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Players you drafted in the 1st 6-8 rounds you might bench Week 1 (1 Viewer)
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Chaka
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'NoCheese said:
If you tell me that Adrian Peterson struggles against the Bears I might put some stock into it as they have faced each other eight times in four seasons. But this? It's three games, for one of them MT was on a different team and wasn't even the starting RB and Chicago and Atlanta haven't played in two seasons. Then there is the question of why spend a 1st or 2nd round pick on a guy that you don't even have faith in for week 1?It's either waaaaaay over analyzing or poor drafting.
steelerfan1
Footballguy
i hear you, but they will be in ny playing a tough jets d where there will be a 9/11 tribute pregame pumping the crowd to an insane level i am sure.you also have t. romo playing his first real game in a long time with an o-line that is a bit in flux.not sure if i will sit him but am looking at options.'Funkley said:I dont get benching your Cowboys week 1 even if it is the Jets.
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Lord Fantasy
Footballguy
I'm a little surprised at all match-up talk given that
1) Teams change so much year to year that it takes a few weeks to know exactly where the good/bad/surprise defenses are
2) The lockout has everyone under-prepared (even the stable teams)
My only expectation this weekend is a Carnival of Surprises. As a result I'm starting based on talent and letting the chips fall where they may.
1) Teams change so much year to year that it takes a few weeks to know exactly where the good/bad/surprise defenses are
2) The lockout has everyone under-prepared (even the stable teams)
My only expectation this weekend is a Carnival of Surprises. As a result I'm starting based on talent and letting the chips fall where they may.
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bulger2holt
Footballguy
I'm benching Romo for Stafford in week 1.
Arnold. S
Footballguy
Starting Beanie Wells over Felix Jones. Thinking about starting Reggie Bush over Jahvid Best also in the same league... 0.5 PPR
Starting Stafford over Matt Ryan in 2 different leagues, might change one just in case.
Lastly, starting Hightower and Ingram over Ryan Matthews, although if draft was held today, Matthews wouldn't go higher than those two.
Starting Stafford over Matt Ryan in 2 different leagues, might change one just in case.
Lastly, starting Hightower and Ingram over Ryan Matthews, although if draft was held today, Matthews wouldn't go higher than those two.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
ver nice post
Well, I'll give you that maybe it's over analyzing. I do my homework typically and did more thinking about it than some. I think it's the right call.We've all heard how it looks like Turner is slowing down. When I'm in good shape to get a win without him and see if he was worth the Round 2 pick then I'll take it. If he is a bust then I guess I'm as incompetent as the other million or so people who drafted him that early. And when I took him I had no way of knowing I'd land Jabobs (after getting Bradshaw) late so that allows me flexiblity I otherwise would not have. It's not overanalyzing it to know that by starting Jacobs I pretty much guarantee that I'll not be zeroed out by my starting running backs since I have Bradshaw as well.'NoCheese said:
It's either waaaaaay over analyzing or poor drafting.
And it's a very good Chicago run defense that has been stopping him. They were one of the top defenses in 2010 against the run (fantasy points allowed). Conversely, Washington was among teams that did poorly against running backs.
Let's revisit next week and see. Maybe you're right.
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Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Benching pistachio almond Ingram for vanilla Fred Jackson.
Dallas Clark sitting out in favor of Speedy Hernandez.
Dallas Clark sitting out in favor of Speedy Hernandez.
bulger2holt
Footballguy
Thinking about doing the same thing. Kendricks is going to be a mismatch nightmare.
bulger2holt
Footballguy
Kendricks will be SB's first option too
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I strongly but respectfully disagree. I hate to break the bubble to most of you but rookie TEs almost across the board do very little their 1st year. I know folks saw Gronk/Hernandez last year and think anything is possible now but Tom Brady is a huge upgrade at the moment over Sam Bradford. It's hard for folks that root for the team to be objective. I like Bradford enough going into year 2 but I would not assume Kendricks is a lock to catch 80-90 balls which is what you all are insinuating when you say option 1 or option A.I would like to see the projections folks have for Bradford, the 3 WR slots, the RBs, then the TEs in a McDaniel offense that usually is not kind to the TEs. I think in dynast there is something more to discuss here but in a redraft format this season, not sure what the big hype is.
bulger2holt
Footballguy
Your first mistake is to compare McDaniel's offense to this current one. Josh hand picked Kendricks to mimick the Pats offense. And yes, Kendricks will be SB's first choice just like Gresham was his first choice at OU.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Why is comparing what a coach has done previously a mistake? Martz for example does not utilize TEs, never does despite having talent at the position. TE class was weak this year too, it's not like this guy was a 1st round pick.
bulger2holt
Footballguy
sorry, you just don't know what you are talking about regarding Kendricks and the Rams.
laughinboy_2000
Footballguy
Sitting Romo @ NYJ
and starting...
Fitzpatrick @ KC
and starting...
Fitzpatrick @ KC
Sitting Romo @ NYJ
and starting...
Fitzpatrick @ KC
I know the feeling. Megatron is my #1 pick and he's ranked below all 3 other WRs I drafted. Tempted, but I'm thinking I still go with the big guy.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Sorry you feel that way. When all else fails, just insult the other person trying to discuss, right?
Chaka
Footballguy
It just sounds odd that you are all but guaranteeing Michael Turner will have a horrendous game based on a sample size of two but you are just about guaranteeing that you will get #1RB production from the Giants based upon your gut feeling.Neither of those are guarantees.Well, I'll give you that maybe it's over analyzing. I do my homework typically and did more thinking about it than some. I think it's the right call.We've all heard how it looks like Turner is slowing down. When I'm in good shape to get a win without him and see if he was worth the Round 2 pick then I'll take it. If he is a bust then I guess I'm as incompetent as the other million or so people who drafted him that early. And when I took him I had no way of knowing I'd land Jabobs (after getting Bradshaw) late so that allows me flexiblity I otherwise would not have. It's not overanalyzing it to know that by starting Jacobs I pretty much guarantee that I'll not be zeroed out by my starting running backs since I have Bradshaw as well.'NoCheese said:
It's either waaaaaay over analyzing or poor drafting.
And it's a very good Chicago run defense that has been stopping him. They were one of the top defenses in 2010 against the run (fantasy points allowed). Conversely, Washington was among teams that did poorly against running backs.
Let's revisit next week and see. Maybe you're right.
There is another sample size you can use to judge Michael Turner. Over the last two seasons he has scored 10 (11 games) & 12 TDs and handled the ball 529 times (26 games). Jacobs has handled the ball 396 times and scored 6 & 9 TDs. They are very comparable in almost every other way.
As far as next week Jacobs may score more points (it really wouldn't be that shocking based on Jacobs past production) but I would still be right and you would be lucky.
BTW The Giants defensive back seven has been torched with injuries (no Osi either), there is no guarantee of a Giants victory on the road in D.C. on national television either. Oh and it's 9/11, the intensity from both teams is going to be off the charts.
bulger2holt
Footballguy
I tried to explain it, but you failed to listen.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'm all ears. Actually I don't even know why I care. It's your team, have fun, good luck.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Because Gronk has to share time? Has not played much of the preseason? Is it just a week 1 thing? St Louis is playing Philly which has a decent secondary. I can understand the move but it certainly is no gimme game for Kendricks IMHO. he is going to have to run block at least some, pass protect at least a little, run the right routes, rookie with a short run up to the regular season. Am I really that off in left field thinking he might not crack the top12 week 1?I don't think I am picking on you guys, but I can tell you are getting really irked by the specific questions. If you have no choices, hey good luck and may the force be with you but I wouldn't think about Kendricks in week 1. I want to see that develop for a bit during the regular season. Does anyone know the record at TE for a rookie Game 1 of their career in the modern era? I would love to know the top3-5 performances of rookie TEs week 1 over the last 25-30 years.
NinerK
Footballguy
Interesting, considering benching Austin for Tampa Mike or Ammendola (PPR League).
No guarantees. I'm playing the odds. We disagree on the odds, which is why we do this, right? No wagering if we all bet on the same horse.You made a fair point about limited Chicago experience, which is why I also considered Turner's performance in 2010 against other top-notch run defenses. In 2010, the only time Atlanta faced them, here's how he did against Pitt, Philly and Balt.It just sounds odd that you are all but guaranteeing Michael Turner will have a horrendous game based on a sample size of two but you are just about guaranteeing that you will get #1RB production from the Giants based upon your gut feeling.Neither of those are guarantees.Well, I'll give you that maybe it's over analyzing. I do my homework typically and did more thinking about it than some. I think it's the right call.We've all heard how it looks like Turner is slowing down. When I'm in good shape to get a win without him and see if he was worth the Round 2 pick then I'll take it. If he is a bust then I guess I'm as incompetent as the other million or so people who drafted him that early. And when I took him I had no way of knowing I'd land Jabobs (after getting Bradshaw) late so that allows me flexiblity I otherwise would not have. It's not overanalyzing it to know that by starting Jacobs I pretty much guarantee that I'll not be zeroed out by my starting running backs since I have Bradshaw as well.'NoCheese said:
It's either waaaaaay over analyzing or poor drafting.
And it's a very good Chicago run defense that has been stopping him. They were one of the top defenses in 2010 against the run (fantasy points allowed). Conversely, Washington was among teams that did poorly against running backs.
Let's revisit next week and see. Maybe you're right.
There is another sample size you can use to judge Michael Turner. Over the last two seasons he has scored 10 (11 games) & 12 TDs and handled the ball 529 times (26 games). Jacobs has handled the ball 396 times and scored 6 & 9 TDs. They are very comparable in almost every other way.
As far as next week Jacobs may score more points (it really wouldn't be that shocking based on Jacobs past production) but I would still be right and you would be lucky.
BTW The Giants defensive back seven has been torched with injuries (no Osi either), there is no guarantee of a Giants victory on the road in D.C. on national television either. Oh and it's 9/11, the intensity from both teams is going to be off the charts.
Note, the limited touches he gets against a good defense (in response to your post). My analysis was not to use soft teams that would affect the stats.
And your analysis does not factor in the observation of many that Turner may be slowing down. If I have a reasonably safe week to kick the tires on my #2 draft pick, I'll take it.
I don't need the Giants win. They'll be in it and I just need the RB duo to do some damage.
And finally. I'm ok with lucky.
1 ATL PIT 19 carries 42 yards 0 td
6 ATL PHI 15 carries 45 yards 0 td
10 ATL BAL 17 carries 39 yards 0 td
p.s., You're arguments are good. I don't much like my #1 RB, can you tell? Probably would do it again based on SOS and offensive line, but not excited about it.
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Instinctive
Footballguy
I have this same decision, and Romo/Bradford in another league. I'm having a hard time not starting Romo. What makes you go with Stafford? Just scared of the Jets?
FF EGGHEAD
Footballguy
Talib is NOT suspended at all unless something happened today which I did not hear. He did go meet the Commish this summer but came back with NO suspension. Talib is a stud and yes I am a Buc homer!
bulger2holt
Footballguy
Yeah. But, I really like Stafford this year too and I have Mega. I want to double dip. I am picturing them hooking up twice.
shadyridr
Footballguy
1 game thing for me. Kendricks looked like the focal pt of the offense in preseason, Eagles were pathetic vs TEs last yr, Namdi & Samuel shutting down the mediocre Ram WRs, STL will have to pass a ton to keep up with the high flying Philly offense. IMO its pretty close to a no-brainer. If you were actual staff you would know that
One more hereManning over Manning
I'm benching Ingram and Mathews as well for Benson. We might think the Saints will run the ball more and that ingram will get half the RB touches, but we know Cincy will run the ball and Benson will get 20-25 touches. For the 1st game, I'd rather go with what we know.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I'm benching Tony Romo vs Jets and starting Freeman vs Detroit.
Jimbo Slice
Footballguy
Struggling with this one myself
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Gutsy.'Hugonel said:'laughinboy_2000 said:Sitting Romo @ NYJ
and starting...
Fitzpatrick @ KC
Doug B
Footballguy
Benching Aaron Rodgers in two leagues since he is going against the Saints. Not really a matchup concern -- my one concession to traditional football fandom is I will usually bench Saints' opponents. Still, I am happy with the replacement options -- Josh Freeman vs Detroit, Eli Manning vs Washington.
Rick James
Footballguy
benching Mark Ingram for Percy Harvin (flex).
doeseatplace
Footballguy
Considering starting Sanchez over Schaub. Traditionally, Colts def strength has been its secondary, but they can be run on, and the Texans may do so all day. Dallas secondary is abysmal...if Jets can protect Sanchez, he could put up some big numbers under the lights
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