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Player Spotlight: Brandon Jacobs (1 Viewer)

Exactly. With Droughns they have a #1 and Jacobs gives them depth at #2.The Giants know Coughlin will be gone next season and don't want to make any major moves until their new HC is in place. Droughns will be the stop gap this year and then the new HC can bring in an RB suited to whatever offense he'll be running, depending on who the new coach is....these tea leaves are pretty damn easy to read for the general public, but I have the advantage of getting my information from Exit 16W, so I can confirm it here for everyone's benefit.
Is this the same source that told you the Giants were going to spend a high round pick on a RB? Or did you just misread the "tea leaves" on that one?
That person got fired, the new guy is higher up.
:bag: Can you provide us a link to other great "inside" information you've given the board about the NYG?Really HK, I know your trying to do us some kind of service and warn us about Jacobs, but really he's going at about RB22-RB25 in mocks Im doing right now. To me he warrants that risk, especially in TD heavy leagues. I think he'll be given every opportunity to win the job/fail. And Droughns is a cheap enough hand-cuff if injury or failure is an option.
 
I think those numbers are achievable....for his entire career.
That's funny because Droughns is the one who only has 13 TDs in 7 years. Jacobs has 16 in 2.
Why is it funny? The TD's are what makes its achievable. If Jacobs can manage to hang around the NFL for the next 4-5 years, he'll have a good chance of reaching 2000 total yards for his career. He's already amassed 671 total yards in two seasons, so if he can keep up the torrid pace he has set for himself, he'll be closing in on the 2K mark in about four years.The trick for him will be staying healthy. He couldn't even carry 100 times last year without missing time, so as long as his carries are limited to about 75 or 80 over the course of a season, he may be able to handle it....but that's a big question mark right now.
 
Really HK, I know your trying to do us some kind of service and warn us about Jacobs, but really he's going at about RB22-RB25 in mocks Im doing right now. To me he warrants that risk, especially in TD heavy leagues. I think he'll be given every opportunity to win the job/fail. And Droughns is a cheap enough hand-cuff if injury or failure is an option.
Sniff - You were one of my all-pros last year, and I hold you in the highest regard....but I urge your to reconsider a low to mid 20's pick on Jacobs.
 
I stand by my earlier projections: 300 carries, 1400 yards rushing, 13 TDs; 40 receptions, 350 yards receiving, 2 TDs (and still feel they are on the conservative side).
Can i please see your non-conservative estimates? If 1,750 yards/15 TD's is conservative then i don't know the definition of that word.
He's entirely capable of putting up 2,000 total yards and 15+ TDs.
Guys, this has devolved into a he said/she said and this is neither the place nor time for that kind of dialogue. You've each made your points; now let the chips fall where they may unless you have new factual information or statistical analysis to add to your opinions; which are on record loud and clear.
 
Really HK, I know your trying to do us some kind of service and warn us about Jacobs, but really he's going at about RB22-RB25 in mocks Im doing right now. To me he warrants that risk, especially in TD heavy leagues. I think he'll be given every opportunity to win the job/fail. And Droughns is a cheap enough hand-cuff if injury or failure is an option.
Sniff - You were one of my all-pros last year, and I hold you in the highest regard....but I urge your to reconsider a low to mid 20's pick on Jacobs.
TY, and noted.
 
Last season, BJ & Tiki's numbers were the following

BJ

96 carries

423 yards (4.4 ypc)

9 TDs

Tiki

327 carries

1662 yards (5.1 ypc)

5 TDs

It's just my opinion, but I see Droughns doing the majority of the work between the twentys and Jacobs working the goal-line, short yardage situations and rotating in for another series or two each half (think Jones/Barber). I just don't think Jacobs has the receiving skills and is far too one-dimensional to be an every down back. Teams know what is coming when he lines up in the backfield. He was effective at 6 carries a game; I think his averages progressively get worse with the more carries he gets.

My split would give Jacobs 40% of the total NYG RB work with the following #s. Nthing wrong with him as a low tier #2 RB, but I think he will be very frusturating and difficult to depend on game to game.

175 carries

750 yards rushing

10 TDs rushing

10 catches

75 yards receiving

0 TD receiving

 
Jacobs wasnt really on my radar this up coming season until I read this blurb from CBS.....

"The Bergen County Record reports that Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride has two concerns about Giants RB Brandon Jacobs moving into a starting role: Can he change his style of running, and Can he stay upright for 16 games? "They've encouraged him to be (a power runner)," Gilbride said. "But you're not the change-of-pace guy anymore, hopefully you are the guy. You hope that he would learn that himself as part of the natural process. That's the thing that I'm worried about: Does he have the stamina to stay in there for a whole game and carry the ball 20-to-25 times over 16-17 weeks?"

(Updated 05/11/2007).

This leads me to believe Jacobs is definately the man in NYG over Droughns. As long as he stays healthy, of course.

And then also this snippet from CBS as well....

"Gilbride also sees the Giants calling the same plays they did last year with Tiki Barber in the backfield, including stretch plays that attack the edges of a defense. Jacobs is confident that he can hold up for a full season and change his style at the same time, and our first-hand account of seeing him up close leads us to agree with him. Expect Jacobs to see anywhere from 15-to-20 touches per game and teammate Reuben Droughns to get 10-to-15 touches per game. Jacobs will also do the goal-line duty, which puts him light years ahead of Droughns in Fantasy play."

So, if the NYG offense wont change much, Jacobs should get alot of carries. Jacobs could also be in store for ALOT of passes caught (great for PPR leagues).

And it appears he will be the unquestioned goal line back.

Jacobs is listed quite low on most cheatsheets.

He represents tremendous value. I will take him as an RB2, if I apply the RB-WR-WR strategy in my draft.

 
Jacobs wasnt really on my radar this up coming season until I read this blurb from CBS....."The Bergen County Record reports that Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride has two concerns about Giants RB Brandon Jacobs moving into a starting role: Can he change his style of running, and Can he stay upright for 16 games? "They've encouraged him to be (a power runner)," Gilbride said. "But you're not the change-of-pace guy anymore, hopefully you are the guy. You hope that he would learn that himself as part of the natural process. That's the thing that I'm worried about: Does he have the stamina to stay in there for a whole game and carry the ball 20-to-25 times over 16-17 weeks?"(Updated 05/11/2007).This leads me to believe Jacobs is definately the man in NYG over Droughns. As long as he stays healthy, of course.And then also this snippet from CBS as well...."Gilbride also sees the Giants calling the same plays they did last year with Tiki Barber in the backfield, including stretch plays that attack the edges of a defense. Jacobs is confident that he can hold up for a full season and change his style at the same time, and our first-hand account of seeing him up close leads us to agree with him. Expect Jacobs to see anywhere from 15-to-20 touches per game and teammate Reuben Droughns to get 10-to-15 touches per game. Jacobs will also do the goal-line duty, which puts him light years ahead of Droughns in Fantasy play."So, if the NYG offense wont change much, Jacobs should get alot of carries. Jacobs could also be in store for ALOT of passes caught (great for PPR leagues). And it appears he will be the unquestioned goal line back.Jacobs is listed quite low on most cheatsheets. He represents tremendous value. I will take him as an RB2, if I apply the RB-WR-WR strategy in my draft.
yep :no:
 
Virtually all his carries were short yardage situations last year and yet he averaged 4.4 per carry!

For some reason, every projection on this site has his ypc going down this year. I don't see it.

This kid will have a great year.

 
I remember the year I drafted Tiki in late round every draft while you all were on Daynes bandwagon and won every league I was in that year!

Too bad I can't get Jacob's at that value this year.

Next year your all have Jacob's a first round pick. Still a great value this year.

Just what my guts tell me. Jacobs is gonna have a HUGE year!

And is undervalued at this point of time. Drougns is nothing but an injury handcuff and a one series a half change of pace back! That's been announced by the way! It shouldn't be a secreat.

Sure it could change but Jacobs has earned this opportunity and I bet he makes most of it!

 
Reasons Jacobs will be a bust for anyone drafting him in FF this season, and these apply for any scoring format:

1) He has never been a feature RB - There is a reason for this, do not overlook the obvious here!. Being third string at Auburn and splitting time at SIU were root cause issues, not situational. There will be pages of BS from his supporters explaining why he never had a chance or citing examples of other guys who weren't successful in college that bloomed in the NFL. Don't listen to that, those guys weren't 6'4" 265 lb sitting targets. Jacobs is a modern day battleship....impressive to look at, yet very limited in application.

2) Follow the money - Droughns gets paid more than he does. If the Giants really thought Jacobs were the man, they would not have traded for a feature RB like Droughns (one of only 10 RB's in the NFL to rush for 1200 yards twice since 2004). The Giants could have added some traditional back-up through FA and paid less for him, but chose to go with a proven three down RB. Not to mention they added Bradshaw through the draft, too.

3) No Tiki will actually hurt him - Barber was the guy who got Jacobs scoring chances. Without him, Jacobs will have fewer TD's this year than last season even though he'll get more touches. The entire Giants offense will suffer greatly without Barber.

Conclusion: Avoid Jacobs like the plague bacause that's essentially what he is....a disease that will kill your entire team.

Jacobs 140 carries for 590 and 10 recepts for 65 with 5 total TD's.
Total Rubbish. Avoid like the plague? A disease? Kill your entire team? Dude, please step away from the bong.

His TD numbers have increased from 7 in his first year to 9 last year and they will give him the ball in every goaline situation this season. Droughns is an insurance policy, nothing more. If he is so great why is he an NFL Journeyman? Waived by Detroit, cut from the Miami PRACTICE Squad, Denver traded him for Ekuban and Myers, and Cleveland traded him for Tim 'Hands of Stone' Carter. Wake up.

And please, everyone stop with the Bradshaw talk...the guy hasn't even made the team.

Jacobs is good for 1050 and 12td...easily.

Two thumbs up for the Biggest Running Back In Captivity.

:cool:

 
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With Droughns they have a #1 and Jacobs gives them depth at #2.
Giants agreed to terms with RB Ahmad Bradshaw.Terms were not yet disclosed. Bradshaw, out of Marshall, has made a lot of noise in summer practices for a seventh-round pick and could wind up being Brandon Jacobs' long-term third-down back. First he'll have to prove he can continue his solid play with pads on.

 
:shrug:More word from Exit 16W, and it continues to be bad. I've been saying it for months, those on the inside know this situation, and it ain't pretty.
In his interview today with Mike Francesa on WFAN Coughlin said he doesn't foresee it as a RBBC situation. Intimated that Jacobs is the guy. Specifically mentioned that he has "exceptional hands" and that he has gotten much better at picking up the blitz.
 
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With Droughns they have a #1 and Jacobs gives them depth at #2.
Giants agreed to terms with RB Ahmad Bradshaw.Terms were not yet disclosed. Bradshaw, out of Marshall, has made a lot of noise in summer practices for a seventh-round pick and could wind up being Brandon Jacobs' long-term third-down back. First he'll have to prove he can continue his solid play with pads on.
Perhaps you didn't hear the interview with the Giants beat writer that suggested Bradshaw wouldn't even suit up for games if he can't come through on special teams.
 
With Droughns they have a #1 and Jacobs gives them depth at #2.
Giants agreed to terms with RB Ahmad Bradshaw.Terms were not yet disclosed. Bradshaw, out of Marshall, has made a lot of noise in summer practices for a seventh-round pick and could wind up being Brandon Jacobs' long-term third-down back. First he'll have to prove he can continue his solid play with pads on.
Perhaps you didn't hear the interview with the Giants beat writer that suggested Bradshaw wouldn't even suit up for games if he can't come through on special teams.
Only a few people know whats going to go on... and one of them isn't a beat writer... not like roto can forsee the future either.Besides; in that interview w/ the coach on the radio today... even pointed out how impressive Bradshaw was in rookie camps.

 
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With Droughns they have a #1 and Jacobs gives them depth at #2.
Giants agreed to terms with RB Ahmad Bradshaw.Terms were not yet disclosed. Bradshaw, out of Marshall, has made a lot of noise in summer practices for a seventh-round pick and could wind up being Brandon Jacobs' long-term third-down back. First he'll have to prove he can continue his solid play with pads on.
Perhaps you didn't hear the interview with the Giants beat writer that suggested Bradshaw wouldn't even suit up for games if he can't come through on special teams.
Only a few people know whats going to go on... and one of them isn't a beat writer... not like roto can forsee the future either.Besides; in that interview w/ the coach on the radio today... even pointed out how impressive Bradshaw was in rookie camps.
I was referring to the interview on The Audible.....but I guess nobody knows but the players and coaches
 
I heard he's working out with Tiki's trainner - I remember the year Tiki put in a tough off-season and everyone insisted Ron Dayne was the RB to have. Tiki's FF value dropped through the floor - He ended up putting up top 5 numbers

I'm not missing the boat twice - this is a tremendous oppourtunity for Jacobs

 

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