Player Spotlight: Vince Young (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

2008 Player Spotlight Series

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Thread Topic: Vince Young, QB, Tennessee Titans

Player Page Link: Vince Young Player Page

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[Two Deep]

2600 yards 12 tds 18 ints 4 rushing TDS

 

[The Man with the Plan]

His passing numbers sucked last season but the rushing numbers weren't much better either. He was hurt for most of the season. As is the case with most running quarterbacks if he can put up decent passing numbers with high rushing numbers he could be a top fantasy qb. The lack of running and the lack of offensive weaponry are a problem however.

He seems to be getting drafted pretty late this season. If he can play like he did his rookie season he should be a decent quarterback. Anything after that is a bonus.

 

[FUBAR]

VY is a polarizing player. Some love him for what he did in college and his pure talent, others think he's the biggest bust since Akili Smith. I'm a fan, but more for real football than fantasy, he's simply one of the most exciting players to watch even if you don't have a vested interest - maybe even more exciting, as interceptions can be exciting plays.

There are reasons to be optimistic this year

1. Heimerdinger - expect a continued emphasis on the run, but more freedom for VY to be VY.

2. Chris Johnson - sure, the Titans didn't take a WR high, nor did they sign a WR; they still got what could easily be the best asset in the draft for VY.

3. Alge Crumpler - better than Troupe (what happened there?) and Scaife is still around, a pretty good TE combo.

4. More experience - he seemed to make every mistake he could last year, thought too much and forgot to play for the love of the game, I think he comes back from that.

25 passes per game, I suspect his % remains about the same at 62%, 6.7 y/a, 1 TD per game, along with .8 INT - overall improvement from last year, but nothing spectacular:

186 / 300, 2010 yards, 16 TD, 13 INT

I won't expect a big leap in his success running the ball:

90 / 450 / 4

Overall, a solid QB, but not one I'd want to lean on as my starter if I can help it.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Young was downright pathetic last year. He ranked 19th, but that's only because he played most of the season. Guys like Chad Pennington, Kyle Boller, Damon Huard, Matt Schaub and Cleo Lemon would have probably beaten Young if they started most of the season. To put the point more succinctly, the Titans team QB ranked in the bottom five of all team QBs last year in fantasy points. In 2006, the Ten TM QB ranked 17th.

I like Henry and Crumpler. I think those are pretty good additions for a team in desperate need of weapons. But what concerns me most about Young is his dip in rushing last year. He averaged just 4.2 YPC and had only 3 TDs. He scored 40 less rushing FP in the same number of games than he did in '06. There's a very real cap on his ceiling as a fantasy passer, so if he doesn't rush for 500 yards and 5 TDs, he's a QB3 at best in standard leagues.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

2680 13 16

88 440 3

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Young was downright pathetic last year. He ranked 19th, but that's only because he played most of the season. Guys like Chad Pennington, Kyle Boller, Damon Huard, Matt Schaub and Cleo Lemon would have probably beaten Young if they started most of the season. To put the point more succinctly, the Titans team QB ranked in the bottom five of all team QBs last year in fantasy points. In 2006, the Ten TM QB ranked 17th.

I like Henry and Crumpler. I think those are pretty good additions for a team in desperate need of weapons. But what concerns me most about Young is his dip in rushing last year. He averaged just 4.2 YPC and had only 3 TDs. He scored 40 less rushing FP in the same number of games than he did in '06. There's a very real cap on his ceiling as a fantasy passer, so if he doesn't rush for 500 yards and 5 TDs, he's a QB3 at best in standard leagues.

All true but are you completely closing the door on him? This is just his 3rd year coming up, some QB's don't even get a chance to play until right around now. He did have a poor year last year but he also showed us all a glimpse of what he's capable of doing his rookie season. Vince Young is growing up and will only get better. I'm not going to predict this guy will ever be a 4000 yard passer, because that's not his strength and it never was. However, the guy is a good football player and will perform better than last season because he's better than what we saw.3000 yards passing, 14 td's and 14 int's with 450 yards rushing and 4 td's.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Young was downright pathetic last year. He ranked 19th, but that's only because he played most of the season. Guys like Chad Pennington, Kyle Boller, Damon Huard, Matt Schaub and Cleo Lemon would have probably beaten Young if they started most of the season. To put the point more succinctly, the Titans team QB ranked in the bottom five of all team QBs last year in fantasy points. In 2006, the Ten TM QB ranked 17th.

I like Henry and Crumpler. I think those are pretty good additions for a team in desperate need of weapons. But what concerns me most about Young is his dip in rushing last year. He averaged just 4.2 YPC and had only 3 TDs. He scored 40 less rushing FP in the same number of games than he did in '06. There's a very real cap on his ceiling as a fantasy passer, so if he doesn't rush for 500 yards and 5 TDs, he's a QB3 at best in standard leagues.

All true but are you completely closing the door on him? This is just his 3rd year coming up, some QB's don't even get a chance to play until right around now. He did have a poor year last year but he also showed us all a glimpse of what he's capable of doing his rookie season. Vince Young is growing up and will only get better. I'm not going to predict this guy will ever be a 4000 yard passer, because that's not his strength and it never was. However, the guy is a good football player and will perform better than last season because he's better than what we saw.3000 yards passing, 14 td's and 14 int's with 450 yards rushing and 4 td's.

If he puts up those numbers, he's not even a top 20 QB, IMO. The majority of the 32 starting QBs would put up 261 FPs in a 16 game season.

 

[Hawk]

If he had put up those numbers last year, he'd have been QB 10 in my league. I actually project him a little higher in the rushing department. He put up about 400 yards rushing and 3 TD's despite a nagging leg injury that clearly hampered his ability to run like he normally can. Better OC, better health, better weapons. His weapons are not a lot better, but all his top targets are returning (as opposed to last season when his top two targets from 2006 left in free agency), plus they added Crumpler (could be a nice fit), McCareins (familiar with Dinger's system), and C.Johnson (speed) who may catch a lot of balls in a Reggie Bush type role.

I predict 2950 yards passing, 17 TD's, 15 INT's, 500 yards rushing, 6 TD's. Enough to possibly finish in the bottom of the top ten.

 

[vandyt]

Young was downright pathetic last year. He ranked 19th, but that's only because he played most of the season. Guys like Chad Pennington, Kyle Boller, Damon Huard, Matt Schaub and Cleo Lemon would have probably beaten Young if they started most of the season. To put the point more succinctly, the Titans team QB ranked in the bottom five of all team QBs last year in fantasy points. In 2006, the Ten TM QB ranked 17th.

I like Henry and Crumpler. I think those are pretty good additions for a team in desperate need of weapons. But what concerns me most about Young is his dip in rushing last year. He averaged just 4.2 YPC and had only 3 TDs. He scored 40 less rushing FP in the same number of games than he did in '06. There's a very real cap on his ceiling as a fantasy passer, so if he doesn't rush for 500 yards and 5 TDs, he's a QB3 at best in standard leagues.

All true but are you completely closing the door on him? This is just his 3rd year coming up, some QB's don't even get a chance to play until right around now. He did have a poor year last year but he also showed us all a glimpse of what he's capable of doing his rookie season. Vince Young is growing up and will only get better. I'm not going to predict this guy will ever be a 4000 yard passer, because that's not his strength and it never was. However, the guy is a good football player and will perform better than last season because he's better than what we saw.3000 yards passing, 14 td's and 14 int's with 450 yards rushing and 4 td's.

If he puts up those numbers, he's not even a top 20 QB, IMO. The majority of the 32 starting QBs would put up 261 FPs in a 16 game season.

Depends on the scoring system...In a 1/10, 6, 1/20, 3 league, thats the equivalent of 3900 yards and 22 TDs. That would be a pretty amazing year for QBs if that wasn't top 20.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Young was downright pathetic last year. He ranked 19th, but that's only because he played most of the season. Guys like Chad Pennington, Kyle Boller, Damon Huard, Matt Schaub and Cleo Lemon would have probably beaten Young if they started most of the season. To put the point more succinctly, the Titans team QB ranked in the bottom five of all team QBs last year in fantasy points. In 2006, the Ten TM QB ranked 17th.

I like Henry and Crumpler. I think those are pretty good additions for a team in desperate need of weapons. But what concerns me most about Young is his dip in rushing last year. He averaged just 4.2 YPC and had only 3 TDs. He scored 40 less rushing FP in the same number of games than he did in '06. There's a very real cap on his ceiling as a fantasy passer, so if he doesn't rush for 500 yards and 5 TDs, he's a QB3 at best in standard leagues.

All true but are you completely closing the door on him? This is just his 3rd year coming up, some QB's don't even get a chance to play until right around now. He did have a poor year last year but he also showed us all a glimpse of what he's capable of doing his rookie season. Vince Young is growing up and will only get better. I'm not going to predict this guy will ever be a 4000 yard passer, because that's not his strength and it never was. However, the guy is a good football player and will perform better than last season because he's better than what we saw.3000 yards passing, 14 td's and 14 int's with 450 yards rushing and 4 td's.

If he puts up those numbers, he's not even a top 20 QB, IMO. The majority of the 32 starting QBs would put up 261 FPs in a 16 game season.

Depends on the scoring system...In a 1/10, 6, 1/20, 3 league, thats the equivalent of 3900 yards and 22 TDs. That would be a pretty amazing year for QBs if that wasn't top 20.

In a league taht gives 3 points for TDs (I gave 5 in my example, since that's the official scoring system we use), Young's value obviously increases. It still won't increase that much, though, although it probably slips him in to the top 20.(I say top 20 assuming all other starting QBs play 16 games. You're not comparing apples to apples if you give Young 16 games but assume only 1/4 of the league's starting Qbs play 16 games.)

 

[Chase Stuart]

If he had put up those numbers last year, he'd have been QB 10 in my league. I actually project him a little higher in the rushing department. He put up about 400 yards rushing and 3 TD's despite a nagging leg injury that clearly hampered his ability to run like he normally can. Better OC, better health, better weapons. His weapons are not a lot better, but all his top targets are returning (as opposed to last season when his top two targets from 2006 left in free agency), plus they added Crumpler (could be a nice fit), McCareins (familiar with Dinger's system), and C.Johnson (speed) who may catch a lot of balls in a Reggie Bush type role. I predict 2950 yards passing, 17 TD's, 15 INT's, 500 yards rushing, 6 TD's. Enough to possibly finish in the bottom of the top ten.

If Young stays healthy and 75% of the QBs int he league do not, then yes, Young's projected stats will probably put him in the bottom fo the top ten.That's not a good argument for ranking Young anywhere near the top ten, though.

 

[rzrback77]

Vince Young has progressed in his passing stats in his two years in the league. He completed only 51.5% in his rookie campaign for 2199 yards and 12 TDs with 13 ints. Last year, he completed 62.3% of his passes for 2546 yards, but dipped down to 9 TDs and had 17 ints. His rushing was too high as a rookie at 552 yards and 7 TDs and fell off to 395 yards and 3 TDs last year.

I am optimistic for improved numbers in 08 primarily due to OC Humdinger and also for the addition of receiving options at TE and RB. I think that Crumpler and rookie Chris Johnson will both be excellent receivers for the Titans and Vince Young. I still look for the Titans to pound the running game, but also to be a little more effective with the passing. He will be a decent option way down at an ADP of QB17 and 111 overall.

Vince Young 270 completions on 420 attempts 64.3% for 2900 yards 6.9 ypa and 15 TDs with 12 ints and add 400 yards rushing and 4 TDs

 

[MCguidance]

Two words: Never again.

I predict 2700, 15 TDs, 12 INTs; 600 rush 4 TDs.

 

[Bri]

If he had put up those numbers last year, he'd have been QB 10 in my league. I actually project him a little higher in the rushing department. He put up about 400 yards rushing and 3 TD's despite a nagging leg injury that clearly hampered his ability to run like he normally can. Better OC, better health, better weapons. His weapons are not a lot better, but all his top targets are returning (as opposed to last season when his top two targets from 2006 left in free agency), plus they added Crumpler (could be a nice fit), McCareins (familiar with Dinger's system), and C.Johnson (speed) who may catch a lot of balls in a Reggie Bush type role. I predict 2950 yards passing, 17 TD's, 15 INT's, 500 yards rushing, 6 TD's. Enough to possibly finish in the bottom of the top ten.

If Young stays healthy and 75% of the QBs int he league do not, then yes, Young's projected stats will probably put him in the bottom fo the top ten.That's not a good argument for ranking Young anywhere near the top ten, though.

the passing stats he posted doesn't seem too too high given that he seems to obviously be learning and developping. Top ten does sound too high though. Rushing yards making him crack your top ten, Hawk?

 

[Andy Herron]

It simply amazes me that some continue to hold out hope that someday the light will come on for Vince Young and he'll figure it out and turn everything on or around. For one, I'm not even sure he "has" a light. For another, he's never going to be a traditional passer in this league because he's not that good. And people wonder why the Titans don't go out and spend money or high draft picks for WRs. A waste of cap money, that's why. The Titans are a running team because they don't have a QB to build a passing game around. How much more evident can it be? His rushing numbers will never be much more than he's produced in the past. NFL defenses have learned his tendencies. There are no secrets he brings to the field, he's very limited and everybody in the NFL knows it. So he scored 3 rushing TDs last year. Well, so did Roethlisberger. Big deal.

It's very clear to me where to rank Vince Young, which is not at all. I'll never draft him, so I simply don't list him on my QB rankings. (12 team redraft league) I just let somebody else waste a roster spot on him, and they still rarely if ever start him. He usually ends up on the waiver wire by mid-season, which takes me back to that "wasted draft pick."

He has yet to demonstrate any value whatsoever. 2546 yrds/9 TDs/17 Ints does not cut it in a passing league that is today's NFL.

That's the reality of Vince Young. There will always be those who want to turn a blind eye to that fact, and that's what amazes me.

 

[Jon_Moore]

The Titans are a run 1st 2nd and 3rd offense, so Vince will never have great passing numbers. To date, he hasn't been a great fantasy quarterback, but he showed serious improvement in the NFL last season, raising his QB rating from 66.7 to 77.1 and his completion % from 51.5 to 62.3. If he continues to improve he should be a decent fantasy option this year. They still didn't get him any wide receivers, but that's not the offense they want to run anyways. The titans want to pound the ball and have Young dump it off short to the backs or tight ends, so they went out and got the FAST Chris Johnson and Alge Crumpler--both guys should be instant improvements. Fisher has said that he wants Young to run when the opportunity is there, and I believe you'll see more runs than before from Vince.

242/384

2612 Yards

18 Touchdowns

15 Ints

128 Rushes

704 Yards

7 Tds

 

[Hawk]

I'm not saying draft him as a top 10 QB, I'm just saying that if he puts up the stats I projected, he'll finish a top 10 QB in my league's scoring system (4 pts for passing TD's, 6 pts for rushing TD's, 1 pt for 10 yards rushing, 1 pt for 25 yards passing). In that system, his likely rushing output is a sufficient advantage over pure passers to make up for Vince's lower passing numbers.

As for Andy Herron's post, what complete horsecrap. Not even draftable? Whatever. Absent a season-ending injury, Vince is absolutely a top 24 QB which obviously makes him draftable in a 12 team league. And to act like he has never produced at that level is ridiculous as well. Over the last ten games of his rookie season, he produced at a top 5 QB level. Last year he regressed in his TD's and his rushing numbers were down because he played much of the year with a hamstring injury (obviously hard for a guy that relies on his legs as much as Vince does). He may have been on the waiver wire last year as a result, but judging by his rookie year, he's clearly capable of posting decent fantasy numbers so your take seems more angry than realistic.

 

[DawnBTVS]

I'm really mixed on Young this year although he will have Crumpler as another receiving threat, Johnson also adds to the RB depth and allows for the team to remain focused on the run. Overall, I see a similar season to his rookie year with slightly boosted numbers but he won't quite be the star passer that he needs to be just yet.

15 games - 239/390 (61.28%) with 14 TD vs. 15 INT. 105 carries for 540 yards (4.80) and 6 TD. I can see him running more inside the 10 so that he keeps his passing TD down somewhat but boosts his rushing TD.

That's good for 26 attempts and 7 carries per game.

 

[FUBAR]

It simply amazes me that some continue to hold out hope that someday the light will come on for Vince Young and he'll figure it out and turn everything on or around. For one, I'm not even sure he "has" a light. For another, he's never going to be a traditional passer in this league because he's not that good. And people wonder why the Titans don't go out and spend money or high draft picks for WRs. A waste of cap money, that's why. The Titans are a running team because they don't have a QB to build a passing game around. How much more evident can it be? His rushing numbers will never be much more than he's produced in the past. NFL defenses have learned his tendencies. There are no secrets he brings to the field, he's very limited and everybody in the NFL knows it. So he scored 3 rushing TDs last year. Well, so did Roethlisberger. Big deal.

It's very clear to me where to rank Vince Young, which is not at all. I'll never draft him, so I simply don't list him on my QB rankings. (12 team redraft league) I just let somebody else waste a roster spot on him, and they still rarely if ever start him. He usually ends up on the waiver wire by mid-season, which takes me back to that "wasted draft pick."

He has yet to demonstrate any value whatsoever. 2546 yrds/9 TDs/17 Ints does not cut it in a passing league that is today's NFL.

That's the reality of Vince Young. There will always be those who want to turn a blind eye to that fact, and that's what amazes me.

Awesome. How many things can we count wrong or just irrelevant with this post?1. he's never going to be a traditional passer in this league because he's not that good. - he'll never be a traditional passer, but so what? He's good at what he does.

2. The Titans are a running team because they don't have a QB to build a passing game around. - No, they're a running team because that's Fisher's game.

3. He usually ends up on the waiver wire by mid-season, which takes me back to that "wasted draft pick." he's been in the NFL two years now, not enough to make a statement about "usually".

4. He has yet to demonstrate any value whatsoever. - I suppose pro bowls don't count?

I'll grant you that VY shouldn't be starting in 12 team leagues, but if I want a backup, I'll take him - or take him off waivers, which he apparently USUALLY is on by mid-season.

 

[Andy Herron]

I'm not saying draft him as a top 10 QB, I'm just saying that if he puts up the stats I projected, he'll finish a top 10 QB in my league's scoring system (4 pts for passing TD's, 6 pts for rushing TD's, 1 pt for 10 yards rushing, 1 pt for 25 yards passing). In that system, his likely rushing output is a sufficient advantage over pure passers to make up for Vince's lower passing numbers.

This is my very point right here. Everybody wants to go by "if he puts up the stats I project" than face the reality of it all.If, if ,if...

 

[Hawk]

Look Andy, you want to claim Vince sucks, will never be good, is "usually" on the waiver wire and has never produced, but you're full of crap. He's been in the NFL two years. In his rookie season, he finished in the top 10 in QB scoring in my league (#9 to be exact, just ahead of Brett Favre). Last year he didn't do as well.

Bottom line is you're spouting off with a lot of animosity, but you don't have your information right. The reason most magazines were ranking Vince in the top 10 QB's going into last season is that he was a top 10 fantasy QB in 2006 as a ####### rookie who only started 13 games. Last year he played hurt and he regressed in his decision making and he was not a good fantasy QB.

This year, he could build on 2006, or crater like last year. You obviously think he'll crater, but to act like there's no possibility of success for him is ridiculous, and you just conveniently ignore the success he had as a rookie. I think he'll put up numbers that will result in him being around QB10 this year. You can disagree, but you can't argue that it's impossible when he already did it once.

 

[Andy Herron]

Look y'all, if you can figure out which week he might throw for more than 200 yards, might throw more touchdowns than interceptions (and fumbles), he's all yours.

Good luck.

 

[Brownsfan07]

2000 yards/ 8 tds/17 picks/500 rush yds/1 td

 

[Andy Herron]

Update on Vince Young from Jim Wyatt of The Tennessean-

The Tennessee Titans have spent a big chunk of time in offseason workouts throwing the deep ball. Last week Vince Young closed a practice by connecting with rookie Lavelle Hawkins on a 50-yarder and has made some other nice deep throws in minicamps, but he has room for improvement. Last year Young's completion percentage jumped nearly 10 points from his rookie season, but he was 8-of-47 (17 percent) on attempts when the ball traveled 21 yards or more in the air. That was down from his rookie season, when he completed 18.9 percent of similar throws. The NFL average last season on passes of 21 yards or more in the air: 28.4 percent.

Coach Jeff Fisher, almost always a run-first proponent, was reluctant to say the deep ball will be a regular part of the offense this fall, however.

-can't say that I blame him.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../806220408/1027

 

[Brewzers]

The responses to VY are always so bi-polar. This is a critical juncture for him, with 28 starts to his credit, he is at the point of he is either going to get it, or he's not as a passer. He needs to get his YPA to 7.0 or better and get the INTs down (17 is way too many). He really made some bad decisions last year, forcing the ball into places it shouldn't be. His (9) 2007 TD passes are an anamoly, if you watched the games or taped them, then you know he 9 had TD passes dropped...not just off the finger tips, flat out dropped.

Its critical that Vince improve his decision making, thats going to make or break the season for him. I think he gets it done:

Passing:

Comp 245

Att 390

Yds 2,800

Td 18

Int 13

Running:

Yds 600

TDs 5

 

[Max Power]

After the Vince Young showing vs. Oak lastnight, I have to take him completly off my draft list.

Granted it was only one pre-season game, but that was just to watch.

He looked rattled almost every passing play, didn't have very good pocket awareness, looked like he couldn't make up his mind where to throw the ball.

 

[-baller]

sux

 

[T Bell]

If he had put up those numbers last year, he'd have been QB 10 in my league. I actually project him a little higher in the rushing department. He put up about 400 yards rushing and 3 TD's despite a nagging leg injury that clearly hampered his ability to run like he normally can. Better OC, better health, better weapons. His weapons are not a lot better, but all his top targets are returning (as opposed to last season when his top two targets from 2006 left in free agency), plus they added Crumpler (could be a nice fit), McCareins (familiar with Dinger's system), and C.Johnson (speed) who may catch a lot of balls in a Reggie Bush type role. I predict 2950 yards passing, 17 TD's, 15 INT's, 500 yards rushing, 6 TD's. Enough to possibly finish in the bottom of the top ten.

If Young stays healthy and 75% of the QBs int he league do not, then yes, Young's projected stats will probably put him in the bottom fo the top ten.That's not a good argument for ranking Young anywhere near the top ten, though.

Especially when QB's have pretty well established that the way to stay healthy over time is to get rid of the ball from the pocket (Brees) rather than by leaving the pocket and scrambling (Vick; McNabb).

 

[travdogg]

After the Vince Young showing vs. Oak lastnight, I have to take him completly off my draft list.Granted it was only one pre-season game, but that was just to watch. He looked rattled almost every passing play, didn't have very good pocket awareness, looked like he couldn't make up his mind where to throw the ball.

Young didn't look great, but Tom Brady wouldn't have looked great the way those WR's played. I counted at least 4 dropped passes just when Young was in there.Hell, anyone who can run a 40 in under 4.6 should probably try out for the Titans WR core it looks to be by far the worst in the league.

 

[-baller]

After the Vince Young showing vs. Oak lastnight, I have to take him completly off my draft list.Granted it was only one pre-season game, but that was just to watch. He looked rattled almost every passing play, didn't have very good pocket awareness, looked like he couldn't make up his mind where to throw the ball.

Young didn't look great, but Tom Brady wouldn't have looked great the way those WR's played. I counted at least 4 dropped passes just when Young was in there.

in '06 brady was throwing to doug gabriel.

 

[Max Power]

After the Vince Young showing vs. Oak lastnight, I have to take him completly off my draft list.Granted it was only one pre-season game, but that was just to watch. He looked rattled almost every passing play, didn't have very good pocket awareness, looked like he couldn't make up his mind where to throw the ball.

Young didn't look great, but Tom Brady wouldn't have looked great the way those WR's played. I counted at least 4 dropped passes just when Young was in there.Hell, anyone who can run a 40 in under 4.6 should probably try out for the Titans WR core it looks to be by far the worst in the league.

As much as id like to blame the WRs, Young looking like crap was all on him. He wasn't stepping into his throws and seemed to just be tossing the ball up at times.Seriously, watching Young lastnight reminded me a lot of watching Rex Grossman.

 

[FavreCo]

In all seriousness, the guy in not an NFL caliber QB. He shows it weekly.

 

[travdogg]

Hopefully for Young he starts running like a young Culpepper again. That's where about 50% of his fantasy value lies. I think he'll get back to that and be a top-15 QB again, but I don't feel sure of that prediction at all.

 

[Monsters of the Midway]

Hell, anyone who can run a 40 in under 4.6 should probably try out for the Titans WR core it looks to be by far the worst in the league.

My Bears are right there too, unfortunately.

 

[Favre 2 Jennings]

After the Vince Young showing vs. Oak lastnight, I have to take him completly off my draft list.

Granted it was only one pre-season game, but that was just to watch.

He looked rattled almost every passing play, didn't have very good pocket awareness, looked like he couldn't make up his mind where to throw the ball.

Agreed. He completely stunk against the Raiders. I am so glad that i could get rid of him this off-season.

 

[Glatty]

2400 pass yds, 15 TDs, 18 INTs, 450 rush yds, 5 rush TDs