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Or conversely you can get Thompson and Hyde, both superior talents, and reap the rewards of fading the Williams hype train. 

There is a reason Williams was an undeafted free agent. 
did you see what he did for an extended stretch and on into the playoffs....it wasn't like he had just one good game or something....I get the whole "there is a reason" thing sometimes, but just not sure it applies here with Williams....maybe "there is a reason" they waited until the 6th round to add depth to the position....
 

 
Edelman. ASJ has been horrible every year, I just don't think that magically changes.
I was actually thinking White may be the sneaky NE "receiver" to own.

Some people are down on White because they drafted Harris, but I see Harris as much more of a threat to cut into the Michel/Burkhead carries than the White receptions. IMO Brady just trusts White and he also just lost his security blanket in Gronk.

I don't think a lot of folks realize White 87/751/7 counting just his receptions and ignoring his rushing. Edelman went for 74/850/6. With Harry around to take the top off the defense in a similar way Cooks did and no Gronk in the middle of the field it wouldn't really surprise me to see a bump to both White and Edelman this season.

 
I still like Pettis as the #1, hope this drops down his asking price. 49ers were bare at WR last year, they had to add multiple players, they played much of the season with Goodwin, Garcon and Pettis out of the line up. Deebo should have a nice year (as a #2) if he can stay healthy, Hurd is still somewhat a project but should be fun to see where Shanahan lines him up. I believe Kittle was going to drop off a bit anyway, he was basically the last man standing in that offense.


Agree with this. Could have been a lot worse for Pettis IMO. They were always going to add someone and I'm not sure why people are automatically assuming Deebo will crush Pettis in that offense (other than the shiny new toy mentality). Deebo is a nice WR but to me he doesn't project as #1. You might say Pettis doesn't either but I think he's still top dog there until Deebo proves himself. Hurd is more of a project IMO. 

Compared to the 49ers landing either AB or OBJ (which was widely rumoured in the offseason) Pettis' position now seems pretty favourable. 
I'm with these two guys. I don't see how Pettis' stock was greatly hurt in the draft. The 49ers traded up to grab him at 2.12 last year and he performed better than many expected once he got his chance (with a backup QB no less). So now they add guys with 2.04 and 3.03. The odds of each of those guys panning out in the NFL are lower than Pettis who has already shown NFL ability. And FWIW, Pettis and Deebo are the same age.

 
Winner: Joe Mixon

Bengals drafted an OT in the 1st round, a TE in the 2nd round who's a better blocker than receiver, and an OG in the mid rounds that wasn't an elite prospect but was the first offensive lineman to start at Ohio St as a true freshmen since Orlando Pace.

 
Winner : Devin Funchess

Everyone has been calling him a fantasy loser after the draft of Campbell. I see it the other way. I envision the target share to be Hilton 1, Ebron/Funchess 2 and 3, Campbell and RBs 4 and 5. If Campbell ascends to WR1 status, it will come at Hilton's expense. And next year. I think the rookie will have a role and likely make the whole squad better.  And I understand Funchess is on a one-year deal, but I think he has modest value this year. WR2/3 with upside. If he does achieve that, then he would seem a good candidate to resign. He is still quite young. I just don't think this draft hurt him at all. If they had drafted one of the bigger WRs, then yeah.

 
Loser - Derrius Guice.  The Skins Rd 4 pick of Bryce Love is concerning, especially with Schefter's report that Guice's recovery has been slow.  Been holding Guice hoping for a big payoff, but this pick makes me more concerned that the infection complications Guice had following surgery are going to set him back.  Either way, if feels like now we're looking at more of a potential timeshare in Wash with Love in the picture.  Not good for Guice long term upside in my opinion.


So you think a guy who tore his ACL at the END of last season, and who's knee raised red flags for teams who tool him completely off their draft boards, is going to be ready before Guice, who is running by the way... more than Love can say


Not necessarily for most of 2019 season, but I definitely think it affects long term outlook and increases chances this is a timeshare longer term.  Also think it could reflect Skins concern about his recovery process and thus hedging their bet accordingly.  Was hoping this was going to be a 3 down back situation, which is increasingly harder to find.


I'm not very worried about Love. But to each their own 
Not one mention of ADP? He didn’t sign that deal so he can be a backup. He/they think he still has a shot at Emmitt’s crown. 

With the Redskins offensive line and more importantly, their OL coach makes it an outside possibility. 

 
Not one mention of ADP? He didn’t sign that deal so he can be a backup. He/they think he still has a shot at Emmitt’s crown. 

With the Redskins offensive line and more importantly, their OL coach makes it an outside possibility. 
Agreed that he could be the guy this year. Or at least in September. But he needs ~5000 yards to pass Emmitt.

 
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Winner : Devin Funchess

Everyone has been calling him a fantasy loser after the draft of Campbell. I see it the other way. I envision the target share to be Hilton 1, Ebron/Funchess 2 and 3, Campbell and RBs 4 and 5. If Campbell ascends to WR1 status, it will come at Hilton's expense. And next year. I think the rookie will have a role and likely make the whole squad better.  And I understand Funchess is on a one-year deal, but I think he has modest value this year. WR2/3 with upside. If he does achieve that, then he would seem a good candidate to resign. He is still quite young. I just don't think this draft hurt him at all. If they had drafted one of the bigger WRs, then yeah.
I agree with most of this.

While Funchess did have a very slight ding, my big takeaway was Hilton(turns 30 during the season) took a big hit in my dynasty rankings. Funchess longevity in the offense is probably more tied to Ebron repeating his 13TD's than the development of Cambell.

The Colts aren't hurting for money right now but Hilton will make $15mil this year. He's scheduled to make $14.5+mil next season and if IND chose to release him they save all $14.5mil. It would seem to me Hilton would either need to play like an All-Pro to earn that 2020 contract and/or IND needs to come very, very close to making the SB so they are willing to spend the $ to keep the band together. There is a very real chance Hilton is playing elsewhere in 2020 and I don't hear many people discussing that.

 
I agree with most of this.

While Funchess did have a very slight ding, my big takeaway was Hilton(turns 30 during the season) took a big hit in my dynasty rankings. Funchess longevity in the offense is probably more tied to Ebron repeating his 13TD's than the development of Cambell.

The Colts aren't hurting for money right now but Hilton will make $15mil this year. He's scheduled to make $14.5+mil next season and if IND chose to release him they save all $14.5mil. It would seem to me Hilton would either need to play like an All-Pro to earn that 2020 contract and/or IND needs to come very, very close to making the SB so they are willing to spend the $ to keep the band together. There is a very real chance Hilton is playing elsewhere in 2020 and I don't hear many people discussing that.
I think people aren't discussing it, because its not very likely. It would take a very unique set of circumstances for that scenario to play out. Hilton is arguably the 2nd best player on the Colts roster. He's coming off arguably the best season of his career, and the Colts have an excellent cap situation. The only scenario I could see Hilton not being a Colt in 2020, is if he suffers a major injury, and is not missed while he is out. That would require either Funchess or Campbell to likely be a top-15 WR, and that feels like asking a ton even in this offense.

I think people don't talk enough about how good Hilton is. He's been a top-15 WR for most of his career, and his numbers have proven that whenever Luck has been on the field, and he's still had several big games without Luck. 

Maybe a 10% chance, that Campbell is ever as good as Hilton. He's not a threat to his job at all in my opinion, simply another addition to a pass catcher group that was needing Dontrelle Inman for a massive role down the stretch. We didn't downgrade Julio Jones because Calvin Ridley was drafted, at least I didn't, and this feels similar.

 

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