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Photo Management (1 Viewer)

ragincajun

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How is everyone here storing their photos nowadays?  Online (Google, Flikr, Apple, etc) or downloaded to an external HD?

 
I am all Apple, so my pictures are entered into the Photos application which automatically uploads them into the Apple Cloud. The nice thing about this is that they are automatically shared between my Mac computers and my iPhone, iPad, etc. You are able to specify how you want them downloaded, so that you can save space on your device, if you need to.

I also backup the machines to a separate service, so I have them saved multiple times.

 
How is everyone here storing their photos nowadays?  Online (Google, Flikr, Apple, etc) or downloaded to an external HD?
I just went through a long process of getting my photos online. Previously, I only uploaded a few cell phone pics to Imgur and Google. All of my dslr photos, I saved to external HDs.

After a great amount of help from some people in this thread, I finally went with SmugMug for all of my online storage & sharing. I also liked Flikr a lot, but had some problems joining for a period of time.

I still save all of my pics to a separate internal hard drive (I use a 1 TB SSD which is mostly empty for all processing/system files) - which I mirror/sync onto 2 external HDs. I also do a full drive backup to a 3rd HD which I store in a fireproof safe. I am thinking of ways to store a copy of this off-site, but have not made a firm decision yet.

If I had fewer photos, it would be a lot easier, but ... such is life.

 
I also backup the machines to a separate service, so I have them saved multiple times.
This is the big thing, imo. Just make sure you have multiple backups in multiple locations and make it as automated as possible. Especially if you can use companies that you trust will be around in a decade. SmugMug may not be as mainstream as Amazon and Google, but it's been around for almost two decades now.

 
Before I started my project to upload all our family videos and pictures, I told my wife we need a HUGE external server to hold all these tons of memories. I settled on a four bay WD server with 4x4tb drives in it and I was hoping this would be enough.  Months go by and I get all of our videos over from VHS and from various sources. I get a ton of our pictures there. I checked how much drive space I used and it was barely 3-4% of the total space  :bag:  

I also backed it up on another 2TB external drive. 

I like this because I know if there is a fire, I can just grab these units and go. It isn't as easy as the cloud, but I like having physical media. 

 
backed up all original photos to a couple of USB hard drives. Good pictures are stored on Google Photos for sharing and in case worst case scenario hits. 

 
I like this because I know if there is a fire, I can just grab these units and go. It isn't as easy as the cloud, but I like having physical media. 
I hope you have at least some of the most valuable memories stored offsite.

If there is a fire there is no telling if you will be home at the time. And even if you are home, depending on the layout of your house you may not be able to access the room with the HDD's in it. I'd like to think I would be calm and rational while my home was burning down.... but honestly I would have no idea how I would react.

As for the rest I would never worry about having TOO MUCH storage. Right now it may be difficult to see ever using all of it but one day in the near future when we are watching 8k video and have 100mb images it'll fill up soon enough. 

 
I am thinking of ways to store a copy of this off-site, but have not made a firm decision yet.
Guessing something along the lines of...

- Dig out that old "Chock Full O' Nutz" coffee can that you used to use as a second bathroom. 

- Place media into can.  Seal.

- Take can in to woods, drawing map of route/locale.  Bury can in unmarked "grave."

- Return home. Memorize map.  Ingest map.

- Defecate remains of map into second coffee can

- Have friend send 2nd can to undisclosed location

- Lobotomize friend

- Repeat ever 6 months

 
Amazon Prime allows unlimited storage.  Thats where we're at right now.  Can't say that I love the format, but its included in the membership.  

We uploaded like 50,000 pictures from the last 10-15 years.  It didn't date tag them or anything like that so they all just there.  I tried to spend a few hours creating albums but it was maddening.  

Auto uploading from your phone is nice though.  I just wipe my phone clean from photos now.  Random screen shots and useless stuff gets uploaded too.  

 
Anyone have a good site for sharing pictures securely? I want to share pictures with parents from my son's HS Marching band. Since they are HS students, I don't want to just place it out so that anyone can get access to them, I need to be able to invite people or something like that. 

 
For those of you that do all of this photo storage how often to you actually go back and look at all these photos you have stored?  I don't ever recall really going over to someone's house and sitting around looking at old photos.  I don't go back and look at old photos of my own.  I remember spending a bunch on wedding photos.  Looked at them a few times right when we go them and now they are in an album somewhere and never really looked at.

I know everyone takes tons of photos these days and posts them places but after the initial look at them do you actually do anything with them again?

 
Before I started my project to upload all our family videos and pictures, I told my wife we need a HUGE external server to hold all these tons of memories. I settled on a four bay WD server with 4x4tb drives in it and I was hoping this would be enough.  Months go by and I get all of our videos over from VHS and from various sources. I get a ton of our pictures there. I checked how much drive space I used and it was barely 3-4% of the total space  :bag:  

I also backed it up on another 2TB external drive. 

I like this because I know if there is a fire, I can just grab these units and go. It isn't as easy as the cloud, but I like having physical media. 
So I guess Courtjester is offering his services to store your photos since he's got plenty of room.  And hope there isn't a fire.

 
Anyone have a good site for sharing pictures securely? I want to share pictures with parents from my son's HS Marching band. Since they are HS students, I don't want to just place it out so that anyone can get access to them, I need to be able to invite people or something like that. 
One of the main reasons that I chose SmugMug is because they have good options for private/secure sharing.

The "Basic" plan ($48/year) offers:

  • Every image backed up with Amazon Web Services
  • Cloud storage allows access anytime, from anywhere
  • Copyright is always yours
  • Download your original photos and gallery backups at any time
  • Password protect folders, galleries, pages, or your whole site
  • Limit visibility to folders, galleries, and pages to only those with whom you’ve shared a link
  • Make any folder, gallery, or page completely private
  • Opt out of search engines
  • Limit display size to keep originals safe
  • Create anonymous galleries to share with the world
The "Power" plan ($72/year) adds:

  • Set a custom right-click message for your images
  • Limit access to your folders, galleries, pages, and site to specific people you choose 
The items that I bold above are the ones that I have found most useful.

Password protection is easy to set up and does the job well.

Limited visibility (unlisted) is nice for sharing stuff semi-privately. Anyone who has the link can view the media, but it does not appear on the site as normal "listed" media; and it is not "searchable" on site by visitors. When you combine this with the "opt out of search engines" settings, it removes the media from things like Google searches. 

The private option is for storing media that no one can view but the account holder(s) (e.g. anyone with the account id and password.) I use this for my backup storage areas.

The limited access option is nice for family members because it gets around having to login with a password regularly by using an invite by e-mail. However, I believe the max number of e-mails allowed is currently at 200. So, if you have a larger number of people you want to share with, the password option is better.

One other thing I really like is the ability to turn off right-click saving on any page. People can still do a screenshot, but ... heck, if they want it that much, more power to 'em.

Other plan details can be found here. I don't have any kind of code to offer, cause I don't participate in those kind of things (hate trying to market to friends). Also, I can't speak for the options available at other hosts - so, I'm not saying this is the best. However, it is the best host that I was able to find for my own needs.

Let me know if have any other questions; I'd be happy to go into more detail on other things.

Good luck.

 
Guessing something along the lines of...

- Dig out that old "Chock Full O' Nutz" coffee can that you used to use as a second bathroom. 

- Place media into can.  Seal.

- Take can in to woods, drawing map of route/locale.  Bury can in unmarked "grave."

- Return home. Memorize map.  Ingest map.

- Defecate remains of map into second coffee can

- Have friend send 2nd can to undisclosed location

- Lobotomize friend

- Repeat ever 6 months
Hey, GB - my 2nd coffee can is in the mail - be sure the locale you send it to is undisclosed!

We can meet in Vegas later - for the procedure.

Question: do you think having your skull drilled every 6 months will be like saving a JPG over and over and over ...

I mean - I do worry about your lossy status and all that. Maybe they have a TIFF lobotomy available ... that may work - no?

 
For those of you that do all of this photo storage how often to you actually go back and look at all these photos you have stored?  I don't ever recall really going over to someone's house and sitting around looking at old photos.  I don't go back and look at old photos of my own.  I remember spending a bunch on wedding photos.  Looked at them a few times right when we go them and now they are in an album somewhere and never really looked at.

I know everyone takes tons of photos these days and posts them places but after the initial look at them do you actually do anything with them again?
I think that I view my photos pretty often, but it is usually when I have a reason to share them. This usually occurs when something comes up in a conversation/thread, and I remember a pic I have that is related. Sometimes it is like you describe - I share soon after taking; but don't see them again for a long while. Other times, I find a reason to share an old scanned print from the 80's - over and over.

Finally, my family always had a weekly slide-show/movie night when I was a kid. We don't do it nearly as often now, but just last week, I did a show for my mom and dad. I think that we will repeat it for Thanksgiving (different photos tho).

 
I think that I view my photos pretty often, but it is usually when I have a reason to share them. This usually occurs when something comes up in a conversation/thread, and I remember a pic I have that is related. Sometimes it is like you describe - I share soon after taking; but don't see them again for a long while. Other times, I find a reason to share an old scanned print from the 80's - over and over.

Finally, my family always had a weekly slide-show/movie night when I was a kid. We don't do it nearly as often now, but just last week, I did a show for my mom and dad. I think that we will repeat it for Thanksgiving (different photos tho).
I just think in general you would be an exception.  I like the idea of the family slide show around holidays.  That would be a good tradition but I am guessing that is probably fairly rare. 

I think photo storage can be a lot of work (if done properly and organized) and I doubt it is worth the time and effort for most people because once taken they are forgotten. 

On a similar subject I always see a lot of people filming the action at something like a sporting event.  I have been guilty of this a couple times but I never really go back and look at it and then I actually miss being present in the moment when it is happening so I don't really get that memory either.  When I have looked at the video I have taken it is generally ok but really doesn't capture the event.  Because of that I have sworn off doing that now so I can experience the event live (which is why I am there in the first place).  I find that to be much more rewarding for me. 

 
On a similar subject I always see a lot of people filming the action at something like a sporting event.  I have been guilty of this a couple times but I never really go back and look at it and then I actually miss being present in the moment when it is happening so I don't really get that memory either.  When I have looked at the video I have taken it is generally ok but really doesn't capture the event.  Because of that I have sworn off doing that now so I can experience the event live (which is why I am there in the first place).  I find that to be much more rewarding for me. 
FWIW - I regret not doing more videos of my kids in everyday life type things. I have videos at staged performances and sports, but not much in between.  While I don't think I would be watching them tons, I do go back and watch the ones I do have when they were toddlers.   I'm glad I have those and was genuinely bummed when a couple of videos got corrupted. 

 
On a similar subject I always see a lot of people filming the action at something like a sporting event.  I have been guilty of this a couple times but I never really go back and look at it and then I actually miss being present in the moment when it is happening so I don't really get that memory either.  When I have looked at the video I have taken it is generally ok but really doesn't capture the event.  Because of that I have sworn off doing that now so I can experience the event live (which is why I am there in the first place).  I find that to be much more rewarding for me. 
FWIW - I regret not doing more videos of my kids in everyday life type things. I have videos at staged performances and sports, but not much in between.  While I don't think I would be watching them tons, I do go back and watch the ones I do have when they were toddlers.   I'm glad I have those and was genuinely bummed when a couple of videos got corrupted. 
It's interesting, since I have become my sons' HS marching band's 'photographer,' I have found that I don't get to see their performances as much. I am concentrating on getting good pictures, rather than taking in the performance. On the one hand I really enjoy doing it, because it gets me closer to and more involved with the people in the band (kids and parents), but on the other hand it sux to not see the performances as well. I think I will have to get a decent video camera for next season, so I can have someone take good video to share with parents that can't make the shows (and me too!).

 
FWIW - I regret not doing more videos of my kids in everyday life type things. I have videos at staged performances and sports, but not much in between.  While I don't think I would be watching them tons, I do go back and watch the ones I do have when they were toddlers.   I'm glad I have those and was genuinely bummed when a couple of videos got corrupted. 
I think videos of your own kids is a bit different than the point I was making because kids change so much it is nice to have videos as they are growing up.  Ideally it would be nice to have a videographer doing the work so you can get the live experience and have it on video..hahahah. 

I see the purpose of filming your kids.  I don't get the purpose of filming a professional sporting event type situation instead of just experiencing it. 

 
I think videos of your own kids is a bit different than the point I was making because kids change so much it is nice to have videos as they are growing up.  Ideally it would be nice to have a videographer doing the work so you can get the live experience and have it on video..hahahah. 

I see the purpose of filming your kids.  I don't get the purpose of filming a professional sporting event type situation instead of just experiencing it. 
So you don't wanna see my iPhone videos of Tone Loc at the county fair? 

 
I've got an external hard drive I use for storing photos. Probably past due to make sure I have all of them backed up off the laptop at home. Good reminder here...

 
I hope you have at least some of the most valuable memories stored offsite.

If there is a fire there is no telling if you will be home at the time. And even if you are home, depending on the layout of your house you may not be able to access the room with the HDD's in it. I'd like to think I would be calm and rational while my home was burning down.... but honestly I would have no idea how I would react.

As for the rest I would never worry about having TOO MUCH storage. Right now it may be difficult to see ever using all of it but one day in the near future when we are watching 8k video and have 100mb images it'll fill up soon enough. 
keep the external drive/backup in a firesafe.

 
I just think in general you would be an exception.  I like the idea of the family slide show around holidays.  That would be a good tradition but I am guessing that is probably fairly rare. 

I think photo storage can be a lot of work (if done properly and organized) and I doubt it is worth the time and effort for most people because once taken they are forgotten. 

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Thnx, and I agree that I am exception. 

Regarding the "work" - yeah, it was a pretty major project to get the system set up, but it is now streamlined and is really pretty simple to maintain. I do understand that most would find it over-kill, but now it is much easier to view things at a moments notice. In the past, the effort required to find something buried in my HDDs would dissuade me. Now, everything is just a click away and searchable by date, metadata, keyword tags or any text in the title, caption or file name. 

So far, I am very satisfied with the service.

 
I've got an external hard drive I use for storing photos. Probably past due to make sure I have all of them backed up off the laptop at home. Good reminder here...
I just thought of something that really made things easier for me. As I said above, I backup to multiple HDDs in addition to the online backups. In order to take the "remembering" out of the equation, I use the free version of AOMEI Backupper.

I then schedule my backups to run once a week (different days for each).

It also has a sync/mirror option that I manually run (one click on desktop icon) every time I edit or add photos. This keeps a mirror of my photo files that is only updated with changes since the last sync. It is fast, and the mirror is as easy to access as the original files, since it is a copy rather than a "backup" - no need to "restore".

 

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