Player Spotlight: Javon Walker (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

2008 Player Spotlight Series

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Thread Topic: Javon Walker, WR, Oakland Raiders

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[dmac37]

Everybody is down on him, I took a chance considering his last two years:

2006- averaged 15.24 pts per game

2007- scored 20.90 and 18.10 pts per game the first two weeks before being injured

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I don't have a good vibe on Javon Walker. He's coming off injury, he's had injuries even prior to this year and I'm just not sure he's totally focused on football, making a quality comeback even more difficult.

He's now on a very inexperienced passing team, a team that couldn't utilize the talents of Randy Moss who broke the NFL record in Td's the year after he left the Raiders. I'd rather take a stand against Walker than taking a risk on him.

52 receptions for 624 yards and 4 td's

 

[H.K.]

Here is what I posted in Walker's spotlight before last season, when Walker was a consensus top 15, borderline Top 10 ADP WR:

Javon will be the single biggest disappointment for FFers in 2007:

54 recepts 711 yards 4 TD's

Actual:8 Games: 26 catches for 287 yards and 0 TD's

I'm still shocked that nobody else saw that coming with Cutler at QB because it was so obvious, but I do appreciate all the PM's thanking me for helping show people the light on Walker and saving their FF seasons. You guys are all welcome and I was glad to help.

Anyway, now he is in Oakland, with an inexperienced QB, an owner who is losing it, and a coach who was told to resign in the offseason but would not....add in all the personal garbage Walker has heaped on himself with his Vegas excursion and we have the makings for a fine season.

47 recepts 611 yards 2 TD's

 

[obxlegends]

Here is what I posted in Walker's spotlight before last season, when Walker was a consensus top 15, borderline Top 10 ADP WR:

Javon will be the single biggest disappointment for FFers in 2007:

54 recepts 711 yards 4 TD's

Actual:8 Games: 26 catches for 287 yards and 0 TD's

I'm still shocked that nobody else saw that coming with Cutler at QB because it was so obvious.

You're kidding me right? Walker's production, or lack thereof, was solely due to injuries. He was light out the year before and the first 2 games of 07 with Cutler as quarterback.

Don't go patting yourself on your back too much for this one.

 

[H.K.]

He was light out the year before and the first 2 games of 07 with Cutler as quarterback.

From last year's thread:

Walker saw his FF PPG plummet by 33% with Cutler at QB in PPR formats.

With Plummer he averaged 4.25 receptions 71.2 yards receiving 0.5 TD per game (along with 120 yard rush & 1 TD)

But with Cutler at QB he dropped to 3.6 receptions 46 yards receiving and 0.4 TD catches per game (only 3 yards rushing)

Plummer made him a top 10 FF WR, Cutler made him a borderline WR3.

The important thing moving forward is that Walker looked good with veteran's like Favre and Plummer, but struggled with Cutler. No reason to expect a change in that trend with Russell.

 

[Chunky Soup]

He was light out the year before and the first 2 games of 07 with Cutler as quarterback.

From last year's thread:

Walker saw his FF PPG plummet by 33% with Cutler at QB in PPR formats.

With Plummer he averaged 4.25 receptions 71.2 yards receiving 0.5 TD per game (along with 120 yard rush & 1 TD)

But with Cutler at QB he dropped to 3.6 receptions 46 yards receiving and 0.4 TD catches per game (only 3 yards rushing)

Plummer made him a top 10 FF WR, Cutler made him a borderline WR3.

The important thing moving forward is that Walker looked good with veteran's like Favre and Plummer, but struggled with Cutler. No reason to expect a change in that trend with Russell.

As the previous poster said, this had nothing to do with Cutler. Please quit patting yourself on the back, Walker had a serious injury and never recovered.And actually, he looked damn good with Cutler for the first two games before injury. I'd say your prediction in reality was dead wrong.

 

[FUBAR]

irrelevant drivel

As the previous poster said, this had nothing to do with Cutler. Please quit patting yourself on the back, Walker had a serious injury and never recovered.And actually, he looked damn good with Cutler for the first two games before injury. I'd say your prediction in reality was dead wrong.

It's HK, let him ramble.IF healthy, Walker will net around 5-6 receptions per game at 15+ ypr, and 5-8 TDs. I'll go with 80/1200/7, but that is a decent sized IF.IF not healthy, he'll be a waste of roster space. Probably a couple good games this year, but I'll only draft him as a flier.

 

[JPeso]

irrelevant drivel

As the previous poster said, this had nothing to do with Cutler. Please quit patting yourself on the back, Walker had a serious injury and never recovered.And actually, he looked damn good with Cutler for the first two games before injury. I'd say your prediction in reality was dead wrong.

It's HK, let him ramble.IF healthy, Walker will net around 5-6 receptions per game at 15+ ypr, and 5-8 TDs. I'll go with 80/1200/7, but that is a decent sized IF.

IF not healthy, he'll be a waste of roster space. Probably a couple good games this year, but I'll only draft him as a flier.

This is a fair estimate, but with Walker, like A. Johnson, it is hard not to pad injuries in to the total line. Essentially we will have 35-40 WRs putting up last year's top 20 numbers.

 

[obxlegends]

He was light out the year before and the first 2 games of 07 with Cutler as quarterback.

From last year's thread:

Walker saw his FF PPG plummet by 33% with Cutler at QB in PPR formats.

With Plummer he averaged 4.25 receptions 71.2 yards receiving 0.5 TD per game (along with 120 yard rush & 1 TD)

But with Cutler at QB he dropped to 3.6 receptions 46 yards receiving and 0.4 TD catches per game (only 3 yards rushing)

Plummer made him a top 10 FF WR, Cutler made him a borderline WR3.

The important thing moving forward is that Walker looked good with veteran's like Favre and Plummer, but struggled with Cutler. No reason to expect a change in that trend with Russell.

As the previous poster said, this had nothing to do with Cutler. Please quit patting yourself on the back, Walker had a serious injury and never recovered.And actually, he looked damn good with Cutler for the first two games before injury. I'd say your prediction in reality was dead wrong.

Just to follow up my previous post, Brandon Marshall's play didn't seem hampered by Jay Cutler being QB last year. You want to associate lower number with Walker and attach them to Cutler. QB's tend to grow and mature from their Rookie to 1st to 2nd years. A strange concept I know.

 

[FUBAR]

irrelevant drivel

As the previous poster said, this had nothing to do with Cutler. Please quit patting yourself on the back, Walker had a serious injury and never recovered.And actually, he looked damn good with Cutler for the first two games before injury. I'd say your prediction in reality was dead wrong.

It's HK, let him ramble.IF healthy, Walker will net around 5-6 receptions per game at 15+ ypr, and 5-8 TDs. I'll go with 80/1200/7, but that is a decent sized IF.

IF not healthy, he'll be a waste of roster space. Probably a couple good games this year, but I'll only draft him as a flier.

This is a fair estimate, but with Walker, like A. Johnson, it is hard not to pad injuries in to the total line. Essentially we will have 35-40 WRs putting up last year's top 20 numbers.

True, which is why I usually use per game stats in my projections. If I were to make projections with injuries factored in, I'd be closer to 40/600/3 here, but I have limited success projecting injuries.

 

[obxlegends]

Assuming a full healthy season then you're looking at...

67/838/4

Of course you should monitor his progress through training camp and adjust accordingly.

 

[joffer]

Here is what I posted in Walker's spotlight before last season, when Walker was a consensus top 15, borderline Top 10 ADP WR:

Javon will be the single biggest disappointment for FFers in 2007:

54 recepts 711 yards 4 TD's

Actual:8 Games: 26 catches for 287 yards and 0 TD's

I'm still shocked that nobody else saw that coming with Cutler at QB because it was so obvious, but I do appreciate all the PM's thanking me for helping show people the light on Walker and saving their FF seasons. You guys are all welcome and I was glad to help.

holy ####

 

[H.K.]

Just to follow up my previous post, Brandon Marshall's play didn't seem hampered by Jay Cutler being QB last year.

Quite the contrary, Marshall's play was substantially enhanced by Cutler. Why? he got the targets. Another proactive great call by me and reason I predicted Walker's numbers would suffer in his second year in DEN.

You want to associate lower number with Walker and attach them to Cutler. QB's tend to grow and mature from their Rookie to 1st to 2nd years. A strange concept I know.

Exactly. Which takes us to today. Russell still has virtually zero experience. As far as game experience goes, he is still a rookie. There is a big difference between a year in the NFL and a year in the NFL as a starter...especially at QB. Walker has had great years with Favre (like so many WRs did that every played with one of the undisputable GOAT's) and with Plummer, because Jake simply zeroed in on him. However, Walker is not going to produce anywhere near his career highs in OAK this season. He won't get the targets like he did in his high watermark performances. He's also a proven injury risk and a guy where trouble just seems to find him off the field.

 

[AnonymousBob]

[H.K. Bait]

70 receptions, 1050 yards and 5 touchdowns.

[/H.K. Bait]

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Assuming a full healthy season then you're looking at...67/838/4Of course you should monitor his progress through training camp and adjust accordingly.

Takes his place by Donte Stallworth...

 

[The Jacket]

5 catches, 20 yards, -1 TD. Walker hates him some young'un QB.

Thank me next year.

/HK

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Javon Walker's a talented player but there's just too many question marks (qb,o-line,knee,attitude) for my liking. If he falls far enough I'll take a shot but I doubt it.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Javon Walker's a talented player but there's just too many question marks (qb,o-line,knee,attitude) for my liking. If he falls far enough I'll take a shot but I doubt it.

Health risk is understandable. He has an ADP of wr #34. I do not believe Russell will be worse than McNown/Culpepper of last year yet Porter last season had 700 yards and ranked as the #37 wr. If Walker stays healthy I'm not sure how he won't outperform his ADP by a decent margin.

 

[massraider]

I don't have a good vibe on Javon Walker. He's coming off injury, he's had injuries even prior to this year and I'm just not sure he's totally focused on football, making a quality comeback even more difficult.He's now on a very inexperienced passing team, a team that couldn't utilize the talents of Randy Moss who broke the NFL record in Td's the year after he left the Raiders. I'd rather take a stand against Walker than taking a risk on him.52 receptions for 624 yards and 4 td's

I could see those numbers, but I think I'd bump up the TDs to about 6 or so...

 

[5-ish Finkle]

5 catches, 20 yards, -1 TD. Walker hates him some young'un QB. Thank me next year./HK

Would you accept if we just thank you in advance now? Cuz I may forget a whole year from now.(Though, you could just remind us or post some of the PMs I'm sure you'll get expressing gratitude.)Something to note before you make your decision: You could start "virtual e-peen stroking" right now too, if you're willing to take the preemptive kudos. Everyone wins!Thanks for taking my call.

 

[gopherII]

Walker is talented, but has way too much baggage headed into the season for me to draft him higher than a WR3. Besides his off-field stupidity, Oakland will predominately be a running team again in 08 with an inexperienced QB. I see him putting up comparable numbers to Porter last year in this offense - 44/705/6 - which makes for a decent but not great WR3.

 

[Bears_Man2]

Nothing to like about Javon for 2008 (possibly beyond). May draft as a bye week fill-in (but imagine he'll be taken before I give the thought of taking him).

48 600 4 TD (I wouldn't be shocked at all if we don't hear too much about Javon after 2008 -- other than being another bad Raider signing). I'm giving him the ceiling of what I think he'll do this year.

 

[GoRaiders]

Yikes, this is a tough projection, even for a Raider fan. One thing I am seeing in most projections is Walker's YPR is quite low. I would project this at 15-16 yards rather than the 12-13 I am seeing. Curry should be in the lows teens, but I would not expect both WRs to have such a low avg per grab. Those low YPR's are putting us back in the Bed & Breakfast offense era!

55 - 850 - 6

Which would put him slightly above his ADP. I see 2 choices here:

#1 - Javon will put his party days behind him and act like someone that was just handed $50 mil and put up numbers around a low 20's WR.

#2 - Javon will get injured on the field or while being robbed and put up Mike Williams type #'s.

If Walker plays a full season I don't see how he can't put up numbers to match his ADP, with a couple more grabs and end zone looks slots him as a nice WR2. If you are in camp #2, you should be slobbering over Ron Curry and his low ADP.

 

[rzrback77]

Javon Walker is the classic risk/reward WR for 08. The reward side shows that he has finished top ten twice in the past four season and has a current ADP of WR 34 and 87 overall. If you take WRs early, he could be your 4th WR taken as late as the 7th or 8th round (12 team leagues). If he plays, the chances are very good that he'll smoke his ADP.

The risk is that he doesn't play or that his QB Russell is terrible.

I'll go with the upside on Javon Walker and say he rewards his owners very nicely in 08. His ypc will be rather nice as he'll have several long TD receptions.

Javon Walker 130 targets 75 receptions 57.7% for 1150 yards 15.3 ypc and 7 TDs with 50 rush yds

 

[AnonymousBob]

Javon Walker is the classic risk/reward WR for 08. The reward side shows that he has finished top ten twice in the past four season and has a current ADP of WR 34 and 87 overall. If you take WRs early, he could be your 4th WR taken as late as the 7th or 8th round (12 team leagues). If he plays, the chances are very good that he'll smoke his ADP.The risk is that he doesn't play or that his QB Russell is terrible.I'll go with the upside on Javon Walker and say he rewards his owners very nicely in 08. His ypc will be rather nice as he'll have several long TD receptions.Javon Walker 130 targets 75 receptions 57.7% for 1150 yards 15.3 ypc and 7 TDs with 50 rush yds

It's nice to know I'm not the only crazy one. Your numbers are nearly identical to mine. Join the Javon bandwagon. It's still fairly empty.

 

[thecardiackid]

Javon Walker is the classic risk/reward WR for 08. The reward side shows that he has finished top ten twice in the past four season and has a current ADP of WR 34 and 87 overall. If you take WRs early, he could be your 4th WR taken as late as the 7th or 8th round (12 team leagues). If he plays, the chances are very good that he'll smoke his ADP.The risk is that he doesn't play or that his QB Russell is terrible.I'll go with the upside on Javon Walker and say he rewards his owners very nicely in 08. His ypc will be rather nice as he'll have several long TD receptions.Javon Walker 130 targets 75 receptions 57.7% for 1150 yards 15.3 ypc and 7 TDs with 50 rush yds

It's nice to know I'm not the only crazy one. Your numbers are nearly identical to mine. Join the Javon bandwagon. It's still fairly empty.

:in: here's hoping the vegas trip knocked some sense into him and he gets it together.

 

[Jon_Moore]

He's one of the most athletic receivers in the league, and started off as a top fantasy receiver last year before the knee injury.

But...

A season ending ACL injury--then 2 years later more knee problems cause him to miss significant time, and he wasn't the same when he came back. You're crazy if you're not weary of the knees.

Then consider the Raiders. Russell has a cannon, and Walker is the best guy to go get the deep balls for them...but...

They have a stiff defense, and a very strong running game that just got stronger a la Darren McFadden. They won't throw it a ton--that and the offense will flat out suck if Russell isn't good from the outset.

Walker reportedly won't be ready for camp, and may not be ready for the opener. It's impossible to predict his health for the coming season right now, thought he was reportedly in bad shape even before this happened.

Right now, just because we don't know, I'd avoid him until about the 7th or 8th rounds.

53 Receptions

721 Yards

7 TDs

 

[dmac37]

Walker reportedly won't be ready for camp, and may not be ready for the opener.

 

[massraider]

Walker reportedly won't be ready for camp, and may not be ready for the opener.

I've not read this anywhere.

 

[massraider]

Thursday, July 24, 2008

Kiffin meets the press

Raiders coach Lane Kiffin met with reporters for the first time at camp Thursday afternoon. Here are some nuggets, with a blog follow-up coming after the 3-5 p.m. practice.

LaMont Jordan: Kiffin said the situation is being handled by Raiders owner Al Davis and agent Alvin Keels. Jordan is the only player on the 80-man roster who is not at camp -- because the team told him to stay away -- and he is not being fined.



Javon Walker: The wide receiver is good to go one month after being robbed and assaulted in Las Vegas. He will, however, be limited to one practice a day when there are two-a-days.

Other injury updates: Everyone passed the conditioning test Wednesday morning, which means everyone is cleared to practice.

Like Walker, others returning from injury will be held to one practice a day: receiver Ronald Curry, defensive tackle Ronald Curry, center Jake Grove and safety Jarrod Cooper -- all players returning from surgery.

Camp schedule: Players will practice in pads today, with the game-situation work coming during tomorrow's two-a-day. Training camp will go three weeks and break before the trip to Tennessee.

The Raiders also finalized a shared practice with the 49ers, set for Monday, Aug. 4 in Napa. The teams will practice twice that day, which comes the week of their Friday exhibition opener at The Coliseum.

Posted By: David White (Email) | Jul 24 at 12:39 PM

 

[AnonymousBob]

There's still room. Join the Javon Bandwagon!!

 

[Interseptopus]

I've been high on Javon Walker since he was drafted into the league, so I've been very disappointed in his production rollercoaster

With GB he always had talent. I think his head got in the way as he was sort of high on himself. In Denver he again showed what kind of talent he had. One thing that people tend to mistake is that he had an injury last season to his knee, when in fact he had issues with his ACL injury/reconstruction last season, he did NOT re-injure his knee. He had the knee scoped last offseason and had troubles with it all season. It has been reported that he had pain with the knee the entire 2006 season with Denver, which is why he opted to have the minor surgery to clean it up in the offseason leading up to 2007. Still, he had trouble with it.

Given his troubles with his reconstructed knee, and consistantly disappointing fantasy production, it's hard to be optimistic about Walker this season. He is again on a new team. He signed a contract for more than he was worth- but that's what a bad team like OAK needs to do to get FA to come their way- overpay and hope they pan out. OAK is not a free agent's dream destination, so they have to ante up in order to get talent.

There is no doubt that Walker has talent. The question remains will he get off himself and just grow up and play, or will he always let down fantasy owners? Given his most recent party antics in Las Vegas, resulting in him being mugged and left unconscious, it's hard to say this will be the year. However, many people wrote off Randy Moss leaving OAK saying he'd never mature, that he was always about himself and could never get over that and just play. Javon Walker turns 30 this year. For his sake I hope he can realize that there's more to life than spraying bottles champagne at parties and living a life similar to Pacman Jones. He is a victim of himself, and he needs to get past himself first before he can become a great NFL WR.

Personally, I think he's about a year or two away from being good. Put him on a team with a solid QB and I think he puts up good numbers to warrant that large contract. However, I don't think Russell is a proven QB. He has not done much to ease my concerns about Walker's ability to put up great numbers this season. Walker is the #1 WR in that offense, and he represents great value late in your draft, but there is so much risk I'm not sure it outweighs the reward.

So to summarize- Walker is the type of player that has the ability to win you a championship. He's someone you can grab late as your WR2 or WR3 and can perform like a WR1, or he can perform like a WR3/4. He's a very risky pick, but with plenty of upside. A lot of his success depends on the ability of Russell to be a good NFL QB. Russell has to do better than a 55.9 QB rating, 2 TD and 4 INT that he posted last year in 4 games. Walker needs to stay healthy and to take care of his knee. Before he sat out all those games last year, he posted some very stellar numbers, but by the time he returned Marhsall had already developed a chemistry with Culter; there was no more room for Walker. Assuming an entire season of being healthy, I find there to be no reason for Walker to not have a good enough season to warrant a roster spot and potential spot start during a bye week. He's one of those guys people will stay away from, who you can get for cheap and very late, but can pay off big time down the stretch. Bottom line- draft at your own risk.

70 Receptions, 900 yards, 8 TDs

 

[massraider]

Walker healed, not ready to talk

Receiver practices; no signs of trauma to face

By PHIL BARBER

THE PRESS DEMOCRAT

Published: Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 4:30 a.m.

Last Modified: Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 11:40 p.m.

NAPA — The question regarding Javon Walker that most immediately concerns his team was answered Thursday. Walker fully participated in the Raiders’ Thursday afternoon practice, showing little wear and tear either from the knee injury that stole most of his 2007 season or the alleged assailants who stole his jewelry in Las Vegas in June.

The initial police report had Walker’s right orbital bone — the circular bone around the eye — and jawbone shattered in a pre-dawn assault. But he looked unscathed as he spoke to reporters after practice, just as he looked fit on the field.

“Yeah, I’m fine,” Walker said. “Feeling good. Just ready to go out and play.”

As for the other 300 or so questions about his Vegas escapade? The world will have to wait for answers.

“I ain’t talking about that,” Walker said. “It’s too soon for that.”

The wide receiver has been in the news before, and not always for his occasionally brilliant on-field exploits. He engaged in a lengthy holdout in Green Bay before he was traded to Denver, and his close friend Darrent Williams, a Broncos cornerback, died in his arms after a hail of bullets hit their limousine in Denver. After he was found unconscious on a Las Vegas side street June 16, Walker was tossed into a whirlpool of Internet gossip.

He insists now that he didn’t pay attention to any of it.

“I ain’t even heard it,” he said. “Ya’ll telling me something new for the first time. To tell you the truth, I haven’t really seen nothing about it. I just let everybody go into speculations of what they heard and what they think they know. ... When I get ready to come out and tell what really happened, I’ll clear it up then.”

In the meantime, coach Lane Kiffin sounded ready to forgive Walker for any lapses in judgment.

“We all make mistakes as far as situations we put ourselves in, and I know Javon is going to be more safe as far as who he’s around,” Kiffin said. “Javon’s a really nice guy that is very (trusting) — to a fault sometimes — and has had a lot of people around him, maybe with not the proper security around him that you should have, especially that it’s so well known how much money he makes. So it was a learning experience for him.”

Kiffin isn’t alone in his praise of Walker’s character. The sentiments were echoed Thursday — by Javon Walker.

“If people want a real (idea) of me, just tell them to go look at my record,” the receiver said. “I don’t have a record. I don’t have a rap sheet. You don’t hear about Javon Walker getting arrested. People’s light of me is like, ‘Hmm, he just leaves different teams because he’s not happy.’ Well, like any other American, that’s my right if I don’t like a job. But outside the field, I mean, you talk to people anywhere around this country, they say I’m the nicest person off the field.”



Another point on which Kiffin and Walker agree is that the player has lost weight since off-field practices ended. The coach had hinted at Walker being out of shape. Thursday, Kiffin said the receiver has lost about eight pounds since then; Walker said it’s more like 15. Just to be safe, though, he will not practice twice in any one day during camp. With two knee injuries in his past and $16 million in guaranteed money in the bank, he’s a fragile but important part of the Raiders’ offense.

“We’re just happy that in the end he was able to work through it, play again, and that he’s safe, and he needs to have a really big year,” Kiffin said

 

[shuffm]

What did Cutler have to do with Walker's performance last year? He's the same QB who helped make Brandon Marshall a top 10 WR last year.

57 rec, 749 yds, 5 TDs

Here is what I posted in Walker's spotlight before last season, when Walker was a consensus top 15, borderline Top 10 ADP WR:

Javon will be the single biggest disappointment for FFers in 2007:

54 recepts 711 yards 4 TD's

Actual:8 Games: 26 catches for 287 yards and 0 TD's

I'm still shocked that nobody else saw that coming with Cutler at QB because it was so obvious, but I do appreciate all the PM's thanking me for helping show people the light on Walker and saving their FF seasons. You guys are all welcome and I was glad to help.

Anyway, now he is in Oakland, with an inexperienced QB, an owner who is losing it, and a coach who was told to resign in the offseason but would not....add in all the personal garbage Walker has heaped on himself with his Vegas excursion and we have the makings for a fine season.

47 recepts 611 yards 2 TD's

 

[ichris]

Anyone grabbing Curry to leverage Walker's risk?

 

[Tatonka]

so how do people feel about him now that he has played a preseason game?

 

[Jello_Biafra]

so how do people feel about him now that he has played a preseason game?

I'd be curious to know this myself. He's available in a league that has small rosters. I vowed to avoid him at all costs this year, but dropping a semi-scrub for an NFL team's starting WR is tempting. Not too tempting for me to do it yet, though.

 

[Sweet Love]

Curry went before him in all of my drafts...I have to say I was pretty surprised. Curry offers more consistency while I think Walker offers more upside.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I started an official Buy Low thread for Javon Walker a few months ago...I still think he's worth a gamble. He's shown more than Curry ever has and he's also shown he's capable of returning from injury to perform at an elite level. He could certainly flop but for the price you can get him vs. his upside he's easily worth the gamble. Take him!!

 

[Otis]

How are people NOT taking Javon Walker? At the price you can get him, you're unlikely to find anyone with his upside. He had 89-1384 and 12 TDs in 2004, so he's obviously got the ability. I'm all over him as a buy low flyer.

 

[Jello_Biafra]

How are people NOT taking Javon Walker? At the price you can get him, you're unlikely to find anyone with his upside. He had 89-1384 and 12 TDs in 2004, so he's obviously got the ability. I'm all over him as a buy low flyer.

I grabbed him, figuring the player I cut will still be available if Walker flops. There's a lot of talent available in leagues with small rosters.

 

[Rogi]

Sounds like Walker might see limited playing time this week.

 

[H.K.]

What did Cutler have to do with Walker's performance last year? He's the same QB who helped make Brandon Marshall a top 10 WR last year.

57 rec, 749 yds, 5 TDs

Here is what I posted in Walker's spotlight before last season, when Walker was a consensus top 15, borderline Top 10 ADP WR:

Javon will be the single biggest disappointment for FFers in 2007:

54 recepts 711 yards 4 TD's

Actual:8 Games: 26 catches for 287 yards and 0 TD's

I'm still shocked that nobody else saw that coming with Cutler at QB because it was so obvious, but I do appreciate all the PM's thanking me for helping show people the light on Walker and saving their FF seasons. You guys are all welcome and I was glad to help.

Anyway, now he is in Oakland, with an inexperienced QB, an owner who is losing it, and a coach who was told to resign in the offseason but would not....add in all the personal garbage Walker has heaped on himself with his Vegas excursion and we have the makings for a fine season.

47 recepts 611 yards 2 TD's

To answer your question, my exact quote from the 2007 spotlight. link

H.K. May 21 2007, 09:52 PM

Walker saw his FF PPG plummet by 33% with Cutler at QB in PPR formats.

With Plummer he averaged 4.25 receptions 71.2 yards receiving 0.5 TD per game (along with 120 yard rush & 1 TD)

But with Cutler at QB he dropped to 3.6 receptions 46 yards receiving and 0.4 TD catches per game (only 3 yards rushing)