Player Spotlight: Clinton Portis (1 Viewer)

[Banger]

Tendonitis isn't that big of a deal is it? Isn't it primarily a pain control issue? I would imagine they'll just continue to rest him as much as they can in the pre-season.

agreed. This doesn't concern me at all at this point. Send it around to your leaguemates to make him even more of a draft day value.....

 

[rascal]

Redskins RB Clinton Portis is not expected to return to practice until next week at the earliest.

 

[redman]

Redskins RB Clinton Portis is not expected to return to practice until next week at the earliest.

As with Samuels, he's a veteran with an injury that doesn't appear to affect his in-season status, and he certainly doesn't need the preseason reps. I'm not overly concerned, but I certainly don't like that a tendonitis condition that everyone had thought had resolved has reappeared.

 

[Trey]

I have officially upgraded my worry level on Portis from Blue (Guarded) to Yellow (Elevated)...

Although I'm very confused as to how tendinitis is causing him such a problem. I know some great cross country runners that did 26 mile marathons with patella tendinitis and while it hurt like hell, they were able to run through it.

 

[redman]

I have officially upgraded my worry level on Portis from Blue (Guarded) to Yellow (Elevated)...Although I'm very confused as to how tendinitis is causing him such a problem. I know some great cross country runners that did 26 mile marathons with patella tendinitis and while it hurt like hell, they were able to run through it.

I think this is mostly precautionary. If it was the regular season he'd be practicing and playing IMHO. The team knows he's a smaller RB who throws his body around and has a tendency to get banged up doing so (witness last year's preseason shoulder injury) so it's probably good for him anyway to rest up as much as possible during the preseason.

 

[dgreen]

I have officially upgraded my worry level on Portis from Blue (Guarded) to Yellow (Elevated)...Although I'm very confused as to how tendinitis is causing him such a problem. I know some great cross country runners that did 26 mile marathons with patella tendinitis and while it hurt like hell, they were able to run through it.

I think this is mostly precautionary. If it was the regular season he'd be practicing and playing IMHO. The team knows he's a smaller RB who throws his body around and has a tendency to get banged up doing so (witness last year's preseason shoulder injury) so it's probably good for him anyway to rest up as much as possible during the preseason.

Or...Remember Stan Humphries' blood disorder that sent him to IR for a year or Mark Rypien going down in a heap at the end of the final preseason game and spending a season on IR? Gibbs used to play with injuries more than any other coach.Maybe he's fine. Maybe there's a little pain, but nothing that really bothers him. Gibbs has said this training camp and preseason will be different than last year. They aren't going to take it easy. They have more two-a-days. Everyone's going to play significant time in the preseason and they won't hide the offense. Unless, of course, a guy's hurt. You can't have a hurt player doing this stuff.Maybe he'll miraculously be over his tendinitis by September.Just a thought.

 

[redman]

I have officially upgraded my worry level on Portis from Blue (Guarded) to Yellow (Elevated)...Although I'm very confused as to how tendinitis is causing him such a problem. I know some great cross country runners that did 26 mile marathons with patella tendinitis and while it hurt like hell, they were able to run through it.

I think this is mostly precautionary. If it was the regular season he'd be practicing and playing IMHO. The team knows he's a smaller RB who throws his body around and has a tendency to get banged up doing so (witness last year's preseason shoulder injury) so it's probably good for him anyway to rest up as much as possible during the preseason.

Or...Remember Stan Humphries' blood disorder that sent him to IR for a year or Mark Rypien going down in a heap at the end of the final preseason game and spending a season on IR? Gibbs used to play with injuries more than any other coach.Maybe he's fine. Maybe there's a little pain, but nothing that really bothers him. Gibbs has said this training camp and preseason will be different than last year. They aren't going to take it easy. They have more two-a-days. Everyone's going to play significant time in the preseason and they won't hide the offense. Unless, of course, a guy's hurt. You can't have a hurt player doing this stuff.Maybe he'll miraculously be over his tendinitis by September.Just a thought.

I get your point, but recall that at the time that IR stuff occurred with Humphries and Rypien, they were 4th string backup QB prospects with no chance of playing who'd have been cut but for the IR shenanigans. Portis' situation is in no way comparable to that. Now, as far as Gibbs catering to Portis' desire to skip as much of the preseason as possible, after three years with him Gibbs may well have enough faith in him to let him do that under the cover of "recurring tendonitis". It's a valid point.

 

[Rounders]

Is this just a ploy to keep Portis out of the preseason.....are we witnessing some skeletor moves here?

 

[-jb-]

Is this just a ploy to keep Portis out of the preseason.....are we witnessing some skeletor moves here?

is it necessary to make it a "move?" i mean, LT just says, "I'm not gonna," and he doesn't. not sure that there's a need to shroud it in some type of exaggerated injury.

 

[Rounders]

Is this just a ploy to keep Portis out of the preseason.....are we witnessing some skeletor moves here?

is it necessary to make it a "move?" i mean, LT just says, "I'm not gonna," and he doesn't. not sure that there's a need to shroud it in some type of exaggerated injury.

Agreed a "move" is not necessary, but with Portis's comments last year about pre-season maybe this has something to do with it. Who knows. I'm just hoping over here as I own him in 2 dynasty leagues.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Tendonitis isn't that big of a deal is it? Isn't it primarily a pain control issue? I would imagine they'll just continue to rest him as much as they can in the pre-season.

The problem with tendonitis is that it's inflammation of the muscle tendon, in other words, whenever he uses the muscle it inflams the tendon. It's generally an overuse injury. For example, tennis elbow is tendonitis of the forearm tendon caused by repeated stress on the wrist extensor muscles. The tendons take a lot of the stress applied during muscle contractions. So, the muscle will have to be unloaded and the tendon will have to heal 100% or it will be an issue all year long. Yes, I'm a doctor.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Tendonitis isn't that big of a deal is it? Isn't it primarily a pain control issue? I would imagine they'll just continue to rest him as much as they can in the pre-season.

The problem with tendonitis is that it's inflammation of the muscle tendon, in other words, whenever he uses the muscle it inflams the tendon. It's generally an overuse injury. For example, tennis elbow is tendonitis of the forearm tendon caused by repeated stress on the wrist extensor muscles. The tendons take a lot of the stress applied during muscle contractions. So, the muscle will have to be unloaded and the tendon will have to heal 100% or it will be an issue all year long. Yes, I'm a doctor.

We would accept it even if you lived at the Holiday Inn last night

 

[Neo]

Tendonitis isn't that big of a deal is it? Isn't it primarily a pain control issue? I would imagine they'll just continue to rest him as much as they can in the pre-season.

The problem with tendonitis is that it's inflammation of the muscle tendon, in other words, whenever he uses the muscle it inflams the tendon. It's generally an overuse injury. For example, tennis elbow is tendonitis of the forearm tendon caused by repeated stress on the wrist extensor muscles. The tendons take a lot of the stress applied during muscle contractions. So, the muscle will have to be unloaded and the tendon will have to heal 100% or it will be an issue all year long. Yes, I'm a doctor.

How long does it usually take to fully heal?

 

[CrossEyed]

Tendonitis isn't that big of a deal is it? Isn't it primarily a pain control issue? I would imagine they'll just continue to rest him as much as they can in the pre-season.

The problem with tendonitis is that it's inflammation of the muscle tendon, in other words, whenever he uses the muscle it inflams the tendon. It's generally an overuse injury. For example, tennis elbow is tendonitis of the forearm tendon caused by repeated stress on the wrist extensor muscles. The tendons take a lot of the stress applied during muscle contractions. So, the muscle will have to be unloaded and the tendon will have to heal 100% or it will be an issue all year long. Yes, I'm a doctor.

"An issue" meaning what? He'll have some pain throughout the week and will skip practice quite a bit? Or he won't be as effective running the ball? I would think if this is primarily a pain control thing they can give him something on Sundays and make sure he gets some rest during the week.

 

[fatness]

Now, as far as Gibbs catering to Portis' desire to skip as much of the preseason as possible, after three years with him Gibbs may well have enough faith in him to let him do that under the cover of "recurring tendonitis". It's a valid point.

I agree with that. Especially since, if the Redskins do poorly again this year a lot of their fans will stop giving Gibbs the "benefit of the doubt" any more and decide it's time to move on, he can't coach well any more. Gibbs needs Portis to perform during the season, not to pass toughness tests in training camp.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Tendonitis isn't that big of a deal is it? Isn't it primarily a pain control issue? I would imagine they'll just continue to rest him as much as they can in the pre-season.

The problem with tendonitis is that it's inflammation of the muscle tendon, in other words, whenever he uses the muscle it inflams the tendon. It's generally an overuse injury. For example, tennis elbow is tendonitis of the forearm tendon caused by repeated stress on the wrist extensor muscles. The tendons take a lot of the stress applied during muscle contractions. So, the muscle will have to be unloaded and the tendon will have to heal 100% or it will be an issue all year long. Yes, I'm a doctor.

How long does it usually take to fully heal?

That depends on several factors, but tendonitis cannot fully heal if he doesn't take time off of it. It's like trying to take braces off of your teeth before they straighten up competely. The tendon will have to completely heal, or it will be susceptable to further injury until it does. Meaning, he will have to decrease the load on his quadriceps muscle group until the inflammation is out of the tendon. Assuming he does this, I would estimate it at 2-3 wks recovery time with the proper rehab (which I'm sure he's getting). That doesn't guarantee it won't become inflammed again during the season. Inflammation is tricky, and can be very painful. However, if he can stand the pain the only risk I foresee would be injury to other muscle groups (like the hamstring or groin) as they will have to compensate for the quad dysfunction.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Got a Dynasty draft in 10 Days... Landed #7 pick in 14 teamer... Pretty sure that I can some young stud (Addai or Maroney) w/ Portis now. This doesn't bother me either.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Tendonitis isn't that big of a deal is it? Isn't it primarily a pain control issue? I would imagine they'll just continue to rest him as much as they can in the pre-season.

The problem with tendonitis is that it's inflammation of the muscle tendon, in other words, whenever he uses the muscle it inflams the tendon. It's generally an overuse injury. For example, tennis elbow is tendonitis of the forearm tendon caused by repeated stress on the wrist extensor muscles. The tendons take a lot of the stress applied during muscle contractions. So, the muscle will have to be unloaded and the tendon will have to heal 100% or it will be an issue all year long. Yes, I'm a doctor.

How long does it usually take to fully heal?

That depends on several factors, but tendonitis cannot fully heal if he doesn't take time off of it. It's like trying to take braces off of your teeth before they straighten up competely. The tendon will have to completely heal, or it will be susceptable to further injury until it does. Meaning, he will have to decrease the load on his quadriceps muscle group until the inflammation is out of the tendon. Assuming he does this, I would estimate it at 2-3 wks recovery time with the proper rehab (which I'm sure he's getting). That doesn't guarantee it won't become inflammed again during the season. Inflammation is tricky, and can be very painful. However, if he can stand the pain the only risk I foresee would be injury to other muscle groups (like the hamstring or groin) as they will have to compensate for the quad dysfunction.

That's not exactly promising news.

 

[Neo]

Tendonitis isn't that big of a deal is it? Isn't it primarily a pain control issue? I would imagine they'll just continue to rest him as much as they can in the pre-season.

The problem with tendonitis is that it's inflammation of the muscle tendon, in other words, whenever he uses the muscle it inflams the tendon. It's generally an overuse injury. For example, tennis elbow is tendonitis of the forearm tendon caused by repeated stress on the wrist extensor muscles. The tendons take a lot of the stress applied during muscle contractions. So, the muscle will have to be unloaded and the tendon will have to heal 100% or it will be an issue all year long. Yes, I'm a doctor.

How long does it usually take to fully heal?

That depends on several factors, but tendonitis cannot fully heal if he doesn't take time off of it. It's like trying to take braces off of your teeth before they straighten up competely. The tendon will have to completely heal, or it will be susceptable to further injury until it does. Meaning, he will have to decrease the load on his quadriceps muscle group until the inflammation is out of the tendon. Assuming he does this, I would estimate it at 2-3 wks recovery time with the proper rehab (which I'm sure he's getting). That doesn't guarantee it won't become inflammed again during the season. Inflammation is tricky, and can be very painful. However, if he can stand the pain the only risk I foresee would be injury to other muscle groups (like the hamstring or groin) as they will have to compensate for the quad dysfunction.

Thanks. The bolded is the exact reason why I will try avoid him.......

 

[AnonymousBob]

Tendonitis isn't that big of a deal is it? Isn't it primarily a pain control issue? I would imagine they'll just continue to rest him as much as they can in the pre-season.

The problem with tendonitis is that it's inflammation of the muscle tendon, in other words, whenever he uses the muscle it inflams the tendon. It's generally an overuse injury. For example, tennis elbow is tendonitis of the forearm tendon caused by repeated stress on the wrist extensor muscles. The tendons take a lot of the stress applied during muscle contractions. So, the muscle will have to be unloaded and the tendon will have to heal 100% or it will be an issue all year long. Yes, I'm a doctor.

How long does it usually take to fully heal?

That depends on several factors, but tendonitis cannot fully heal if he doesn't take time off of it. It's like trying to take braces off of your teeth before they straighten up competely. The tendon will have to completely heal, or it will be susceptable to further injury until it does. Meaning, he will have to decrease the load on his quadriceps muscle group until the inflammation is out of the tendon. Assuming he does this, I would estimate it at 2-3 wks recovery time with the proper rehab (which I'm sure he's getting). That doesn't guarantee it won't become inflammed again during the season. Inflammation is tricky, and can be very painful. However, if he can stand the pain the only risk I foresee would be injury to other muscle groups (like the hamstring or groin) as they will have to compensate for the quad dysfunction.

Thanks. The bolded is the exact reason why I will try avoid him.......

I've been thinking Portis represents tremendous value but that bolded part has caused me to second guess myself.

 

[Routilla]

Running back Portis was out for the second straight day Wednesday, reduced to riding a stationary bicycle because of swelling and soreness due to tendinitis in his right knee, the same ailment that hampered him during offseason workouts.

"As much as he thought he was ready to go, it's two-a-days," trainer Bubba Tyer said. "We're going to try to modify his workout some and concentrate a little bit more on his strength work and his conditioning work without the trauma of practicing, cutting and turning. He feels a little discomfort when he cuts and turns."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Atl1...p&type=lgns

 

[jurb26]

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/WAS/10277232

ASHBURN, Va. (Aug. 1, 2007) -- So much for the Washington Redskins team that was supposed to be healthy.

Five key starters -- Clinton Portis, Chris Samuels, Marcus Washington, Santana Moss and Randy Thomas -- are either sidelined or are having their practice time curtailed less than one week into training camp.

Running back Portis was out for the second straight day, reduced to riding a stationary bicycle because of swelling and soreness due to tendinitis in his right knee, the same ailment that hampered him during offseason workouts.

"As much as he thought he was ready to go, it's two-a-days," trainer Bubba Tyer said. "We're going to try to modify his workout some and concentrate a little bit more on his strength work and his conditioning work without the trauma of practicing, cutting and turning. He feels a little discomfort when he cuts and turns."

Tyer said Portis will return in a matter of "days, not weeks" but will not participate in Saturday's scrimmage against the Baltimore Ravens.

Right guard Thomas was supposed to have recovered from last month's knee surgery by now, but he's only just starting to take part in some drills, doing a little more each day. Receiver Moss' work is being limited because of a sore leg, perhaps from overcompensating for the sprained groin he had this spring.

Strongside linebacker Washington has been rested for several practices after feeling a twinge in his surgically repaired hip.

"My body will tell me when I need to rest it, so that's the approach we're taking," Washington said. "Even some times when I feel like going, we'll go, 'No, let's rest it.' I'm not really concerned about it. I think when the season starts we'll be ready to go."

That's the general attitude with all the injuries. Even left tackle Samuels, who sprained a knee ligament Monday, is expected to miss four weeks at most, which would put him on pace to return for the season opener Sept. 9.

Also sidelined Wednesday morning were tight end Pete Schmitt (bruised shoulder), receiver Mike Espy (bruised knee), linebacker Dallas Sartz (strained hamstring), tight end Tyler Ecker (sore groin) and receiver Carl Berman (hamstring).

"As long as I've been in this game, people have been getting hurt," Thomas said. "You just have to prepare and try to get back."

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Don Banks reporting...

1. Make no mistake, even though the Redskins found out that they had two No. 1-caliber running backs last season with the breakthrough year turned in by Ladell Betts, there's no confusion about Clinton Portis being the starter if he's healthy in 2007. Gibbs and associate head coach/offense Al Saunders were very clear in telling me that Betts is the backup, even if he did run for 1,154 yards in nine starts last season, including a team-record tying five consecutive 100-yard rushing games (all after Thanksgiving).

The playoffs were filled last year with teams that featured a two-back approach to their running game, and the Redskins see the value in making sure Betts regularly spells Portis, who endured an injury-shortened season in 2006 (he hurt his shoulder in the preseason and broke a hand in Week 9). But while Washington plans on re-dedicating itself to the power running game that Gibbs loves this season, in order to take some of the load off young quarterback Jason Campbell, no one within the organization is expecting the Redskins to wind up with a pair of 1,000-yard rushers.

The scenario Washington would like to see is Portis finishing in the 1,500-yard range, with Betts totaling between 600-700 yards.The Redskins awarded Betts a five-year, $11 million contract extension in December, and that's a sizable deal for a No. 2 back. Washington just hopes it's an insurance policy it doesn't need like it did last year. But stay tuned, because Portis is currently sidelined with tendinitis in his right knee, the same injury that kept him out of a mid-June minicamp.

 

[KellysHeroes]

The Redskins feel Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) could play if Sunday was a regular-season game.

The team will hold Portis out of cutting drills as long as it takes him to get over his knee issue and says he's "days, not weeks" from resuming live work.

 

[fsufan]

Tendonitis isn't that big of a deal is it? Isn't it primarily a pain control issue? I would imagine they'll just continue to rest him as much as they can in the pre-season.

you would think basketball players would get tendonitis in the knees with all the running they do.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Tendonitis isn't that big of a deal is it? Isn't it primarily a pain control issue? I would imagine they'll just continue to rest him as much as they can in the pre-season.

you would think basketball players would get tendonitis in the knees with all the running they do.

The last basket ball game I saw... players were only running half the time... they walk or jog up the court these days.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

If you draft Portis in the 2nd what round are you taking LB ?

 

[Routilla]

If you draft Portis in the 2nd what round are you taking LB ?

This is probably the best question in this thread so far as you will have to grab Betts or risk an early pick as a bust. I would take him as soon as I have my main RBs,WRs and atleast 1 QB. After that it's time to get the insurance policy before someone else does.

 

[Rounders]

If you draft Portis in the 2nd what round are you taking LB ?

Well Betts FBG ADP is 80, so I think that you will need to take him a little before that to ensure you get him. So I'm thinking the 6th/7th round should do it.

 

[redman]

If you draft Portis in the 2nd what round are you taking LB ?

Well Betts FBG ADP is 80, so I think that you will need to take him a little before that to ensure you get him. So I'm thinking the 6th/7th round should do it.

Betts' receiving abilities may make him passable RB3 in ppr leagues, above and beyond handcuff value. I could see your other RB on his bye week and starting both Portis and Betts, especially with a favorable matchup in a given week.

 

[redman]

Don Banks reporting...

1. Make no mistake, even though the Redskins found out that they had two No. 1-caliber running backs last season with the breakthrough year turned in by Ladell Betts, there's no confusion about Clinton Portis being the starter if he's healthy in 2007. Gibbs and associate head coach/offense Al Saunders were very clear in telling me that Betts is the backup, even if he did run for 1,154 yards in nine starts last season, including a team-record tying five consecutive 100-yard rushing games (all after Thanksgiving).

The playoffs were filled last year with teams that featured a two-back approach to their running game, and the Redskins see the value in making sure Betts regularly spells Portis, who endured an injury-shortened season in 2006 (he hurt his shoulder in the preseason and broke a hand in Week 9). But while Washington plans on re-dedicating itself to the power running game that Gibbs loves this season, in order to take some of the load off young quarterback Jason Campbell, no one within the organization is expecting the Redskins to wind up with a pair of 1,000-yard rushers.

The scenario Washington would like to see is Portis finishing in the 1,500-yard range, with Betts totaling between 600-700 yards.The Redskins awarded Betts a five-year, $11 million contract extension in December, and that's a sizable deal for a No. 2 back. Washington just hopes it's an insurance policy it doesn't need like it did last year. But stay tuned, because Portis is currently sidelined with tendinitis in his right knee, the same injury that kept him out of a mid-June minicamp.

This is consistent with Gibbs' overall track record. He's not much for RBBC - he likes to use one guy predominantly, even to a fault as I think he's done with Portis the last few years. I'm hoping that he keeps Portis below 300 carries, but even that may not happen.

 

[broncofan13000]

Injuries Are a Sore Spot for PortisSwollen Knee Hampers Redskins Tailback Year After Shoulder, Hand WoesBy Jason La CanforaWashington Post Staff WriterThursday, August 2, 2007; E01When training camp began Friday, tailback Clinton Portis was glowing. His surgically repaired shoulder and hand were pain-free, and Portis believed an offseason bout of right knee tendinitis was finally behind him. "I feel great. I'm excited. I feel healthy," Portis said, eager to leave his lost 2006 season behind.But less than a week later, questions about his health have surfaced. Portis, 25, missed a second straight day of practice yesterday and will continue to strengthen and have treatment on his swollen knee, likely remaining on the sidelines until at least next week. Portis, whose tendinitis was diagnosed in May, was limited to eight games last season. He suffered a partial dislocation of his shoulder on the opening series of the preseason and later broke his hand. He never resembled the runner who set a franchise record with 1,516 yards in 2005.Backup Ladell Betts emerged as a competent feature back, providing security at the position and challenging Portis to prove he is still among the NFL's top runners this season. Given Portis's relatively slight frame by NFL standards (a generous 5 feet 11, 223 pounds), his lengthy layoff and his recent injury history, that might become a difficult task. The Redskins are committed to getting Portis fit by the start of the regular season, and they believe that if handled properly, the recurrence of tendinitis will not be an ongoing concern. The team is viewing his condition as a minor malady, but in a collision sport and at a position that puts enormous strain on the knees, it clearly warrants monitoring."Clinton's got a little soreness in his knee, the one he had patellar tendinitis in," said Bubba Tyer, Washington's director of sports medicine. "We're going to modify his workouts some and concentrate a little more on strengthening work and conditioning work without the trauma of practice -- cutting and turning. He felt a little discomfort in the cutting and turning and pivoting on his leg, so we'll get it a little bit stronger and then we'll get him back out there."Tyer is keeping a close eye on wide receiver Santana Moss, too. Moss's workload was curtailed yesterday because of a recurrence of discomfort in his groin. Moss was hampered by hamstring problems last season, developed a hip flexor strain this offseason, and, according to Tyer, the groin issue returned this week as a result of compensating for the issues with his hip. Moss set a franchise record for receiving yardage in 2005 and his health is important to the offense.Portis, never a huge proponent of preseason activities, brought a renewed enthusiasm to training camp, one the coaches hope will not wane as his time on the sidelines increases. He had said he would complete any preseason assignment sent his way. For as good as Portis felt, however, playing basketball, running sprints and passing running tests, Tyer said the athletic trainers anticipated some minor setbacks as Portis's activity increased. He is all but certain to miss Saturday's scrimmage in Baltimore."As much as he thought he was ready to do, it's two-a-days and it's football," Tyer said. "And it's a lot more cutting."Coach Joe Gibbs said the team will continue to err on the side of caution with Portis -- "We're just trying to do the best job we can with that thing," he said -- and running backs coach Earnest Byner aims to keep Portis in good spirits. "A lot of the healing process is mental," Byner said. "We want to make sure he stays upbeat, too, and stays emotionally challenged and feels good about himself."

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