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Player Spotlight: DeSean Jackson (1 Viewer)

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2009 Player Spotlight Series

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Thread Topic: DeSean Jackson, WR, Philadelphia Eagles

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I find it interesting that this spotlight has been up for a couple of days already with no replies. There's a good reason why too. While most folks expect Jackson to improve on a stellar rookie season, there are a few hard-core Eagles fans (like myself) calling for caution.

Jackson's talent and high ceiling are undeniable. If he took a significant leap forward in year two, he could be a legit #1 wideout THIS YEAR. But what does that mean in Philly?????? While the Eagles should be one of the leagues top offenses, McNabb loves to spread the ball around. A return to health for Curtis and Brown, the addition of Maclin and McCoy, continued progression of Celek and the addition of another pass catching TE in Ingram, steady and reliable 3rd down option Avant...where are Jackson's targets going to come from? Except for T.O., McNabb has never force fed a WR talent.

Currently, Jackson has an ADP of WR23, which would necessitate an increase in production over 2008. I see that result as a bit optimistic. His talent, QB, and system suggest a very high ceiling, but barring multiple injuries in the Philly WR corps, a result close to last year is far more likely.

58 receptions for 900 yards and 4 TD's. Toss in another 10 rushes for 50 yards.

 
58 receptions for 900 yards and 4 TD's. Toss in another 10 rushes for 50 yards.
So you're projecting him to regress in terms of receptions, receiving yards and rushing yards? You talked about how he'll need injuries to improve - well Kevin Curtis is already dealing with an injury issue. Reggie Brown pretty much stinks and the rest of the WRs excluding Maclin aren't anything special. I don't think Jackson will be a WR1, but I do think he finishes in the 15-20 range this season, making him a solid WR2. I'd prefer to get him as a WR3 because I don't see a high reception total and I primarily play in PPR leagues. But even if he matches last year's projection with a couple of TDs more, he should end up close to being a Top 20 WR.
 
58 receptions for 900 yards and 4 TD's. Toss in another 10 rushes for 50 yards.
So you're projecting him to regress in terms of receptions, receiving yards and rushing yards? You talked about how he'll need injuries to improve - well Kevin Curtis is already dealing with an injury issue. Reggie Brown pretty much stinks and the rest of the WRs excluding Maclin aren't anything special. I don't think Jackson will be a WR1, but I do think he finishes in the 15-20 range this season, making him a solid WR2. I'd prefer to get him as a WR3 because I don't see a high reception total and I primarily play in PPR leagues. But even if he matches last year's projection with a couple of TDs more, he should end up close to being a Top 20 WR.
I said MULTIPLE injuries. Right now, it doesn't even appear Curtis will miss any time.That's not much of a regression in yards or catches, and it's actually a small increase in TD's....and a net result about where he ended last year. I'm not looking for a true regression from Jackson as much as looking for a result more consistant with both the history of McNabb's Eagles and the other talent on the roster.
 
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Understood. I think his floor is what he produced last season. I don't see him blowing up but I do think he can catch more passes and score a few more TDs. If Curtis struggles to stay healthy, I think Jackson has a clear path to be the Eagles' No. 1 WR this season. Even though they spread the ball around, I think Jackson is their most talented WR and I think Reid will find a way to get him the ball often.

 
Understood. I think his floor is what he produced last season. I don't see him blowing up but I do think he can catch more passes and score a few more TDs. If Curtis struggles to stay healthy, I think Jackson has a clear path to be the Eagles' No. 1 WR this season. Even though they spread the ball around, I think Jackson is their most talented WR and I think Reid will find a way to get him the ball often.
You might well be correct if Curtis stays off the field. But can we make projections now based on that assumption? Or project assuming Curtis is healthy? Put an asterisk next to Jackson and bump him to (just inside) the top 20 if Curtis is going to miss significant time...otherwise I stand by my thoughts....with a healthy WR crew, Jackson will be hard-pressed to meet current expectations (based on ADP).Really, he makes a nice draft target, because his floor seems fairly high (50ish, 750ish I'd say)...but if you take him I'd suggest investing in another WR2 type as well, because despite his talent, that floor is almost as likely as that ceiling (barring injuries).
 
How many TD's will he give away this year by dropping the ball on the 1? :excited:

Seriously though, if this kid gets his head on straight he could make a big impact on this team.

70/1000/5

 
DeSean Jackson is another one of my favorite players for this year, along with McFadden, Felix and Keller.

I think the Philly offense is going to explode this season, McNabb has more protection and more protection means more time for receivers to get open and this guy is the best Philly has. Just because Philly has a history of spreading the wealth several years doesn't mean its a lock to continue. You'd spread the wealth too if your #1 WR had been guys like Reggie Brown or James Thrash. Jackson is the most talented Eagle WR since Owens was there. Jackson put up just short of 1,000 yards as a rookie, which is a very rare feat for a rookie WR, yet he isn't really being hyped very much at all. I think some people are still nervous about his size, but I think that over the past few seasons we've learned that size isn't really a problem when you have speed to to burn and can get open quickly.

Some seem to think what he did last season is close to his ceiling, why is that? I realize that brown and Curtis missed some time and that allowed Jackson to get a jump start last year, but this year he's already ahead of those guys(and anyone else) and Jackson just missed on several big plays last year and with another year of experience and work with McNabb, I believe some of those near misses will become hits. The guy is only 22 and was in a west coast offense which is arguably the most difficult to learn offense there is for a WR. Yes he ran a similar offense in college, but the difference between this year and last year should still be monumental.

Jackson can get open deep, he can get open on short crossing patterns and he can take a quick pass to the house on any given play, I don't think we've seen anywhere near what he's capable of yet. I feel very strongly that he will be the best WR of the 08' draft class and is incredibly underrated in dynasty leagues.

As for this season, I'm expecting:

75 catches, 1,150 yards and 7 TD's. With the chance of an extra TD or 2 either on a return or on the ground, especially if they continue to line him up as a QB on certain plays.

I'd be perfectly happy with Jackson as my WR2 and from the early looks of things he's available at a WR3 price.

 
Understood. I think his floor is what he produced last season. I don't see him blowing up but I do think he can catch more passes and score a few more TDs. If Curtis struggles to stay healthy, I think Jackson has a clear path to be the Eagles' No. 1 WR this season. Even though they spread the ball around, I think Jackson is their most talented WR and I think Reid will find a way to get him the ball often.
Even with a healthy Curtis Jackson should be their #1 WR. I think a lot of people simply don't want to believe he's a talented playmaker, that last year was a fluke. Or he's too small. Or Philly spreads the ball around too much to have a good fantasy WR. I don't buy any of this. If you watched the guy play, he is for real. I think Jackson is in for a very good, perhaps great year. He's been drawing praise from Reid and with a year under his belt he could put up a very good year.

80 catches, 1200 yds, 6 TDs

 
58 receptions for 900 yards and 4 TD's. Toss in another 10 rushes for 50 yards.
So you're projecting him to regress in terms of receptions, receiving yards and rushing yards? You talked about how he'll need injuries to improve - well Kevin Curtis is already dealing with an injury issue. Reggie Brown pretty much stinks and the rest of the WRs excluding Maclin aren't anything special. I don't think Jackson will be a WR1, but I do think he finishes in the 15-20 range this season, making him a solid WR2. I'd prefer to get him as a WR3 because I don't see a high reception total and I primarily play in PPR leagues. But even if he matches last year's projection with a couple of TDs more, he should end up close to being a Top 20 WR.
DeSean Jackson is great in the open field and will bring a lot of value to the Eagles, but I'm not sure he'll be all that valuable in fantasy.McNabb will spread the ball around and Jackson may regress a little bit in catches and yards. I'll go:55 catches 800 yards 4 TDs10 rushes 100 yards 1 TD
 
58 receptions for 900 yards and 4 TD's. Toss in another 10 rushes for 50 yards.
So you're projecting him to regress in terms of receptions, receiving yards and rushing yards? You talked about how he'll need injuries to improve - well Kevin Curtis is already dealing with an injury issue. Reggie Brown pretty much stinks and the rest of the WRs excluding Maclin aren't anything special. I don't think Jackson will be a WR1, but I do think he finishes in the 15-20 range this season, making him a solid WR2. I'd prefer to get him as a WR3 because I don't see a high reception total and I primarily play in PPR leagues. But even if he matches last year's projection with a couple of TDs more, he should end up close to being a Top 20 WR.
DeSean Jackson is great in the open field and will bring a lot of value to the Eagles, but I'm not sure he'll be all that valuable in fantasy.McNabb will spread the ball around and Jackson may regress a little bit in catches and yards. I'll go:55 catches 800 yards 4 TDs10 rushes 100 yards 1 TD
This is about right. Anyone projecting him higher forgets that he was successful last year mostly out of necessity.
 
So Jackson had 912 yards as a rookie; which is as good a place as any to start.

900+ yards receiving, Rookie WR, 1960-Present

NAME YR RECYD

Sammy White 1976 906

Paul Warfield 1964 920

Eddie Royal 2008 980

Jerry Rice 1985 927

Randy Moss 1998 1313

Eddie Kennison 1996 924

Kevin Johnson 1999 986

Andre Johnson 2003 976

John Jefferson 1978 1001

DeSean Jackson 2008 912

Bob Hayes 1965 1003

Bill Groman 1960 1473

Terry Glenn 1996 1132

Ernest Givins 1986 1062

Joey Galloway 1995 1039

Marques Colston 2006 1038

Cris Collinsworth 1981 1009

Michael Clayton 2004 1193

Gary Clark 1985 926

Eddie Brown 1985 942

Billy Brooks 1986 1131

Dwayne Bowe 2007 995

Anquan Boldin 2003 1377

Now we obviously have to exclude Eddie Royal and Jackson from any comparison as to how they did in Year N+1; which leaves us with 21 people in our data set.

Logically, one might argue that if only 23 rookies have ever had 900+ yards receiving, they are likely to have great NFL careers. And a quick look at the aforementioned names supports that. But that DOESN'T necessarily mean they are a great bet to IMPROVE in their 2nd year.

In order to adjust for injuries, I compared the fantasy points per game for the 21 eligible players in Year 1 and Year 2.

NAME Year1 Year2 Better/Worse?

Sammy White 10.7 9.29 Worse

Paul Warfield 10.4 3.00 Worse

Eddie Royal 9.3 N/A N/A

Jerry Rice 7.5 15.44 Better

Randy Moss 14.6 12.96 Worse

Eddie Kennison 9.8 2.89 Worse

Kevin Johnson 9.1 4.18 Worse

Andre Johnson 7.5 9.39 Better

John Jefferson 12.8 11.27 Worse

DeSean Jackson 7.3 N/A N/A

Bob Hayes 13.7 14.37 Better

Bill Groman 15.7 15.68 Better

Terry Glenn 10.2 6.12 Worse

Ernest Givins 9.7 10.78 Better

Joey Galloway 10.5 7.67 Worse

Marques Colston 10.8 11.64 Better

Cris Collinsworth 9.3 8.44 Worse

Michael Clayton 10.3 2.66 Worse

Gary Clark 7.7 11.23 Better

Eddie Brown 9.7 7.53 Worse

Billy Brooks 10.1 7.52 Worse

Dwayne Bowe 8.1 9.01 Better

Anquan Boldin 11.7 6.83 Worse

13 of the 21 players actually declined as FANTASY PLAYERS in Year 2.

My point? People all too often count on a player having a straight line trajectory to greatness. So don't expect Jackson [or Eddie Royal] to improve this year simply because their performances as rookies stood out. Analyze their SPECIFIC situations and then make your bets.

 
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So Jackson had 912 yards as a rookie; which is as good a place as any to start.

900+ yards receiving, Rookie WR, 1960-Present

NAME YR RECYD

Sammy White 1976 906

Paul Warfield 1964 920

Eddie Royal 2008 980

Jerry Rice 1985 927

Randy Moss 1998 1313

Eddie Kennison 1996 924

Kevin Johnson 1999 986

Andre Johnson 2003 976

John Jefferson 1978 1001

DeSean Jackson 2008 912

Bob Hayes 1965 1003

Bill Groman 1960 1473

Terry Glenn 1996 1132

Ernest Givins 1986 1062

Joey Galloway 1995 1039

Marques Colston 2006 1038

Cris Collinsworth 1981 1009

Michael Clayton 2004 1193

Gary Clark 1985 926

Eddie Brown 1985 942

Billy Brooks 1986 1131

Dwayne Bowe 2007 995

Anquan Boldin 2003 1377

Now we obviously have to exclude Eddie Royal and Jackson from any comparison as to how they did in Year N+1; which leaves us with 21 people in our data set.

Logically, one might argue that if only 23 rookies have ever had 900+ yards receiving, they are likely to have great NFL careers. And a quick look at the aforementioned names supports that. But that DOESN'T necessarily mean they are a great bet to IMPROVE in their 2nd year.

In order to adjust for injuries, I compared the fantasy points per game for the 21 eligible players in Year 1 and Year 2.

NAME Year1 Year2 Better/Worse?

Sammy White 10.7 9.29 Worse

Paul Warfield 10.4 3.00 Worse

Eddie Royal 9.3 N/A N/A

Jerry Rice 7.5 15.44 Better

Randy Moss 14.6 12.96 Worse

Eddie Kennison 9.8 2.89 Worse

Kevin Johnson 9.1 4.18 Worse

Andre Johnson 7.5 9.39 Better

John Jefferson 12.8 11.27 Worse

DeSean Jackson 7.3 N/A N/A

Bob Hayes 13.7 14.37 Better

Bill Groman 15.7 15.68 Better

Terry Glenn 10.2 6.12 Worse

Ernest Givins 9.7 10.78 Better

Joey Galloway 10.5 7.67 Worse

Marques Colston 10.8 11.64 Better

Cris Collinsworth 9.3 8.44 Worse

Michael Clayton 10.3 2.66 Worse

Gary Clark 7.7 11.23 Better

Eddie Brown 9.7 7.53 Worse

Billy Brooks 10.1 7.52 Worse

Dwayne Bowe 8.1 9.01 Better

Anquan Boldin 11.7 6.83 Worse

13 of the 21 players actually declined as FANTASY PLAYERS in Year 2.

My point? People all too often count on a player having a straight line trajectory to greatness. So don't expect Jackson [or Eddie Royal] to improve this year simply because their performances as rookies stood out. Analyze their SPECIFIC situations and then make your bets.
Nice data to debunk a common mistake (assuming constant progression of numbers).Great dynasty prospect...slightly over-rated redraft prospect....and I'm a die-hard Eagles fan with a Jackson Jersey.

 
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Great dynasty prospect...slightly over-rated redraft prospect....and I'm a die-hard Eagles fan with a Jackson Jersey.
:goodposting: DeSean Jackson is one of my "lesser core players", he will probably never be a stud, I won't expect more than WR2 numbers from him, but I think he will maintain WR2/3 stats for quite a few years with the only risk being that he's a smaller WR so possible injuries. I'll take him over WRs with higher risk with the same ADP.
 
While Jackson is certainly an explosive athlete, I believe his size will always put a cap on his impact, in the NFL and fantasy football. He is the type of WR that every NFL team wants, as he can break open a game by himself, but I'm not targeting him in fantasy drafts. He will put up some monster seasons, ala Santana Moss, but I'm not banking on him being a yearly 8+ TD WR. He and Devin Hester will probably post similar stats this season, and in the future, imo...

For 2009, assuming he is the #1 WR in Philly and McNabb plays 15-16 games:

70 receptions

1000 yards

5 TD's

 
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Wanted to bump this up..

As an Eagles homer, Desean Jackson will be amazing this year. I would wager top 10 (or even higher)...

Several reasons for this:

Desean is very competitive and wants to be the best

All reports out of training camp indicate nobody can cover him.. including Assante. http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-13-59...agles-camp.html This has been the sentiment of Eagles reporters, non-Eagles reporters (like Moseley).. edit- another Desean article- http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle...Dominating.html

He has bulked up but hasnt lost speed

He may not be returning punts which should help his durability

He is mad in a sense about Maclin being paid more, drafted in the first round, etc which motivates him. http://www.gcobb.com/content/view/3961/1/

He is Donovan's go to guy.. and if Maclin is on the field, it will only open things up more for Desean. I think Maclin helps Desean.

(the knee hyperextension is no big deal)

last year, he had 62 /912 2 TD.. He should easily surpass the TD total. He was 29th last year as a rookie which is pretty impressive.

he is compared to Steve Smith... In 2002 Steve Smith had 54/872 3 TD and then in 2003 (his breakout year) he had 88/1110/7.

I think Desean will produce: 90/1250/7.. which would have placed him approximately 7th last year.

The only players I would say would definitely outproduce Desean are: Fitz, AJ, Reggie Wayne, Calvin Johnson. Throw in Jennings, Roddy White, Boldin, Randy Moss, and Steve Smith and that puts Desean in the 6-11 range.

 
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Understood. I think his floor is what he produced last season. I don't see him blowing up but I do think he can catch more passes and score a few more TDs. If Curtis struggles to stay healthy, I think Jackson has a clear path to be the Eagles' No. 1 WR this season. Even though they spread the ball around, I think Jackson is their most talented WR and I think Reid will find a way to get him the ball often.
Even with a healthy Curtis Jackson should be their #1 WR. I think a lot of people simply don't want to believe he's a talented playmaker, that last year was a fluke. Or he's too small. Or Philly spreads the ball around too much to have a good fantasy WR. I don't buy any of this. If you watched the guy play, he is for real. I think Jackson is in for a very good, perhaps great year. He's been drawing praise from Reid and with a year under his belt he could put up a very good year.

80 catches, 1200 yds, 6 TDs
:shrug:
13 of the 21 players actually declined as FANTASY PLAYERS in Year 2.

My point? People all too often count on a player having a straight line trajectory to greatness. So don't expect Jackson [or Eddie Royal] to improve this year simply because their performances as rookies stood out. Analyze their SPECIFIC situations and then make your bets.
IMO this is likely a classic case of using stats to say what you want them to say (admit I'm not sure). for ex I wonder how many of those "worse" candidates had notably bigger rook seasons than Jackson (meaning more likely to be "worse" the next year) and if so how much worse was "worse"? or what about other factors that made them worse like losing their stud QB that year? etc a list of their exact yds and TDs those first 2 might shed some more light if handy -

 
My point? People all too often count on a player having a straight line trajectory to greatness. So don't expect Jackson [or Eddie Royal] to improve this year simply because their performances as rookies stood out. Analyze their SPECIFIC situations and then make your bets.
Agreed.. in Desean's situation, he is set up for success. Coach Reid loves him. He has a great work ethic and wants to be great. He has natural talents that many on your top 21 list do not possess (e.g.- Eddie Kennison, kevin Johnson,etc). He is already the QBs favorite target. The offense is stable (e.g. no change in coach/system). The offense upgraded in many areas which I believe will actually help him (hard for teams to double cover him). Desean has two things that will also motivate him: Maclin, and his father's passing. I would stay away from Royal because I agree looking at the situation> For Royal, he has a downgrade at QB. New coach and new offensive system. Too much risk and hard to expect him to equal last year.Obviously, injuries cannot be predicted. But, with only 2 TD last year (should have been 3 :) he should easily surpass that number.
 
Over the past month, I've revised my (fantasy) opinion of Jackson upwards. In camp, he's shown himself to be a bonafide #1 threat, and none of the Eagles excellant corners have been able to stick with him in man coverage. He's a stud, pure and simple.

82/1100/7 is what I'm thinking now.

Even more promising as an Eagles fan is that Maclin could set up a Fitz/Boldin type situation in a year or two! (I realize that's ridiculously optimistic, but I can dream! :goodposting: )

 
Over the past month, I've revised my (fantasy) opinion of Jackson upwards. In camp, he's shown himself to be a bonafide #1 threat, and none of the Eagles excellant corners have been able to stick with him in man coverage. He's a stud, pure and simple.82/1100/7 is what I'm thinking now. Even more promising as an Eagles fan is that Maclin could set up a Fitz/Boldin type situation in a year or two! (I realize that's ridiculously optimistic, but I can dream! :lmao: )
I don't know about Fitz/Boldin, they don't have the overwhelming size of those guys. However, if you are ridiculously optimistic, maybe a young Bruce/Holt would suffice. I've always seen Jackson as having an Isaac Bruce like ceiling.
 
Over the past month, I've revised my (fantasy) opinion of Jackson upwards. In camp, he's shown himself to be a bonafide #1 threat, and none of the Eagles excellant corners have been able to stick with him in man coverage. He's a stud, pure and simple.82/1100/7 is what I'm thinking now. Even more promising as an Eagles fan is that Maclin could set up a Fitz/Boldin type situation in a year or two! (I realize that's ridiculously optimistic, but I can dream! :wub: )
I don't know about Fitz/Boldin, they don't have the overwhelming size of those guys. However, if you are ridiculously optimistic, maybe a young Bruce/Holt would suffice. I've always seen Jackson as having an Isaac Bruce like ceiling.
Ill take that , a young Isaac Bruce would score over 10 TD's ..
 
Wanted to bump this up..

As an Eagles homer, Desean Jackson will be amazing this year. I would wager top 10 (or even higher)...

Several reasons for this:

Desean is very competitive and wants to be the best

All reports out of training camp indicate nobody can cover him.. including Assante. http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-13-59...agles-camp.html This has been the sentiment of Eagles reporters, non-Eagles reporters (like Moseley).. edit- another Desean article- http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle...Dominating.html

He has bulked up but hasnt lost speed

He may not be returning punts which should help his durability

He is mad in a sense about Maclin being paid more, drafted in the first round, etc which motivates him. http://www.gcobb.com/content/view/3961/1/

He is Donovan's go to guy.. and if Maclin is on the field, it will only open things up more for Desean. I think Maclin helps Desean.

(the knee hyperextension is no big deal)

last year, he had 62 /912 2 TD.. He should easily surpass the TD total. He was 29th last year as a rookie which is pretty impressive.

he is compared to Steve Smith... In 2002 Steve Smith had 54/872 3 TD and then in 2003 (his breakout year) he had 88/1110/7.

I think Desean will produce: 90/1250/7.. which would have placed him approximately 7th last year.

The only players I would say would definitely outproduce Desean are: Fitz, AJ, Reggie Wayne, Calvin Johnson. Throw in Jennings, Roddy White, Boldin, Randy Moss, and Steve Smith and that puts Desean in the 6-11 range.
I would say Welker, Bowe, Colston, Housh, Vincent Jackson, Brandon Marshall and TO out produce Desean pretty easily this year too.
 
Wanted to bump this up..

As an Eagles homer, Desean Jackson will be amazing this year. I would wager top 10 (or even higher)...

Several reasons for this:

Desean is very competitive and wants to be the best

All reports out of training camp indicate nobody can cover him.. including Assante. http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-13-59...agles-camp.html This has been the sentiment of Eagles reporters, non-Eagles reporters (like Moseley).. edit- another Desean article- http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle...Dominating.html

He has bulked up but hasnt lost speed

He may not be returning punts which should help his durability

He is mad in a sense about Maclin being paid more, drafted in the first round, etc which motivates him. http://www.gcobb.com/content/view/3961/1/

He is Donovan's go to guy.. and if Maclin is on the field, it will only open things up more for Desean. I think Maclin helps Desean.

(the knee hyperextension is no big deal)

last year, he had 62 /912 2 TD.. He should easily surpass the TD total. He was 29th last year as a rookie which is pretty impressive.

he is compared to Steve Smith... In 2002 Steve Smith had 54/872 3 TD and then in 2003 (his breakout year) he had 88/1110/7.

I think Desean will produce: 90/1250/7.. which would have placed him approximately 7th last year.

The only players I would say would definitely outproduce Desean are: Fitz, AJ, Reggie Wayne, Calvin Johnson. Throw in Jennings, Roddy White, Boldin, Randy Moss, and Steve Smith and that puts Desean in the 6-11 range.
I would say Welker, Bowe, Colston, Housh, Vincent Jackson, Brandon Marshall and TO out produce Desean pretty easily this year too.
Dunno about "pretty easily", but all those guys are certainly in the mix.
 
He was one of the few rookies that really impressed me last year. DeSean is the real deal and he is a true playmaker. He can score from anywhere on the field and he's the kind of guy you need to give the ball to as many times as you can.

DeSean is the kind of player I want on my fantasy teams, probably even more so in non PPR leagues.

72 receptions for 1100 yards 8 td's

8 rushes 95 yards and 2 td's

 
Wanted to bump this up..

As an Eagles homer, Desean Jackson will be amazing this year. I would wager top 10 (or even higher)...

Several reasons for this:

Desean is very competitive and wants to be the best

All reports out of training camp indicate nobody can cover him.. including Assante. http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-13-59...agles-camp.html This has been the sentiment of Eagles reporters, non-Eagles reporters (like Moseley).. edit- another Desean article- http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle...Dominating.html

He has bulked up but hasnt lost speed

He may not be returning punts which should help his durability

He is mad in a sense about Maclin being paid more, drafted in the first round, etc which motivates him. http://www.gcobb.com/content/view/3961/1/

He is Donovan's go to guy.. and if Maclin is on the field, it will only open things up more for Desean. I think Maclin helps Desean.

(the knee hyperextension is no big deal)

last year, he had 62 /912 2 TD.. He should easily surpass the TD total. He was 29th last year as a rookie which is pretty impressive.

he is compared to Steve Smith... In 2002 Steve Smith had 54/872 3 TD and then in 2003 (his breakout year) he had 88/1110/7.

I think Desean will produce: 90/1250/7.. which would have placed him approximately 7th last year.

The only players I would say would definitely outproduce Desean are: Fitz, AJ, Reggie Wayne, Calvin Johnson. Throw in Jennings, Roddy White, Boldin, Randy Moss, and Steve Smith and that puts Desean in the 6-11 range.
you might be on to something...the Eagles' will most certainly take a defensive hit without JJ and now with Bradley out for the season..Perhaps the Eagles' need to pass more, as they're more likely to be involved in shootouts..the defense should be weaker than last year :shark: you can't count on Kevin Curtis for anything...Westbrook is also iffy, and will miss playing time, as per usual..so who will catch passes from McNabb? Jackson and Celek.

 
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He'll likely be returning punts again this year. I want this guy on my team bad. He's one of those guys I couldn't stand to see blow up on somebody else's team.

 
Wanted to bump this up..

As an Eagles homer, Desean Jackson will be amazing this year. I would wager top 10 (or even higher)...

Several reasons for this:

Desean is very competitive and wants to be the best

All reports out of training camp indicate nobody can cover him.. including Assante. http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-13-59...agles-camp.html This has been the sentiment of Eagles reporters, non-Eagles reporters (like Moseley).. edit- another Desean article- http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle...Dominating.html

He has bulked up but hasnt lost speed

He may not be returning punts which should help his durability

He is mad in a sense about Maclin being paid more, drafted in the first round, etc which motivates him. http://www.gcobb.com/content/view/3961/1/

He is Donovan's go to guy.. and if Maclin is on the field, it will only open things up more for Desean. I think Maclin helps Desean.

(the knee hyperextension is no big deal)

last year, he had 62 /912 2 TD.. He should easily surpass the TD total. He was 29th last year as a rookie which is pretty impressive.

he is compared to Steve Smith... In 2002 Steve Smith had 54/872 3 TD and then in 2003 (his breakout year) he had 88/1110/7.

I think Desean will produce: 90/1250/7.. which would have placed him approximately 7th last year.

The only players I would say would definitely outproduce Desean are: Fitz, AJ, Reggie Wayne, Calvin Johnson. Throw in Jennings, Roddy White, Boldin, Randy Moss, and Steve Smith and that puts Desean in the 6-11 range.
You think Moss will end up in the 6-11 range this year? Barring injuries which are impossible to predict, I see about a 10% chance that Moss falls outside of the Top 3. I would be willing to bet he finishes as the #1 WR this year quite comfortably.
 
He'll likely be returning punts again this year.
Do you have a source? I thought so as well, although I've been a bit worried since he hasn't seen any action on punt returns yet in preseason.
from rotoworld:No. 1 WR DeSean Jackson will return punts for the Eagles Thursday.Rookie Jeremy Maclin has fumbled in each of the preseason games, leading the team's special teams coach to say "it's a huge concern." He'll continue the process of being a returner at the NFL level after Jackson leaves the game. Jackson returned punts for the Birds last season and there's a pretty good chance he'll do it again.
 
I am a huge Eagles fan and DeSean Jackson is one of my favorite players. I'd love for him to be a top WR but the problem is that the Eagles spread the ball around so much. From top to bottom, the Philly WR core has a lot of good players. Not true studs, but they all get on the field a lot. Curtis, Avant, Baskett, and Brown all get on the field a lot, and now they have Maclin. Add that to the fact that Westbrook will catch a lot of passes and they like to throw to the TE. Its just gonna be hard for him to get enough targets to be considered a #1 or even a high end #2 fantasy WR.

 
84 catches 1223 yards 9 total tds

(includes 2 on runs or returns)

Nice schedule early, wk2 home vs Saints, wk3 home vs Chiefs, wk4 home vs depleted Bucs D- DeSean will get off quick and ride the rhythm all year long. One of the best WR2 picks you can make if you loaded up on RBs early.

 
Watching the JAX game from earlier tonight. Man, do I like what I see from Jackson. Donovan looks for him constantly and he is almost uncoverable without being doubled, which I don't think is possible with all the weapons Phillly has. He's in for a beastly season if he stays healthy.

 
Understood. I think his floor is what he produced last season. I don't see him blowing up but I do think he can catch more passes and score a few more TDs. If Curtis struggles to stay healthy, I think Jackson has a clear path to be the Eagles' No. 1 WR this season. Even though they spread the ball around, I think Jackson is their most talented WR and I think Reid will find a way to get him the ball often.
Jackson is already the WR1 in Philly and I agree with your last sentence in particular. It does contradict the don't-see-him-blowing-up because a perceived floor from his 08 season and an increase in opportunities is a perfect storm for moving into the top 10ish WR neighborhood. Pass friendly offense + speed to spare + second year in the league + accurate QB + a playbook and other options to keep defenders honest=

85 recep

1175 yds

10 TDs

125 rush yds 1 TD

2 return TDs

 
i'm high on jackson this year much like megatron last.

80 rec

1200 yrds

9 tds

and if you're in a league with return yardage he's even more valuable. hopefully this pays off like megatron last year.

 
Through 3 weeks; 12 receptions, 259 yds, 2 TDs, 48 rush yds and a punt returned for a TD.

Is he know officially a #1 WR, or is it too soon, wait until McNabb is back? Unfortunately I shot myself in the foot yesterday, benching him because of the groin injury, combined with the weather, but this guy clearly has a very promising future ahead of him.

Thoughts?

 
Through 3 weeks; 12 receptions, 259 yds, 2 TDs, 48 rush yds and a punt returned for a TD.Is he know officially a #1 WR, or is it too soon, wait until McNabb is back? Unfortunately I shot myself in the foot yesterday, benching him because of the groin injury, combined with the weather, but this guy clearly has a very promising future ahead of him. Thoughts?
Almost benched him myself yesterday, got cold feet and put him back in the lineup about 20 minutes to kickoff. MVP of my lineup. Dude is a stud. I will miss him next week on his bye, but I am glad to see he gets time to rest that sore hammy.He is taking the next step as a #1 WR. I think he will be in the discussion in next years draft as a late 2nd or early 3 rounder. If you have him, if he can stay healthy... I think you got a steal. :rolleyes:
 
He's actually currently the #1 WR in my non-PPR money league @ yahoo.com. Next 3 games after the bye aren't bad either; vs TB, @ OAK, @ WAS.

 
Wanted to bump this up..

As an Eagles homer, Desean Jackson will be amazing this year. I would wager top 10 (or even higher)...

Several reasons for this:

Desean is very competitive and wants to be the best

All reports out of training camp indicate nobody can cover him.. including Assante. http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-13-59...agles-camp.html This has been the sentiment of Eagles reporters, non-Eagles reporters (like Moseley).. edit- another Desean article- http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagle...Dominating.html

He has bulked up but hasnt lost speed

He may not be returning punts which should help his durability

He is mad in a sense about Maclin being paid more, drafted in the first round, etc which motivates him. http://www.gcobb.com/content/view/3961/1/

He is Donovan's go to guy.. and if Maclin is on the field, it will only open things up more for Desean. I think Maclin helps Desean.

(the knee hyperextension is no big deal)

last year, he had 62 /912 2 TD.. He should easily surpass the TD total. He was 29th last year as a rookie which is pretty impressive.

he is compared to Steve Smith... In 2002 Steve Smith had 54/872 3 TD and then in 2003 (his breakout year) he had 88/1110/7.

I think Desean will produce: 90/1250/7.. which would have placed him approximately 7th last year.

The only players I would say would definitely outproduce Desean are: Fitz, AJ, Reggie Wayne, Calvin Johnson. Throw in Jennings, Roddy White, Boldin, Randy Moss, and Steve Smith and that puts Desean in the 6-11 range.
:lmao: (is it wrong to bow to myself? perhaps)... I was wrong on his catches by a lot it seems... but with long plays and punt returns.. he makes up for it
 

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