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Player Spotlight: Curtis Martin (1 Viewer)

They signed Blaylock to replace Jordan. They wanted a backup RB. A guy like Jordan, who just wasn't going to play much behind Martin. Not while Edwards was around, anyhow.

Blaylock's contract makes him cheaper to keep than to cut this year, so he's on the team. The bigger question, in my mind, is why did they draft Washington? From what I've been able to cull, he's VERY similar to Blaylock.... a fast 3rd down RB who's durability to be an every down back has to be questioned. Both now have injury histories that raise questions. Washington may be better between the tackles than Blaylock is, but I haven't see enough of Leon to have a confident opinion.

Houston showed he can run between the tackles, but lacks good outside speed. That isn't a very good fit for this new Jets O line that is somewhat smallish, but very fast and athletic, guys who can pull and block in space.... and that is when Martin is at his best, running outside.

The real sleeper here could be Dontrelle Moore. He is rather like Martin... an all around back who can run inside and out, can catch and had 3.... maybe 4?.... 1000 yard rushing seasons in college. I was very surprised to see Moore go undrafted.

Martin WILL be a GREAT #3RB, who could easilly exceed those sort of low expectations. He could in fact end 2006 as a fairly solid #2, if he stays healthy.

The only legitimate concern with Martin, as far as I am concerned is did this knee surgery and inability to run his normal off season work out program, combined with his age make him more susceptable to injury in 2006? That is an issue that can not be answered until well after redraft time.

 
They signed Blaylock to replace Jordan.
and wasn't Jordan thought of as the future RB for the Jets? :hophead:
Not to Herm and Bradway.If Martin is healthy he's sure to start. He's the best blocker, And then you would have to see which other RB steps up.

 
They signed Blaylock to replace Jordan.
and wasn't Jordan thought of as the future RB for the Jets? :hophead:
He was, but basically, his contract ran out. He wanted a shot at being the man, and the Jets, he knew, would not do that as long as Martin was around. Jet fans used to SCREAM about how under utilized Jordan was. (They were right). Jordan got a HUGE contract from the Raiders, one the Jets could not come close to matching, based both on their cap situation and on how much money that had tied up with Martin (not to mention Pennington). Blaylock was a much cheaper replacement.PS: Scratch Moore.... I just heard KFFL reports he got cut!

 
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So, what you are saying is that Martin is always hurt but plays anyway? ALL NFL RB's are hurt... all the time. They take a beating week in and week out. Martin has been extraordinarilly durable, and has had very few serious injuries throughout his career. To call him injury prone is ridiculous. Period.
No, I'm not saying that Martin is injury prone. I'm saying that he's old and that, while he never used to get injured, he has had three leg injuries including two knee surgeries since he turned thirty, and that's a really bad trend. I'm not saying that his injury risk alone is the reason I'm scared of him. It's the combination of all these factors together. You can probably make a good case against any one of the factors I named, but when it comes down to it, when you add up a lot of small-medium risks, it becomes one huge risk.

 
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So, what you are saying is that Martin is always hurt but plays anyway? ALL NFL RB's are hurt... all the time. They take a beating week in and week out. Martin has been extraordinarilly durable, and has had very few serious injuries throughout his career. To call him injury prone is ridiculous. Period.
No, I'm not saying that Martin is injury prone. I'm saying that he's old and that, while he never used to get injured, he has had three leg injuries including two knee surgeries since he turned thirty, and that's a really bad trend. I'm not saying that his injury risk alone is the reason I'm scared of him. It's the combination of all these factors together. You can probably make a good case against any one of the factors I named, but when it comes down to it, when you add up a lot of small-medium risks, it becomes one huge risk.
He was 29 when he had the high ankle. If you want to count 2004 as a "leg injury", when he was listed once on the injury report as probable and won the NFL rushing title.... OK, I guess. After 2004, he had a minor scoping of the knee, something most NFL players go through at some point. The one point I do agree on is that he did have a serious knee injury in 2005, and the surgery was more than minor, although the Jets have been very tight lipped about what was done during that surgery. This last knee injury had nothing to do with the scoping he had done after the 2004 season. This last injury involved at least some ligament damage. The preseason should answer most of those concerns. I see risk here, but not nearly as high as you put on Martin. I would not want him as my #2 RB, but I wouldn't want McAllister, DD, Dillon, J Jones or F Taylor as my #2 either, although each of these RB's could have a #2 type of season.

 
Curtis Martin is 33 years old, has 4000+ touches of wear and tear on his body and had arthroscopic surgery on his right knee in December. He is a bye week band-aid at this point in his career.

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So, what you are saying is that Martin is always hurt but plays anyway? ALL NFL RB's are hurt... all the time. They take a beating week in and week out. Martin has been extraordinarilly durable, and has had very few serious injuries throughout his career. To call him injury prone is ridiculous. Period.
No, I'm not saying that Martin is injury prone. I'm saying that he's old and that, while he never used to get injured, he has had three leg injuries including two knee surgeries since he turned thirty, and that's a really bad trend. I'm not saying that his injury risk alone is the reason I'm scared of him. It's the combination of all these factors together. You can probably make a good case against any one of the factors I named, but when it comes down to it, when you add up a lot of small-medium risks, it becomes one huge risk.
He was 29 when he had the high ankle. If you want to count 2004 as a "leg injury", when he was listed once on the injury report as probable and won the NFL rushing title.... OK, I guess. After 2004, he had a minor scoping of the knee, something most NFL players go through at some point. The one point I do agree on is that he did have a serious knee injury in 2005, and the surgery was more than minor, although the Jets have been very tight lipped about what was done during that surgery. This last knee injury had nothing to do with the scoping he had done after the 2004 season. This last injury involved at least some ligament damage. The preseason should answer most of those concerns. I see risk here, but not nearly as high as you put on Martin. I would not want him as my #2 RB, but I wouldn't want McAllister, DD, Dillon, J Jones or F Taylor as my #2 either, although each of these RB's could have a #2 type of season.
Like it or not, there comes a time when age catches up with a player, as it did with Emmitt. Martin could still have another 1000 yard season left in him, but he's not going to carry the ball 350 times or average 4+ YPC again over a whole season again. You draft Martin with the expectation that he'll be a servicable #3 and try to get Houston for cheap in case he gets hurt.Best case: 1000 yards, 6 TD's, 40 receptions.

 
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They signed Blaylock to replace Jordan.
and wasn't Jordan thought of as the future RB for the Jets? :hophead:
He was, but basically, his contract ran out. He wanted a shot at being the man, and the Jets, he knew, would not do that as long as Martin was around. Jet fans used to SCREAM about how under utilized Jordan was. (They were right). Jordan got a HUGE contract from the Raiders, one the Jets could not come close to matching, based both on their cap situation and on how much money that had tied up with Martin (not to mention Pennington). Blaylock was a much cheaper replacement.PS: Scratch Moore.... I just heard KFFL reports he got cut!
I meant to post that since he had been one of my rookie sleepers. The Jets backfield was crowded but I thought he'd find a spot.
 
They signed Blaylock to replace Jordan.
and wasn't Jordan thought of as the future RB for the Jets? :hophead:
He was, but basically, his contract ran out. He wanted a shot at being the man, and the Jets, he knew, would not do that as long as Martin was around. Jet fans used to SCREAM about how under utilized Jordan was. (They were right). Jordan got a HUGE contract from the Raiders, one the Jets could not come close to matching, based both on their cap situation and on how much money that had tied up with Martin (not to mention Pennington). Blaylock was a much cheaper replacement.PS: Scratch Moore.... I just heard KFFL reports he got cut!
I meant to post that since he had been one of my rookie sleepers. The Jets backfield was crowded but I thought he'd find a spot.
He may land somewhere yet.... I also took him as a very late pick in a dynasty rookie draft. I don't know if his knee is an issue, or if they just weren't impressed. There haven't been any solid reports on how he did in rookie camp or why he got cut. The Jets clearly had one too many RB's on the roster..... he may have just been a numbers victim, although I wonder about that, since the Jets went out and signed another RB from a small school the same day.
 
They signed Blaylock to replace Jordan.
and wasn't Jordan thought of as the future RB for the Jets? :hophead:
Blaylock was a much cheaper replacement.
this is and isn't true. Blaylock's contract vs. Lamont's Raiders contract is but Blaylock makes more as a Jet than Lamont did. It's a shame Lamont wasn't OK with that much money sure would have been neat to see him continue as a Jet
 
They signed Blaylock to replace Jordan.
and wasn't Jordan thought of as the future RB for the Jets? :hophead:
Blaylock was a much cheaper replacement.
this is and isn't true. Blaylock's contract vs. Lamont's Raiders contract is but Blaylock makes more as a Jet than Lamont did. It's a shame Lamont wasn't OK with that much money sure would have been neat to see him continue as a Jet
LOL, Bri.... that's what I mean. Jordan was UFA. He was going to get MUCH more elsewhere as a starting RB, while there weren't any teams ready to believe Blaylock could be a feature back. Jordan wanted out from being Martin, and Oakland robbed the bank to sign him. I don't blame the guy at all, he got his payday and he's a starter, but he does like to complain ... and not just a little. Last year, he was in the press almost every week saying he needed more carries, but he also had muscle cramp problems from the workload, especially early in the season. I doubt Mangini would put up with that. I'm not sure Shell will, either.
 
For now it looks like Mangold will be OL depth and not start. 
Was this stated somewhere?I'd bet heavily against this.... I say Mangold starts from day 1. If not at Center then at Guard.
With Teague on a broken ankle Looks like Mangold is the Center.

I think that works out for the best with Teague coming back a few games into the season. This way Mangold gets all the preseason work.

 
Behind that same O-Line that Martin had, Getting handoffs from the same non-threatening QB that Martin had, Houston did a pretty darn good job for a rookie.

I'll take my chances with Houston past round 10 then with Martin in rounds 4-8. He may not be the man this year, but expect him to get the ball a lot more the next two years. If the Jets feel he can't carry the load and cut Houston next year, or draft another RB high, you wasted nothing by picking him and dropping next year in your fantasy league.

It all starts up front and D'Brick and Mangold will learn the line, don't expect great things from a young line, give it time.

 
Behind that same O-Line that Martin had, Getting handoffs from the same non-threatening QB that Martin had, Houston did a pretty darn good job for a rookie.

I'll take my chances with Houston past round 10 then with Martin in rounds 4-8. He may not be the man this year, but expect him to get the ball a lot more the next two years. If the Jets feel he can't carry the load and cut Houston next year, or draft another RB high, you wasted nothing by picking him and dropping next year in your fantasy league.

It all starts up front and D'Brick and Mangold will learn the line, don't expect great things from a young line, give it time.
I agree, and I'm cautiously optimistic about Houston, but I don't think Houston's good. He had fresh legs and he played against Oakland, Miami and Buffalo long after their seasons were decided. I just think that Houston seems most likely to pick up the slack if Martin gets old in a hurry, and I think that Martin's getting old in a hurry.
 

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