Presidential Debate Thread - Obama vs. Romney (1 Viewer)

[gcoast3]

Bottom Line. When you wake up tomorrow...

Gas Prices are ?

Unemployment ?

How much does the USA owe?

 

[MaxThreshold]

I think a key deficiency for Romney going down the stretch will be the lack of specifics on the deduction and loophole issue. Romney is running with an n dollar deduction cap, but uses different numbers each time. Giving everyone a pony is going to cost real dollars. It's trickle down logic, and deserves to be discussed as such. There is no guarantee of magic growth in this structure.

hang on here, you guys were perfectly fine with "hope and change" and no specifics in 2008, but now you're going to expect the other guy to provide you details? Forget it, you clearly shouted out that you didn't care about details when you cast that vote.

The discussion on taxes in 2008 was about Bush tax cuts and whether to keep them or let them expire. Obama has extended them largely due to the political-fueled perception that we can't raise a marginal rate a scant few percent. He wants to end them now.Mitt is asking Americans to buy into a 20% across the board cut in tax rates for everyone. This will cost approximately $4.8 trillion over ten years. A plan this audacious requires a discussion of math. Sorry.

You just don't understand it, Picks. Trust him, it'll work.

That's what you did for Obama in 2008. Remember "hope and change" - well we are all paying for that now. Why are you demanding details now?

 

[HellToupee]

both the RNC & DNC chairmen are creeps

Geoffrey Neale LP Chair

I think I gave that guy a wedgie in high school

 

[Mr. Pickles]

I think a key deficiency for Romney going down the stretch will be the lack of specifics on the deduction and loophole issue. Romney is running with an n dollar deduction cap, but uses different numbers each time. Giving everyone a pony is going to cost real dollars. It's trickle down logic, and deserves to be discussed as such. There is no guarantee of magic growth in this structure.

hang on here, you guys were perfectly fine with "hope and change" and no specifics in 2008, but now you're going to expect the other guy to provide you details? Forget it, you clearly shouted out that you didn't care about details when you cast that vote.

The discussion on taxes in 2008 was about Bush tax cuts and whether to keep them or let them expire. Obama has extended them largely due to the political-fueled perception that we can't raise a marginal rate a scant few percent. He wants to end them now.Mitt is asking Americans to buy into a 20% across the board cut in tax rates for everyone. This will cost approximately $4.8 trillion over ten years. A plan this audacious requires a discussion of math. Sorry.

You just don't understand it, Picks. Trust him, it'll work.

Really? We are concerned about 5 trillion over 10 years??

Of course we are. Mitt is too. He just thinks the math automatically works by campaign assertion, and some blog posts.

 

[MaxThreshold]

OB spoke for 44 minutes and Mitt spoke for 40.Mod jumped in and lied to protect OB.

Romney won the debate, despite it being 2 against 1. Well done, Mitt.

WAIT. Wait wait wait. Honest question: do you really believe Mitt won this debate?Those of us who think Mitt is a schmuck could still fairly admit that he won the first debate. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind could claim that Obama didn't win this.

Yes, he did. What's surprising is that you actually think Obama won. he got steamrolled by Jobs and the Economy from Romney.

 

[Otis]

Bottom Line. When you wake up tomorrow...Gas Prices are ?Unemployment ?How much does the USA owe?

Clearly all circumstances that resulted only from the past 3 years. What happened before that is totally irrelevant.

 

[Otis]

OB spoke for 44 minutes and Mitt spoke for 40.Mod jumped in and lied to protect OB.

Romney won the debate, despite it being 2 against 1. Well done, Mitt.

WAIT. Wait wait wait. Honest question: do you really believe Mitt won this debate?Those of us who think Mitt is a schmuck could still fairly admit that he won the first debate. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind could claim that Obama didn't win this.

Yes, he did. What's surprising is that you actually think Obama won. he got steamrolled by Jobs and the Economy from Romney.

You guys are certifiable. I mean that in a very serious way.

 

[chet]

OB spoke for 44 minutes and Mitt spoke for 40.Mod jumped in and lied to protect OB.

Romney won the debate, despite it being 2 against 1. Well done, Mitt.

WAIT. Wait wait wait. Honest question: do you really believe Mitt won this debate?Those of us who think Mitt is a schmuck could still fairly admit that he won the first debate. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind could claim that Obama didn't win this.

I said above that I really think it was a draw. It just seems like an OB victory because he actually showed up. No KO punches by either and supporters will find something from their candidates to say they won. I haven't heard commentary from any of the right leaning media so I don't know what they're saying.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

I think a key deficiency for Romney going down the stretch will be the lack of specifics on the deduction and loophole issue. Romney is running with an n dollar deduction cap, but uses different numbers each time. Giving everyone a pony is going to cost real dollars. It's trickle down logic, and deserves to be discussed as such. There is no guarantee of magic growth in this structure.

hang on here, you guys were perfectly fine with "hope and change" and no specifics in 2008, but now you're going to expect the other guy to provide you details? Forget it, you clearly shouted out that you didn't care about details when you cast that vote.

The discussion on taxes in 2008 was about Bush tax cuts and whether to keep them or let them expire. Obama has extended them largely due to the political-fueled perception that we can't raise a marginal rate a scant few percent. He wants to end them now.Mitt is asking Americans to buy into a 20% across the board cut in tax rates for everyone. This will cost approximately $4.8 trillion over ten years. A plan this audacious requires a discussion of math. Sorry.

You just don't understand it, Picks. Trust him, it'll work.

That's what you did for Obama in 2008. Remember "hope and change" - well we are all paying for that now. Why are you demanding details now?

You don't seem to be discussing the topic. On taxes, it was well known what Obama wanted to do in 2008. Clear as a bell. In 2012, the tax issue from Romney is murky.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Bottom Line. When you wake up tomorrow...

Gas Prices are ?

Unemployment ?

How much does the USA owe?

Clearly all circumstances that resulted only from the past 3 years. What happened before that is totally irrelevant.

I BLAME GEORGE BUSH! WAAAAAH!

Fixed, for accuracy.

 

[Ursa M]

OB spoke for 44 minutes and Mitt spoke for 40.Mod jumped in and lied to protect OB.

Romney won the debate, despite it being 2 against 1. Well done, Mitt.

WAIT. Wait wait wait. Honest question: do you really believe Mitt won this debate?Those of us who think Mitt is a schmuck could still fairly admit that he won the first debate. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind could claim that Obama didn't win this.

Yes, he did. What's surprising is that you actually think Obama won. he got steamrolled by Jobs and the Economy from Romney.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Bottom Line. When you wake up tomorrow...Gas Prices are ?Unemployment ?How much does the USA owe?

Clearly all circumstances that resulted only from the past 3 years. What happened before that is totally irrelevant.

...and Obama has improved them how in 4 years?

 

[HellToupee]

OB spoke for 44 minutes and Mitt spoke for 40.Mod jumped in and lied to protect OB.

Romney won the debate, despite it being 2 against 1. Well done, Mitt.

WAIT. Wait wait wait. Honest question: do you really believe Mitt won this debate?Those of us who think Mitt is a schmuck could still fairly admit that he won the first debate. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind could claim that Obama didn't win this.

I'd give it to Obama 10-9. Mitt let him off the hook a couple of times & could've hammered him over Libya

 

[honky kong]

OB spoke for 44 minutes and Mitt spoke for 40.

Mod jumped in and lied to protect OB.

Romney won the debate, despite it being 2 against 1. Well done, Mitt.

WAIT. Wait wait wait. Honest question: do you really believe Mitt won this debate?Those of us who think Mitt is a schmuck could still fairly admit that he won the first debate. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind could claim that Obama didn't win this.

The bolded is key.

 

[sporthenry]

Bottom Line. When you wake up tomorrow...Gas Prices are ?Unemployment ?How much does the USA owe?

Gas Prices are determined on the open global market. If you think the President has that much if any sway on the gas prices, you'll be sorely mistaken. If you want prices to go down, you'll have to stop India, China, and Brazil from industrializing. As far as how much US owes? Well they owe most of it to America so it isn't as bad as people claim. China owes 8% of our debt, most of our debt is owed to us Americans. We certainly have to address it but it isn't as pressing as most people think.

 

[chet]

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[RBM]

This thread needs a lot more Willie Nelson.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

OB spoke for 44 minutes and Mitt spoke for 40.Mod jumped in and lied to protect OB.

Romney won the debate, despite it being 2 against 1. Well done, Mitt.

WAIT. Wait wait wait. Honest question: do you really believe Mitt won this debate?Those of us who think Mitt is a schmuck could still fairly admit that he won the first debate. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind could claim that Obama didn't win this.

I'd give it to Obama 10-9. Mitt let him off the hook a couple of times & could've hammered him over Libya

Obama will still get hammered over Libya

 

[drummer]

Bottom Line. When you wake up tomorrow...

Gas Prices are ?

Unemployment ?

How much does the USA owe?

Clearly all circumstances that resulted only from the past 3 years. What happened before that is totally irrelevant.

I BLAME GEORGE BUSH! WAAAAAH!

Fixed, for accuracy.

Someday, you'll be better than this.

 

[HellToupee]

OB spoke for 44 minutes and Mitt spoke for 40.

Mod jumped in and lied to protect OB.

Romney won the debate, despite it being 2 against 1. Well done, Mitt.

WAIT. Wait wait wait. Honest question: do you really believe Mitt won this debate?Those of us who think Mitt is a schmuck could still fairly admit that he won the first debate. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind could claim that Obama didn't win this.

The bolded is key.

kind of like Romney is fading

 

[Slapdash]

Jindal using BoneYardDog shtick on CNN

 

[MaxThreshold]

I think a key deficiency for Romney going down the stretch will be the lack of specifics on the deduction and loophole issue. Romney is running with an n dollar deduction cap, but uses different numbers each time. Giving everyone a pony is going to cost real dollars. It's trickle down logic, and deserves to be discussed as such. There is no guarantee of magic growth in this structure.

hang on here, you guys were perfectly fine with "hope and change" and no specifics in 2008, but now you're going to expect the other guy to provide you details? Forget it, you clearly shouted out that you didn't care about details when you cast that vote.

The discussion on taxes in 2008 was about Bush tax cuts and whether to keep them or let them expire. Obama has extended them largely due to the political-fueled perception that we can't raise a marginal rate a scant few percent. He wants to end them now.Mitt is asking Americans to buy into a 20% across the board cut in tax rates for everyone. This will cost approximately $4.8 trillion over ten years. A plan this audacious requires a discussion of math. Sorry.

You just don't understand it, Picks. Trust him, it'll work.

That's what you did for Obama in 2008. Remember "hope and change" - well we are all paying for that now. Why are you demanding details now?

You don't seem to be discussing the topic. On taxes, it was well known that Obama wanted to do in 2008. Clear as a bell. In 2012, the tax issue from Romney is murky.

Listen, I understand perfectly what you're saying. However, I'm concerned that your asking for specifics about ANYTHING at all since you voted for a flimsy campaign slogan in 2008. Now you're turning around and demanding details from Romeny about everythign under the sun IMO, you don't have any standing to be asking for details. Take it on faith - like you did in 2008. You had no problem then with no details.

BTW: "you" means all of you who voted for Obama.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Bottom Line. When you wake up tomorrow...

Gas Prices are ?

Unemployment ?

How much does the USA owe?

Clearly all circumstances that resulted only from the past 3 years. What happened before that is totally irrelevant.

I BLAME GEORGE BUSH! WAAAAAH!

Fixed, for accuracy.

You ignoring the severe damage GW and his cronies did make you look stupid. When can we talk about the debt, the death and the incompetency? When Romney is in office? Or should we just forget about it? ####### terrible.

 

[RBM]

Bottom Line. When you wake up tomorrow...Gas Prices are ?Unemployment ?How much does the USA owe?

Clearly all circumstances that resulted only from the past 3 years. What happened before that is totally irrelevant.

...and Obama has improved them how in 4 years?

 

[Colin Dowling]

OB spoke for 44 minutes and Mitt spoke for 40.Mod jumped in and lied to protect OB.

Romney won the debate, despite it being 2 against 1. Well done, Mitt.

I didn't realize anyone this clueless knew how to use a computer.

 

[jonessed]

Bottom Line. When you wake up tomorrow...

Gas Prices are ?

Unemployment ?

How much does the USA owe?

Gas Prices are determined on the open global market. If you think the President has that much if any sway on the gas prices, you'll be sorely mistaken. If you want prices to go down, you'll have to stop India, China, and Brazil from industrializing. As far as how much US owes? Well they owe most of it to America so it isn't as bad as people claim. China owes 8% of our debt, most of our debt is owed to us Americans. We certainly have to address it but it isn't as pressing as most people think.

How long do you think these countries have been industrializing?

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I think a key deficiency for Romney going down the stretch will be the lack of specifics on the deduction and loophole issue. Romney is running with an n dollar deduction cap, but uses different numbers each time. Giving everyone a pony is going to cost real dollars. It's trickle down logic, and deserves to be discussed as such. There is no guarantee of magic growth in this structure.

hang on here, you guys were perfectly fine with "hope and change" and no specifics in 2008, but now you're going to expect the other guy to provide you details? Forget it, you clearly shouted out that you didn't care about details when you cast that vote.

The discussion on taxes in 2008 was about Bush tax cuts and whether to keep them or let them expire. Obama has extended them largely due to the political-fueled perception that we can't raise a marginal rate a scant few percent. He wants to end them now.Mitt is asking Americans to buy into a 20% across the board cut in tax rates for everyone. This will cost approximately $4.8 trillion over ten years. A plan this audacious requires a discussion of math. Sorry.

You just don't understand it, Picks. Trust him, it'll work.

Really? We are concerned about 5 trillion over 10 years??

Of course we are. Mitt is too. He just thinks the math automatically works by campaign assertion, and some blog posts.

Oh please. We spend half a billion in an hour.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Jindal using BoneYardDog shtick on CNN

YES! Tape it and fax it to me, I'm watching the beisbol.

 

[chet]

Very interested to see BO's Rose Garden quote.

With any luck, it could turn into a "it depends on what the definition of is is." moment.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

I call a tie.

 

[Fennis]

Bottom Line. When you wake up tomorrow...

Gas Prices are ?

Unemployment ?

How much does the USA owe?

Gas Prices are determined on the open global market. If you think the President has that much if any sway on the gas prices, you'll be sorely mistaken. If you want prices to go down, you'll have to stop India, China, and Brazil from industrializing. As far as how much US owes? Well they owe most of it to America so it isn't as bad as people claim. China owes 8% of our debt, most of our debt is owed to us Americans. We certainly have to address it but it isn't as pressing as most people think.

Thats not really true. We buy much of our oil from a cartel that controls supply and pricing.

 

[honky kong]

OB spoke for 44 minutes and Mitt spoke for 40.

Mod jumped in and lied to protect OB.

Romney won the debate, despite it being 2 against 1. Well done, Mitt.

WAIT. Wait wait wait. Honest question: do you really believe Mitt won this debate?Those of us who think Mitt is a schmuck could still fairly admit that he won the first debate. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind could claim that Obama didn't win this.

The bolded is key.

kind of like Romney is fading

The good part about that is that we'll actually have an answer for it soon. And I actually said his post-debate bump was fading if we're going to be truthful here.

 

[dparker713]

Bottom Line. When you wake up tomorrow...

Gas Prices are ?

Unemployment ?

How much does the USA owe?

Clearly all circumstances that resulted only from the past 3 years. What happened before that is totally irrelevant.

I BLAME GEORGE BUSH! WAAAAAH!

Fixed, for accuracy.

Wow, thats an incredibly childish response.

 

[TarheelBlue]

Government does not create jobs.A+You Obama supporters need to understand the above because it's true and Obama doesn't understand it.

Hey bro, I know its hard to understand, but big business doesn't have your, or anyone but their own interest in mind - ever.

So the fact that government spending has a higher fiscal multiplier than tax breaks? Or the fact that FDR pulled us out of the Great Depression with government spending. Don't let facts get in the way of big fonts though.

Govt spending does not have a higher multiplier than tax breaks. Exact opposite.

 

[HellToupee]

old folks from nevada on Fox

 

[bigbottom]

Why even bother with questions? They just touch on the question for a millisecond and then go right into whatever they want to talk about. This last question. Did they answer the question at all?

When Romney was given the opportunity to correct a misperception about him, I think it was an odd choice to go with "I actually care about 100% of Americans." It may very well be the biggest misconception, but I don't know that it was a good idea for Romney to acknowledge it. "I know that most people think I don't care about the poor and working poor, but I really do!"

 

[cobalt_27]

Bleeding heart libertarian here. Obama miserable, Mitt steady debate one. Obama obliterated Mitt in debate two. If you think differently, you were watching something else.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Very interested to see BO's Rose Garden quote.With any luck, it could turn into a "it depends on what the definition of is is." moment.

Watch for yourself:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3Nu6VZ9DeVcSeriously though, if Obama really believed it was an act of terrorism why was he sending out his cronies to say it was the video for the next couple of weeks? He makes a general reference to terrorism in the video. He never calls this attack an act of terrorism.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Bottom Line. When you wake up tomorrow...

Gas Prices are ?

Unemployment ?

How much does the USA owe?

Clearly all circumstances that resulted only from the past 3 years. What happened before that is totally irrelevant.

I BLAME GEORGE BUSH! WAAAAAH!

Fixed, for accuracy.

You ignoring the severe damage GW and his cronies did make you look stupid. When can we talk about the debt, the death and the incompetency? When Romney is in office? Or should we just forget about it? ####### terrible.

You're kidding with this? You're asking when we can talk about this when it's the only thing the left has been doing since 2000? At what point do you guys take responsibility?

 

[Run It Up]

I would like to distance myself from Jackhole11.

Govt does good things. But you do realize that it's big business, and the incomes paid by big business, that contributes greatly to those programs?

Yes I am aware businesses pay taxes. I'm also aware that given the option they would choose not to pay taxes.

Ok?All I'm saying is that govt is not supplying you. The people are the govt. We supply the govt. One of the main reasons the left promotes bigger govt is that it causes more reliance on the federal govt and obligates those to continue to vote for them.

That may be a broad summation of what you think the left promotes. I can't speak for everyone that is left leaning to whatever degree, but in my opinion, there are things that people have a right to, I'm not gonna argue my interpretation of the constitution, declaration and preamble. But I believe affordable health care and education are on that list. That has to be paid for, and I understand that people don't believe the government to be responsible enough to handle it, but some things have to be done, I've been disappointed with parts of Obama's first term, but I've never been happier about a piece of legislation being passed than when Healthcare reform was passed.Call it what you will.

 

[MaxThreshold]

OB spoke for 44 minutes and Mitt spoke for 40.

Mod jumped in and lied to protect OB.

Romney won the debate, despite it being 2 against 1. Well done, Mitt.

WAIT. Wait wait wait. Honest question: do you really believe Mitt won this debate?Those of us who think Mitt is a schmuck could still fairly admit that he won the first debate. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind could claim that Obama didn't win this.

The bolded is key.

kind of like Romney is fading

The good part about that is that we'll actually have an answer for it soon. And I actually said his post-debate bump was fading if we're going to be truthful here.

and just about every single poll has proven you wrong, regardless of how many times you repeat it to convince yourself.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

This desperate attempt to politicize gas prices is just stupid. Gas tracks oil prices. Gas has always tracked oil prices. You don't like the price of gas? Support moves to get off of it altogether.

 

[phrozen]

guy just said bull#### on fox news

 

[dparker713]

I think a key deficiency for Romney going down the stretch will be the lack of specifics on the deduction and loophole issue. Romney is running with an n dollar deduction cap, but uses different numbers each time. Giving everyone a pony is going to cost real dollars. It's trickle down logic, and deserves to be discussed as such. There is no guarantee of magic growth in this structure.

hang on here, you guys were perfectly fine with "hope and change" and no specifics in 2008, but now you're going to expect the other guy to provide you details? Forget it, you clearly shouted out that you didn't care about details when you cast that vote.

The discussion on taxes in 2008 was about Bush tax cuts and whether to keep them or let them expire. Obama has extended them largely due to the political-fueled perception that we can't raise a marginal rate a scant few percent. He wants to end them now.Mitt is asking Americans to buy into a 20% across the board cut in tax rates for everyone. This will cost approximately $4.8 trillion over ten years. A plan this audacious requires a discussion of math. Sorry.

You just don't understand it, Picks. Trust him, it'll work.

Really? We are concerned about 5 trillion over 10 years??

Of course we are. Mitt is too. He just thinks the math automatically works by campaign assertion, and some blog posts.

Oh please. Its half a billion a year. We spend that in one hour.

Its 500 billion a year btw

 

[HellToupee]

what a crew with Frank Luntz

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Very interested to see BO's Rose Garden quote.With any luck, it could turn into a "it depends on what the definition of is is." moment.

bingo

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

He cares that they'll be "freeloading off the government" and he will put a stop to it. Hope that makes the mouth breathers who "pay for everyone's healthcare" feel better.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I think a key deficiency for Romney going down the stretch will be the lack of specifics on the deduction and loophole issue. Romney is running with an n dollar deduction cap, but uses different numbers each time. Giving everyone a pony is going to cost real dollars. It's trickle down logic, and deserves to be discussed as such. There is no guarantee of magic growth in this structure.

hang on here, you guys were perfectly fine with "hope and change" and no specifics in 2008, but now you're going to expect the other guy to provide you details? Forget it, you clearly shouted out that you didn't care about details when you cast that vote.

The discussion on taxes in 2008 was about Bush tax cuts and whether to keep them or let them expire. Obama has extended them largely due to the political-fueled perception that we can't raise a marginal rate a scant few percent. He wants to end them now.Mitt is asking Americans to buy into a 20% across the board cut in tax rates for everyone. This will cost approximately $4.8 trillion over ten years. A plan this audacious requires a discussion of math. Sorry.

You just don't understand it, Picks. Trust him, it'll work.

Really? We are concerned about 5 trillion over 10 years??

Of course we are. Mitt is too. He just thinks the math automatically works by campaign assertion, and some blog posts.

Oh please. We spend half a billion in an hour.

lol nice edit

 

[Run It Up]

Name-calling...is that the best you can do? Yes, probably it is. Don't worry, mate, I'll still pay for your health care.

You wont have a choice.

Instead of reveling in the fact that others are going to support you, why don't you make something of yourself? Jeebus. Occupy Wall Street all over again.

I'm going to school... and working. How about you do something other than promote blind ignorance and strife.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Bottom Line. When you wake up tomorrow...

Gas Prices are ?

Unemployment ?

How much does the USA owe?

Clearly all circumstances that resulted only from the past 3 years. What happened before that is totally irrelevant.

I BLAME GEORGE BUSH! WAAAAAH!

Fixed, for accuracy.

Wow, thats an incredibly childish response.

C'mon, that's EXACTLY what he was saying.