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Plop, Plop ... fizz, fizz ... oh what a relief he is? (1 Viewer)

Muldoon

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How much stock do you all put in the talk that Najeh starts cutting into FWP's touches?

I have Plop Plop stashed, and was pleased to see him wind up in Pittsburgh. FWP is a dynamite back, 'tis true, but Davenport is more suited to "Steeler" football, it would seem.

TIA

 
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How much stock do you all put in the talk that Najeh starts cutting into FWP's touches? I have Plop Plop stashed, and was pleased to see him wind up in Pittsburgh. FWP is a dynamite back, 'tis true, but Davenport is more suited to "Steeler" football, it would seem.TIA
Michael Turner 2????
 
How much stock do you all put in the talk that Najeh starts cutting into FWP's touches? I have Plop Plop stashed, and was pleased to see him wind up in Pittsburgh. FWP is a dynamite back, 'tis true, but Davenport is more suited to "Steeler" football, it would seem.TIA
It would appear that the Steeler O is transforming before our eyes. Instead of the big bruising back they actually have someone that can bust big plays and scamper all over the place instead of trying to bull you over. They also have a decent qb that can burn defenses if they over commit to the run, plus Hines Ward. Granted Ben hasn't looked too great thus far but more than likely he'll turn it around. I assume Davenports reputation preceeds him simply because he's from "Da U". I think he'll get a few touches...maybe more so around the goalline, but FWP hasn't been a failure to this point.
 
It seems to me that PIT is accepting that FWP is a pretty solid running back. He's a lot bigger now (205) than he was in years past (180ish I believe?).

This year up the middle he's averaged 4.5ypc on 31 carries, and he is rocking 50% efficiency (3/6) in goal-line carries, which is pretty damn solid.

The real story here is how his carries per game seem to fluctuate this year... is it because he's wearing down per game or because of the defenses (small sample size) he's faced, or what?

This I cannot answer because I haven't watched him across all four games, but I'm sure an avid steeler fan should be able to provide some better insight.

For me, I'm buying Davenport cutting into FWP's touches a lot, but what you will see as a direct result of this is a noticable jump in Parker's YPC. So although he will lose touches, you will likely only see a negligible decrease in his total output.

The reason being, Davenport's strength is his off-tackle running ability. FWP's is up the middle and wide outside.

For his career off tackle, Davenport has averaged 6.15ypc off 102 carries, including 5 of his 7 career TDs. That is compared to a 3.77ypc and 2TDs off his other 117 attempts.

By contrast, FWP averaged 4.18ypc off tackle as opposed to 5.06ypc wide and inside.

While any lehman can tell you that Dport and FWP have two distinct skill sets (being that there's a 40lb difference in weight), a quick look at some stat splits dictates that while FWP may lose some carries, he will see a very marginal decrease in overall output.

Honestly, if I'm a FWP owner, I'm never excited about my RB2 losing touches, but being that he's a smaller guy, I'm glad that he'll have less opportunities to be injured, and more opportunities that maximize his skill-sets, allowing him to be the most efficient point producer for me with a lower risk of injury.

The final question for me is, will Dport see enough touches to actually be worth picking up?

add: can we rename this topic to something more conducive of the actual discussion please?

 
The real story here is how his carries per game seem to fluctuate this year... is it because he's wearing down per game or because of the defenses (small sample size) he's faced, or what?
His carries fluctuate depending on the status fo the game. When the Steelers are behind and throwing, he's not in, Haynes is. When they're ahead and running, FWP is the man. Unfortunately, they've been behind way too much so far.Najeh isn't going to cut into FWP's carries any more than any other backup in the league. He'll replace him just enough to give him breathers and keep him from having to carry the ball 35 times a game.
 
The real story here is how his carries per game seem to fluctuate this year... is it because he's wearing down per game or because of the defenses (small sample size) he's faced, or what?
His carries fluctuate depending on the status fo the game. When the Steelers are behind and throwing, he's not in, Haynes is. When they're ahead and running, FWP is the man. Unfortunately, they've been behind way too much so far.Najeh isn't going to cut into FWP's carries any more than any other backup in the league. He'll replace him just enough to give him breathers and keep him from having to carry the ball 35 times a game.
This is what I"m thinking. I think he'll see a little more activity than most backups, but still... I'm not sold he'll see enough touches to really get anything other than desperation spot duty in lineups.And if FWP goes down, I'm not even sure i'd trust him as my RB2.
 
The real story here is how his carries per game seem to fluctuate this year... is it because he's wearing down per game or because of the defenses (small sample size) he's faced, or what?
His carries fluctuate depending on the status fo the game. When the Steelers are behind and throwing, he's not in, Haynes is. When they're ahead and running, FWP is the man. Unfortunately, they've been behind way too much so far.Najeh isn't going to cut into FWP's carries any more than any other backup in the league. He'll replace him just enough to give him breathers and keep him from having to carry the ball 35 times a game.
This is what I"m thinking. I think he'll see a little more activity than most backups, but still... I'm not sold he'll see enough touches to really get anything other than desperation spot duty in lineups.And if FWP goes down, I'm not even sure i'd trust him as my RB2.
I'd trust any Steelers starting RB as my RB2.
 
The real story here is how his carries per game seem to fluctuate this year... is it because he's wearing down per game or because of the defenses (small sample size) he's faced, or what?
His carries fluctuate depending on the status fo the game. When the Steelers are behind and throwing, he's not in, Haynes is. When they're ahead and running, FWP is the man. Unfortunately, they've been behind way too much so far.Najeh isn't going to cut into FWP's carries any more than any other backup in the league. He'll replace him just enough to give him breathers and keep him from having to carry the ball 35 times a game.
This is what I"m thinking. I think he'll see a little more activity than most backups, but still... I'm not sold he'll see enough touches to really get anything other than desperation spot duty in lineups.And if FWP goes down, I'm not even sure i'd trust him as my RB2.
I'd trust any Steelers starting RB as my RB2.
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How much stock do you all put in the talk that Najeh starts cutting into FWP's touches? I have Plop Plop stashed, and was pleased to see him wind up in Pittsburgh. FWP is a dynamite back, 'tis true, but Davenport is more suited to "Steeler" football, it would seem.TIA
You mean you have Dump Truck stashed :lmao:
 
I can see Davenport playing a "BUS" type of role in the coming weeks. Then when the cold weather hits Cohwer loves pounding the big backs.

Davenport has shown flashes so we will see.

 
I've been hearing this since Poopster was signed and it's yet to materialize in any significant way.

I say Davenport averages 3-5 carries a game from here on out. I don't think he threatens Parker at the GL either.

 

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