bill to bar the NFL from having openly gay players.

There are plenty of people out there who hate him for being gay (Link from Huffington post contains foul language) and I would not be at all surprised if he has received death threats. People are being more careful about it but it, without question, exists.

Again I am not saying it is as bad as it was for Jackie and I agree that in a few years it probably will be a non-issue in sports but don't kid yourself that it hasn't been difficult for him and that it won't continue to be so.

Of course there is hatred and bigotry in this world. No one is naive enough to deny that.

All I'm saying is in today's world those kind of buffoons are basically powerless. They're irrelevant.

And to reiterate, it's a bigger deal to the media and the suits than it is to the players.

 

[jon_mx]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

I agree that things for the LGBT community are not as bad in 2014 as they were for African Americans in 1947 but there is still strong opposition to anything LGBT in large segments of America, including (especially?) in sports locker rooms. One big difference for Sam is that public figures are far less likely to make their opposition publicly known because of the backlash but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist and that it won't be difficult for Sam. My goodness a nutjob lobbyist actually suggested floating a bill to bar the NFL from having openly gay players.

There are plenty of people out there who hate him for being gay (Link from Huffington post contains foul language) and I would not be at all surprised if he has received death threats. People are being more careful about it but it, without question, exists.

Again I am not saying it is as bad as it was for Jackie and I agree that in a few years it probably will be a non-issue in sports but don't kid yourself that it hasn't been difficult for him and that it won't continue to be so.

There are plenty of people who hate everyone. People here are hated in here for being Conservative, Liberal, Moderate, Christian, a Soccer Fan, Tim, stupid, Floridian, Obama buttboy, whatever.

 

[Chaka]

You're being fished Junior, let it go.

 

[timschochet]

Not surprised to see Linus Marr with so many posts here. Michael Sam is black, he's gay, and as an elite athlete he's an example of human evolution- this is exactly the sort of guy Peens wants to be with.

 

[Chaka]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

I agree that things for the LGBT community are not as bad in 2014 as they were for African Americans in 1947 but there is still strong opposition to anything LGBT in large segments of America, including (especially?) in sports locker rooms. One big difference for Sam is that public figures are far less likely to make their opposition publicly known because of the backlash but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist and that it won't be difficult for Sam. My goodness a nutjob lobbyist actually suggested floating a bill to bar the NFL from having openly gay players.

There are plenty of people out there who hate him for being gay (Link from Huffington post contains foul language) and I would not be at all surprised if he has received death threats. People are being more careful about it but it, without question, exists.

Again I am not saying it is as bad as it was for Jackie and I agree that in a few years it probably will be a non-issue in sports but don't kid yourself that it hasn't been difficult for him and that it won't continue to be so.

Of course there is hatred and bigotry in this world. No one is naive enough to deny that.

All I'm saying is in today's world those kind of buffoons are basically powerless. They're irrelevant.

And to reiterate, it's a bigger deal to the media and the suits than it is to the players.

33 states still ban gay marriage. Tide is changing but let's not call it an insignificant number of people who, at the very least, disapprove of Sam.

 

[belljr]

I might join Twitter now

 

[fruity pebbles]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

Nothing to gain? Noteririty has to count for something, doesn't it?Plus, it the perfect storm for this. Anyone of his peers that takes issue with this is setting themselves up to face a ridiculous amount of ridicule. The media is pretty much 100% on his side.

The same can't be said of Jackie Robinson. Someone drop

Heck the way people act now a days if i were a young athlete id say i was gay even if i wasnt. You get a free pass, whos going to say or write anything bad about the "gay guy". What jackie Robinson went through isnt even in the same ball park as what these guys are doing.

Somehow I doubt that...

He already has the shirt

 

[17seconds]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

Nothing to gain? Noteririty has to count for something, doesn't it?Plus, it the perfect storm for this. Anyone of his peers that takes issue with this is setting themselves up to face a ridiculous amount of ridicule. The media is pretty much 100% on his side.

The same can't be said of Jackie Robinson. Someone dropped a N bomb on Jackie Robinson, or intentionally tried to take him out, it was a non story and probably even applauded.

Nope, nothing to gain for exactly the reasons you gave. He's not a prominent enough athlete and what he did is not overcoming enough to gain any long term notoriety. There will be no movies made about Jason Collins 30 years from now.

 

[JuniorNB]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

Nothing to gain? Noteririty has to count for something, doesn't it?Plus, it the perfect storm for this. Anyone of his peers that takes issue with this is setting themselves up to face a ridiculous amount of ridicule. The media is pretty much 100% on his side.

The same can't be said of Jackie Robinson. Someone drop

Heck the way people act now a days if i were a young athlete id say i was gay even if i wasnt. You get a free pass, whos going to say or write anything bad about the "gay guy". What jackie Robinson went through isnt even in the same ball park as what these guys are doing.

Somehow I doubt that...

He already has the shirt

Lol. That is classic. And so true.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

Nothing to gain? Noteririty has to count for something, doesn't it?Plus, it the perfect storm for this. Anyone of his peers that takes issue with this is setting themselves up to face a ridiculous amount of ridicule. The media is pretty much 100% on his side.

The same can't be said of Jackie Robinson. Someone dropped a N bomb on Jackie Robinson, or intentionally tried to take him out, it was a non story and probably even applauded.

Nope, nothing to gain for exactly the reasons you gave. He's not a prominent enough athlete and what he did is not overcoming enough to gain any long term notoriety. There will be no movies made about Jason Collins 30 years from now.

There doesn't need to be a movie.

HTH

 

[mad sweeney]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player. Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding. It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

He's a warrior!!

No he's a guy who showed some courage by disclosing something about himself that might be unpopular in the NBA. You don't see many pro athletes doing that regardless of what it is.

Thats beautiful....

are you a homophobe or just a troll in general? I like to I know what level of moron I'm dealing with on these boards. Thanks in advance

Boy for someone who blows the "tolerance" horn often you sure are a bit uptight. Relax, junior....

when did I ever claim to have tolerance for ### holes?

Obviously you are extrememly "intolerant" for people with differing views, oh the irony...

Oh the lack of understanding what words mean. Nice to see your obsession with gay topics is still raging at full mast. I just hope that one day you'll find the courage and acceptance to confide in us.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

I agree that things for the LGBT community are not as bad in 2014 as they were for African Americans in 1947 but there is still strong opposition to anything LGBT in large segments of America, including (especially?) in sports locker rooms. One big difference for Sam is that public figures are far less likely to make their opposition publicly known because of the backlash but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist and that it won't be difficult for Sam. My goodness a nutjob lobbyist actually suggested floating a bill to bar the NFL from having openly gay players.

There are plenty of people out there who hate him for being gay (Link from Huffington post contains foul language) and I would not be at all surprised if he has received death threats. People are being more careful about it but it, without question, exists.

Again I am not saying it is as bad as it was for Jackie and I agree that in a few years it probably will be a non-issue in sports but don't kid yourself that it hasn't been difficult for him and that it won't continue to be so.

Of course there is hatred and bigotry in this world. No one is naive enough to deny that.

All I'm saying is in today's world those kind of buffoons are basically powerless. They're irrelevant.

And to reiterate, it's a bigger deal to the media and the suits than it is to the players.

33 states still ban gay marriage. Tide is changing but let's not call it an insignificant number of people who, at the very least, disapprove of Sam.

Didn't say insignificant; I said irrelevant. I said basically powerless.

You think any teammate or GM or owner could come out publicly against gays without suffering serious backlash? No way.

And while you are correct re: 33 state ban, I prefer:

Seventeen states - CA, CT, DE, HI, IA, IL, ME, MD, MA, MN, NH, NJ, NM, NY, RI, VT, and WA - plus Washington, D.C. have the freedom to marry for same-sex couples. In UT, a federal judge has issued a ruling establishing the freedom to marry, and the decision is now stayed pending consideration by the appellate court.

Three states offer broad protections short of marriage. CO allows civil union, while OR and NV offer broad domestic partnership. WI has more limited domestic partnership.

With these advances, a record number of Americans live in states that recognize relationships between same-sex couples:

• Over 38% of the U.S. population lives in a state that either has the freedom to marry or honors out-of-state marriages of same-sex couples.
• Over 41% of the U.S. population lives in a state with either marriage or a broad legal status such as civil union or domestic partnership.
• Over 43% of the U.S. population lives in a state that provides some form of protections for gay couples.

That's a helluva a lot of progress in a few years, and that trend will continue.

 

[The General]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

Nothing to gain? Noteririty has to count for something, doesn't it?Plus, it the perfect storm for this. Anyone of his peers that takes issue with this is setting themselves up to face a ridiculous amount of ridicule. The media is pretty much 100% on his side.

The same can't be said of Jackie Robinson. Someone drop

Heck the way people act now a days if i were a young athlete id say i was gay even if i wasnt. You get a free pass, whos going to say or write anything bad about the "gay guy". What jackie Robinson went through isnt even in the same ball park as what these guys are doing.

Somehow I doubt that...

He already has the shirt

Lol

 

[17seconds]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

Nothing to gain? Noteririty has to count for something, doesn't it?Plus, it the perfect storm for this. Anyone of his peers that takes issue with this is setting themselves up to face a ridiculous amount of ridicule. The media is pretty much 100% on his side.

The same can't be said of Jackie Robinson. Someone dropped a N bomb on Jackie Robinson, or intentionally tried to take him out, it was a non story and probably even applauded.

Nope, nothing to gain for exactly the reasons you gave. He's not a prominent enough athlete and what he did is not overcoming enough to gain any long term notoriety. There will be no movies made about Jason Collins 30 years from now.

There doesn't need to be a movie.

HTH

OK.. Bump the thread in a year or 2 and we'll talk about what kind of spotlight is on Jason Collins

 

[[icon]]

Is there a handbag toss at the combine?

He's a 51 year old Australian. Doesn't let him off the hook, but it doesn't surprise one bit either. Ho hum.

I'm sure he's shaking in fear of public backlash atop his $15 million in winnings. let's not forget this this guy put himself up on the cross by making a big attention whore move out of "coming out" via interviews w Espn/NYtimes.

Thankfully each joke will be met with less and less overreaction until we get back to the point where it's okay to bust someone's balls for being gay, fat, polish, effeminate, a #######, etc without fear of halfwit lemmings getting up in arms over it.

Is it politically correct? Hell no.

Does that make it wrong? Meh... BFD.

Set up us the "fictitious drills at the homosexual combine" draft.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

Nothing to gain? Noteririty has to count for something, doesn't it?Plus, it the perfect storm for this. Anyone of his peers that takes issue with this is setting themselves up to face a ridiculous amount of ridicule. The media is pretty much 100% on his side.

The same can't be said of Jackie Robinson. Someone dropped a N bomb on Jackie Robinson, or intentionally tried to take him out, it was a non story and probably even applauded.

Nope, nothing to gain for exactly the reasons you gave. He's not a prominent enough athlete and what he did is not overcoming enough to gain any long term notoriety. There will be no movies made about Jason Collins 30 years from now.

There doesn't need to be a movie.HTH

OK.. Bump the thread in a year or 2 and we'll talk about what kind of spotlight is on Jason Collins

I'll bump it on the 5, 10, 15 year anniversary of his first 'open' game.

You really don't think he'll get a blurb on SC then?

 

[Chaka]

That's a helluva a lot of progress in a few years, and that trend will continue.

Totally agree that there is a ton of progress for the LBGT community. My only point is that it still is not easy for Sam and it probably won't be easy for him any time soon. Teammates won't need to be public about their issues to make life tough on him and you can bet fans will be incredibly ugly both in the stands and particularly when they are protected by the veil of anonymity.

 

[Fennis]

As someone who likes funny jokes, I am offended.

 

[Chaka]

let's not forget this this guy put himself up on the cross by making a big attention whore move out of "coming out" via interviews w Espn/NYtimes.

Again, that is not what happened. He came out very privately to his teammates at Missouri before the beginning of last year. Then during the Senior Bowl he found out that a reporter (reporters?) were going to break the story so he decided to break it himself.

That is very different from being an attention whore.

 

[BobbyLayne]

As someone who likes funny jokes, I am offended.

You're a rabid anti-dentite!

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

let's not forget this this guy put himself up on the cross by making a big attention whore move out of "coming out" via interviews w Espn/NYtimes.

Again, that is not what happened. He came out very privately to his teammates at Missouri before the beginning of last year. Then during the Senior Bowl he found out that a reporter (reporters?) were going to break the story so he decided to break it himself.

That is very different from being an attention whore.

And what does it matter anyway? Are people really arguing that gay athletes need to stay in the closet or be branded a drama queen? Do we expect straight athletes to somehow keep their private lives secret. How dare that Carmelo Anthony! Nobody wants to know about his wife!

 

[LinusMarr]

Dumb joke, good point. Guy is a football player.

Last night they were talking about Jason Collins re-entry into the league. First openly gay in any of the four major sports yada yada yada. One guy who covered the game was surprised that in L.A. there was just lukewarm applause. Look, everyone supports him, but last night's line a typical Collins stat line: 11 minutes, 2 rebounds, 1 steal, no points. It's deserving of lukewarm applause. Anything more is patronizing, no?

Your point is the applause should be tempered because he's not a top player? That's not why they were applauding.

It's not patronizing at all to acknowledge his courage with applause.

OK, fine.

But let's be real about how much courage it took. It's not Jackie when a good sized portion of the society, his opponents and even teammates are opposed to him being out there. We're at a point in time where, yes, of course it's a story, and IMO it's very quickly - a few years - it will be a non-story in any sport.

As someone who is openly supportive of LBGT causes at work, in my community, et al - I'm looking forward to that normalcy.

It's nothing like Jackie Robinson. Not only is the cultural stigma far less, but it was also a secret he chose to announce. He could have said nothing and been fine. The fact he chose to put himself out there with really nothing to gain makes it courageous.

Nothing to gain? Noteririty has to count for something, doesn't it?Plus, it the perfect storm for this. Anyone of his peers that takes issue with this is setting themselves up to face a ridiculous amount of ridicule. The media is pretty much 100% on his side.

The same can't be said of Jackie Robinson. Someone drop

Heck the way people act now a days if i were a young athlete id say i was gay even if i wasnt. You get a free pass, whos going to say or write anything bad about the "gay guy". What jackie Robinson went through isnt even in the same ball park as what these guys are doing.

Somehow I doubt that...

He already has the shirt

Lol. That is classic. And so true.

Well, the ladies seem to like my gear, haters....