Predictions on Peterson's Suspension this yr (1 Viewer)

[chinawildman]

Here's some tea leaf reading for you:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2203504-vikings-coaching-staff-will-not-start-bridgewater-with-peterson-absent

Jason Cole said he spoke with a Minny coach saying that they will not start Bridgewater until Peterson is back... implying that at the very least, they don't plan on cutting AP in the offseason. Also note that Cole was one that delivered the "insider info" before the Vikings immediately reinstated Peterson that the feeling was they would wait roughly 2 weeks to "let the whole thing blow over" before acting. That time has already come and gone so take that FWIW, but this Bridgewater update was not released until Thursday.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Trading Peterson remains an option, as it relieves the Vikings of their salary obligation and transfers it to a new team. But executing a trade requires finding a partner that's not only willing to deal with the negative PR, but also has the required cap space. Based on my estimates, the only teams financially capable of executing the trade are the Jaguars, Jets, Browns, Eagles, Titans, Bengals and maybe Patriots.

just sayin

 

[fourd]

Here's some tea leaf reading for you:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2203504-vikings-coaching-staff-will-not-start-bridgewater-with-peterson-absent

Jason Cole said he spoke with a Minny coach saying that they will not start Bridgewater until Peterson is back... implying that at the very least, they don't plan on cutting AP in the offseason. Also note that Cole was one that delivered the "insider info" before the Vikings immediately reinstated Peterson that the feeling was they would wait roughly 2 weeks to "let the whole thing blow over" before acting. That time has already come and gone so take that FWIW, but this Bridgewater update was not released until Thursday.

Not really what was said. "Probably" not want to start Bridgewater until Peterson is back was the quote. And how that implies anything about next year is a stretch.

ETA I'm surprised you used an article with a headline that is not accurate after your prior posts.

 

[chinawildman]

Here's some tea leaf reading for you:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2203504-vikings-coaching-staff-will-not-start-bridgewater-with-peterson-absent

Jason Cole said he spoke with a Minny coach saying that they will not start Bridgewater until Peterson is back... implying that at the very least, they don't plan on cutting AP in the offseason. Also note that Cole was one that delivered the "insider info" before the Vikings immediately reinstated Peterson that the feeling was they would wait roughly 2 weeks to "let the whole thing blow over" before acting. That time has already come and gone so take that FWIW, but this Bridgewater update was not released until Thursday.

Not really what was said. "Probably" not want to start Bridgewater until Peterson is back was the quote. And how that implies anything about next year is a stretch.

ETA I'm surprised you used an article with a headline that is not accurate after your prior posts.

Does it really make any difference whether he said "he will not" vs. "he probably will not"? It's completely besides the point I was making. The fact that he mentions Peterson as a factor at all in the decision process means they expect him to be back with the Vikings in some capacity at some time.

Take it for FWIW. The poster above me was looking for some news. You can nitpick my analysis to satisfy some weird grudge, or actually contribute some useful info... or not, the choice is yours.

 

[chinawildman]

More conjecture and rumors from "sources" according to Jason Cole...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2207043-sources-close-to-adrian-peterson-believe-he-will-return-to-vikings-this-season

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

isn't the new policy written to wait for the legal system to run its course? I don't know if child abuse falls in there or not but I don't believe the new policy allows for immediate suspensions from the league. I don't expect him to get much time either way. I think the texts he sent actually help him because they 'somewhat' back up his story about it being an accident and he showed remorse. hard to say though because the timing is the definition of awful.

The thing is that Due Process does not need to occur since Peterson has admitted he did it. The pics speak for themselves of the severity of the beating he gave the child. The texts he sent acknowledge that he knows he went too far. Even though his intent at the start of the punishment may not have been to physically hurt his child he admitted he went too far, he let his rage get the best of him. He lost control. Because of that he will be punished both by the courts and by the Vikings/NFL for his actions. I don't believe a lifetime suspension will be in order but a year long one certainly coupled with a heavy dose of counseling.

He admitted to doing something that is legal in the state he did it.

Not according the child's doctor or the grand jury that indited him.

Right. I keep hearing about it being "legal" in Texas.

What he did wasn't legal in Texas. That's like saying driving a car is legal. Driving 100 mph in a school zone is not legal.

This is a world of trouble for Peterson. I have no more insight than anyone here. And predicting league suspensions has now become almost impossible.

I would expect the league to hand down a minimum of 6 games. Maybe much more. But again, this is just speculation on my part.

J

Only a Texas court can determine if it was legal or not. Until then, we are all guessing.

We actually don't even know if or how he's going to be charged yet.

But this is about more than the legal system. Texas courts do not determine his availability to play in the NFL. Ray Rice beat the legal system.

J

However - the NFL is using the excuse that it is going to await the results of the legal system to decide how to handle Peterson. So it sounds like Peterson stays inactive on the exempt list as long as he is in legal limbo... which is why Peterson is now trying to get his day in court sped up up so he can force the issue on the NFL during the 2014 season and (as he likely thinks) he can play again this year.

 

[KellysHeroes]

isn't the new policy written to wait for the legal system to run its course? I don't know if child abuse falls in there or not but I don't believe the new policy allows for immediate suspensions from the league. I don't expect him to get much time either way. I think the texts he sent actually help him because they 'somewhat' back up his story about it being an accident and he showed remorse. hard to say though because the timing is the definition of awful.

The thing is that Due Process does not need to occur since Peterson has admitted he did it. The pics speak for themselves of the severity of the beating he gave the child. The texts he sent acknowledge that he knows he went too far. Even though his intent at the start of the punishment may not have been to physically hurt his child he admitted he went too far, he let his rage get the best of him. He lost control. Because of that he will be punished both by the courts and by the Vikings/NFL for his actions. I don't believe a lifetime suspension will be in order but a year long one certainly coupled with a heavy dose of counseling.

He admitted to doing something that is legal in the state he did it.

Not according the child's doctor or the grand jury that indited him.

Right. I keep hearing about it being "legal" in Texas.

What he did wasn't legal in Texas. That's like saying driving a car is legal. Driving 100 mph in a school zone is not legal.

This is a world of trouble for Peterson. I have no more insight than anyone here. And predicting league suspensions has now become almost impossible.

I would expect the league to hand down a minimum of 6 games. Maybe much more. But again, this is just speculation on my part.

J

Only a Texas court can determine if it was legal or not. Until then, we are all guessing.

We actually don't even know if or how he's going to be charged yet.

But this is about more than the legal system. Texas courts do not determine his availability to play in the NFL. Ray Rice beat the legal system.

J

However - the NFL is using the excuse that it is going to await the results of the legal system to decide how to handle Peterson. So it sounds like Peterson stays inactive on the exempt list as long as he is in legal limbo... which is why Peterson is now trying to get his day in court sped up up so he can force the issue on the NFL during the 2014 season and (as he likely thinks) he can play again this year.

I honestly don't even know why Peterson is bothering, even if found not guilty the NFL is going to roast him

 

[RichInOrlando]

Maybe his mindset is the sooner he gets this behind him, the sooner he has to separate the incident from the next time he plays (whether it be next year or late this year).

 

[cstu]

Maybe his mindset is the sooner he gets this behind him, the sooner he has to separate the incident from the next time he plays (whether it be next year or late this year).

I think he's coming to the realization that he's done in Minnesota and wants to have a clean slate when he starts looking for a free agent contract. Even if he doesn't play this year it's better to have the trial over with so he can focus on 2015.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Minny wants him, or would they try to reinstate him last week?

 

[menobrown]

Maybe his mindset is the sooner he gets this behind him, the sooner he has to separate the incident from the next time he plays (whether it be next year or late this year).

I think he's coming to the realization that he's done in Minnesota and wants to have a clean slate when he starts looking for a free agent contract. Even if he doesn't play this year it's better to have the trial over with so he can focus on 2015.

The way Ian Rappaport summed it up in his tweet about him wanting to expedite was something I thought pretty telling. He phrased it as AP wanted an expedited trial in an attempt to force Minnesota's hand. I took that as AP wanting to get to the point he forces Minny to reinstate him or cut him.

If AP is found guilty can the Vikings cut him and ask for portion of his signing bonus back? If so, in light of the fact that his endorsements are drying up and for all we know he may get blackballed out of the NFL it might behoove him to not expedite the trial so at a minimum he can get his entire pay this year and minimize the amount of the potential signing bonus payback.

On another note I read this weekend someone asked Emmit Smith if anyone could break his record. He said "Adrian Peterson, he was the only one, but not any more".

 

[chinawildman]

If AP cops to a plea by his first hearing (early oct) then gets suspended 6 weeks, he would still make it back in time for FF playoffs. So in essence he is the RB version of Josh Gordon during the period when nobody knew whether the drug policy could affect Gordon's suspension. If Gordon was worth a stash, then why not AP?

Assuming he does actually make it back this season, you essentially have AP with fresh legs running against some tired defenses in the late part of the season. Sounds like a worthy flyer to me.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

If AP cops to a plea by his first hearing (early oct) then gets suspended 6 weeks, he would still make it back in time for FF playoffs. So in essence he is the RB version of Josh Gordon during the period when nobody knew whether the drug policy could affect Gordon's suspension. If Gordon was worth a stash, then why not AP?

Assuming he does actually make it back this season, you essentially have AP with fresh legs running against some tired defenses in the late part of the season. Sounds like a worthy flyer to me.

Bumping for fresh perspective on Peterson.

This was my thinking, the problem being that you have to make it to the playoffs to begin with. I think there is about a 25% chance or less Peterson plays again this season, but even with that probability, that's dead weight to hold for a long time.

Knowing that risk, I dropped him today with first waiver claim along with my bye D to shore up my squad for the mid-term. Was able to snag McKinnon (dropped by a RB-heavy team for bye coverage at WR) and Forsett.

Point isn't about my team -- it's that even if Peterson plays, I think it's a better strategy to drop him now -- even if he immediately gets snapped up -- if you are able to improve your squad to put you in the playoff hunt. Got to be in it to win it.

 

[andyk803]

^^^ I agree

I think i'm probably the only one that is still hanging on to him lol

I'm 2-2 in my PPR league with a RB depth. The guy that is currently in 1st place has absolutely no RB whatsoever. His starting RBs are Kniles Davis and MJD lol. I might just trade him Peterson for his Josh Gordon since I have no WRs

My RBs:

Ball

Gio

Bradshaw

Vereen

Asiata

McKinnon

AP

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Peterson now down to 86% owned in CBS. Still high.

 

[lod01]

Way too high since his scheduled date for trial is Dec. 1. Pipe dream at best of him coming back to play this year.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Peterson at 91% (CBS on 10/1); then 86% on 10/8; now 70% owned.

 

[Johnny Rock]

I'm still holding in redraft but I'm finally starting to waver. What are you other redrafter's doing?

 

[jtd13]

I'm still holding in redraft but I'm finally starting to waver. What are you other redrafter's doing?

cut him last week. Hasn't been picked up.

 

[jeaton6]

He's worthless in redraft guys. His trial starts AFTER week 13. Do you think the trial is going to finish in one day and then he's going to hit the practice field and be ready to go 4 days later?