POTUS casts doubt on legitimacy of Mid-term elections. (2 Viewers)

[sho nuff]

Nah..I will just continue to post my opinion of your posts..Cause that's how it works here.  Opinion board remember?  The "free and fair elections"  is not your quote..I know sometimes this is hard for you but as has been discussed, it's not always about you.  

And it was debunked by not only a youtube video(which was pretty clear) but by me as well.  I pointed out how I actually read the laws and made my comments for the State of Michigan laws I researched.   Which i promised I would before I commented on the link you posted.

So yeah, multiple sources debunked the Brenner Center link which was the link you tried to provide to show evidence that voting was being influenced by republicans(beyond voting restrictions)..Since then it has been essentially shredded by multiple parties, and you keep destroying your credibility by trying to continue to defend it instead of just ending the discussion which you said you were gonna do earlier and which might have saved you this embarrassment.

Posting your opinion of my posts is great...just stop attributing things to me I never actually said.

The rest...is pointless to respond to as its once again completely baseless opinion...as is your opinion of my credibility.

 

[sho nuff]

You posted the following:

"More like casting doubt on legislatures enacting laws to slow voter turnout or giving more power to partisan boards to make decisions."

I asked you, ANYONE to provide me evidence to support the second half of your sentence.  You provided the links that have been disputed.  So I again am waiting to find SOME true evidence what you say is true? So far....nothing.....So there...something you actually said.

The Georgia portion has not been disputed.  That point above stands completely.  Which is one of the things I talked about...supported with multiple links...and others have discussed in other topics.  You won't accept that...fine...move on...and stop bringing me up in other posts that have nothing to do with me.

 

[jm192]

If that thirsty donkey is trying to figure out why voting access is being reduced and laws put in place to overturn election results by partisan legislations if they "feel there were voting irregularities" the donkey would be 100% correct. 

So odd none of these laws were put in place after 2016.  So odd that no one complains about all mail in voting in the states that have always done it.  So odd that these rule changes are only happening in areas Trump lost or was close.

So very odd...

If you're bothered by Presidents trying to undermine election results, are you at least bothered by Biden trying to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the Mid-Terms?  Or is this the sort of thing that's only bad when the GOP does it?

I think what Trump did was very bad and dangerous to Democracy.  I think Biden saying "If you don't pass my laws in Congress, then the 2022 elections won't be legit" isn't that far off. 

 

[James Daulton]

If you're bothered by Presidents trying to undermine election results, are you at least bothered by Biden trying to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the Mid-Terms?  Or is this the sort of thing that's only bad when the GOP does it?

I think what Trump did was very bad and dangerous to Democracy.  I think Biden saying "If you don't pass my laws in Congress, then the 2022 elections won't be legit" isn't that far off. 

I definitely thought that was stupid.  Biden's said and done a lot of stupid things.

 

[Manster]

If you're bothered by Presidents trying to undermine election results, are you at least bothered by Biden trying to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the Mid-Terms?  Or is this the sort of thing that's only bad when the GOP does it?

I think what Trump did was very bad and dangerous to Democracy.  I think Biden saying "If you don't pass my laws in Congress, then the 2022 elections won't be legit" isn't that far off. 

Biden and Obama literally do/did the same #### Trump did, but it's easier to digest cuz they are polished politicians

 

[supermike80]

The Georgia portion has not been disputed.  That point above stands completely.  Which is one of the things I talked about...supported with multiple links...and others have discussed in other topics.  You won't accept that...fine...move on...and stop bringing me up in other posts that have nothing to do with me.

All your links have been disputed.   All of them.   And with support.  If you want to move the goal posts now and say you were only referring to Georgia, then please clarify and we can look into that directly.  Based on your understanding of the information, it is likely that will be debunked as well.  But if you want to clarify your position, thats cool.

 

[supermike80]

Posting your opinion of my posts is great...just stop attributing things to me I never actually said.

The rest...is pointless to respond to as its once again completely baseless opinion...as is your opinion of my credibility.

I copied an actual quote you made.  So we can move on to that now.

 

[Insein]

No no guys. He may have a point. 

PA Court declares Mail In Ballots Unconstitutional

Sounds like something someone said back in 2020. Anyway, the point at the time that was 100% right is that there was no legislation made to amend the PA Constitution to allow for mail in ballots. It was just decided upon by the sitting state Congress (of both Rs and D's) that disregarded the state constitution in the name of "an emergency." It's fine to change the voting laws but there's a reason there is a constitution on place to prevent rapid introduction of laws with flimsy premises. They didn't follow the state procedures.

 

[James Daulton]

No no guys. He may have a point. 

PA Court declares Mail In Ballots Unconstitutional

Sounds like something someone said back in 2020. Anyway, the point at the time that was 100% right is that there was no legislation made to amend the PA Constitution to allow for mail in ballots. It was just decided upon by the sitting state Congress (of both Rs and D's) that disregarded the state constitution in the name of "an emergency." It's fine to change the voting laws but there's a reason there is a constitution on place to prevent rapid introduction of laws with flimsy premises. They didn't follow the state procedures.

That has nothing to do with fraud or "cheating."  The governement followed the rules set in place by the legislature.  As usual the Republicans are arguing against making voting as easy as possible.

All in the name of combatting a non-existent fraud problem.  MAGA guys, how do you explain the states that have nothing but mail in voting?  Are those states just ripe with fraud and their voting is all wrong?

 

[urbanhack]

Biden and Obama literally do/did the same #### Trump did, but it's easier to digest cuz they are polished politicians

Show me something remotely similar...in the same ball park...in the same state...in the same country. You guys are amazing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/26/insider/Trump-twitter-insults-list.html

 

[Manster]

Show me something remotely similar...in the same ball park...in the same state...in the same country. You guys are amazing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/26/insider/Trump-twitter-insults-list.html

Oh I dunno the Mexican border stuff for one......Obama literally said the same thing as Trump, but totally gets a pass.

Look, it's the same #### every election cycle.  My guy can't do any wrong, your guy can't do any right.  Both sides do it....Now it's just kind of out of control.  I dont like trump, but I think he did expose some of this for better, or worse.

 

[Insein]

That has nothing to do with fraud or "cheating."  The governement followed the rules set in place by the legislature.  As usual the Republicans are arguing against making voting as easy as possible.

All in the name of combatting a non-existent fraud problem.  MAGA guys, how do you explain the states that have nothing but mail in voting?  Are those states just ripe with fraud and their voting is all wrong?

No. They actually didn't follow the rules. That is why the judge said it went against the state Constitution. I'm not saying it was malevolent or a scheme since both Rs and D's did it to get the mail in vote passed. But they did it illegally which was the original claim in PA. 

 

[James Daulton]

No. They actually didn't follow the rules. That is why the judge said it went against the state Constitution. I'm not saying it was malevolent or a scheme since both Rs and D's did it to get the mail in vote passed. But they did it illegally which was the original claim in PA. 

Technical mumbo jumbo and you know.  Both sides agreed to the change in rules.  Like you said, had nothing to do with cheating.

 

[Insein]

Technical mumbo jumbo and you know.  Both sides agreed to the change in rules.  Like you said, had nothing to do with cheating.

I agreed it had nothing to do with cheating. But they still did it illegally according to the PA Constitution.