Picking a draft order - new idea!? (1 Viewer)

[djdano]

Just to add some theatrics to Draft Day, every owner will choose a large balloon with a piece of paper inside (#1-12), and everybody sits on them at the same time to find their piece of paper!

But here's the twist ...

THE LUCKY OWNER OF PIECE OF PAPER #1 DOESNT AUTOMATICALLY DRAFT IN THE #1 POSITION ... HE/SHE GETS FIRST CHOICE OF DRAFTING POSITION - SO HE/SHE CAN SELECT POSITION 2, 6 OR EVEN 12!

Anybody have any experience with this "twist" in a draft?

Are there any downsides?

As Commissioner, I like to keep things interesting, and hope this will help!

 

[Reagan]

Just to add some theatrics to Draft Day, every owner will choose a large balloon with a piece of paper inside (#1-12), and everybody sits on them at the same time to find their piece of paper!

But here's the twist ...

THE LUCKY OWNER OF PIECE OF PAPER #1 DOESNT AUTOMATICALLY DRAFT IN THE #1 POSITION ... HE/SHE GETS FIRST CHOICE OF DRAFTING POSITION - SO HE/SHE CAN SELECT POSITION 2, 6 OR EVEN 12!

Anybody have any experience with this "twist" in a draft?

Are there any downsides?

As Commissioner, I like to keep things interesting, and hope this will help!

Many would prefer to know the draft order ahead of time to plan, but some will like the surprise element. I like the idea of choosing your draft order. Good to change things up sometimes.

 

[Jayrod]

The coolest thing I've ever seen for determining draft order was in a startup dynasty we did last year.

We did a draft position auction. Each owner had $150 to spend on all 30 rounds. They had to spend at least $1 on each round, so there was $120 to play with.

Basically each owner submitted their bids for all 30 rounds to the commish like a blind bid, not having any idea what anyone else bid. Then he pitted each owners bids against each other by round to determine draft order.

Whoever bid the most on the first round got the first pick, whoever bid the 2nd most got the 2nd pick, etc. This was done for each round individually. Ties were broken by reverse of prior round (except for the first round, which would have been by coin flip, but it didn't happen). It worked out great and no one was upset with the results. You pretty much got the draft picks you paid for and there were no "luck of the draw" advantages or disadvantages. Some spots came down to just a dollar, while other places guys way overbid the next spot. Some guys came up with highly strategic plans, while others just fiddled with the numbers a couple of times and turned them in.

 

[Mo_Steel]

The coolest thing I've ever seen for determining draft order was in a startup dynasty we did last year.We did a draft position auction. Each owner had $150 to spend on all 30 rounds. They had to spend at least $1 on each round, so there was $120 to play with.Basically each owner submitted their bids for all 30 rounds to the commish like a blind bid, not having any idea what anyone else bid. Then he pitted each owners bids against each other by round to determine draft order.Whoever bid the most on the first round got the first pick, whoever bid the 2nd most got the 2nd pick, etc. This was done for each round individually. Ties were broken by reverse of prior round (except for the first round, which would have been by coin flip, but it didn't happen). It worked out great and no one was upset with the results. You pretty much got the draft picks you paid for and there were no "luck of the draw" advantages or disadvantages. Some spots came down to just a dollar, while other places guys way overbid the next spot. Some guys came up with highly strategic plans, while others just fiddled with the numbers a couple of times and turned them in.

As a member of this same league, everyone pretty much enjoyed this format. I like it much better then the auction format provided on My fantasy league which is a free for all. Take a look at this and it gives the bernefit of the auction as well as then draft strategy as you pick all over.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

I really like the auction bidding draft order idea above. Only downfall is that it seems a little time consuming.

 

[Jayrod]

I really like the auction bidding draft order idea above. Only downfall is that it seems a little time consuming.

We did it wayyy before the draft.It was mostly time consuming for the commish, but it was his idea.The rest of the owners simply had to submit an e-mail that was basically like:1 - $702 - $353 - $25etc... for 30 rounds.Some guys (like myself) put a lot of time and effort into it and really analyzed it.Other guys simply put a list of numbers down and e-mailed it in a matter of minutes.BTW, quit stakling me, Mo_steel.......

 

[Bushead]

Just to add some theatrics to Draft Day, every owner will choose a large balloon with a piece of paper inside (#1-12), and everybody sits on them at the same time to find their piece of paper!

But here's the twist ...

THE LUCKY OWNER OF PIECE OF PAPER #1 DOESNT AUTOMATICALLY DRAFT IN THE #1 POSITION ... HE/SHE GETS FIRST CHOICE OF DRAFTING POSITION - SO HE/SHE CAN SELECT POSITION 2, 6 OR EVEN 12!

Anybody have any experience with this "twist" in a draft?

Are there any downsides?

As Commissioner, I like to keep things interesting, and hope this will help!

My league has been doing this for a couple of years. However, we pick our numbers sometime during the summer and choose draft slots right before the pre-season (I think it starts August 4th this year). Every day the next person in line picks their draft slot, so it takes 12 days to get through. The other twist we have is that your draft slot also determines your divsion - we have 3 divisions. Slots 1-4 are division A, 5-8 divsion B, 9-12 division C.

 

[Godsbrother]

Just to add some theatrics to Draft Day, every owner will choose a large balloon with a piece of paper inside (#1-12), and everybody sits on them at the same time to find their piece of paper!

But here's the twist ...

THE LUCKY OWNER OF PIECE OF PAPER #1 DOESNT AUTOMATICALLY DRAFT IN THE #1 POSITION ... HE/SHE GETS FIRST CHOICE OF DRAFTING POSITION - SO HE/SHE CAN SELECT POSITION 2, 6 OR EVEN 12!

Anybody have any experience with this "twist" in a draft?

Are there any downsides?

As Commissioner, I like to keep things interesting, and hope this will help!

Not a new twist at all. We've always allowed the guy who picks the ace to choose his position in the draft, the deuce gets the second choice, etc. We do it at our summer meeting (approx one month before the draft) so everyone knows where they are picking ahead of time.BTW - I think the sitting on the balloon idea is dumb.

 

[Captain Hook]

NFFC uses a process similar to orginal post - before the leagues are drawn, each owner submits a preference list of their draft spots. Some might just go 1-14, while others prefer to be at the back if they don't get a very early pick. After the entrants are broken into leagues they are randomly drawn and first guy gets his # choice; next guy gets highest remaining on his list; etc. So every participant gets some extra input regarding their draft slot via the preference listing (called KDS after Kentucky Derby system).

Of course I know a local league in SoCal that plays a night of Texas Hold Em to determine the drafts slots - so the lucky get luckier.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Just to add some theatrics to Draft Day, every owner will choose a large balloon with a piece of paper inside (#1-12), and everybody sits on them at the same time to find their piece of paper!

But here's the twist ...

THE LUCKY OWNER OF PIECE OF PAPER #1 DOESNT AUTOMATICALLY DRAFT IN THE #1 POSITION ... HE/SHE GETS FIRST CHOICE OF DRAFTING POSITION - SO HE/SHE CAN SELECT POSITION 2, 6 OR EVEN 12!

Anybody have any experience with this "twist" in a draft?

Are there any downsides?

As Commissioner, I like to keep things interesting, and hope this will help!

My league has been doing this for a couple of years. However, we pick our numbers sometime during the summer and choose draft slots right before the pre-season (I think it starts August 4th this year). Every day the next person in line picks their draft slot, so it takes 12 days to get through. The other twist we have is that your draft slot also determines your divsion - we have 3 divisions. Slots 1-4 are division A, 5-8 divsion B, 9-12 division C.

I am not a fan of determining your divisons this way.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

in the past we have gotten together for a 12 man golf tourny.....with handicaps......winner gets choice and so on down the line....makes for a good day of golf and football/smack talk.....

eta: I also think the ballon thing is little iffy....watch out for the huge cans of Mil Best Lite that will be coming through the roof.....kinda sounds like something chicks do at a wedding shower or something

 

[simsarge]

in the past we have gotten together for a 12 man golf tourny.....with handicaps......winner gets choice and so on down the line....makes for a good day of golf and football/smack talk.....eta: I also think the ballon thing is little iffy....watch out for the huge cans of Mil Best Lite that will be coming through the roof.....kinda sounds like something chicks do at a wedding shower or something

How 'bout putting the papers ina pinata?

 

[puckalicious]

Just to add some theatrics to Draft Day, every owner will choose a large balloon with a piece of paper inside (#1-12), and everybody sits on them at the same time to find their piece of paper!

But here's the twist ...

THE LUCKY OWNER OF PIECE OF PAPER #1 DOESNT AUTOMATICALLY DRAFT IN THE #1 POSITION ... HE/SHE GETS FIRST CHOICE OF DRAFTING POSITION - SO HE/SHE CAN SELECT POSITION 2, 6 OR EVEN 12!

Anybody have any experience with this "twist" in a draft?

Are there any downsides?

As Commissioner, I like to keep things interesting, and hope this will help!

Is it really that boring to draw numbers out of a hat that you feel the need to go all bozo the clown on it? I don't get it.We do the same thing though with your # representing your pick order that you then use to pick your draft order. We are in the middle of an email chain right now for this year, I got #11 so I'll probably end up with draft slot #11.

I am not a fan of determining your divisons this way.

We do the divisions based on draft order also, but it is 1-4-7-10 in one div, 2-5-8-11, and 3-6-9-12. I am open to hearing about how other leagues pick the division members if it is not based on the draft order in some way.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Just to add some theatrics to Draft Day, every owner will choose a large balloon with a piece of paper inside (#1-12), and everybody sits on them at the same time to find their piece of paper!

But here's the twist ...

THE LUCKY OWNER OF PIECE OF PAPER #1 DOESNT AUTOMATICALLY DRAFT IN THE #1 POSITION ... HE/SHE GETS FIRST CHOICE OF DRAFTING POSITION - SO HE/SHE CAN SELECT POSITION 2, 6 OR EVEN 12!

Anybody have any experience with this "twist" in a draft?

Are there any downsides?

As Commissioner, I like to keep things interesting, and hope this will help!

Is it really that boring to draw numbers out of a hat that you feel the need to go all bozo the clown on it? I don't get it.We do the same thing though with your # representing your pick order that you then use to pick your draft order. We are in the middle of an email chain right now for this year, I got #11 so I'll probably end up with draft slot #11.

I am not a fan of determining your divisons this way.

We do the divisions based on draft order also, but it is 1-4-7-10 in one div, 2-5-8-11, and 3-6-9-12. I am open to hearing about how other leagues pick the division members if it is not based on the draft order in some way.

we do this totally randomly as well.....right before the draft......unless we get to drunk off the keg and forget, then it is afterwards....some guys like to do it before, because then they know who is in their division and who they will play twice....probably because they think that say if they are in the division with the guy that took Brady, maybe they will then take a NE WR instead of another guy if they are ranked close

 

[Lash]

divisions in a serpentine redraft should always be 1-4, 5-8, 9-12

or do you guys think a guy should be lucky enuff to draw LT AND then lucky enuff to draw drafters 8, 9, and 11 and then just say "aww shucks it's just the luck o' the draw" ?

no - make it fair step up and quit being so random

now, if you have taken measures to make the draft fair, (3RR, 3RS, double-snake, etc) then by all means divisions could be random

 

[stevegamer]

Just to add some theatrics to Draft Day, every owner will choose a large balloon with a piece of paper inside (#1-12), and everybody sits on them at the same time to find their piece of paper!

But here's the twist ...

THE LUCKY OWNER OF PIECE OF PAPER #1 DOESNT AUTOMATICALLY DRAFT IN THE #1 POSITION ... HE/SHE GETS FIRST CHOICE OF DRAFTING POSITION - SO HE/SHE CAN SELECT POSITION 2, 6 OR EVEN 12!

Anybody have any experience with this "twist" in a draft?

Are there any downsides?

As Commissioner, I like to keep things interesting, and hope this will help!

We do this all the time. You can get the same results using an on-line dice roller or something like that. My main redraft gives the toilet bowl winner first choice, and proceeds through those teams, and the defending champ gets what's left.You can do this and still have the order known before draft day - however, if you guys like theatrics, you could do this at the end of the season. Have the baloons popped, and set the order. Worst team gets first baloon choice.

 

[Lash]

p.s. i forgot to add the MOST fair way

divisionless

example: 14-team league play everyone once in 13 weeks and play wks 14,15,16 playoffs

 

[stevegamer]

divisions in a serpentine redraft should always be 1-4, 5-8, 9-12

or do you guys think a guy should be lucky enuff to draw LT AND then lucky enuff to draw drafters 8, 9, and 11 and then just say "aww shucks it's just the luck o' the draw" ?

no - make it fair step up and quit being so random

now, if you have taken measures to make the draft fair, (3RR, 3RS, double-snake, etc) then by all means divisions could be random

Meh. The guy/gal drafting first needs to be worried about me if I'm drafting 8,9, or 11. I don't worry about who's in my division. I just put together a team that can win from any draft slot.

 

[Rounders]

We do the pick your draft slot every year, but this year instead of picking cards we are doing it a little different.

I put each team name in a sealed envelope, then last year's champion comes to a table and mixes the envelopes up and places a #1 on one of the envelopes, then the runner up comes to the table and writes a #2 on another envelope. This continues until all envelopes have numbers. Then we open the envelopes from 10-1 (a la NBA Lottery). This will hopefully create a little suspense for the #1 pick.

 

[Bushead]

divisions in a serpentine redraft should always be 1-4, 5-8, 9-12

or do you guys think a guy should be lucky enuff to draw LT AND then lucky enuff to draw drafters 8, 9, and 11 and then just say "aww shucks it's just the luck o' the draw" ?

no - make it fair step up and quit being so random

now, if you have taken measures to make the draft fair, (3RR, 3RS, double-snake, etc) then by all means divisions could be random

Ours is a serpentine. My suggestion of a 3RR, 3RS, etc, was shot down this year. To me having the division aspect adds some interest in the draft order selection process. We used to do it without the division tie-in, but it seemed every year at least the first 10 picks went right in order 1-10, maybe the 11th guy would move to 12 to get the back to back picks. Now, people tend to evaluate it a bit more, looking at who is already in certain divsions, what keepers they may have (we keep up to 3), etc. as well as who they may pick and now the order jumps around a bit more - particularly around the divsion splits, i.e. guy picking 4th may move to draft slot 5 to get out of divsion A (or into divsion B depending on how you look at it).

 

[puckalicious]

divisions in a serpentine redraft should always be 1-4, 5-8, 9-12

or do you guys think a guy should be lucky enuff to draw LT AND then lucky enuff to draw drafters 8, 9, and 11 and then just say "aww shucks it's just the luck o' the draw" ?

no - make it fair step up and quit being so random

now, if you have taken measures to make the draft fair, (3RR, 3RS, double-snake, etc) then by all means divisions could be random

It obviously hasn't been unfair in my league as the #1 seed has won only once in 7 years. On the other hand, the #7 seed won twice... in a row. And it was the same guy. So it really is about the quality of your draft, not the draft spot. Oh, and alot of luck in weeks 14-16.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

in a redraft there is no reason why the divisions have to be 1-4, 5-8, 9-12

the fact that the #1 could end up in the same division as #10, #11, and #12 makes no difference

 

[RabidSniper4]

We do the pick your draft slot every year, but this year instead of picking cards we are doing it a little different.I put each team name in a sealed envelope, then last year's champion comes to a table and mixes the envelopes up and places a #1 on one of the envelopes, then the runner up comes to the table and writes a #2 on another envelope. This continues until all envelopes have numbers. Then we open the envelopes from 10-1 (a la NBA Lottery). This will hopefully create a little suspense for the #1 pick.

I like this idea. I think my local league will try this one out this year. As far as knowing your draft spot before the draft, most of the guys in my league would rather wait until draft day to find out. Gotta make them happy.