Play Bryce? (1 Viewer)

[packseasontix]

*UPDATED

So for all you just wanting to put him in your lineup with other good options.

Historically -

Bryce's game is #23 for most yards in a game in a rookie season

What did I do?

I took the number 15 through 30 most rushing yards in a game and looked at the very next game.

Average of 15-30

Attempts - 20

Yards - 96.6

TDs - 1

Average of 15-30 if you exclude (Mike Anderson '00 - 37/251/4 and Eric Dickerson '83 - 30/199/3)

Also excluded two lowest totals (Fred Taylor '98 - 20/42/1 and Rueben Mayes '86 - 4/-2/0)

Attempts - 19.3

Yards - 87.2

TDs - 0.63

*why did I exclude these? they are outliers in attempts/yards/tds so they are more of an exception instead of the average that can be expected when taking a sample of this size

Who?

15 Julius Jones 2004

16 Mike Anderson 2000

17 Eric Dickerson* 1983

18 Brad Hubbert 1967

19 Earnest Byner 1984

20 Lee Suggs 2003

21 Fred Taylor 1998

22 Sid Blanks 1964

23 Bryce Brown 2012

24 William Green 2002

25 Michael Bush 2008

26 Dominic Rhodes 2001

27 Rueben Mayes 1986

28 Joseph Addai 2006

29 Jamal Lewis 2000

30 Matt Snell 1964

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

So for all you just wanting to put him in your lineup with other good options.

Historically -

Bryce's game is #23 for most yards in a game in a rookie season

What did I do?

I took the number 15 through 30 most rushing yards in a game and looked at the very next game.

Average of 15-30

Attempts - 20

Yards - 96.6

TDs - 1

Average of 15-30 if you exclude (Mike Anderson '00 - 37/251/4 and Eric Dickerson '83 - 30/199/3)

Attempts - 15.7

Yards - 66.6

TDs - 0.53

*why did I exclude these? they are outliers in attempts/yards/tds so they are more of an exception instead of the average that can be expected when taking a sample of this size

Who?

15 Julius Jones 2004

16 Mike Anderson 2000

17 Eric Dickerson* 1983

18 Brad Hubbert 1967

19 Earnest Byner 1984

20 Lee Suggs 2003

21 Fred Taylor 1998

22 Sid Blanks 1964

23 Bryce Brown 2012

24 William Green 2002

25 Michael Bush 2008

26 Dominic Rhodes 2001

27 Rueben Mayes 1986

28 Joseph Addai 2006

29 Jamal Lewis 2000

30 Matt Snell 1964

Did you take out the two lowest also?

 

[packseasontix]

Also for your viewing:

Here is the list I had brought up

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&year_min=1960&year_max=2012&season_start=1&season_end=1&age_min=0&age_max=99&league_id=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_type=R&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&game_day_of_week=&game_location=&game_result=&is_active=&is_hof=&c1stat=rush_td&c1comp=gt&c1val=1&c2stat=all_td&c2comp=gt&c2val=2&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=rush_yds

 

[packseasontix]

So for all you just wanting to put him in your lineup with other good options.

Historically -

Bryce's game is #23 for most yards in a game in a rookie season

What did I do?

I took the number 15 through 30 most rushing yards in a game and looked at the very next game.

Average of 15-30

Attempts - 20

Yards - 96.6

TDs - 1

Average of 15-30 if you exclude (Mike Anderson '00 - 37/251/4 and Eric Dickerson '83 - 30/199/3)

Attempts - 15.7

Yards - 66.6

TDs - 0.53

*why did I exclude these? they are outliers in attempts/yards/tds so they are more of an exception instead of the average that can be expected when taking a sample of this size

Who?

15 Julius Jones 2004

16 Mike Anderson 2000

17 Eric Dickerson* 1983

18 Brad Hubbert 1967

19 Earnest Byner 1984

20 Lee Suggs 2003

21 Fred Taylor 1998

22 Sid Blanks 1964

23 Bryce Brown 2012

24 William Green 2002

25 Michael Bush 2008

26 Dominic Rhodes 2001

27 Rueben Mayes 1986

28 Joseph Addai 2006

29 Jamal Lewis 2000

30 Matt Snell 1964

Did you take out the two lowest also?

I will right now and updateThat was a good call as well as the Rueben Mayes was out of the ordinary as well but didnt notice it when putting the initial numbers together

First post has been updated.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

So for all you just wanting to put him in your lineup with other good options.

Historically -

Bryce's game is #23 for most yards in a game in a rookie season

What did I do?

I took the number 15 through 30 most rushing yards in a game and looked at the very next game.

Average of 15-30

Attempts - 20

Yards - 96.6

TDs - 1

Average of 15-30 if you exclude (Mike Anderson '00 - 37/251/4 and Eric Dickerson '83 - 30/199/3)

Attempts - 15.7

Yards - 66.6

TDs - 0.53

*why did I exclude these? they are outliers in attempts/yards/tds so they are more of an exception instead of the average that can be expected when taking a sample of this size

Who?

15 Julius Jones 2004

16 Mike Anderson 2000

17 Eric Dickerson* 1983

18 Brad Hubbert 1967

19 Earnest Byner 1984

20 Lee Suggs 2003

21 Fred Taylor 1998

22 Sid Blanks 1964

23 Bryce Brown 2012

24 William Green 2002

25 Michael Bush 2008

26 Dominic Rhodes 2001

27 Rueben Mayes 1986

28 Joseph Addai 2006

29 Jamal Lewis 2000

30 Matt Snell 1964

Did you take out the two lowest also?

not contending that your wrong or the data is useless, but why take out the two best games in the 15-30 and not look at the top 15 guys at all?

 

[terpdgo]

Not sure what I am supposed to do with this?

 

[packseasontix]

Did you take out the two lowest also?

not contending that your wrong or the data is useless, but why take out the two best games in the 15-30 and not look at the top 15 guys at all?

Very manual to put together and so took player around right where Bryce finished. If someone else wants to pick up the top 15 I can add them in as well to the main numbers if you give me the averages.

 

[packseasontix]

Not sure what I am supposed to do with this?

Just meant to give you a measuring stick to put next to what he did against Carolina this last week.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Not sure what I am supposed to do with this?

Just meant to give you a measuring stick to put next to what he did against Carolina this last week.

i`ll take my chances

 

[SameSongNDance]

I just want to make this clear. Are you saying my flex should put up around 90 total yards and has a 60% chance of scoring a TD this week?

 

[packseasontix]

I just want to make this clear. Are you saying my flex should put up around 90 total yards and has a 60% chance of scoring a TD this week?

Looks to be so, he seems to be a start for sure at most people's flex.

 

[One]

Nice, I'll start'm.

 

[Wrigley]

Hell I'll start Bryce, and put Ray Rice as my Flex......just to motivate him.

 

[Max Power]

*UPDATED

So for all you just wanting to put him in your lineup with other good options.

Historically -

Bryce's game is #23 for most yards in a game in a rookie season

What did I do?

I took the number 15 through 30 most rushing yards in a game and looked at the very next game.

Average of 15-30

Attempts - 20

Yards - 96.6

TDs - 1

Average of 15-30 if you exclude (Mike Anderson '00 - 37/251/4 and Eric Dickerson '83 - 30/199/3)

Also excluded two lowest totals (Fred Taylor '98 - 20/42/1 and Rueben Mayes '86 - 4/-2/0)

Attempts - 19.3

Yards - 87.2

TDs - 0.63

*why did I exclude these? they are outliers in attempts/yards/tds so they are more of an exception instead of the average that can be expected when taking a sample of this size

Who?

15 Julius Jones 2004

16 Mike Anderson 2000

17 Eric Dickerson* 1983

18 Brad Hubbert 1967

19 Earnest Byner 1984

20 Lee Suggs 2003

21 Fred Taylor 1998

22 Sid Blanks 1964

23 Bryce Brown 2012

24 William Green 2002

25 Michael Bush 2008

26 Dominic Rhodes 2001

27 Rueben Mayes 1986

28 Joseph Addai 2006

29 Jamal Lewis 2000

30 Matt Snell 1964

This is a good post. And the averages are very interesting. I'm expecting to see Brown hit the 70-80 yard mark. The Kid has talent, but the Dallas D is a tougher matchup.

 

[DoubleG]

I just want to make this clear. Are you saying my flex should put up around 90 total yards and has a 60% chance of scoring a TD this week?

- That's just rushing yards...and it would be 97 + 1 TD almost guaranteed if you decide not to agree with the "I'll throw out the guys that were good so they don't bump it up too high" argument.

 

[Wrigley]

*UPDATED

So for all you just wanting to put him in your lineup with other good options.

Historically -

Bryce's game is #23 for most yards in a game in a rookie season

What did I do?

I took the number 15 through 30 most rushing yards in a game and looked at the very next game.

Average of 15-30

Attempts - 20

Yards - 96.6

TDs - 1

Average of 15-30 if you exclude (Mike Anderson '00 - 37/251/4 and Eric Dickerson '83 - 30/199/3)

Also excluded two lowest totals (Fred Taylor '98 - 20/42/1 and Rueben Mayes '86 - 4/-2/0)

Attempts - 19.3

Yards - 87.2

TDs - 0.63

*why did I exclude these? they are outliers in attempts/yards/tds so they are more of an exception instead of the average that can be expected when taking a sample of this size

Who?

15 Julius Jones 2004

16 Mike Anderson 2000

17 Eric Dickerson* 1983

18 Brad Hubbert 1967

19 Earnest Byner 1984

20 Lee Suggs 2003

21 Fred Taylor 1998

22 Sid Blanks 1964

23 Bryce Brown 2012

24 William Green 2002

25 Michael Bush 2008

26 Dominic Rhodes 2001

27 Rueben Mayes 1986

28 Joseph Addai 2006

29 Jamal Lewis 2000

30 Matt Snell 1964

This is a good post. And the averages are very interesting. I'm expecting to see Brown hit the 70-80 yard mark. The Kid has talent, but the Dallas D is a tougher matchup.

Isn't Dallas missing a couple linebackers?

 

[FFtexas]

*UPDATED

So for all you just wanting to put him in your lineup with other good options.

Historically -

Bryce's game is #23 for most yards in a game in a rookie season

What did I do?

I took the number 15 through 30 most rushing yards in a game and looked at the very next game.

Average of 15-30

Attempts - 20

Yards - 96.6

TDs - 1

Average of 15-30 if you exclude (Mike Anderson '00 - 37/251/4 and Eric Dickerson '83 - 30/199/3)

Also excluded two lowest totals (Fred Taylor '98 - 20/42/1 and Rueben Mayes '86 - 4/-2/0)

Attempts - 19.3

Yards - 87.2

TDs - 0.63

*why did I exclude these? they are outliers in attempts/yards/tds so they are more of an exception instead of the average that can be expected when taking a sample of this size

Who?

15 Julius Jones 2004

16 Mike Anderson 2000

17 Eric Dickerson* 1983

18 Brad Hubbert 1967

19 Earnest Byner 1984

20 Lee Suggs 2003

21 Fred Taylor 1998

22 Sid Blanks 1964

23 Bryce Brown 2012

24 William Green 2002

25 Michael Bush 2008

26 Dominic Rhodes 2001

27 Rueben Mayes 1986

28 Joseph Addai 2006

29 Jamal Lewis 2000

30 Matt Snell 1964

This is a good post. And the averages are very interesting. I'm expecting to see Brown hit the 70-80 yard mark. The Kid has talent, but the Dallas D is a tougher matchup.

Isn't Dallas missing a couple linebackers?

Yes, their two starting inside linebackers are done for the season. (Sean Lee and Bruce Carter)

 

[SameSongNDance]

I won't totally disregard this information. All information is valuable IMO and I appreciate the work. Here though, these totals may be arbitrary in nature with no real correlation. I mean, I think I'd be more interested to see how far these numbers deviate from the mean. Judging by the outliers, it may be rather large. I guess what I'm trying to say is the variance may be large enough that we cannot predict with any real accuracy as to whether or not he'll have a good or bad day.

 

[voiceofunreason]

Honestly, bit of a waste of time. You can't average together numbers from different players, eras, circumstances. It's like the stats guys who multiplied Meachem's pts/route as if it wouldn't change on a new team and circumstance.

Take any huge game, rookie or not and it's unlikely any player puts up back to back huge weeks. However, is it more likely a guy with 12 yards on 15 carries will have a big week? All you proved is football can be pretty random. Pretty much knew that already if you try and predict who to sit/start every week.

 

[DiStefano]

Did you work out the stats for rookies who averaged 2 fumbles in their first start?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I just want to make this clear. Are you saying my flex should put up around 90 total yards and has a 60% chance of scoring a TD this week?

psshh...no, dude.he's saying to expect about a 10% drop off in production in his second game.so, be warned.edit: on second thought, he'd actually be excluded from this list, so don't worry about it.

 

[HurryUpSundays]

I would love for my opponent to remove Bryce from his line up.

Unfortunately, he should easily reach 100 total yards and a TD this weekend.

 

[TwinTurbo]

The sample size is too small and there is no correlation. All you really have to go on is that the Panthers rush D is one of the league's worst while the Dallas rush D is above average. It is almost a given that Brown will not be as productive against Dallas on the road.

 

[gradin123]

Well you have to know the Cowboys are going to sell out to stop the run after last week and they also are going to try and strip him of the football every chance they get. He never made an adjustment last week with the way he carried the football despite two costly fumbles.

THe Cowboys are not going to be afraid of Nick Foles beating them especially with Jackson out. Brown is certain to see 8 men in the box almost the whole game. With receiving yards he should get close to 90 yards combined though as long as he doesn't get benched for more fumbles.

 

[Badgers Fan]

If Bryce Brown gets 90 yards and a 60% chance at a touchdown I'll take it.

 

[Islanders rule]

I'm Playing Bradshaw, S-Jax & Bryce. Benching: Tate, Vareen, Ballard & Hillman.

Dallas will key on him, but I say he gets 150 total yards 3-4 receptions and a TD (or 2).

OR - Dallas shuts out the Eagles? Nick Foles ? Yikes!

Bryce is a tough runner. I'm sure he will have have double digit fantasy points in every league.

Good luck to all!

 

[ROCKET]

Can you work me up the most likely powerball numbers for the next half billion dollar jackpot?

 

[cheese]

I appreciate your work here, but I don't see a very strong conclusion.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Well you have to know the Cowboys are going to sell out to stop the run after last week and they also are going to try and strip him of the football every chance they get. He never made an adjustment last week with the way he carried the football despite two costly fumbles.THe Cowboys are not going to be afraid of Nick Foles beating them especially with Jackson out. Brown is certain to see 8 men in the box almost the whole game. With receiving yards he should get close to 90 yards combined though as long as he doesn't get benched for more fumbles.

didn't the cowboys already play nick foles a couple weeks ago?the game where carter had 10 solos.

 

[moleculo]

I appreciate your work here, but I don't see a very strong conclusion.

the conclusion is that based on past history, rookie RB's who have a big game are likely have a startable game the following week. I was a bit scared to play Brown this week - fearful that last week was an anomaly and we would not do crap this week - no reason other than a feeling that Brown was a beneficiary of a few big plays, but data like this alleviates that fear.

 

[Sweet Love]

I appreciate your work here, but I don't see a very strong conclusion.

the conclusion is that based on past history, rookie RB's who have a big game are likely have a startable game the following week. I was a bit scared to play Brown this week - fearful that last week was an anomaly and we would not do crap this week - no reason other than a feeling that Brown was a beneficiary of a few big plays, but data like this alleviates that fear.

I see the point, but I think to take anything away concrete, you would need to delve further into the ranking of the defense in the first game versus the second. With such a small sample size, it could go either way; they could have put these original numbers up against an average group, and then the next week did it against a worse group (or vice versa). But if it is the former, and Brown himself is playing against a better defense, it tells me little. NOW, since it is pretty clear that Brown is the only guy in Philly now, I would be interested in this years stats of guys who get 15+ carries against Dallas and how they perform.

 

[Bayhawks]

Well you have to know the Cowboys are going to sell out to stop the run after last week and they also are going to try and strip him of the football every chance they get. He never made an adjustment last week with the way he carried the football despite two costly fumbles.

THe Cowboys are not going to be afraid of Nick Foles beating them especially with Jackson out. Brown is certain to see 8 men in the box almost the whole game. With receiving yards he should get close to 90 yards combined though as long as he doesn't get benched for more fumbles.

Do you think the Panthers were focusing on stopping Foles, and only playing 6 men in the box? Do you think the Panthers were afraid of Nick Foles beating them?

 

[Bayhawks]

NOW, since it is pretty clear that Brown is the only guy in Philly now, I would be interested in this years stats of guys who get 15+ carries against Dallas and how they perform.

Here ya go:Bradshaw-17/78/1, 2/15/0Lynch-26/122/1, 0/0/0Martin-19/53/0, 2/21/0Rice-16/63/2, 1/43/0Bradshaw-22/78/0, 0/0/0***A Brown-3/21/1, 0/0/0Turner-20/102/1, 0/0/0McCoy-16/82/0, 4/20/0Richardson-28/95/0, 6/49/0Morris-24/113/1, 0/0/0Assuming a standard scoring system (non-PPR), that's an average of 14.4 FF points when RBs have gotten 15+carries vs Dallas this year.**If you include A Brown in the 2nd NYG game (when he was being used as a GL RB), the average is 15.3 FF points given up.

 

[Cookiemonster]

I appreciate your work here, but I don't see a very strong conclusion.

the conclusion is that based on past history, rookie RB's who have a big game are likely have a startable game the following week. I was a bit scared to play Brown this week - fearful that last week was an anomaly and we would not do crap this week - no reason other than a feeling that Brown was a beneficiary of a few big plays, but data like this alleviates that fear.

I see the point, but I think to take anything away concrete, you would need to delve further into the ranking of the defense in the first game versus the second. With such a small sample size, it could go either way; they could have put these original numbers up against an average group, and then the next week did it against a worse group (or vice versa). But if it is the former, and Brown himself is playing against a better defense, it tells me little. NOW, since it is pretty clear that Brown is the only guy in Philly now, I would be interested in this years stats of guys who get 15+ carries against Dallas and how they perform.

1	@NYG	19	82	1	16.82	@Sea	37	154	1	31.83	TB	24	74	0	13.64	Chi	25	93	0	11.85	BYE	-	-	-	-6	@Bal	20	84	2	297	@Car	15	48	1	14.98	NYG	27	100	1	149	@Atl	24	107	1	35.110	@Phi	20	84	1	21.711	Cle	33	119	0	22.812	Wsh	24	113	1	23.3

Not bad at all. Point total is in PPR. Add in the broken LBs, and I'm putting him back in at flex over Knowshon. These are team totals not individual RBs, but I don't know that it changes anything.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I appreciate your work here, but I don't see a very strong conclusion.

the conclusion is that based on past history, rookie RB's who have a big game are likely have a startable game the following week. I was a bit scared to play Brown this week - fearful that last week was an anomaly and we would not do crap this week - no reason other than a feeling that Brown was a beneficiary of a few big plays, but data like this alleviates that fear.

I see the point, but I think to take anything away concrete, you would need to delve further into the ranking of the defense in the first game versus the second. With such a small sample size, it could go either way; they could have put these original numbers up against an average group, and then the next week did it against a worse group (or vice versa). But if it is the former, and Brown himself is playing against a better defense, it tells me little. NOW, since it is pretty clear that Brown is the only guy in Philly now, I would be interested in this years stats of guys who get 15+ carries against Dallas and how they perform.

that's a valid point, but I don't think you carried it all the way through.game 1 is not an arbitrary start point -- like week 1, or week 6, it's a specific circumstance, which is a rb blowing up for a huge week that's well above his average.poor defenses are much more likely conducive to these efforts, which is how we id them as 'poor' in the first place.so, it's highly likely that the blow up week would be against a below average d, rather than an excellent d -- the following week would be against a random d.as for the rb that carried 15x vs dallas, I believe shady carried 16x for around 85 yds a couple weeks ago when bruce carter was still playing.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

*UPDATED

So for all you just wanting to put him in your lineup with other good options.

Historically -

Bryce's game is #23 for most yards in a game in a rookie season

What did I do?

I took the number 15 through 30 most rushing yards in a game and looked at the very next game.

Average of 15-30

Attempts - 20

Yards - 96.6

TDs - 1

Average of 15-30 if you exclude (Mike Anderson '00 - 37/251/4 and Eric Dickerson '83 - 30/199/3)

Also excluded two lowest totals (Fred Taylor '98 - 20/42/1 and Rueben Mayes '86 - 4/-2/0)

Attempts - 19.3

Yards - 87.2

TDs - 0.63

*why did I exclude these? they are outliers in attempts/yards/tds so they are more of an exception instead of the average that can be expected when taking a sample of this size

Who?

15 Julius Jones 2004

16 Mike Anderson 2000

17 Eric Dickerson* 1983

18 Brad Hubbert 1967

19 Earnest Byner 1984

20 Lee Suggs 2003

21 Fred Taylor 1998

22 Sid Blanks 1964

23 Bryce Brown 2012

24 William Green 2002

25 Michael Bush 2008

26 Dominic Rhodes 2001

27 Rueben Mayes 1986

28 Joseph Addai 2006

29 Jamal Lewis 2000

30 Matt Snell 1964

I'm confused.If the above list is supposed to represent the top individual rookie rushing games then how come this top individual rookie rushing list doesn't show Demarco Murray's 253 yard rushing game from last year when he was a rookie?

Seems an obvious miss and makes me wonder about the list's accuracy and the conclusions drawn from the above.

 

[Coach3K]

I'm guessing it's because that game ranked somewhere between the 1st and 14th best performance by a rookie, and the OP is giving data from 15-30, for reasons he posted.

That doesn't mean those are valid, statistically accurate reasons, but it explains why you're not seeing Murray.

I'm not sure - I didn't check his source, as I don't really care much -I liked what I saw from Bryce on Monday and I'm hoping he can keep the fire going against the Cowboys.

 

[Coach3K]

Out of curiousity, I did check his source document, and he sorted the data to show only games where at least 2 TD's were scored (1 of which had to be a rush), which I assume was his attempt to replicate Brown's performance.

Murray only scored 1 TD that game on the 91 yard play.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

I'm guessing it's because that game ranked somewhere between the 1st and 14th best performance by a rookie, and the OP is giving data from 15-30, for reasons he posted.That doesn't mean those are valid, statistically accurate reasons, but it explains why you're not seeing Murray.I'm not sure - I didn't check his source, as I don't really care much -I liked what I saw from Bryce on Monday and I'm hoping he can keep the fire going against the Cowboys.

It seems arbitrary and the thing about Bryce's game is that is was his very first NFL start. Not just h is first start but consider that he never had more than 5 rushing attempts in any game up until he got 19 carries against the Panthers.So if he ran for the 23 rd highest signle game for all NFL rookie RBs in the entire history of the NFL for their entire rookie seasons in ONLY his first game then the entire list is tough to swallow because every other rookie listed has their entire rookie season being compared to only the first NFL rookie start for Bryce Brown.Its not a fair comparison.Also many of the rookies on the list were higher draft selections and had much more solid collegiate rushing histories than Bryce did.He's a complete unknown so making comparisions and trying to draw conclusions that are meaningful are harder for Bryce. He a very unusual guy and his upside is pretty high considering the low-loooooooooow mileage he has on his wheels since he wasn't run into the ground in college. Very raw, top notch athletic skills, ridiculous first NFL start production. Makes him a true wildcard and harer to pigeon hole or compare him to other rookies.That is how I view him.

 

[Run It Up]

Im starting him with confidence that he will have a better game then Reggie Bush, who im starting him over.

 

[Squintz82]

Well you have to know the Cowboys are going to sell out to stop the run after last week and they also are going to try and strip him of the football every chance they get. He never made an adjustment last week with the way he carried the football despite two costly fumbles.

THe Cowboys are not going to be afraid of Nick Foles beating them especially with Jackson out. Brown is certain to see 8 men in the box almost the whole game. With receiving yards he should get close to 90 yards combined though as long as he doesn't get benched for more fumbles.

Do you think the Panthers were focusing on stopping Foles, and only playing 6 men in the box? Do you think the Panthers were afraid of Nick Foles beating them?

Thank you. I'm glad someone else made this point.

 

[Chazzhawk]

If Bryce Brown gets 90 yards and a 60% chance at a touchdown I'll take it.

My thinking exactly. Too bad I don't own him =(

 

[Sinrman]

Well, a few things about Brown:

1) He was playing against an awful Carolina defense

2) Despite being decimated from injuries, the Cowboy defense is far better than the Panther's

3) Brown did have 2 fumbles, despite his nice performance - keep turning it over like that, and it won't matter how good you're doing, you will be benched or someone else will start taking touches away

4) The way Foles is "playing" (if you want to call it that), Brown is all the Eagles have left on offense - the Cowboys will be looking to stop him cold

5) This is a division game, and the Cowboys need a win BADLY (extra motivation)

6) This is a heated rivalry (extra extra motivation for the Cowboys)

7) The game is @ Dallas, so the crowd will be against the Eagles

 

[gadkins]

He reminded me of Bo Jackson the other night.

 

[DiStefano]

He reminded me of Bo Jackson the other night.

So he's going to injure his hip?

 

[tigerz]

That's it, I'm starting Bryce over Lynch. Thanks.

 

[Chazzhawk]

That's it, I'm starting Bryce over Lynch. Thanks.

Please let this be sarcasm that I am missing.

 

[tigerz]

That's it, I'm starting Bryce over Lynch. Thanks.

Please let this be sarcasm that I am missing.

Actually, I was only half-joking. I have yet to find one source that ranks Lynch above Bryce this week.

 

[Islanders rule]

He reminded me of Bo Jackson the other night.

So he's going to injure his hip?

No, He either ran through the end zone into the tunnel, or ran over Brian Bosworth ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs-1hPkLKeQ I am playing B.B. over Tate & Vereen as an rb 3 and feel great about it. He will produce double digit points in any scoring format. (even if there are 8 in the box all day).

 

[DoubleG]

Well, a few things about Brown:

1) He was playing against an awful Carolina defense

2) Despite being decimated from injuries, the Cowboy defense is far better than the Panther's

3) Brown did have 2 fumbles, despite his nice performance - keep turning it over like that, and it won't matter how good you're doing, you will be benched or someone else will start taking touches away - only an issue if he is benched during the game

4) The way Foles is "playing" (if you want to call it that), Brown is all the Eagles have left on offense - the Cowboys will be looking to stop him cold this is the same as last week

5) This is a division game, and the Cowboys need a win BADLY (extra motivation) Umm - okay. The Vikings needed a win against the Bears last week...the "extra motivation" argument only goes so far - if you even actually believe that teams try "less hard" at other times.

6) This is a heated rivalry (extra extra motivation for the Cowboys) this works both ways.

7) The game is @ Dallas, so the crowd will be against the Eagles So Brown will run slower or not hit the hole as hard??

I'll give you point #1 - but no one is predicting 178 and 2 TDs. Brown will undoubtedly put up lesser stats. I think most people in this thread are suggesting around 100 total yards and a score.