Prediction: Austin Collie will be a top 20 WR this year (1 Viewer)

[DevilintheDetail]

Austin Collie is young, talented, and in a great situation to put up big stats this year. With a passing-focused offense and a poor defense, Luck is going to be throwing the ball a lot. Wayne is 33. Luck looked locked-in with Collie during training camp. Collie put up huge PPG stats in the past and has the opportunity to do so again. If he develops into Luck's favorite receiver, the sky is the limit.

Obviously, the concussion issue is serious. But he doesn't seem to be in a Jahvid Best situation. Assuming he stays healthy, I think he has the year lots of folks think Wayne will have - that of a top 20 WR.

 

[Warrior]

Not exactly much of a limb you're going out on there...

In PPR, if Collie plays, he's top 20. If he doesn't play due to another concussion, he won't be. You're basically just predicting that nobody hits him hard enough to knock him out this year, which is 100% beyond your control.

Congratulations on the bold prediction.

 

[BassNBrew]

I'll take the under.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Not exactly much of a limb you're going out on there...In PPR, if Collie plays, he's top 20. If he doesn't play due to another concussion, he won't be. You're basically just predicting that nobody hits him hard enough to knock him out this year, which is 100% beyond your control.Congratulations on the bold prediction.

Sorry, top 20 for non-PPR. He's not being ranked anywhere near that - WR 54.

 

[need2know]

he went undrafted in my 12 team .5 ppr. are you saying I should pick him up? I think most people don't trust him to play 5 games

 

[ScottyDog]

Sorry man, but all you are doing is saying "I predict he doesn't get hurt". Everyone knows he is a top 20 WR if healthy with Luck throwing him the ball, but he has been down graded because of the concussion worries.

 

[ponchsox]

With all the talent at WR this year, I just don't see it. A top 40 finish is in order if he doesn't miss multiple games due to concussion.

 

[mbuehner]

he went undrafted in my 12 team .5 ppr. are you saying I should pick him up? I think most people don't trust him to play 5 games

Top 20 player for 4 games for free? Kinda sells itself.

 

[FF Ninja]

Sorry man, but all you are doing is saying "I predict he doesn't get hurt". Everyone knows he is a top 20 WR if healthy with Luck throwing him the ball, but he has been down graded because of the concussion worries.

I don't think this is true. WR2 with a rookie QB? I really like Collie and I wouldn't bet on him to be a top 20 WR in any format even with the health stipulation. Collie + Manning = healthy top 20Collie + Luck = ???I think this does qualify as bold. But it belongs in the bold predictions thread.

 

[Purple_King]

I feel that Luck will rely on reggie Wayne more. Wayne, even at 33, is a superb route runner with great hands. He was never known for speed so that isn't a problem. Luck and Wayne looked great during the preseason as well

 

[Zeff]

Everyone knows he is a top 20 WR if healthy with Luck throwing him the ball...

 

[Yolkix]

If everyone knows he is a top 20 wr why was he not drafted anywhere near as such all pre season even before his recent concussion scare? He could easily be a solid flex in ppr but lets not go nuts just yet.

 

[FUBAR]

Not exactly much of a limb you're going out on there...

In PPR, if Collie plays, he's top 20. If he doesn't play due to another concussion, he won't be. You're basically just predicting that nobody hits him hard enough to knock him out this year, which is 100% beyond your control.

Congratulations on the bold prediction.

what in the NFL do we control?

 

[Banger]

one of, if not the best values in FF this year. If he gets hurt big deal (of course I don't want him to get hurt) but he's basically a no risk all reward flyer. If he gets hurt you drop him for the WW wonder of the week and for as many weeks as he stays healthy you collect the value.

He played all games in 2009, missed time in 2010 and played all games last year. Yes he got rung this preseason but the fact that he's back so quickly speaks pretty well.

 

[Thumper]

Assuming growth I agree with the OP.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Sorry man, but all you are doing is saying "I predict he doesn't get hurt". Everyone knows he is a top 20 WR if healthy with Luck throwing him the ball, but he has been down graded because of the concussion worries.

I don't think this is true. WR2 with a rookie QB? I really like Collie and I wouldn't bet on him to be a top 20 WR in any format even with the health stipulation. Collie + Manning = healthy top 20Collie + Luck = ???I think this does qualify as bold. But it belongs in the bold predictions thread.

collie is welker-lite. Luck is prolly better than manning has been in the last 3 years. do the math.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

also luck did a lot of his damage in college on short routes, timing routes and underneath 'stuff'. Luck will dump to Collie when he's open. Hopefully he doesnt hang him out to dry too much!

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

cant the make a supersafe helmet for guys like this. like one that is twice the size with extra padding.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

cant the make a supersafe helmet for guys like this. like one that is twice the size with extra padding.

Indianapolis Colts WR Austin Collie (head) fully participated in practice Wednesday, Sept. 5.[ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ OUR VIEW ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ]Collie is going undrafted in some leagues and we think that's just crazy. Yes, durability is a HUGE concern but if he's healthy Collie will produce like a WR2. Pick him up and play him as a flex option this week.

 

[Hybrid]

Wow guys, tough crowd. How about instead of just bashing the prediction, explain why you agree or don't agree?

 

[ponchsox]

He will finish #21 because Ogletree just slipped into the top 20.

 

[davearm]

one of, if not the best values in FF this year. If he gets hurt big deal (of course I don't want him to get hurt) but he's basically a no risk all reward flyer. If he gets hurt you drop him for the WW wonder of the week and for as many weeks as he stays healthy you collect the value. He played all games in 2009, missed time in 2010 and played all games last year. Yes he got rung this preseason but the fact that he's back so quickly speaks pretty well.

This is where I am too. Not many better WR3s out there than this guy, when he plays, and he was drafted in the WR5+ range.I'll keep him stashed on my roster, and drop him at the first signs of another concussion.

 

[Zeff]

First time this team even remotely appears to be on the verge of an upset, some backup safety is going to earhole this guy into early onset dementia. He's done. They just haven't written the epitaph yet.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Obviously, the concussion issue is a big one. But other multiple-concussion receivers, like Greg Jennings, don't seem to be sliding all the way down draft boards because of concussion concerns.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

First time this team even remotely appears to be on the verge of an upset, some backup safety is going to earhole this guy into early onset dementia. He's done. They just haven't written the epitaph yet.

That's really a pretty idiotic statement. Thanks for your valuable contribution to the forum..Obviously there are concussion concerns regarding Collie going forward. We have no idea if he will make it through 1 regular season game, or play another 8 years. Either one is completely possible. To me he's one of the biggest values going this year though. He is being taken with Kickers and Defenses. He's shown that he can perform for an extended period as a WR1. (albeit with Manning). He was the best fantasy WR in the league for the first 6 weeks of 2010. That's nearly half of a FF regular season. He hasn't had any leg injuries that should change his abilities. He does have a rookie QB, but by most accounts Luck appears to be a very good rookie. I just fail to really see any downside for fantasy purposes this year. If he does suffer another concussion, and never plays again, you've lost your mid-teens round draft choice. (If you hit on 40% of them you generally are doing really well). Yet he could very well end up performing every bit as well as the WR you took in RD2 or RD3.

 

[squistion]

Obviously, the concussion issue is a big one. But other multiple-concussion receivers, like Greg Jennings, don't seem to be sliding all the way down draft boards because of concussion concerns.

Did I miss the play that Jennings was knocked unconscious and remained immobile on the field for several minutes?There are concussions and there are concussions, they are not all the same. Many players have had as many or more concussions than Collie but they did not have the degree of severity that he had on at least one of his.

As a fantasy owner, Collie is a headache (so to speak) that I would rather not deal with. I would prefer a player with less upside that does not have his concussion issues. Collie is a player that I will let somebody else roll the dice on.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Obviously, the concussion issue is a big one. But other multiple-concussion receivers, like Greg Jennings, don't seem to be sliding all the way down draft boards because of concussion concerns.

I would prefer a player with less upside that does not have his concussion issues. .

So, with your 15th round pick or 5th WR spot on your bench, you'd prefer a lower-upside guy? Really? I think it usually makes more sense to go for upside, since there are always plenty of low-upside WRs sitting on the waiver wire.

 

[Fantasy Benchwarmer]

I like Collie but I don't think he last the season. Concussion can come at any time for him. Wayne is the WR to own this year.

 

[Banger]

I like Collie but I don't think he last the season. Concussion can come at any time for him. Wayne is the WR to own this year.

he may be but he comes at a mid round price tag while Collie is a last round pickup. If both are healthy they'll likely have similar production.

 

[steveski]

I like Collie but I don't think he last the season. Concussion can come at any time for him. Wayne is the WR to own this year.

I agree that I'd rather own Wayne, but Wayne isn't going undrafted or in the last few rounds. That's like saying you're not high on Titus Young this year because Calvin Johnson is the guy to own.

 

[Chigurh]

To me he's a no-brainer (ahem) pickup as the last guy on your bench, especially in a PPR league. Use your non-concussed heads, people! He's a top 30 WR easily with the potential to be top 10-20.

I say start him while he's still alive. If he does happen to die on the field, the tragedy will serve as an inspiration to the rest of the players on your fantasy team so you'll have that going for you, which is nice.

 

[squistion]

Obviously, the concussion issue is a big one. But other multiple-concussion receivers, like Greg Jennings, don't seem to be sliding all the way down draft boards because of concussion concerns.

I would prefer a player with less upside that does not have his concussion issues. .

So, with your 15th round pick or 5th WR spot on your bench, you'd prefer a lower-upside guy? Really? I think it usually makes more sense to go for upside, since there are always plenty of low-upside WRs sitting on the waiver wire.

I don't think he will be available that late in most drafts - there seem to always be someone who will take a flier on him a lot earlier than the 15th round.

 

[need2know]

To me he's a no-brainer (ahem) pickup as the last guy on your bench, especially in a PPR league. Use your non-concussed heads, people! He's a top 30 WR easily with the potential to be top 10-20.I say start him while he's still alive. If he does happen to die on the field, the tragedy will serve as an inspiration to the rest of the players on your fantasy team so you'll have that going for you, which is nice.

can i get some advice here without getting kicked to the AC forum? would you drop Nate burelson for him in a .5 ppr? I am guessing you would....

 

[need2know]

Obviously, the concussion issue is a big one. But other multiple-concussion receivers, like Greg Jennings, don't seem to be sliding all the way down draft boards because of concussion concerns.

I would prefer a player with less upside that does not have his concussion issues. .

So, with your 15th round pick or 5th WR spot on your bench, you'd prefer a lower-upside guy? Really? I think it usually makes more sense to go for upside, since there are always plenty of low-upside WRs sitting on the waiver wire.

I don't think he will be available that late in most drafts - there seem to always be someone who will take a flier on him a lot earlier than the 15th round.

hes actually on the wire in both my leagues...

 

[steveski]

To me he's a no-brainer (ahem) pickup as the last guy on your bench, especially in a PPR league. Use your non-concussed heads, people! He's a top 30 WR easily with the potential to be top 10-20.I say start him while he's still alive. If he does happen to die on the field, the tragedy will serve as an inspiration to the rest of the players on your fantasy team so you'll have that going for you, which is nice.

can i get some advice here without getting kicked to the AC forum? would you drop Nate burelson for him in a .5 ppr? I am guessing you would....

Yes and without even batting an eye.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Obviously, the concussion issue is a big one. But other multiple-concussion receivers, like Greg Jennings, don't seem to be sliding all the way down draft boards because of concussion concerns.

I would prefer a player with less upside that does not have his concussion issues. .

So, with your 15th round pick or 5th WR spot on your bench, you'd prefer a lower-upside guy? Really? I think it usually makes more sense to go for upside, since there are always plenty of low-upside WRs sitting on the waiver wire.

I don't think he will be available that late in most drafts - there seem to always be someone who will take a flier on him a lot earlier than the 15th round.

His ADP was around pick 165. Pretty late.

 

[parrot]

Obviously, the concussion issue is a big one. But other multiple-concussion receivers, like Greg Jennings, don't seem to be sliding all the way down draft boards because of concussion concerns.

I would prefer a player with less upside that does not have his concussion issues. .

So, with your 15th round pick or 5th WR spot on your bench, you'd prefer a lower-upside guy? Really? I think it usually makes more sense to go for upside, since there are always plenty of low-upside WRs sitting on the waiver wire.

I don't think he will be available that late in most drafts - there seem to always be someone who will take a flier on him a lot earlier than the 15th round.

hes actually on the wire in both my leagues...

He's available in my 14 teamer. I'm considering dropping David Wilson for him.

 

[need2know]

Obviously, the concussion issue is a big one. But other multiple-concussion receivers, like Greg Jennings, don't seem to be sliding all the way down draft boards because of concussion concerns.

I would prefer a player with less upside that does not have his concussion issues. .

So, with your 15th round pick or 5th WR spot on your bench, you'd prefer a lower-upside guy? Really? I think it usually makes more sense to go for upside, since there are always plenty of low-upside WRs sitting on the waiver wire.

I don't think he will be available that late in most drafts - there seem to always be someone who will take a flier on him a lot earlier than the 15th round.

hes actually on the wire in both my leagues...

He's available in my 14 teamer. I'm considering dropping David Wilson for him.

i would not do that. give wilson half a chance jeez

 

[parrot]

Obviously, the concussion issue is a big one. But other multiple-concussion receivers, like Greg Jennings, don't seem to be sliding all the way down draft boards because of concussion concerns.

I would prefer a player with less upside that does not have his concussion issues. .

So, with your 15th round pick or 5th WR spot on your bench, you'd prefer a lower-upside guy? Really? I think it usually makes more sense to go for upside, since there are always plenty of low-upside WRs sitting on the waiver wire.

I don't think he will be available that late in most drafts - there seem to always be someone who will take a flier on him a lot earlier than the 15th round.

hes actually on the wire in both my leagues...

He's available in my 14 teamer. I'm considering dropping David Wilson for him.

i would not do that. give wilson half a chance jeez

I probably won't, just debating it. I'm deeper at RB than WR is part of it.

 

[need2know]

Obviously, the concussion issue is a big one. But other multiple-concussion receivers, like Greg Jennings, don't seem to be sliding all the way down draft boards because of concussion concerns.

I would prefer a player with less upside that does not have his concussion issues. .

So, with your 15th round pick or 5th WR spot on your bench, you'd prefer a lower-upside guy? Really? I think it usually makes more sense to go for upside, since there are always plenty of low-upside WRs sitting on the waiver wire.

I don't think he will be available that late in most drafts - there seem to always be someone who will take a flier on him a lot earlier than the 15th round.

hes actually on the wire in both my leagues...

He's available in my 14 teamer. I'm considering dropping David Wilson for him.

i would not do that. give wilson half a chance jeez

I probably won't, just debating it. I'm deeper at RB than WR is part of it.

i hear you. my team is the same but i am not dropping any of my rbs for him

 

[eric rymer]

Obviously, the concussion issue is a big one. But other multiple-concussion receivers, like Greg Jennings, don't seem to be sliding all the way down draft boards because of concussion concerns.

I would prefer a player with less upside that does not have his concussion issues. .

So, with your 15th round pick or 5th WR spot on your bench, you'd prefer a lower-upside guy? Really? I think it usually makes more sense to go for upside, since there are always plenty of low-upside WRs sitting on the waiver wire.

I don't think he will be available that late in most drafts - there seem to always be someone who will take a flier on him a lot earlier than the 15th round.

hes actually on the wire in both my leagues...

He's available in my 14 teamer. I'm considering dropping David Wilson for him.

 

[Chigurh]

To me he's a no-brainer (ahem) pickup as the last guy on your bench, especially in a PPR league. Use your non-concussed heads, people! He's a top 30 WR easily with the potential to be top 10-20.I say start him while he's still alive. If he does happen to die on the field, the tragedy will serve as an inspiration to the rest of the players on your fantasy team so you'll have that going for you, which is nice.

can i get some advice here without getting kicked to the AC forum? would you drop Nate burelson for him in a .5 ppr? I am guessing you would....

Yes and without even batting an eye.

But to the guy thinking about dropping David Wilson.

 

[MAC_32]

A lot of ### hattery replies in here. I agree that he's a top 20 WR if he stays healthy, but the public has short memories. He didn't finish 2010, didn't produce in 2011, and has concussion issues. This is why he is valued like he is. I have him everywhere because of his upside and his price and have no idea how he'll finish because no one has any idea how his head will respond. Weekly starter potential though, as long as he's healthy, and costs nothing to find out.

 

[donkshow]

After 6 games in 2010 (I know, just over 1/3 of the season only) he was on pace for: 1341 yards, 16 TDs, 117 receptions.

Again, just 6 games, but that's a beastly statline before his injury (503 yards, 6 TDs, 44 receptions)

 

[FF Ninja]

Sorry man, but all you are doing is saying "I predict he doesn't get hurt". Everyone knows he is a top 20 WR if healthy with Luck throwing him the ball, but he has been down graded because of the concussion worries.

I don't think this is true. WR2 with a rookie QB? I really like Collie and I wouldn't bet on him to be a top 20 WR in any format even with the health stipulation. Collie + Manning = healthy top 20Collie + Luck = ???I think this does qualify as bold. But it belongs in the bold predictions thread.

collie is welker-lite. Luck is prolly better than manning has been in the last 3 years. do the math.

Neither statement is true and there is no math.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Sounds like Collie is very questionable for this weekend, unfortunately. Hopefully the new helmet will keep him healthy.