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Did the guy at least play blackjack correctly? Did he know when double down on a soft 17? When to surrender? When to split pairs? If not, you should use this opportunity to point out his errors , with particular reference to the underlying math. In my experience, people always appreciate it when you show them that they've been making basic math errors that a reasonably bright middle-schooler would have avoided.

Once he realizes that you can improve his blackjack game, he'll surely realize that you can be helpful in other areas too. That's your in.
Interesting idea. But even completely drunk, he played it the exact way you are supposed to. Staying on a 14 if dealer showed a 5. Hitting on a 14 if dealer showed a 10. Always splitting 8s and As regardless of how tipsy he was. Doubling 11s, etc.

 
Is this a bad move? It is his personal email, so no worries about his company seeing it. He was into humor big time. It is an attention grabber (or at least an attempt to). If he really has no interest in helping me, my guess is that he would not have much of an interest regardless of what I wrote. And there is also the chance that he appreciate the funny attempt.

What say you?
Don't ####ing do that. While he might have a great sense of humor, the guy was having fun at a casino. Don't push your luck on the first email, keep it professional.

 
So I'll give you a serious reply here...I haven't read the whole thread, so pardon if I repeat.

First - I worked with a guy who got a job way above his educational level simply because he waited on the branch manager at our firm when said manager was on vacation. When the manager left, he gave the guy a tip, and his business card, and told him that he should call him if he ever was interested in a job. The guy did, and ended up working for us for a while. Sadly, he was a better waiter, but that's a different story.

If I were you, I'd simply e-mail him back. Casually. Just a "nice to meet you," and "I was hoping to get your perspective on your industry" type stuff...just open the conversation, knowing that if he a) doesn't remeber you b/c he was too drunk, or b)doesn't care now, he'll either not reply or cut it short. If he really did remember you and you might actually have a job shot, he'll reciprocate the discussion.

 
So I'll give you a serious reply here...I haven't read the whole thread, so pardon if I repeat.

First - I worked with a guy who got a job way above his educational level simply because he waited on the branch manager at our firm when said manager was on vacation. When the manager left, he gave the guy a tip, and his business card, and told him that he should call him if he ever was interested in a job. The guy did, and ended up working for us for a while. Sadly, he was a better waiter, but that's a different story.

If I were you, I'd simply e-mail him back. Casually. Just a "nice to meet you," and "I was hoping to get your perspective on your industry" type stuff...just open the conversation, knowing that if he a) doesn't remeber you b/c he was too drunk, or b)doesn't care now, he'll either not reply or cut it short. If he really did remember you and you might actually have a job shot, he'll reciprocate the discussion.
Great post!

 
In my life, I've had probably 30 to 40 big name guys from companies hand me business cards and tell me if I ever needed a job, or anything business related, to just email them and they'd help. Out of all of them, only 1 guy ever actually helped me out. He was a Sr. VP of an oil company and he would write me a letter of recommendation and, if he knew the person at the company, would call and talk with them about me. Got me into at least 2 jobs that I know of.

So the moral here is, these guys can help if they want to. But it seems to be very rare to find someone who will actually help. Good luck! :thumbup:

 
In my life, I've had probably 30 to 40 big name guys from companies hand me business cards and tell me if I ever needed a job, or anything business related, to just email them and they'd help. Out of all of them, only 1 guy ever actually helped me out. He was a Sr. VP of an oil company and he would write me a letter of recommendation and, if he knew the person at the company, would call and talk with them about me. Got me into at least 2 jobs that I know of.

So the moral here is, these guys can help if they want to. But it seems to be very rare to find someone who will actually help. Good luck! :thumbup:
Thanks for sharing what happened with you. I agree: most people do not care to actually go the distance to help. Some yes, but not most.

But all you need is one. All you need is one thing to truly hit. And if that is a guy that gets you in a door you may not have otherwise gotten into, that could lead to a job, a career, etc.

Anyway, I know you were kidding earlier back on pg 1 of this thread with the whole staring with a joke bit (ex: thanks for the offer, I accept). But is there really a downside to trying it? Like you said only 1 of 30 or 40 guys helped you out, right? So looking back, would you have tried something different had you known the standard route would not work with over 95% of those out there?

Part of me thinks if he wants to help, he will help, regardless of what I write. But for someone that even admitted humor is in his blood and who clearly was trying to get laughs and cracking jokes left and right - part of me thinks show him I was paying attention and start in with some mild humor. Dunno.

 
In my life, I've had probably 30 to 40 big name guys from companies hand me business cards and tell me if I ever needed a job, or anything business related, to just email them and they'd help. Out of all of them, only 1 guy ever actually helped me out. He was a Sr. VP of an oil company and he would write me a letter of recommendation and, if he knew the person at the company, would call and talk with them about me. Got me into at least 2 jobs that I know of.

So the moral here is, these guys can help if they want to. But it seems to be very rare to find someone who will actually help. Good luck! :thumbup:
Thanks for sharing what happened with you. I agree: most people do not care to actually go the distance to help. Some yes, but not most.

But all you need is one. All you need is one thing to truly hit. And if that is a guy that gets you in a door you may not have otherwise gotten into, that could lead to a job, a career, etc.

Anyway, I know you were kidding earlier back on pg 1 of this thread with the whole staring with a joke bit (ex: thanks for the offer, I accept). But is there really a downside to trying it? Like you said only 1 of 30 or 40 guys helped you out, right? So looking back, would you have tried something different had you known the standard route would not work with over 95% of those out there?

Part of me thinks if he wants to help, he will help, regardless of what I write. But for someone that even admitted humor is in his blood and who clearly was trying to get laughs and cracking jokes left and right - part of me thinks show him I was paying attention and start in with some mild humor. Dunno.
I think you hit the nail on the head here.

 
Didn't readany replies, but if someone gives you their email address, assume they meant it - you are invited to email him. Do that, but just to ask him if you guys can meet for lunch, then ask him in person if he can help you out.

 
email him a joke, and then tell him that if he doesn't forward it on to at least 10 people, he will be molested by a goat.

 
Just like my neighbor spends Spring Training here since he is the CIO of the Yankees even though I am in IT also we never talk technology. I did call him a week before Jeter's final game but I kind of reached out a bit late. This season I will defintely take him up on his offer of atteding a few games.

 
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Didn't readany replies, but if someone gives you their email address, assume they meant it - you are invited to email him. Do that, but just to ask him if you guys can meet for lunch, then ask him in person if he can help you out.
Be careful with things that take up too much time. I work with the CEO/CFO of a smaller Fortune 500 company, and closely with the SVP of operations. I would never expect either of them to take time to have a random lunch. I don't know if it's just our industry or not, but some of these guys are INSANELY busy.

It's a lot easier to blow off a lunch than a simple phone call. If he's cool on the call, THEN see if he wants to have lunch, or...since you know he's down with drinking, maybe some drinks after work at a time of his choosing, so you can "buy him a drink for his time."

 

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