Preseason W1 Game Thread - Bills V Redskins (1 Viewer)

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Game is starting now live on NFL Network:

Mike Patrick and Joe Theismann calling it:

 

[mightyeskimo]

Will we see Kelly or Thomas for WAS? Will we see Hardy for BUF?

 

[Dudley Dawson]

redskins fumble opening kick-off

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Will we see Kelly or Thomas for WAS? Will we see Hardy for BUF?

I think Kelly and Thomas are out but Hardy is expected to play.some more info from Today's Buffalo News:

Tonight will be the first game for an offensive line that experienced a bit of a shake-up due to the prolonged holdout of disgruntled left tackle Jason Peters. Langston Walker gets the start at left tackle, while Kirk Chambers will man Walker’s original spot on the right side.The most hotly contested position on offense is tight end, where incumbent Robert Royal is trying to hold off second-year pro Derek Schouman for the starting job.The competition is still up for grabs as both players have split snaps with the first-team offense in training camp. That will be the case tonight as well, but Courtney Anderson and rookie Derek Fine also are going to have a chance to make an impression on the coaches.On the injury front, wide receiver Josh Reed (lower back), linebacker Angelo Crowell (knee), strong safety Donte Whitner (ankle) and defensive end Copeland Bryan (hamstring) did not make the trip. Tight end Tim Massaquoi is doubtful with a sore groin.Crowell returned earlier this week, but sat out Thursday after he had more swelling in his ailing left knee after Wednesday’s practice.

 

[T Bell]

Marcus Mason can't do that and make the roster, especially given that his primary role will be special teams.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Hardy started the game. #81. That's a really big WR.

 

[T Bell]

Will we see Kelly or Thomas for WAS? Will we see Hardy for BUF?

I think Kelly and Thomas are out but Hardy is expected to play.

Correct.

 

[Fedor Emelianenko]

Marcus Mason can't do that and make the roster, especially given that his primary role will be special teams.

this is great posting, exactly why i come to the shark pool.

 

[The Ref]

OK Campbell - do well, but not *VERY* well.

 

[The Ref]

I honestly think the redskins passing attack is one of the most under rated teams in FF this preseason.

 

[T Bell]

The more I'm watchin the offense this preseason, the more I"m wondering whether Antwaan Randle El is going to be used as the Redskins' version of Wes Welker.

 

[BigRed]

What's up w/the throwback uniforms?

 

[RockHard]

Has Chris Cooley been in the game yet. All of their sets appeared to be 3WR.

 

[T Bell]

Has Chris Cooley been in the game yet. All of their sets appeared to be 3WR.

Don't freak out. They're just running some different packages. Cooley and Portis are the two "safest" players from that offense for fantasy purposes this year.

 

[The Ref]

The more I'm watchin the offense this preseason, the more I"m wondering whether Antwaan Randle El is going to be used as the Redskins' version of Wes Welker.

He is WR64 in the 8/1 excel VBD tool using standard PPR scoring. I think thats a theft. Moss at WR29 isn't much better.

 

[The Ref]

I know it's better then 50/50 that it's not a catch, but do you really need a challange in the first preseason game?

 

[T Bell]

I know it's better then 50/50 that it's not a catch, but do you really need a challange in the first preseason game?

Without the tipped pass, I doubt the challenge happens.

 

[BigRed]

lol - Thrash is still in the league?

 

[T Bell]

lol - Thrash is still in the league?

He's made a career out of special teams play and 3rd down catches. Every coach through Washington has loved him. Hardest worker on the team.

 

[BigRed]

'bout that upncoming BUF D :IBTL:

 

[omally]

For those who can see the game, how is Jason Campbell looking?

 

[The Ref]

Somebody wake me up when Campbell has his fourth incomplete pass pf the preseason.

Edit because I can't add.

 

[T Bell]

For those who can see the game, how is Jason Campbell looking?

He looks good - pretty much more of the same from the Indy game. I like how he's going through projections, checking down, etc. He looks comfortable, and his throws are accurate.

 

[omally]

He looks good - pretty much more of the same from the Indy game. I like how he's going through projections, checking down, etc. He looks comfortable, and his throws are accurate.

Thanks.

 

[T Bell]

Campbell and the starters are out now.

Betts looks really good - quick, strong and decisive in his cuts.

Rinehart is also plowing - I love that draft pick.

 

[PantherPower]

I know its only preseason, but the Skins have looked VERY impressive so far this year. Zorn is SO much better a play caller than Gibbs. Its like night and day. Campbell looks good, Portis looked good, the WRs are catching almost everything thrown their way. Lynch had very little room to run. And Hardy looks HUGE.

 

[fatness]

The Redskins, even in preseason with 2nd and 3rd stringers on the field, look more organized than they ever did under Joe Gibbs. The offense lines up, runs the play, knows where to be, and keeps moving the ball.

Clinton Portis clearly is running rusty but still running well. The 4th down decision to go for it and to give it to him was a good call. It let the team see they could punch it in, and believe they could punch it in, something they had trouble with under Gibbs.

Redskins WR's blocking well down the field. So is Chad Rinehart, who made the last block 10 yards downfield before Betts scored his TD.

Redskins seem to be able to run at will, both inside and out. The pass sets up the run very well.

Billy McMullen actually looks like he's acquired the ability to catch a ball with his hands. Collins completed one to him in the middle of 5 defenders, and if he doesn't come down with it it is a sure INT.

Thrash clearly understands the offense, is right where he's supposed to be, and will make the team, probably as WR#3 to start the year.

Buffalo needs to paint the buffalo on their helmet a different color. It looks awful.

 

[fatness]

For those who can see the game, how is Jason Campbell looking?

Quick. Organized. Making decisions quickly.

 

[PantherPower]

wonder if Colt will play the entire 3rd quarter if not 2nd half...

 

[PantherPower]

nice TD by Hardy. I think Burress, Randy, and Calvin may be the only guys that look as big as he does in the league right now...

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

nice TD catch by Hardy from Losman

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Buffalo needs to paint the buffalo on their helmet a different color. It looks awful.

 

[T Bell]

nice TD catch by Hardy from Losman

There was great coverage (at least in terms of body position) but Hardy found the ball and grabbed it. That throw might have been better - I would think that they'd want it up higher for Hardy to get, but it was otherwise accurate. I'm sure they want to feed Hardy a lot of those this year.

 

[buster c]

Buffalo needs to paint the buffalo on their helmet a different color. It looks awful.

I was with you until this. The Bill uni is a classic.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Up until that TD catch Hardy had looked real bad.

 

[T Bell]

Buffalo needs to paint the buffalo on their helmet a different color. It looks awful.

I was with you until this. The Bill uni is a classic.

Yeah, I kind of like them even better than the current ones. I'm a sucker for (most) throwbacks though. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.

 

[massraider]

Posluzny is going to be a tackle machine.

 

[Marc Levin]

The more I'm watchin the offense this preseason, the more I"m wondering whether Antwaan Randle El is going to be used as the Redskins' version of Wes Welker.

He is WR64 in the 8/1 excel VBD tool using standard PPR scoring. I think thats a theft. Moss at WR29 isn't much better.

I love A R-EThe problem I see with the skins offense I outlined a few weeks ago - it isn't Campbell, it is the depth at WR. They worked to Thrash a lot and I came away unimpressed. Apparently Malcolm Kelly is hurting a bit right now? I was very interested in seeing the third Wash receiver.Campbell's passes were in control, he was in command of the offense, and he made very good decisions - checking down when there was nothing downfield and using his outlet if the progressions failed, and making nice downfield throws when they were there. And he received a good amount of playing time.The running game looked great.The Bills' first unit appeared to make quite a few mental errors. I donlt think their talent level is really lal that far back, but they did not play cohesive, smart ball so far tonight.

 

[Marc Levin]

Buffalo needs to paint the buffalo on their helmet a different color. It looks awful.

I was with you until this. The Bill uni is a classic.

Yeah, I kind of like them even better than the current ones. I'm a sucker for (most) throwbacks though. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.

The Bills classic is easily as good looking as the modern one - I actually like all the Bills uniforms (classic and modern, home and away colors) - and I'm a phin fan.

 

[The Ref]

The more I'm watchin the offense this preseason, the more I"m wondering whether Antwaan Randle El is going to be used as the Redskins' version of Wes Welker.

He is WR64 in the 8/1 excel VBD tool using standard PPR scoring. I think thats a theft. Moss at WR29 isn't much better.

Campbell's passes were in control, he was in command of the offense, and he made very good decisions - checking down when there was nothing downfield and using his outlet if the progressions failed, and making nice downfield throws when they were there. And he received a good amount of playing time.

"QBBC" this year has Campbell as the main QB - The way he has looked so far, he might just be the "C" all by himself.

 

[fatness]

The problem I see with the skins offense I outlined a few weeks ago - it isn't Campbell, it is the depth at WR. They worked to Thrash a lot and I came away unimpressed. Apparently Malcolm Kelly is hurting a bit right now? I was very interested in seeing the third Wash receiver.

Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas have both been hurt for a couple weeks. Given their lack of playing time in the preseason and rookie status, Thrash will open the season at WR#3.

 

[fatness]

Buffalo needs to paint the buffalo on their helmet a different color. It looks awful.

I was with you until this. The Bill uni is a classic.

The entire uniform looks great. But the red buffalo ruins it, it's just awful. Even if they trimmed the buffalo in blue it would vastly improve it. It looks like it was drawn by a third grader. pic I guess if it's a throwback uniform they can't really change it though. But some parts of throwback uniforms look, um, bad; plenty of people didn't like the Redskins mustard uniforms last year.

Stay tuned for more of "Fabulous Uniform Makeovers".

 

[buster c]

Buffalo needs to paint the buffalo on their helmet a different color. It looks awful.

I was with you until this. The Bill uni is a classic.

The entire uniform looks great. But the red buffalo ruins it, it's just awful. Even if they trimmed the buffalo in blue it would vastly improve it. It looks like it was drawn by a third grader. pic I guess if it's a throwback uniform they can't really change it though. But some parts of throwback uniforms look, um, bad; plenty of people didn't like the Redskins mustard uniforms last year.

Stay tuned for more of "Fabulous Uniform Makeovers".

the problem with the Bill uni started when they messed with the classic red buffalo in 1976 (thank you google image search), changing the color to blue with a red slash and making the buffalo appear as if it were in motion. but they've ruined the look even further, and the modern Bill uni ranks amongst the worst in the league, without question

 

[King of the Jungle]

Buffalo's poor run blocking is tempering my enthusiasm of Lynch this season.

 

[doubletrouble]

and w/ Trent " I can't throw down field" Edwards won't help either....

 

[fatness]

Best play of the game was Clinton "I hate to play in the preseason" Portis picking up a blitzing DB, knocking the guy about 2-3 yards backwards, and pumping his fist after the play was over.

 

[ScottyFargo]

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Will we see Kelly or Thomas for WAS? Will we see Hardy for BUF?

I think Kelly and Thomas are out but Hardy is expected to play.some more info from Today's Buffalo News:

Tonight will be the first game for an offensive line that experienced a bit of a shake-up due to the prolonged holdout of disgruntled left tackle Jason Peters. Langston Walker gets the start at left tackle, while Kirk Chambers will man Walker’s original spot on the right side.

The most hotly contested position on offense is tight end, where incumbent Robert Royal is trying to hold off second-year pro Derek Schouman for the starting job.

The competition is still up for grabs as both players have split snaps with the first-team offense in training camp. That will be the case tonight as well, but Courtney Anderson and rookie Derek Fine also are going to have a chance to make an impression on the coaches.

On the injury front, wide receiver Josh Reed (lower back), linebacker Angelo Crowell (knee), strong safety Donte Whitner (ankle) and defensive end Copeland Bryan (hamstring) did not make the trip. Tight end Tim Massaquoi is doubtful with a sore groin.

Crowell returned earlier this week, but sat out Thursday after he had more swelling in his ailing left knee after Wednesday’s practice.

 

[T Bell]

Buffalo needs to paint the buffalo on their helmet a different color. It looks awful.

I was with you until this. The Bill uni is a classic.

The entire uniform looks great. But the red buffalo ruins it, it's just awful. Even if they trimmed the buffalo in blue it would vastly improve it. It looks like it was drawn by a third grader. pic I guess if it's a throwback uniform they can't really change it though. But some parts of throwback uniforms look, um, bad; plenty of people didn't like the Redskins mustard uniforms last year.

Stay tuned for more of "Fabulous Uniform Makeovers".

It looks like a Buffalo to me.

 

[T Bell]

Best play of the game was Clinton "I hate to play in the preseason" Portis picking up a blitzing DB, knocking the guy about 2-3 yards backwards, and pumping his fist after the play was over.

Despite what Clinton says about preseason, he clearly was rusty on his first few touches, but he quickly warmed to the task. And yeah, I simply love watching him pick up the blitz. I almost pity an opposing rookie DB coming on a blitz in the preseason only to find Clinton filling the hole. Almost.

 

[T Bell]

The more I'm watchin the offense this preseason, the more I"m wondering whether Antwaan Randle El is going to be used as the Redskins' version of Wes Welker.

He is WR64 in the 8/1 excel VBD tool using standard PPR scoring. I think thats a theft. Moss at WR29 isn't much better.

I love A R-EThe problem I see with the skins offense I outlined a few weeks ago - it isn't Campbell, it is the depth at WR. They worked to Thrash a lot and I came away unimpressed. Apparently Malcolm Kelly is hurting a bit right now? I was very interested in seeing the third Wash receiver.

As others have said, they've got an injury problem there presently as the two rookies, Thomas and Kelly, are getting over injuries (Thomas: hammy; Kelly: scoped knee). This is a problem that should get better as they recover and start making up for lost training camp time. I agree though, in the short term they've got some limited personnel options at WR while they wait for those two guys to recover and get up to speed. Also, Fred Davis is looking like the real deal as a NFL TE, perhaps on his way to being another Cooley. While possibly not good news in fantasy (TEBC? ) long term, in 2008 I think his development means that Cooley will be freed up to be a de facto 3rd receiving option with Moss and Randle El on the field. When the rookies return, I think ARE will spend a good amount of time in the slot, which is probably where he belongs anyway, and that's why I'm starting to wonder whether he'll be the Redskins' version of Wes Welker.