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Osiris Rex about to launch.
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MISSION OVERVIEW

OSIRIS-REx will launch from Cape Canaveral, Florida, on an Atlas V 411 rocket during a 34-day launch period starting Sept. 8, 2016. OSIRIS-REx will orbit the sun for a year, then use Earth’s gravitational field to assist it on its way to Bennu. In August 2018, OSIRIS-REx’s approach to Bennu will begin. It will use an array of small rocket thrusters to match the velocity of Bennu and rendezvous with the asteroid.

The spacecraft will begin a detailed survey of Bennu two months after slowing to encounter Bennu. The process will last over a year, and, as part of it, OSIRIS-REx will map potential sample sites. After the selection of the final site, the spacecraft will briefly touch the surface of Bennu to retrieve a sample. The sampling arm will make contact with the surface of Bennu for about five seconds, during which it will release a burst of nitrogen gas. The procedure will cause rocks and surface soil to be stirred up and captured in the sampler head. The spacecraft has enough nitrogen to allow three sampling attempts, to collect between 60 and 2000 grams 2–70 ounces (60–2000) grams.

In March 2021, the window for departure from the asteroid will open, and OSIRIS-REx will begin its return journey to Earth, arriving two and a half years later in September 2023. The sample return capsule will separate from the spacecraft and enter the Earth’s atmosphere. The capsule containing the sample will be collected at the Utah Test and Training Range. For two years after the sample return (from late 2023-2025) the science team will catalog the sample and conduct the analysis needed to meet the mission science goals. NASA will preserve at least 75% of the sample at NASA’s Johnson Space Flight Center in Houston for further research by scientists worldwide, including future generations of scientists.

 
This is probably the right thread for this.  Do the lyrics to "The Final Countdown" bother you too?...

We're heading for Venus (Venus)And still we stand tall'Cause maybe they've seen us (seen us)And welcome us all, yeahWith so many light years to goAnd things to be found (to be found)

 
:shrug:   Maybe I am still  :whoosh:  I assumed by "use for something else" you meant for drinking.  The intention of my reply was...why couldn't you drink it?  

What am I missing?
He said they would :shudder: burn it

ETA: I was going for subtle. Apparently I missed

 
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I'm shuked. 

How can carbon dioxide be converted to ethanol just by running it through copper nanotubes? It sounds like a fantastic possibility for our planet,  and I'd  love to see progress,  im just not seeing at all how it works? 
I won't claim to be an expert on this process, so take this as an informal description.  Carbon dioxide is a very stable compound.  Ultimately, the CO2 is being broken down through an electrochemical process...using electricity to break down the CO2 molecules in the presence of hydrogen.  Once the CO2 is broken down into to a more reactive state, several new molecules containing carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen can be formed, including ethanol. The copper essentially serves as a catalyst for the reactions that occur.  I know copper foam has been used for a few years in this type of research.  The copper nanoparticles do essentially the same thing as the foam.  These forms of copper provide significantly larger numbers of active sites where these reactions can occur in comparison to using something like a smooth sheet of copper as an electrode.

 
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I won't claim to be an expert on this process, so take this as an informal description.  Carbon dioxide is a very stable compound.  Ultimately, the CO2 is being broken down through an electrochemical process...using electricity to break down the CO2 molecules in the presence of hydrogen.  Once the CO2 is broken down into to a more reactive state, several new molecules containing carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen can be formed, including ethanol. The copper essentially serves as a catalyst for the reactions that occur.  I know copper foam has been used for a few years in this type of research.  The copper nanoparticles do essentially the same thing as the foam.  These forms of copper provide significantly larger numbers of active sites where these reactions can occur in comparison to using something like a smooth sheet of copper as an electrode.
Pssht,  like I'm going to listen to a guy named Galileo 

 
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I won't claim to be an expert on this process, so take this as an informal description.  Carbon dioxide is a very stable compound.  Ultimately, the CO2 is being broken down through an electrochemical process...using electricity to break down the CO2 molecules in the presence of hydrogen.  Once the CO2 is broken down into to a more reactive state, several new molecules containing carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen can be formed, including ethanol. The copper essentially serves as a catalyst for the reactions that occur.  I know copper foam has been used for a few years in this type of research.  The copper nanoparticles do essentially the same thing as the foam.  These forms of copper provide significantly larger numbers of active sites where these reactions can occur in comparison to using something like a smooth sheet of copper as an electrode.
Snark aside,  where does the energy come from? The article says this happens at room temperature.  Do we still need do zap it with electricity? 

 
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Snark aside,  where does the energy come from? The article says this happens at room temperature.  Do we still need do zap it with electricity? 
Yes, there would need to be an electrical energy input.  The combustion of ethanol (ethanol and oxygen molecules are broken up and reassembled into new molecules of CO2 and H2O) is an exothermic process overall, so I suppose the process of putting together the ethanol molecule should be an endothermic one.  

 
pretty psyched about the euro-ruskie mars rover landing tomorrow... hopefully.
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appears to have crashed onto the surface, possibly deploying its parachute too early. interesting part earlier in the article talks about Beagle 2, which also went radio-silent on descent and was feared lost... NASA's mars orbiter later found it had landed intact, but had just failed to unfurl its solar panels to generate the power required to phone home. so hopefully the rover russia sends in 2020 will find the same situation and be able to somehow tap into the data the thing collected (only had battery power for 10 days... which seems bizarre- spend a gazillion rubles and manhours to send this thing up there, but can't design a way to incorporate a longer lasting battery?... or better landing system)

 from Wired: 

... the Schiaparelli lander of the Euro-Russian ExoMars mission on October 19 this year. Though the ExoMars Trace Gas Orbiter got into Mars orbit comfortably, the lander appears to have crashed on the martian surface.

This time, however, there was confirmation – as well as live transmission as the lander descended, thanks to the world’s largest telescope of its kind located in Maharashtra, India.

A world-class telescope

The National Centre for Radio Astrophysics (NCRA) to the city’s north is home to the aptly named Giant Metre-wave Radio Telescope (GMRT). Built at $20 million and going operational in 1995, the GMRT is actually an array of 30 telescopes each observing radiation coming in from space with a wavelength in the order of metres – or radio-frequency. The telescopes rely on a technique called aperture synthesis to make their studies. The larger a telescope’s antenna is, the higher the resolution with which it can observe its targets. Aperture synthesis allows multiple telescopes to act as a single giant antenna, where the size of the antenna is the distance between the most separated telescopes in the network. In the case of GMRT, this is 25 km.

There is no telescope bigger than the GMRT when it comes to observing in the metre wavelength, which corresponds to radio waves. It is often used to study distant galaxies, blackholes, quasars and other high-energy cosmic objects billions of lightyears away. And because of its sensitivity, the GMRT can also be used to detect faint radio signals coming from objects closer to Earth – for example, a lander descending on Mars.

“It wasn’t that the technology didn’t exist,” Jonathan McDowell, an astrophysicist at the Centre for Astrophysics at Harvard University, told The Wire. “In the earlier landing failures, there was no live radio link with Earth. I think this was mostly to save money. They didn’t put a transmitter on the probes that was strong enough to reach Earth.” However, after the failures in 1999 and 2003, it became imperative to be able to understand how landers failed so frequently. “After those losses, people realised it was a very bad idea not to have a radio link, you just don’t know what went wrong if it failed.”
In the case of the Schiaparelli lander of the ExoMars mission, scientists found that a software glitch could have forced the lander’s parachute to separate sooner than necessary, causing the lander to crash at 300 km/hr. This information wouldn’t have been available now if not for the GMRT.

 
Landing on Mars is hard.  Probably about a 60% success rate right now with the US being the most successful.  Interestingly software issues are equally likely to be the root cause as the mechanical hardware.  I bet that's typical of most complex product failure though too.

 
Artificial diamonds can turn some radioactive waste to thousand year battieries

Diamond power

 However, they are now working to significantly improve efficiency by utilising carbon-14, a radioactive version of carbon, which is generated in graphite blocks used to moderate the reaction in nuclear power plants. Research by academics at Bristol has shown that the radioactive carbon-14 is concentrated at the surface of these blocks, making it possible to process it to remove the majority of the radioactive material. The extracted carbon-14 is then incorporated into a diamond to produce a nuclear-powered battery

 
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Am I the only one who gets way too excited when this thread gets bumped? I love hearing about new discoveries in astronomy specifically and science in general. 

 
Am I the only one who gets way too excited when this thread gets bumped? I love hearing about new discoveries in astronomy specifically and science in general. 
Nope. We are getting real close to finding truly inhabitable planets with the correct mix of temp and atmosphere. After that, everyone will find out what I already know and that is that the bible thumpers can toss their little book in the trash as it will become obsolete.

 
Nope. We are getting real close to finding truly inhabitable planets with the correct mix of temp and atmosphere. After that, everyone will find out what I already know and that is that the bible thumpers can toss their little book in the trash as it will become obsolete.
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