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Scooter1027
Footballguy
Miami suddenly becomes a very logical place for Flynn, who could probably do quite nicely playing in the same basic offense as Green Bay, and having pass catching weapons like Marshall and Bush.
It will be interesting to see just what Miami has in Philbin. In Green Bay, Mike McCarthy called the plays and was generally an offensive minded head coach. And Tom Clements is widely credited for the development of Rodgers and Flynn, who of course make McCarthy's offense tick. It's hard to pinpoint what exactly can be credited directly to Philbin, although he was certainly in the mix for a great offense.
It will be interesting to see just what Miami has in Philbin. In Green Bay, Mike McCarthy called the plays and was generally an offensive minded head coach. And Tom Clements is widely credited for the development of Rodgers and Flynn, who of course make McCarthy's offense tick. It's hard to pinpoint what exactly can be credited directly to Philbin, although he was certainly in the mix for a great offense.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Regis Philbin?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Exactly what I thought.
Insein
Footballguy
Ditto. And not entirely in a joking matter knowing Miami.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
For as dumb as I think he looks with the sharpie in the back of his hat, I have a feeling that Mike McCarthy is one of the best head coaches around and he is going to get some assistants jobs even though they may not be deserving. I may be wrong but I don't see anyone other than McCarthy responsible for the offense in Green Bay, and Philbin may be benefiting, but if he does help lure Flynn down south, then it is a good move for the Phins.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
His ceiling is still about 100 balls, 12-14 ypc, 6-8 TD...and that would be the ceiling IMO. New offense but everyone was so high on him and he still doesn't even own the Miami Dolphins record for most receptions in a season...O.J. McDuffie still owns it with less than 100 balls.
dgreen
Footballguy
His 16-game pace in 2010 would have put him at 98 receptions.Miami has been 16th and 28th in pass attempts in Marshall's two seasons. Another 100 attempts throughout the season (which would have ranked them 13th this year) might mean 25 more receptions and 300+ more yards than we've been seeing.Not sure what Miami's philosophy has been inside the 5, but Philbin could bring a change there, leading to more TD opportunities more Marshall.
Tony Jabroni
Footballguy
Blind, drooling, Packer homer here (typical), but I think you are spot on. This is not to discount the signing at all, but I think a bunch of GB assistants will benefit from the current run. Mccarthy has his paws all over the offense. Philbin installed the weekly gameplan and that is about it. That said, we all know what happened, and it's great to see him move forward. Miami has some pieces, let's see if they complete the puzzle.ETA: FLYNN is really better than people make him out to be. Good luck with that.* *1 or 2 1st round picks. 
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Luke Skywalker
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Is that ya final ansa?
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Flynn predicted to MiamiPosted 13 January 2012 - 04:11 PM'Scooter1027 said:
Where does Peyton Manning, Matt Flynn, RG III and ??? other QBs wind up with the top teams in need of a QB, Cleveland, Washington, and Miami.
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Next Matt Flynn:
I think one of the keys to who gets Flynn is where his OC, Joe Philbin winds up going. Miami has interviewed Philbin and they need a QB. Flynn has worked in and knows the WC, the same offense run in Cleveland and they need a QB and they also need an OC but Philbin hasn’t yet pinged on their radar.
Considering that Jeff Fisher just signed with St. Louis and the Phins have already interviewed Philbin it seems they are angling to make a run for Matt Flynn.
Best guess on where Matt Flynn winds up playing next year? = Miami
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Could be...could be another "Childress"...guy who was under an offensive minded coach and moved on and did not have success as a HC.Though, Rodgers seems to defend Philbin from this line of thinking...and I believe McCarthy has as well. That Philbin does a lot during the week and even adjustments on game day that go into it...and the offense is not all McCarthy's either.That said, its hard to know much about Philbin other than through what those two really say about him.Some assistants have been deserving though...and not just on this year's defense (obviously) but Moss has been talked about as a DC candidate for a while (though, yes, the jump to HC is likely higher because of the rise of the Packers and McKenzie being out in Oakland). Same with Darren Perry. Tom Clements will likely get a shot to move up at some point (could even be the next OC).After this round of departures...if the Packers continue to win as they have, and the defense improves again...Kevin Greene will be next IMO.'FunkyPlutos said:
eric rymer
Footballguy
I am a big supporter of Marshall but even I didn't expect numbers like that with the QB situation in Miami. We have to be a bit realistic here.'Ministry of Pain said:
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sho nuff
Footballguy
He was being sought out before his sin died.I think he may have even interviewed before that. But not sure.
pittstownkiller
Footballguy
I thought much the same but the change of scenery will probably do him and his family good. I also agree that he was probably in contact with MIA, and others, before this.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Miami was sensitive to the issue. His son was fully grown. It wasn't like his son was 9 yrs old and died because he drowned in a back yard pool because of parental negligence. His loss is very tragic but his son made the decision to go out and about.
HAM
Footballguy
I mean.. Really?
Tony Jabroni
Footballguy
It is.
What they’re saying: Insight on new Miami Dolphins coach Joe Philbin
by Ben Volin
Don’t know much about Joe Philbin? You’re not alone. Philbin, 50, has been a football coach for 28 years, but mostly in anonymity – first for 19 years as a college coach at places such as Harvard, Iowa and the Merchant Marine Academy, and for the past nine years with the Packers as an offensive line coach, tight end coach and offensive coordinator.
But even as the coordinator of a team that recently won the Super Bowl, he hasn’t gotten much limelight until being hired by the Dolphins Friday evening as head coach. He wasn’t the offensive playcaller in Green Bay, and was largely overshadowed by head coach Mike McCarthy and star players like Aaron Rodgers.
So here is a little insight about Philbin from people in the know:
Former Packers GM Ron Wolf, now a Jupiter resident:
“He’s a pro’s pro, no-nonsense kind of guy. Very disciplinarian, successful offensive line coach, highly intelligent, has a belief in what he can do, understands offense, understands defensive football, very good with the players, successful evaluator.”
“By and large all they’ve done there (in Green Bay) is win. I think that’s important to bring into an organization, somebody that’s been a winner.”
Packers WR Greg Jennings on Philbin’s role as offensive coordinator to Wisconsin media last week:
“He does a ton. He runs the walk-throughs, the meetings. He’s comfortable being in front of the team. He’s definitely fully capable of being a head coach.”
Packers coach Mike McCarthy last week, talking about the tragedy Philbin recently suffered when his 21-year-old son, Michael, drowned two weeks ago:
“Joe Philbin is a special, special, human being. What Joe has gone through and what his family has gone through, obviously tough is not the proper word. A man of very high character. Joe is a class act. I think the world of Joe Philbin.”
Former Packers Vice President Andrew Brandt:
Describing Philbin on Twitter: “Calm, cerebral, humble and a skilled offensive mind. His style will resonate with players. … Dolphin fans have reason to smile. Joe Philbin’s a skilled offensive mind with great emotional intelligence in handling NFL players.”
In a column he wrote last week on Philbin after the tragedy:
“He has a dry wit, a wry and sometimes sarcastic sense of humor along with a no-ego kindness that becomes clear in the first few moments of knowing him. We would talk about topics far beyond football, as he possesses a large and diverse world-view.
Joe is the antithesis of the stereotype of a screaming, red-faced coach. He is cerebral in his approach, open to suggestions and willing to adapt. Joe is a skilled offensive mind who adds great value to the prolific Packer offense, yet speaks only of how lucky he is to have the talent he has playing for him, often referring to “the thrower,” Aaron Rodgers, as “special.”
Packers beat writer Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, on Twitter:
“Packers best-kept secret is no more. Joe Philbin is out the gate. Apprenticed under (Kirk) Ferentz and McCarthy. More than ready.”
by Ben Volin
Don’t know much about Joe Philbin? You’re not alone. Philbin, 50, has been a football coach for 28 years, but mostly in anonymity – first for 19 years as a college coach at places such as Harvard, Iowa and the Merchant Marine Academy, and for the past nine years with the Packers as an offensive line coach, tight end coach and offensive coordinator.
But even as the coordinator of a team that recently won the Super Bowl, he hasn’t gotten much limelight until being hired by the Dolphins Friday evening as head coach. He wasn’t the offensive playcaller in Green Bay, and was largely overshadowed by head coach Mike McCarthy and star players like Aaron Rodgers.
So here is a little insight about Philbin from people in the know:
Former Packers GM Ron Wolf, now a Jupiter resident:
“He’s a pro’s pro, no-nonsense kind of guy. Very disciplinarian, successful offensive line coach, highly intelligent, has a belief in what he can do, understands offense, understands defensive football, very good with the players, successful evaluator.”
“By and large all they’ve done there (in Green Bay) is win. I think that’s important to bring into an organization, somebody that’s been a winner.”
Packers WR Greg Jennings on Philbin’s role as offensive coordinator to Wisconsin media last week:
“He does a ton. He runs the walk-throughs, the meetings. He’s comfortable being in front of the team. He’s definitely fully capable of being a head coach.”
Packers coach Mike McCarthy last week, talking about the tragedy Philbin recently suffered when his 21-year-old son, Michael, drowned two weeks ago:
“Joe Philbin is a special, special, human being. What Joe has gone through and what his family has gone through, obviously tough is not the proper word. A man of very high character. Joe is a class act. I think the world of Joe Philbin.”
Former Packers Vice President Andrew Brandt:
Describing Philbin on Twitter: “Calm, cerebral, humble and a skilled offensive mind. His style will resonate with players. … Dolphin fans have reason to smile. Joe Philbin’s a skilled offensive mind with great emotional intelligence in handling NFL players.”
In a column he wrote last week on Philbin after the tragedy:
“He has a dry wit, a wry and sometimes sarcastic sense of humor along with a no-ego kindness that becomes clear in the first few moments of knowing him. We would talk about topics far beyond football, as he possesses a large and diverse world-view.
Joe is the antithesis of the stereotype of a screaming, red-faced coach. He is cerebral in his approach, open to suggestions and willing to adapt. Joe is a skilled offensive mind who adds great value to the prolific Packer offense, yet speaks only of how lucky he is to have the talent he has playing for him, often referring to “the thrower,” Aaron Rodgers, as “special.”
Packers beat writer Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, on Twitter:
“Packers best-kept secret is no more. Joe Philbin is out the gate. Apprenticed under (Kirk) Ferentz and McCarthy. More than ready.”
The Kerminator
Footballguy
Philbin made an impression quickly on McCarthy
New Dolphins coach Joe Philbin was a holdover from the Mike Sherman regime, starting as the Packers assistant offensive line coach in 2003. He was promoted to tight ends coach in 2004 while still assisting with the line. Philbin was bumped to offensive line coach in 2006 when Mike McCarthy was hired. In 2007, McCarthy promoted him to offensive coordinator.
The two had no previous relationship, so Philbin made an impression quickly.
“After the first year was just very impressed with him,” McCarthy said. “Knew I had an outstanding football coach and an even better person.”
McCarthy further explained what makes Philbin unique.
“You start personally with his character,” he said. “He’s a family man, a very respected individual on our staff. Professionally, I think he’s an outstanding communicator. Very knowledgeable. Great work ethic.
“He had all the qualities that you’re looking for.”
The last two weeks may have provide a glimpse into that character. Philbin’s son, Michael, drowned in the Fox River a week before the Packers played the Giants in the divisional round of the playoffs. Philbin missed the week, but was back at Lambeau on Saturday and coaching from the box on Sunday. After an unexpected upset, and while still grieving, Philbin was able to prepare for the most important job interview of his life. He has never been a head coach on any level.
“I think Joe is probably one of the most consistent individuals I’ve ever had the opportunity to work with,” McCarthy said. “He’s the same guy every day. Doesn’t overreact to situations. Certainly has his priorities in line.
“He was outstanding from Day 1 all the way to our last day together and I wish him nothing but the best in Miami.”
McCarthy said he won’t get an opportunity to meet with his entire staff until Wednesday, but added he is in no hurry to reconfigure his staff.
“We’re going to take our time and do what’s best,” he said.
New Dolphins coach Joe Philbin was a holdover from the Mike Sherman regime, starting as the Packers assistant offensive line coach in 2003. He was promoted to tight ends coach in 2004 while still assisting with the line. Philbin was bumped to offensive line coach in 2006 when Mike McCarthy was hired. In 2007, McCarthy promoted him to offensive coordinator.
The two had no previous relationship, so Philbin made an impression quickly.
“After the first year was just very impressed with him,” McCarthy said. “Knew I had an outstanding football coach and an even better person.”
McCarthy further explained what makes Philbin unique.
“You start personally with his character,” he said. “He’s a family man, a very respected individual on our staff. Professionally, I think he’s an outstanding communicator. Very knowledgeable. Great work ethic.
“He had all the qualities that you’re looking for.”
The last two weeks may have provide a glimpse into that character. Philbin’s son, Michael, drowned in the Fox River a week before the Packers played the Giants in the divisional round of the playoffs. Philbin missed the week, but was back at Lambeau on Saturday and coaching from the box on Sunday. After an unexpected upset, and while still grieving, Philbin was able to prepare for the most important job interview of his life. He has never been a head coach on any level.
“I think Joe is probably one of the most consistent individuals I’ve ever had the opportunity to work with,” McCarthy said. “He’s the same guy every day. Doesn’t overreact to situations. Certainly has his priorities in line.
“He was outstanding from Day 1 all the way to our last day together and I wish him nothing but the best in Miami.”
McCarthy said he won’t get an opportunity to meet with his entire staff until Wednesday, but added he is in no hurry to reconfigure his staff.
“We’re going to take our time and do what’s best,” he said.
The Kerminator
Footballguy
Philbin interviewed with the Dolphins the week before, during the Packers playoff bye week. Second interview was this week.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
why?
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