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I didn't see him listed, and I suppose he's not necessarily an unknown, but I'll add Michael Robinson to the list. I don't think Gore has more than 2-3 years left after so many injuries/surgeries, and the SF coaching staff was raving about Robinson last season. He didn't make as much of his opportunities as I thought he would, but it was his first season coverting to RB. I think stashing him away on your roster will pay off big time in a couple seasons. He's an exceptional athlete and he can lay some nasty hits when he lowers his shoulder.

 
Mathis is an excellent Kick off returner...ok to average punt returner and a below average WR. His progression as a WR has been stunted. Last year he was injuired all season except for 2 games I beleive. He did not participate in off-season drills because of a motorcyle accident. During his rookie year, he had hamstring trouble, so he rarely practiced at WR so the Texans could take advantage of superior KO return skills. He was far from a polished WR coming out of the draft and really has not put in the time to improve those skills. Right now is a primary KR who is a speed option as a 4th or 5th WR. If your league rewards return yardage he is an option, but has work to do even become a regular 3rd WR.
I don't disagree really.Moulds is a nice plugin at the #2 spot for them. (Assuming complete recovery)Mathis could go deep right now on any NFL CB, he's got "jets". No clue if he'd catch it but it would sure help that O to have a WR stretch a D like that. Despite their plans, Lelie wasn't much more than a deep threat in Denver. I could see Kubiak trying Mathis in such a role.I think he's worth a pickup and just dump him if you see he can't hack it in camp. His burst and speed will demand a try from Kubiak. Coolnerd is probably right, still I could see sticking your toe in the water here
 
Non existent WRs(not due to injury) rarely do well their 2nd year. I think alot of players mentioned are at least a year away. Look at WRs enterring their 3rd year may prove more useful.

 
Hass was signed to meet the NFLEurope requirement. He has to do rrrrrrrrrrreal well in NFLE to truly get a shot in chi-town.

 
I like Brad Smith too but I don't see much room for him to be a significant factor. Cotchery and Coles aren't sitting and Mangini(like the Pats) will use one of 2 TEs like a 3rd WR more often than a 3rd WR. He's got big play written all over him but good luck getting significant time.

I like Stovall because I foolishly think Gruden will finally kick Clayton back in the order for being less productive. Clayton has awesome skills but his fearlessness just invites injury. I could see Stovall having a few nice games in 07 then coming on in 08.

Tampa has a way of drafting these loads of talent "no name" WRs that never pan out though. IIRC Larry Brackins and Paris Warren were recent attempts by them.

The Hawks should sign a QB so they can use Seneca however they want and not be terrified of him getting hurt. He could rack up some wacky FF stats quick and cause FF scoring position probs next year.

 
Mathis is an excellent Kick off returner...ok to average punt returner and a below average WR. His progression as a WR has been stunted. Last year he was injuired all season except for 2 games I beleive. He did not participate in off-season drills because of a motorcyle accident. During his rookie year, he had hamstring trouble, so he rarely practiced at WR so the Texans could take advantage of superior KO return skills. He was far from a polished WR coming out of the draft and really has not put in the time to improve those skills. Right now is a primary KR who is a speed option as a 4th or 5th WR. If your league rewards return yardage he is an option, but has work to do even become a regular 3rd WR.
I don't disagree really.Moulds is a nice plugin at the #2 spot for them. (Assuming complete recovery)Mathis could go deep right now on any NFL CB, he's got "jets". No clue if he'd catch it but it would sure help that O to have a WR stretch a D like that. Despite their plans, Lelie wasn't much more than a deep threat in Denver. I could see Kubiak trying Mathis in such a role.I think he's worth a pickup and just dump him if you see he can't hack it in camp. His burst and speed will demand a try from Kubiak. Coolnerd is probably right, still I could see sticking your toe in the water here
As far as WR go in Houston I think Mathis might get passed up by David Anderson he is as fast as mathis but a better wr. Mathis is a GREAT kr. and yes I said great if you watched him his first year he pissed me off alot by giving us such great field position and even put us in position to win games. (Reggie Bush sweepstakes) But healthy this guy could be one of the best Return guys out there and really give Hester a run for his money. But at Wr I just dont think he's had alot of time to work on the position due to injuries that second year. But hey who knows
 
I like Brad Smith too but I don't see much room for him to be a significant factor. Cotchery and Coles aren't sitting and Mangini(like the Pats) will use one of 2 TEs like a 3rd WR more often than a 3rd WR. He's got big play written all over him but good luck getting significant time.

I like Stovall because I foolishly think Gruden will finally kick Clayton back in the order for being less productive. Clayton has awesome skills but his fearlessness just invites injury. I could see Stovall having a few nice games in 07 then coming on in 08.

Tampa has a way of drafting these loads of talent "no name" WRs that never pan out though. IIRC Larry Brackins and Paris Warren were recent attempts by them.

The Hawks should sign a QB so they can use Seneca however they want and not be terrified of him getting hurt. He could rack up some wacky FF stats quick and cause FF scoring position probs next year.
I think they make a way to play this guy. Justin Mc. is as good as gone. I dont think the Jets have 2 TE's worth putting on the field over Smith. And this year if the Jets are smart they should open that offense up more ala Rams/Pats I think that would benefit Chad with more of a quick strike offense. I have Brad on every dynasty team I have and I watched alot of Big 12 football and this guy is pure lightning.

 
I still believe (and have for a long time) that D.J. Hackett is the best all around talent in Seattle. He makes receptions that Jackson, Branch, Engram, and Burleson can't pull in. He's got the measurables. He's got the hands. He's got the ability to make the spectacular grab.

For the past two seasons I keep shaking my head wondering why he hasn't seen the field more. My suspicion is that he's not a good practice player, and may not be the best student in the classroom. All I've seen is his play on the field, and I continue to be impressed. There has to be a reason that Holmgren doesn't like him as much as his regulars. I just don't know what it is.
I think you will see the increase in playing time at the end of the year will carry over into 2007. I also believe you may see Jackson become trade bait to make room for Hackett. With Jackson's injury problems it would be best to move him while he still has value.
 
Demetrius Williams - WR Ravens.Was a 4th round pick of the Ravens last year. However he generally carried an earlier round grade, but dropped for some reason to the second day.Nice size, nice speed. Had a decent rookie year: 22-396-2 TD. Could supplant Derrick Mason in a year or two.NFL.com summary:

Williams is a talented receiver whose ability to make tough catches and big plays grabs people's attention. He is a smooth route runner who consistently has shown the quickness out of his cuts to get separation from defenders, but lacks the explosiveness and top-end playing speed to run away from the defense. Not only does he lose focus and drop some passes that should be caught, but he does not go up aggressively and fight for the high pass in jump-ball situations. He is quick in getting started after the catch and is an elusive runner once he gets in the open field. Overall, Williams no doubt has the talent to be a good starting receiver in the NFL. However, unless he does a much better job of maintaining his focus and concentration in order to catch the ball more consistently, he will not become the receiver he is capable of.
 
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I thought that's what :o was for.
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Demetrius Williams - WR Ravens.

Was a 4th round pick of the Ravens last year. However he generally carried an earlier round grade, but dropped for some reason to the second day.

Nice size, nice speed. Had a decent rookie year: 22-396-2 TD. Could supplant Derrick Mason in a year or two.

NFL.com summary:

Williams is a talented receiver whose ability to make tough catches and big plays grabs people's attention. He is a smooth route runner who consistently has shown the quickness out of his cuts to get separation from defenders, but lacks the explosiveness and top-end playing speed to run away from the defense. Not only does he lose focus and drop some passes that should be caught, but he does not go up aggressively and fight for the high pass in jump-ball situations. He is quick in getting started after the catch and is an elusive runner once he gets in the open field. Overall, Williams no doubt has the talent to be a good starting receiver in the NFL. However, unless he does a much better job of maintaining his focus and concentration in order to catch the ball more consistently, he will not become the receiver he is capable of.
By the way this is on the blogger (quoting Baltimore Sun, article no longer exists) from Nov 21 last year:
WR Demetrius Williams joins WR Derrick Mason and WR Mark Clayton as the only receivers to be activated for all nine Ravens games, and the 23-year-old from Pittsburg, Calif., has vaulted past veterans WR Devard Darling and WR Clarence Moore to become the No. 3 wide-out. Williams has been so impressive that HC Brian Billick acknowledged they should expand Williams' role in the offense. "We need to get the ball to him more," Billick said Wednesday. Williams compiled 2,660 yards and 20 touchdowns at Oregon, and was the 14th receiver taken in the draft.
Additionally here's an article from the Baltimore examiner stated that Mason has a future with the Ravens, but his role might be diminished: Link
 
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WR Ruvell Martin GB This guy got on my radar in the last few GB games, Favre likes to spread it out...
I think the receiver to be watching in GB is Carlyle Holiday rather than Martin. Favre was throwing to him alot the last game of the year and the kid used to be a college QB and seems to have good hands and presence. Just needs work on his route running.
Where does Koren fit in?
Not sure where Koren will fit in - the latest I could dig up-- Koren Robinson Update --

Wed Mar 7, 2007 --from FFMastermind.com

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports according to a clerk with the Kirkland (Wash.) Municipal Court, WR Koren Robinson met with a judge in Kirkland last week because he was unable to serve his sentence in Green Bay. According to court documents, Robinson reported that the county jail was full and could not take him. Robinson had received approval from the court to serve the 90-day sentence, which includes 45 days of work release, in Green Bay. If Robinson isn't admitted to the jail to serve his sentence by Thursday, he'll have to report back to court for a review in front of the judge. The sentence is for violating his parole stemming from a drunken driving conviction in Kirkland.

 
WR Ruvell Martin GB This guy got on my radar in the last few GB games, Favre likes to spread it out...
I think the receiver to be watching in GB is Carlyle Holiday rather than Martin. Favre was throwing to him alot the last game of the year and the kid used to be a college QB and seems to have good hands and presence. Just needs work on his route running.
Where does Koren fit in?
Not sure where Koren will fit in - the latest I could dig up-- Koren Robinson Update --

Wed Mar 7, 2007 --from FFMastermind.com

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports according to a clerk with the Kirkland (Wash.) Municipal Court, WR Koren Robinson met with a judge in Kirkland last week because he was unable to serve his sentence in Green Bay. According to court documents, Robinson reported that the county jail was full and could not take him. Robinson had received approval from the court to serve the 90-day sentence, which includes 45 days of work release, in Green Bay. If Robinson isn't admitted to the jail to serve his sentence by Thursday, he'll have to report back to court for a review in front of the judge. The sentence is for violating his parole stemming from a drunken driving conviction in Kirkland.
He'll drive from Seattle to Green Bay. At 100 MPH he should be there in no time. :blackdot:
 
What the take on Hank Baskett? I read all 3 pages here and did not see anything about him.

Last year he had a great pre-season as a rookie but ended up losing the starting job to Stallworth when the Eagles got him from NO.

He showed some signs of life during the season when he had a chance to get on the field. Once McNabb got injured he was pretty much out of the picture again, but the last game of the season when the Eagles were fighting for their playoff lives - he came up with with 7 - 177 and 1TD.

At 6'4", 220lbs he makes for a nice redzone target.

Hopefully Stallworth ends up somewhere else opening the door for him.

Any opinions? Or does he not count as a sleeper?

 
What the take on Hank Baskett? I read all 3 pages here and did not see anything about him.Last year he had a great pre-season as a rookie but ended up losing the starting job to Stallworth when the Eagles got him from NO. He showed some signs of life during the season when he had a chance to get on the field. Once McNabb got injured he was pretty much out of the picture again, but the last game of the season when the Eagles were fighting for their playoff lives - he came up with with 7 - 177 and 1TD.At 6'4", 220lbs he makes for a nice redzone target. Hopefully Stallworth ends up somewhere else opening the door for him. Any opinions? Or does he not count as a sleeper?
Assuming they don't sign a #2 WR, I think Baskett has the inside track to the #2. I've heard they may be bringing in Kevin Curtis, who is a speed, downfield guy like Stallworth, who would take away from Baskett, but I think Baskett has a huge upside.
 
Non existent WRs(not due to injury) rarely do well their 2nd year. I think alot of players mentioned are at least a year away. Look at WRs enterring their 3rd year may prove more useful.
How about Mark Bradley? The Bears seem to be set with Muhammed and Berrian as starters and Bradley keeps getting hurt, but the guy was a high draft pick and has had a good game here and there.I grant you he's not a deep sleeper on the level of guys like Jonathan Orr, but I'd guess he's available in many leagues.
 
What the take on Hank Baskett? I read all 3 pages here and did not see anything about him.

Last year he had a great pre-season as a rookie but ended up losing the starting job to Stallworth when the Eagles got him from NO.

He showed some signs of life during the season when he had a chance to get on the field. Once McNabb got injured he was pretty much out of the picture again, but the last game of the season when the Eagles were fighting for their playoff lives - he came up with with 7 - 177 and 1TD.

At 6'4", 220lbs he makes for a nice redzone target.

Hopefully Stallworth ends up somewhere else opening the door for him.

Any opinions? Or does he not count as a sleeper?
Patriots | Terms of Stallworth contract offerThu, 8 Mar 2007 06:18:24 -0800

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The Associated Press, citing the Boston Herald, is reporting unrestricted free-agent WR Donte' Stallworth (Eagles) visited the New England Patriots Tuesday, March 6, and was offered a six-year, $32 million deal.

The latest on Stallworth. Should bump up Hasketts value? And Stallworths value just dropped.

 
Courtney Roby - Early 3rd round pick in 2005 still has plenty of time to get his career on track. Tennessee is weak at WR, so there's a real opportunity for someone to emerge. Lack of production is a concern.
I was going to say Roby. He was UNSTOPPABLE in Madden 06 which is my ultimate litmus test... ha:unsure:
 
Non existent WRs(not due to injury) rarely do well their 2nd year. I think alot of players mentioned are at least a year away. Look at WRs enterring their 3rd year may prove more useful.
How about Mark Bradley? The Bears seem to be set with Muhammed and Berrian as starters and Bradley keeps getting hurt, but the guy was a high draft pick and has had a good game here and there.I grant you he's not a deep sleeper on the level of guys like Jonathan Orr, but I'd guess he's available in many leagues.
I recently traded for Mark Bradley in my dynasty league. I gave up a 3.07 for him. I feel that he has a lot of potential. He was said to have the best run after the catch WR in that draft. Well in year 1, he started maturing and then he tore his ACL in his best game. Then recovered, second year came on towards the middle part of the season. He caught a curl and ran right by the Jets defenders for a long TD. He also had a couple other long passes. He will only continue to develop opposite Berrian, when Moose will be limited. Bradley has size 6'2 and speed.
 
Courtney Roby - Early 3rd round pick in 2005 still has plenty of time to get his career on track. Tennessee is weak at WR, so there's a real opportunity for someone to emerge. Lack of production is a concern.
I was going to say Roby. He was UNSTOPPABLE in Madden 06 which is my ultimate litmus test... ha:scared:
Someone please explain why Roby had just 2 catches last year, in his 2nd season and healthy, when Brandon Jones was returning from an ACL tear and Givens went down for most of the year. Bennett also missed some time. Yet Roydell Williams and especially Bobby Wade were more active than Roby. He doesn't seem to me to be a significant part of the future in Tennessee.
 
Tim Carter - now that he is a Brown is he #2 WR (#3 target) ?
For what it's worth, Rotoworld's take was this:
Browns acquired WR Tim Carter from the Giants in exchange for Reuben Droughns.Carter was unlikely to make the Giants and he's no lock to make the Browns. The former second-round pick will try to carve out a Dennis Northcutt-like role on returns and in the slot. He'll compete with Josh Cribbs and Travis Wilson.
Jurevicius looks to be the starter in 2007, and of course Edwards.
 
Tim Carter - now that he is a Brown is he #2 WR (#3 target) ?
For what it's worth, Rotoworld's take was this:
Browns acquired WR Tim Carter from the Giants in exchange for Reuben Droughns.Carter was unlikely to make the Giants and he's no lock to make the Browns. The former second-round pick will try to carve out a Dennis Northcutt-like role on returns and in the slot. He'll compete with Josh Cribbs and Travis Wilson.
Jurevicius looks to be the starter in 2007, and of course Edwards.
Expect Carter to look good in preseason though. I don't imagine he gets cut. I think him looking good in preseason has been a big prob/tease for some of us dynasty folks over the years.
 
Tim Carter - now that he is a Brown is he #2 WR (#3 target) ?
For what it's worth, Rotoworld's take was this:
Browns acquired WR Tim Carter from the Giants in exchange for Reuben Droughns.Carter was unlikely to make the Giants and he's no lock to make the Browns. The former second-round pick will try to carve out a Dennis Northcutt-like role on returns and in the slot. He'll compete with Josh Cribbs and Travis Wilson.
Jurevicius looks to be the starter in 2007, and of course Edwards.
I'd rather have Travis Wilson.
 
Fallerjw said:
Tim Carter - now that he is a Brown is he #2 WR (#3 target) ?
For what it's worth, Rotoworld's take was this:
Browns acquired WR Tim Carter from the Giants in exchange for Reuben Droughns.Carter was unlikely to make the Giants and he's no lock to make the Browns. The former second-round pick will try to carve out a Dennis Northcutt-like role on returns and in the slot. He'll compete with Josh Cribbs and Travis Wilson.
Jurevicius looks to be the starter in 2007, and of course Edwards.
I'd rather have Travis Wilson.
Me, too :thumbup:
 
Fallerjw said:
Tim Carter - now that he is a Brown is he #2 WR (#3 target) ?
For what it's worth, Rotoworld's take was this:
Browns acquired WR Tim Carter from the Giants in exchange for Reuben Droughns.Carter was unlikely to make the Giants and he's no lock to make the Browns. The former second-round pick will try to carve out a Dennis Northcutt-like role on returns and in the slot. He'll compete with Josh Cribbs and Travis Wilson.
Jurevicius looks to be the starter in 2007, and of course Edwards.
I'd rather have Travis Wilson.
Me, too :shrug:
It's a shame because at one point Carter had so much potential. He seemed to have a great combination of size and speed, but if a WR can't stay healthy and can't catch the ball, it doesn't matter.
 
McMullen was a stud in Virginia catching a good amount of balls from Matt Schaub. When he was taken by the eagles, I drafted him kind of high as I had seen him play a lot and knew what he could do. Come to say, he rarely to never took the field for some reason. He's swimming in the FA pool in my dynasty league right now but I stll keep an eye on him and liked that he got some playing time in Minn since the trade. He could bloom into a solid veteran.
:pickle: :pickle: and ^ for some new updates now that the draft is over & we're into mini-camps.

Some thoughts after reading the thread...

Dave Thomas NE TE - looked good after D Graham left, but now there's a lot more (proven) competition for Brady's attention. NE runs a fair amount of 2 TE sets, so there's a potential for Thomas to get on the field. But aside from the occasional fake block/sneak out route by Graham, it seemed like he (as TE2) contributed more via blocking for the run game.

Baskett - same as above w/ Curtis coming in to replace Stallworth. Still a decent option considering his ADP @ this point.

Drew Carter - seems like he'll at least be more involved (early anyway) while they bring Jarrett along. What happens @ QB and what he (potentially) does with the opportunity there is going to determine any upside - at least this season.

Adding - 1 or maybe 2 of Peerless Price / J. Reed / R. Parrish in BUF. Not 'players you don't know' but guys getting lost in dynasty drafts currently. Losman seemed to put together a decent enough season to provide some optimism about the passing game in BUF. And now that they've moved Willis - leaving a couple of rookies w/ Atrain as the running game - it seems like someone should emerge as a decent WR option there.

Tab Perry or Antonio Chapman - CIN's next in line (depth chart wise) to try to replace C Henry's production as the WR3 in Cincy. Either of these guys have a chance to come close over the first half of the season??? Also on the depth chart are Reggie McNeal (QB), Benny Brazell (inj), Ethan Kilmer (FS), Glenn Holt. Or maybe a decent role increase for TE Reggie Kelly?

 
What about Dallas Baker, anyone like his sleeper potential, or am I too hopeful?
I took a flier on him, as he was the 3rd rated senior WR coming into last season by some. I like to look back on previous years' rankings, and if I can afford the roster spot, take a chance on a guy who was rated high and slipped some. I haven't researched him much, but I'll have to cut one from my roster before opening day. I hope to see more of him in preseason, as the Steelers don't have much as far as established quality at WR, but plenty of potential. Someone will have to succeed Ward in a couple years.
 
How about Nate Washington? WR PITTWhat about Dallas Baker, anyone like his sleeper potential, or am I too hopeful?
Actually, I think the "unknown" wideout to keep tabs on in Pittsburgh isn't either of those guys. It's Willie Reid. Reportedly, Reid's catching everything in practices and running good routes. Hes got some YAC ability in him too. He looked good last year in TC. Hell, he looked better than Homles did at that stage(obviously, not the case any more). Injuries derailed him for basically the whole season.Another reason to keep an eye on him is because he'll almost assuredly be returning kicks and punts. Reid has the ability to be a special returner. Not in the Hester class, but plenty dangerous. On top of that, Holmes and Colclough were horrid at holding onto the ball on STs in '06 so it's likely Reid's job to lose by default. If he can amount to ANYTHING as a WR(and I don't think it's totally far-fetched for him to become the #3 slot guy) if your in a league that gives individual points for returns he may be worth a shot as an end-of-the-bench WR.
 
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How about Nate Washington? WR PITTWhat about Dallas Baker, anyone like his sleeper potential, or am I too hopeful?
Actually, I think the "unknown" wideout to keep tabs on in Pittsburgh isn't either of those guys. It's Willie Reid. Reportedly, Reid's catching everything in practices and running good routes. Hes got some YAC ability in him too. He looked good last year in TC. Hell, he looked better than Homles did at that stage(obviously, not the case any more). Injuries derailed him for basically the whole season.Another reason to keep an eye on him is because he'll almost assuredly be returning kicks and punts. Reid has the ability to be a special returner. Not in the Hester class, but plenty dangerous. On top of that, Holmes and Colclough were horrid at holding onto the ball on STs in '06 so it's likely Reid's job to lose by default. If he can amount to ANYTHING as a WR(and I don't think it's totally far-fetched for him to become the #3 slot guy) if your in a league that gives individual points for returns he may be worth a shot as an end-of-the-bench WR.
:lmao: Much like Hixon in Denver - the team had big plans for him in the return game and as a threat to make the big play on offense, but the plans never got off the ground because of injuries. Reid is more explosive than Washington or Wilson and should combine with Holmes to really frustrate defenses with speed and quickness in three and four WR sets. The Steelers could simulate some greatest show on turf kind of looks with this set of WRs - I call it the "cockroaches scurrying when the lights turn on" look - the ball is snapped and the WRs go every which direction. As long as Ben is good at quickly making the right read and delivering the ball accurately (particularly in stride), this could be fun.
 
Much like Hixon in Denver - the team had big plans for him in the return game and as a threat to make the big play on offense, but the plans never got off the ground because of injuries. Reid is more explosive than Washington or Wilson and should combine with Holmes to really frustrate defenses with speed and quickness in three and four WR sets. The Steelers could simulate some greatest show on turf kind of looks with this set of WRs - I call it the "cockroaches scurrying when the lights turn on" look - the ball is snapped and the WRs go every which direction. As long as Ben is good at quickly making the right read and delivering the ball accurately (particularly in stride), this could be fun.
I basically agree with you. With Arians perpetually bringing up the talk of multi-WR sets and no-huddle formations it makes for some interesting possibilities(if it's born out on the field, of course.).I got to watch Reid play a pretty decent bit when he was in college. Remember that he played a little RB too. And for his size he really wasn't afraid to stick his nose in here and there. The Steelers blew a day one pick on him last year, even though they'd already taken Holmes, for a reason: He made plays. I think, aside from being able to run the gimmicky QB plays, they had hoped he'd be their "Randle El" after Randle El left. A guy that could make big plays on special teams, but also via reverses or short routes/swings/etc. that they'd tailor to get him one-on-one in space. Or throw him in at RB for a play here and there to keep defenses guessing. Seemed like he was starting to get it last TC, and sounds as if he's picked up where he left off this offseason.
 

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