Philly Receivers... Homers and those in the know (1 Viewer)

[Koya]

Many people, including me, have pointed toward McNabbs chance to really have a very good season (if only he can stay healthy). With that in mind, who the heck other than Westbrook will be the recipient of that production?

I have heard Brown has underwhelemed this preseason. Curtis has looked good at times from the little that we can see on TV but many have doubts about him really being able to be an impact player. LJ Smith is still hurting and has underwhelmed in the past - will he surprise? Is there someone we don't now who may surface?

For those paying close attention, how do you think this will work itself out?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Many people, including me, have pointed toward McNabbs chance to really have a very good season (if only he can stay healthy). With that in mind, who the heck other than Westbrook will be the recipient of that production?I have heard Brown has underwhelemed this preseason. Curtis has looked good at times from the little that we can see on TV but many have doubts about him really being able to be an impact player. LJ Smith is still hurting and has underwhelmed in the past - will he surprise? Is there someone we don't now who may surface?For those paying close attention, how do you think this will work itself out?

In order of likelihood of targets:RB1 - WestbrookWR1 - Reggie Brown (but his hold on this is tenuous right now)TE1 - LJ Smith (assuming he's good to go)WR2 - Kevin Curtis (could be WR1 if Brown slips)WR3 - Jason Avant (secured WR3 recently and arguably best camp of any WR)WR4 - Hank Baskett (looked good but Avant's done slightly better)TE2 - Brent Celek (looked good in preseason w/ LJ out)WR5 - Greg Lewis (mostly 4-wide sets, longer routes) Fantasy line drawn around Curtis / Avant line and depending on depth of league.

 

[Bristol]

McNabb has been looking at Curtis alot. It would not surprise me in the least if he and Brown are 1a and 1b.

 

[Koya]

Jeff - Thanks for the response. I was specifically wondering if those who have watched closely might know something that might not be available to the rest of us. I happen to agree with you, but there are some key question marks which perhaps can be answered to a degree by someone who has watched their practices or followed intently.

LJ Smith and (1) His injury (2) his role in the offense. Is his upside any more than decent TE?

As you point out, if Brown slips does Curtis have a chance to be #1. Well, we have heard Brown has not really impressed that much. But does Curtis have the ability to even be considered a #1? What has he shown.

Again, any insight appreciated.

ETA: Jeff.. just saw the Avant thing. Thats a good piece of info. Something to store away in case there is a need to pounce, later.

 

[EBF]

Curtis is a solid player. He should have a good season.

Both he and Brown have a chance to finish in the WR20-30 range. I'm not sure if either of them is good enough to do better than that though.

 

[Bristol]

Jeff - Thanks for the response. I was specifically wondering if those who have watched closely might know something that might not be available to the rest of us. I happen to agree with you, but there are some key question marks which perhaps can be answered to a degree by someone who has watched their practices or followed intently.LJ Smith and (1) His injury (2) his role in the offense. Is his upside any more than decent TE?As you point out, if Brown slips does Curtis have a chance to be #1. Well, we have heard Brown has not really impressed that much. But does Curtis have the ability to even be considered a #1? What has he shown.Again, any insight appreciated.ETA: Jeff.. just saw the Avant thing. Thats a good piece of info. Something to store away in case there is a need to pounce, later.

Yeah...Jeff goes with the wind.A couple of weeks ago he was adamant with me that Baskett was the #3 and Avant was an afterthought. Funny how things change in just a couple of weeks with his opinions. IMO, the worst guy for advice on this site.

 

[Koya]

The fact is, a lot of FF championships are decided not only by the surprise superstars, but the surprise solid starters that help a team get through a couple injuries and into the playoffs.

If a Curtis can really surprise and become say a viable FF WR #2 he provides exceptional value. There are a number of situations like this where SOMEone (or more than on player on a team) will produce. Minn, Jax (someone has to catch the ball, right?) KC come to mind as less talent but also wide open situations where a couple fantasy surprises will likely come from.

 

[YoUnG GuNz]

Honestly I could see Westbrook catching 90-100 balls with the way Brown has looked. Looks like a japanese school girl when catching the ball. McNabb has chown disgust towards him with those drops in the Pitt game.

 

[norton17]

Why does anyone think that a Philly WR will all of a sudden step up and be a real fantasy threat b/c of Mcnabb???

The Philly offense is kind of like New England's, spread the ball around. I would be willing to bet no Philly receiver cracks 1000 yds or 7 td's.

Unless they suddenly find a Terrell Owens type talent (which is not on the roster currently) I can't see how any WR steps up big

 

[stevegamer]

Here's my take, and I've seen the games on DVR, except for the most recent one and a few snaps. Full disclosure: I have Brown & Curtis in different leagues.

1. Westbrook - duh.

2a. Reggie Brown - he's the #1 going into the year, and should be solid. There is a caveat to this though, and that's...

2b. Kevin Curtis. He's really impressed me, and I wasn't expecting him to be this solid split wide.

3. LJ Smith. Not healthy, has trouble staying healthy. he's playing for a contract & job with another team, in my opinion. They don't need to rush him back as they have good backup TE's.

4. Jason Avant. Best WR in camp not named Kevin Curtis. Took the #3 job from Baskett, which many didn't think was up for grabs.

5. Hank Baskett. Could move back as the #3 WR during the season, and the Eagles will go 4 WR sometimes, plus they do bring different guys in for plays.

Backup TE's Schobel/Celek will get snaps & catches, and I'd set the odds around 90% one of them will be next season's starter. If Smith goes down for a long time, one of these guys will have value.

Greg Lewis - Is waiting to be replaced. Somehow Jeremy Bloom couldn't do it, so we wait for the guy who can.

Other RB's - a few catches, but not worthy of thinking of in that light.

 

[stevegamer]

Why does anyone think that a Philly WR will all of a sudden step up and be a real fantasy threat b/c of Mcnabb???The Philly offense is kind of like New England's, spread the ball around. I would be willing to bet no Philly receiver cracks 1000 yds or 7 td's.Unless they suddenly find a Terrell Owens type talent (which is not on the roster currently) I can't see how any WR steps up big

I think you could see 80/1000/8 as a high end, which isn't fabulous, but is definitely solid. Even if you get 70/950/6 it isn't bad. I do think you'll see a 1000 yard receiver, though.

 

[Rovers]

Jeff - Thanks for the response. I was specifically wondering if those who have watched closely might know something that might not be available to the rest of us. I happen to agree with you, but there are some key question marks which perhaps can be answered to a degree by someone who has watched their practices or followed intently.LJ Smith and (1) His injury (2) his role in the offense. Is his upside any more than decent TE?As you point out, if Brown slips does Curtis have a chance to be #1. Well, we have heard Brown has not really impressed that much. But does Curtis have the ability to even be considered a #1? What has he shown.Again, any insight appreciated.ETA: Jeff.. just saw the Avant thing. Thats a good piece of info. Something to store away in case there is a need to pounce, later.

Yeah...Jeff goes with the wind.A couple of weeks ago he was adamant with me that Baskett was the #3 and Avant was an afterthought. Funny how things change in just a couple of weeks with his opinions. IMO, the worst guy for advice on this site.

I just don't get this sort of critisism. Baskett was indeed the consensus #3 going into preseason, and Avant out performed him. Should Jeff deny the new handwriting on the wall? He, like all of us can make a projection that doesn't pan out. I was dead wrong on Q Moses in Oakland, and am still shocked the Jets cut Danny Ware leaving themselves only 2 full time RB's, nevermind that the #1 missed most of the preseason.What do you expect, some sort of freakin garantee? Go buy a new TV and pay for the extended warrantee. This is FF.... and it's all about projecting as best one can. Buy a new car, and you expect reliable transportation.... but there is a lemon law... because expectations even with something like a new car can fall well below what one expected. Jeff goes with the wind? No, he changed his projections based on what has happened. To do otherwise WOULD deserve critisism..... BTW, I and a whole bunch of other people thought Baskett would be the guy.... I guess you didn't have an opinion, and would rather just base your FF moves on other's advice. Think for yourself too.... if you can.

 

[norton17]

Why does anyone think that a Philly WR will all of a sudden step up and be a real fantasy threat b/c of Mcnabb???The Philly offense is kind of like New England's, spread the ball around. I would be willing to bet no Philly receiver cracks 1000 yds or 7 td's.Unless they suddenly find a Terrell Owens type talent (which is not on the roster currently) I can't see how any WR steps up big

I think you could see 80/1000/8 as a high end, which isn't fabulous, but is definitely solid. Even if you get 70/950/6 it isn't bad. I do think you'll see a 1000 yard receiver, though.

You see 1000 yds as a high end but then go on to say that you see a 1000 yd receiver? Kind of contradicting if you ask me

 

[stevegamer]

Why does anyone think that a Philly WR will all of a sudden step up and be a real fantasy threat b/c of Mcnabb???The Philly offense is kind of like New England's, spread the ball around. I would be willing to bet no Philly receiver cracks 1000 yds or 7 td's.Unless they suddenly find a Terrell Owens type talent (which is not on the roster currently) I can't see how any WR steps up big

I think you could see 80/1000/8 as a high end, which isn't fabulous, but is definitely solid. Even if you get 70/950/6 it isn't bad. I do think you'll see a 1000 yard receiver, though.

You see 1000 yds as a high end but then go on to say that you see a 1000 yd receiver? Kind of contradicting if you ask me

Sorry, tired. Many don't think there will be a 1000 yard receiver, so it's on the high end of preicitons. At least it sounds like that's the consensus.I think htere will be.

 

[CASS101]

Kevin Curtis is the one WR that I had to have this year, especially since he could be had for a bargain. I have been waiting for his opportunity since he filled in for Bruce during his injury back in 2005. I know he is fast. And I know that he has hands of glue. And..... I think that Curtis could be a solid #2 WR for your fantasy team. The great news is that you can draft him as your 4th WR and sleep well.

 

[Banger]

Kevin Curtis is the one WR that I had to have this year, especially since he could be had for a bargain. I have been waiting for his opportunity since he filled in for Bruce during his injury back in 2005. I know he is fast. And I know that he has hands of glue. And..... I think that Curtis could be a solid #2 WR for your fantasy team. The great news is that you can draft him as your 4th WR and sleep well.

employed the same strategy in every draft. Looking forward to see how it works out....

 

[CiscoKid]

Kevin Curtis is the one WR that I had to have this year, especially since he could be had for a bargain. I have been waiting for his opportunity since he filled in for Bruce during his injury back in 2005. I know he is fast. And I know that he has hands of glue. And..... I think that Curtis could be a solid #2 WR for your fantasy team. The great news is that you can draft him as your 4th WR and sleep well.

employed the same strategy in every draft. Looking forward to see how it works out....

I'm in as well - was able to get him in 5 of my last 6 drafts. I've really liked what I've seen so far from Curtis. For his ceiling, it's not a stretch for me to envision him replacing Stallworth's production in the beginning of last year (before he injured his hamstring), and I think the floor is much higher than he's being drafted. From watching the preseason games and being up at training camp, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was the Eagles #1 WR at the end of the year. McNabb was targeting him often, and has also been working on hooking up with him on deep patterns quite a bit...

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Jeff - Thanks for the response. I was specifically wondering if those who have watched closely might know something that might not be available to the rest of us. I happen to agree with you, but there are some key question marks which perhaps can be answered to a degree by someone who has watched their practices or followed intently.

LJ Smith and (1) His injury (2) his role in the offense. Is his upside any more than decent TE?

As you point out, if Brown slips does Curtis have a chance to be #1. Well, we have heard Brown has not really impressed that much. But does Curtis have the ability to even be considered a #1? What has he shown.

Again, any insight appreciated.

ETA: Jeff.. just saw the Avant thing. Thats a good piece of info. Something to store away in case there is a need to pounce, later.

Yeah...Jeff goes with the wind.A couple of weeks ago he was adamant with me that Baskett was the #3 and Avant was an afterthought. Funny how things change in just a couple of weeks with his opinions. IMO, the worst guy for advice on this site.

I'm assuming you mean this thread.... let me know which part was adamant with you. TIA.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Kevin Curtis is the one WR that I had to have this year, especially since he could be had for a bargain. I have been waiting for his opportunity since he filled in for Bruce during his injury back in 2005. I know he is fast. And I know that he has hands of glue. And..... I think that Curtis could be a solid #2 WR for your fantasy team. The great news is that you can draft him as your 4th WR and sleep well.

employed the same strategy in every draft. Looking forward to see how it works out....

I'm in as well - was able to get him in 5 of my last 6 drafts. I've really liked what I've seen so far from Curtis. For his ceiling, it's not a stretch for me to envision him replacing Stallworth's production in the beginning of last year (before he injured his hamstring), and I think the floor is much higher than he's being drafted. From watching the preseason games and being up at training camp, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was the Eagles #1 WR at the end of the year. McNabb was targeting him often, and has also been working on hooking up with him on deep patterns quite a bit...

If you're in a best ball / survivor league, Curtis will be $$.Philly led the league in 40+ plays last year. I bet at least 1/3 of those go to Curtis this year.

 

[zadok]

Why does anyone think that a Philly WR will all of a sudden step up and be a real fantasy threat b/c of Mcnabb???The Philly offense is kind of like New England's, spread the ball around. I would be willing to bet no Philly receiver cracks 1000 yds or 7 td's.Unless they suddenly find a Terrell Owens type talent (which is not on the roster currently) I can't see how any WR steps up big

Brown had 8 TDs last year...

 

[zadok]

I have heard Brown has underwhelemed this preseason.

Where did you hear that? I pay very close attention and he has not underwhelmed at all...

 

[Bristol]

Jeff - Thanks for the response. I was specifically wondering if those who have watched closely might know something that might not be available to the rest of us. I happen to agree with you, but there are some key question marks which perhaps can be answered to a degree by someone who has watched their practices or followed intently.

LJ Smith and (1) His injury (2) his role in the offense. Is his upside any more than decent TE?

As you point out, if Brown slips does Curtis have a chance to be #1. Well, we have heard Brown has not really impressed that much. But does Curtis have the ability to even be considered a #1? What has he shown.

Again, any insight appreciated.

ETA: Jeff.. just saw the Avant thing. Thats a good piece of info. Something to store away in case there is a need to pounce, later.

Yeah...Jeff goes with the wind.A couple of weeks ago he was adamant with me that Baskett was the #3 and Avant was an afterthought. Funny how things change in just a couple of weeks with his opinions. IMO, the worst guy for advice on this site.

I'm assuming you mean this thread.... let me know which part was adamant with you. TIA.

I CLEARLY stated that Avant was going to be the 3rd receiver and then you, in your always infinite wisdom (LOL), state that Baskett was going to be the #3. IF you truly did go to training camp, you would have seen that Avant was getting all the looks and Baskett was an afterthought. Please stop passing off misinformation to this community.

 

[Biabreakable]

Nice to see Avant moving up the depth chart. I liked him as a value pick to possibly pan out over Brown as a rookie last year and I have been holding on to him. Will continue to keep.

I do think Curtis is the most likely to be startable this season.

I have never been excited about Brown. He needs a huge amount of targets to be startable and if he has been dropping balls those targets may go elsewhere. With enough action he can be solid (like any WR) but I never saw the upside with him to be worth the investment it took to get him.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Jeff - Thanks for the response. I was specifically wondering if those who have watched closely might know something that might not be available to the rest of us. I happen to agree with you, but there are some key question marks which perhaps can be answered to a degree by someone who has watched their practices or followed intently.

LJ Smith and (1) His injury (2) his role in the offense. Is his upside any more than decent TE?

As you point out, if Brown slips does Curtis have a chance to be #1. Well, we have heard Brown has not really impressed that much. But does Curtis have the ability to even be considered a #1? What has he shown.

Again, any insight appreciated.

ETA: Jeff.. just saw the Avant thing. Thats a good piece of info. Something to store away in case there is a need to pounce, later.

Yeah...Jeff goes with the wind.A couple of weeks ago he was adamant with me that Baskett was the #3 and Avant was an afterthought. Funny how things change in just a couple of weeks with his opinions. IMO, the worst guy for advice on this site.

I'm assuming you mean this thread.... let me know which part was adamant with you. TIA.

I CLEARLY stated that Avant was going to be the 3rd receiver and then you, in your always infinite wisdom (LOL), state that Baskett was going to be the #3. IF you truly did go to training camp, you would have seen that Avant was getting all the looks and Baskett was an afterthought. Please stop passing off misinformation to this community.

In that thread? No, I didn't.At that time and yes I was at camp Baskett looked much better than Avant. Apparently he did better since 8/11.

For weeks it was reported that it was close between the two, and only in the last week or two has Avant moved past Baskett. I haven't seen much reason why from the preseason games, so it must be work in practice.

Note that the Eagles broke camp VERY early, before 8/13.

I still believe that Baskett has better skills than Avant, but I'm glad as a fan of the team that there is competition.

If it makes you feel better - "attaboy".

 

[JetMaxx]

I have heard Brown has underwhelemed this preseason.

Where did you hear that? I pay very close attention and he has not underwhelmed at all...

2 catches for 14 yds with 2 dropped passes and a personal foul penalty in the last meaningful pre-season game. Yeah, underwhelming.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I have heard Brown has underwhelemed this preseason.

Where did you hear that? I pay very close attention and he has not underwhelmed at all...

2 catches for 14 yds with 2 dropped passes and a personal foul penalty in the last meaningful pre-season game. Yeah, underwhelming.

The Inquirer and Daily News also made mention that he'd not been doing well in practices.The door is wide open for a WR to step up and become #5's favorite....Curtis could be that guy - although he was lining up at SE more than FL, so that would tend to favor Avant replacing Reggie Brown (should they make a personnel change). I doubt a switch, but I could see McNabb "looking left" a bit more often.

 

[Koya]

I have heard Brown has underwhelemed this preseason.

Where did you hear that? I pay very close attention and he has not underwhelmed at all...

I have read / heard from various sources. Thought this was simply the consensus view. Not a BAD preseason, but meh at best.

 

[zadok]

I have heard Brown has underwhelemed this preseason.

Where did you hear that? I pay very close attention and he has not underwhelmed at all...

2 catches for 14 yds with 2 dropped passes and a personal foul penalty in the last meaningful pre-season game. Yeah, underwhelming.

If you say so...

 

[zadok]

I have heard Brown has underwhelemed this preseason.

Where did you hear that? I pay very close attention and he has not underwhelmed at all...

2 catches for 14 yds with 2 dropped passes and a personal foul penalty in the last meaningful pre-season game. Yeah, underwhelming.

The Inquirer and Daily News also made mention that he'd not been doing well in practices.The door is wide open for a WR to step up and become #5's favorite....Curtis could be that guy - although he was lining up at SE more than FL, so that would tend to favor Avant replacing Reggie Brown (should they make a personnel change). I doubt a switch, but I could see McNabb "looking left" a bit more often.

I don't see where this negativity has been coming from at all. Brown was excellent in camp. Unless he totally regressed the past month, nothing is going to change. Avant is a slot player, no speed to play on the outside.

 

[Shermanator]

As far as receivers go, it seems Curtis has been getting the first looks. He definately has been targeted more than Reggie this preseason. Curtis also had a strong camp.

If you also factor in that Stallworth was CLEARLY the #1 receiver on the Eagles last year. And Curtis is replacing him, playing the same position.

The writing is on the wall.

Curtis will be the #1 on this team. And I really dont see how there is so much confusion. Reggie is a nice receiver. A solid #2 in the NFL.

Funny that he is being drafted a few rounds before Curtis, and this should really be opposite.

Savvy owners that draft Curtis and not Brown will be very happy they did so by the end of the season.

 

[Fantasy Fix Fred]

As far as receivers go, it seems Curtis has been getting the first looks. He definately has been targeted more than Reggie this preseason. Curtis also had a strong camp. If you also factor in that Stallworth was CLEARLY the #1 receiver on the Eagles last year. And Curtis is replacing him, playing the same position.The writing is on the wall. Curtis will be the #1 on this team. And I really dont see how there is so much confusion. Reggie is a nice receiver. A solid #2 in the NFL. Funny that he is being drafted a few rounds before Curtis, and this should really be opposite.Savvy owners that draft Curtis and not Brown will be very happy they did so by the end of the season.

Let me guess...You have Kevin Curtis on your fantasy team? Lets be serious here Reggie Brown is looked at as the #1 Wr in Philly. This is Reggie's year to step up as the #1. Curtis is the #2, lets remember he played in the slot in Stl. So if I were drafting an Eagles WR, it would be Brown, but for fantasy I would avoid ant Eagles Wrs and only draft westbrook and akers.

 

[CiscoKid]

As far as receivers go, it seems Curtis has been getting the first looks. He definately has been targeted more than Reggie this preseason. Curtis also had a strong camp.

If you also factor in that Stallworth was CLEARLY the #1 receiver on the Eagles last year. And Curtis is replacing him, playing the same position.

The writing is on the wall.

Curtis will be the #1 on this team. And I really dont see how there is so much confusion. Reggie is a nice receiver. A solid #2 in the NFL.

Funny that he is being drafted a few rounds before Curtis, and this should really be opposite.

Savvy owners that draft Curtis and not Brown will be very happy they did so by the end of the season.

Let me guess...You have Kevin Curtis on your fantasy team? Lets be serious here Reggie Brown is looked at as the #1 Wr in Philly. This is Reggie's year to step up as the #1. Curtis is the #2, lets remember he played in the slot in Stl. So if I were drafting an Eagles WR, it would be Brown, but for fantasy I would avoid ant Eagles Wrs and only draft westbrook and akers.

I don't think I see your point with this - so what if he does? I have Curtis on a lot of teams *because I targeted him* based on what I saw in the preseason and up at camp. That doesn't bias my opinion, though. I could have drafted Brown as well, but I chose not to based on my belief that Brown may be slightly overvalued and Curtis appears to be undervalued (perhaps substantially).Being a fan, you have to acknowledge that Curtis was targeted far more often in preseason and looked better than Brown in camp. It's not about who's supposed to be better, it's about what appears to be occuring. As a fan, I hope they both do well, but right now to me it looks like Curtis could have the better year.

 

[zadok]

Does Gil Brandt's opinion carry any weight with anyone? In his "top 5 unsung players from the nfc east" he writes:

Reggie Brown, WR, Philadelphia: An incredibly natural athlete, Brown was a high school standout in track and basketball. He's got good speed and vertical jump, and excellent body control. He has no trouble getting off press coverage, will make the tough grab in traffic, and he catches the ball with his hands. He has Pro Bowl potential.

 

[Blackstar]

Bwest ~ 80

Reggie Brown ~70+

LJ ~ 60+

d.) none of the above ~60

 

[duaneok66]

Does Gil Brandt's opinion carry any weight with anyone? In his "top 5 unsung players from the nfc east" he writes:

Reggie Brown, WR, Philadelphia: An incredibly natural athlete, Brown was a high school standout in track and basketball. He's got good speed and vertical jump, and excellent body control. He has no trouble getting off press coverage, will make the tough grab in traffic, and he catches the ball with his hands. He has Pro Bowl potential.

not according to the guys on the Eagles board at KFFL.com . . . they have been on Brown's case for catching the ball with his body all preseason . . .

 

[zadok]

Does Gil Brandt's opinion carry any weight with anyone? In his "top 5 unsung players from the nfc east" he writes:

Reggie Brown, WR, Philadelphia: An incredibly natural athlete, Brown was a high school standout in track and basketball. He's got good speed and vertical jump, and excellent body control. He has no trouble getting off press coverage, will make the tough grab in traffic, and he catches the ball with his hands. He has Pro Bowl potential.

not according to the guys on the Eagles board at KFFL.com . . . they have been on Brown's case for catching the ball with his body all preseason . . .

Well that settles it then... In all seriousness, this anti-Brown rhetoric mystifies me. C'est la vie!

 

[duaneok66]

Does Gil Brandt's opinion carry any weight with anyone? In his "top 5 unsung players from the nfc east" he writes:

Reggie Brown, WR, Philadelphia: An incredibly natural athlete, Brown was a high school standout in track and basketball. He's got good speed and vertical jump, and excellent body control. He has no trouble getting off press coverage, will make the tough grab in traffic, and he catches the ball with his hands. He has Pro Bowl potential.

not according to the guys on the Eagles board at KFFL.com . . . they have been on Brown's case for catching the ball with his body all preseason . . .

Well that settles it then... In all seriousness, this anti-Brown rhetoric mystifies me. C'est la vie!

well, I assume those guys actually watched the preseason Eagles games with a vested interest . . . that's more than I can say for us . . . if you have any insight on his preseason performance, then please share . . .I will hang up and listen . . .

 

[zadok]

Does Gil Brandt's opinion carry any weight with anyone? In his "top 5 unsung players from the nfc east" he writes:

Reggie Brown, WR, Philadelphia: An incredibly natural athlete, Brown was a high school standout in track and basketball. He's got good speed and vertical jump, and excellent body control. He has no trouble getting off press coverage, will make the tough grab in traffic, and he catches the ball with his hands. He has Pro Bowl potential.

not according to the guys on the Eagles board at KFFL.com . . . they have been on Brown's case for catching the ball with his body all preseason . . .

Well that settles it then... In all seriousness, this anti-Brown rhetoric mystifies me. C'est la vie!

well, I assume those guys actually watched the preseason Eagles games with a vested interest . . . that's more than I can say for us . . . if you have any insight on his preseason performance, then please share . . .I will hang up and listen . . .

I thought it was established that I am an Eagles homer and go to camp every year and watch every preseason game and follow every blurb from practice, etc...As I mentioned, Brown looked excellent in camp. Just because he didn't "stand out" in less than 4 quarters of preseason games means nothing.

 

[Fantasy Fix Fred]

Does Gil Brandt's opinion carry any weight with anyone? In his "top 5 unsung players from the nfc east" he writes:

Reggie Brown, WR, Philadelphia: An incredibly natural athlete, Brown was a high school standout in track and basketball. He's got good speed and vertical jump, and excellent body control. He has no trouble getting off press coverage, will make the tough grab in traffic, and he catches the ball with his hands. He has Pro Bowl potential.

not according to the guys on the Eagles board at KFFL.com . . . they have been on Brown's case for catching the ball with his body all preseason . . .

Well that settles it then... In all seriousness, this anti-Brown rhetoric mystifies me. C'est la vie!

well, I assume those guys actually watched the preseason Eagles games with a vested interest . . . that's more than I can say for us . . . if you have any insight on his preseason performance, then please share . . .I will hang up and listen . . .

I will say this.. Reggie Brown and the rest of the eagles "starters" played sparingly in the preseason. This is Curtis' 1st season with Mcnabb so ofcourse McNabb is going to be throwing him the ball more during the preseason. I do like Curtis as an eagles fan and think he will be a decent #3Wr in FF. With that being said, I have neither on my FF team and hope all these people who do own Curtis are right with their 1100 + yds and 10+ TDs, I just dont see it. I'm not projecting stats because the eagles spread the ball around too much. The offense is without T.O. and it isn't as exciting at the WR position.

 

[Blackstar]

From a non-homer Philly resident, Reggie Brown is easily the second best (non-westbrook)WR Dunny has ever had.

You guys are funny with all that "looks good in camp" nonsense.

 

[duaneok66]

Does Gil Brandt's opinion carry any weight with anyone? In his "top 5 unsung players from the nfc east" he writes:

Reggie Brown, WR, Philadelphia: An incredibly natural athlete, Brown was a high school standout in track and basketball. He's got good speed and vertical jump, and excellent body control. He has no trouble getting off press coverage, will make the tough grab in traffic, and he catches the ball with his hands. He has Pro Bowl potential.

not according to the guys on the Eagles board at KFFL.com . . . they have been on Brown's case for catching the ball with his body all preseason . . .

Well that settles it then... In all seriousness, this anti-Brown rhetoric mystifies me. C'est la vie!

well, I assume those guys actually watched the preseason Eagles games with a vested interest . . . that's more than I can say for us . . . if you have any insight on his preseason performance, then please share . . .I will hang up and listen . . .

I thought it was established that I am an Eagles homer and go to camp every year and watch every preseason game and follow every blurb from practice, etc...As I mentioned, Brown looked excellent in camp. Just because he didn't "stand out" in less than 4 quarters of preseason games means nothing.

no one is doubting your credentials; however , when someone criticizes Brown all you say is "he had an excellent camp"can you elaborate??

how do you explain the drops . . .

that's all people are wanting besides quick one liners . . .

thanks in advance (seriously) . . .

 

[Skinsfansince72]

As far as receivers go, it seems Curtis has been getting the first looks. He definately has been targeted more than Reggie this preseason. Curtis also had a strong camp. If you also factor in that Stallworth was CLEARLY the #1 receiver on the Eagles last year. And Curtis is replacing him, playing the same position.The writing is on the wall. Curtis will be the #1 on this team. And I really dont see how there is so much confusion. Reggie is a nice receiver. A solid #2 in the NFL. Funny that he is being drafted a few rounds before Curtis, and this should really be opposite.Savvy owners that draft Curtis and not Brown will be very happy they did so by the end of the season.

Let me guess...You have Kevin Curtis on your fantasy team? Lets be serious here Reggie Brown is looked at as the #1 Wr in Philly. This is Reggie's year to step up as the #1. Curtis is the #2, lets remember he played in the slot in Stl. So if I were drafting an Eagles WR, it would be Brown, but for fantasy I would avoid ant Eagles Wrs and only draft westbrook and akers.

He may be looked at as the number 1(by fans and sports writers) but the truth is that the QB will be deciding that on the field. They guy running his routs, getting open and catching the ball will be number 1. If it's Brown, it's Brown. I seriously doubt they are going to keep going to him if, in fact, he's not producing.I'm not an owner of Brown and drafted Curtis (actually, I reached for him bigtime) assuming his number 2 numbers would be better than some number 1's(I'm on the MCnabb bandwagon though i don't own him).

 

[kensat30]

I think Curtis and Brown have both locked down starting positions in Philly. And I want to own a starting WR that has Donovan McNabb throwing them the ball in an Andy Reid offense.

Stallworth was lights out last year when he was healthy.

Reggie Brown was quietly a top10 WR when McNabb was healthy.

If it all comes together and everyone stays healthy, I think Brown/Curtis BOTH have top15 potential. Brown is decent value, Curtis is downright cheap.

 

[Jason Wood]

There really isn't much mystery in this...

Assuming everyone is healthy:

1) Brian Westbrook

2) Reggie Brown

2a) Kevin Curtis

3) L.J. Smith

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4) Jason Avant

5) Hank Baskett

6) Matt Schobel

7) Correll Buckhalter

8) Brent Celek

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9) G. Lewis

10) Tony Hunt

11) Thomas Tapeh

And a partridge in a pear tree

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

There really isn't much mystery in this...Assuming everyone is healthy:1) Brian Westbrook2) Reggie Brown2a) Kevin Curtis3) L.J. Smith............4) Jason Avant5) Hank Baskett6) Matt Schobel7) Correll Buckhalter8) Brent Celek.........9) G. Lewis10) Tony Hunt11) Thomas TapehAnd a partridge in a pear tree

I would agree with this, except I think Celek may be #6 vs. Schobel.

 

[zadok]

Does Gil Brandt's opinion carry any weight with anyone? In his "top 5 unsung players from the nfc east" he writes:

Reggie Brown, WR, Philadelphia: An incredibly natural athlete, Brown was a high school standout in track and basketball. He's got good speed and vertical jump, and excellent body control. He has no trouble getting off press coverage, will make the tough grab in traffic, and he catches the ball with his hands. He has Pro Bowl potential.

not according to the guys on the Eagles board at KFFL.com . . . they have been on Brown's case for catching the ball with his body all preseason . . .

Well that settles it then... In all seriousness, this anti-Brown rhetoric mystifies me. C'est la vie!

well, I assume those guys actually watched the preseason Eagles games with a vested interest . . . that's more than I can say for us . . . if you have any insight on his preseason performance, then please share . . .I will hang up and listen . . .

I thought it was established that I am an Eagles homer and go to camp every year and watch every preseason game and follow every blurb from practice, etc...As I mentioned, Brown looked excellent in camp. Just because he didn't "stand out" in less than 4 quarters of preseason games means nothing.

no one is doubting your credentials; however , when someone criticizes Brown all you say is "he had an excellent camp"can you elaborate??

how do you explain the drops . . .

that's all people are wanting besides quick one liners . . .

thanks in advance (seriously) . . .

I keep mentioning how Brown was in camp because that is infinitely more valuable in my experience than critiquing partial preseason games. It's not as if he is coming off a major injury like McNabb is, his job is not in jeopardy in any way. As Gil Brandt said, Brown flashed Pro Bowl ability his first 2 years, and he was consistenly getting open all summer with good physicality, moves and speed. In other words, his skills are improving, not degrading. There is no reason not to expect an improvement on his 8 TDs last year (9 total) in this offense. I don't give a rat's behind about preseason drops or penalties. Any worrying about that stuff is typical Philadelphia fans overreating, pay it no mind.

 

[Snotbubbles]

There really isn't much mystery in this...Assuming everyone is healthy:1) Brian Westbrook2) Reggie Brown2a) Kevin Curtis3) L.J. Smith............4) Jason Avant5) Hank Baskett6) Matt Schobel7) Correll Buckhalter8) Brent Celek.........9) G. Lewis10) Tony Hunt11) Thomas TapehAnd a partridge in a pear tree

I would agree with this, except I think Celek may be #6 vs. Schobel.

Don't think so. I think when push comes to shove and in big games Andy will go to the vet over the rookie. While Celek has looked capable, so has Schobel.

 

[Pocket Joker]

Antonio Bryant would be a nice addition, after his suspension

 

[Jason Wood]

Antonio Bryant would be a nice addition, after his suspension

 

[zadok]

Antonio Bryant would be a nice addition, after his suspension

Pretty sure this is a bad joke...