Presidential Debate Thread - Obama vs. Romney (1 Viewer)

[Mark Davis]

I don't think there's enough difference in either man's ability to handle foreign policy to make a big difference. For most people this is way down the list of concerns. It's the economy, and I think when people go to the polls they'll realize that Mitt is more qualified and Obama's policies aren't working.

Only in America can a man get rich by gutting companies for profit, provide exactly zero details on how he would do anything, and "be more qualified" to deal with the economy than the President of the United States. That statement is ludicrous.

So someone who cut overhead and waste in companies he took over is not qualified, but 4 years ago a 1st term US Senator, previously new IL State Senator, and community organizer was an expert in macroeconomics? Got it. I realize many want to focus on the shutdowns or failures from Bain investments but you never bat 1.000 in business. It's just that simple.

 

[dparker713]

I don't think there's enough difference in either man's ability to handle foreign policy to make a big difference. For most people this is way down the list of concerns. It's the economy, and I think when people go to the polls they'll realize that Mitt is more qualified and Obama's policies aren't working.

Only in America can a man get rich by gutting companies for profit, provide exactly zero details on how he would do anything, and "be more qualified" to deal with the economy than the President of the United States. That statement is ludicrous.

And yet you elected a guy with ZERO experience in anything in 2008? Why the double standard?

Ok, it would be a double standard if people claimed that Obama was more qualified than McCain in 2008. Here's a tip - they didnt.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

@mrsneslon in 30 years romney is going to look a little like bob sheeter does now

 

[sporthenry]

Let's ask Netanyahu if he's been a friend to Israel.

No, let's ask the people of Israel:http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/ispousa.htmlThe vast majority of Israelis believe that Obama is either pro-Israel or balanced between Israel and Palestinians, as he should be. Israelis are evenly split on who should be the next POTUS.Obama has been a great friend to Israel. He has not been such a good friend to Netanyahu. Netanyahu is not Israel.

That is because Netanyahu was boys with Romney and worked with him at BCG.

 

[Otis]

Jim11> $100 bet on the election?

 

[Zerp]

Did mod just say Obama bin Laden?

Check Politician Spock post after mine. He heard it too, Seriously.

 

[HellToupee]

this thread is &

 

[jon_mx]

Jim11> $100 bet on the election?

What is your stance on signature bets?

 

[Go DC Yourself]

Barring a huge gaffe by one or the other I can't imagine this debate is going to change much. I already prefer Obama on foreign policy but I'm supporting Romney. I think most of the non-partisan voters who favor Romney now aren't doing so for foreign policy reasons.

If you switched their foreign policy platforms, nobody would notice.

That would actually seem to benefit Romney i would think. If people come away thinking that Romney would be essentially the same as the President on foreign policy, that seems like a win for Romney.

Romney didn't hire on many of Bush's foreign policy advisors to be just like Obama. Though apparently tonight he can't come up with a coherent statement on how he would be different. Except he'd get better results. Magically. Just like with the economy.

 

[Thunderlips]

Mitt can't come clean on his opinions of China as Business Mitt loves them. Foreign Policy Mitt has to appear a bit more tempered.

 

[identikit]

Did mod just say Obama bin Laden?

Check Politician Spock post after mine. He heard it too, Seriously.

Yep.

 

[sporthenry]

I don't think there's enough difference in either man's ability to handle foreign policy to make a big difference. For most people this is way down the list of concerns. It's the economy, and I think when people go to the polls they'll realize that Mitt is more qualified and Obama's policies aren't working.

Only in America can a man get rich by gutting companies for profit, provide exactly zero details on how he would do anything, and "be more qualified" to deal with the economy than the President of the United States. That statement is ludicrous.

So someone who cut overhead and waste in companies he took over is not qualified, but 4 years ago a 1st term US Senator, previously new IL State Senator, and community organizer was an expert in macroeconomics? Got it. I realize many want to focus on the shutdowns or failures from Bain investments but you never bat 1.000 in business. It's just that simple.

Really? So Obama's failed investments in energy companies aren't as bad as Romney makes them out to be?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Is Mitt going to keep rewording Obama's words when he doesn't know WTF to say?

Is he supposed to make stuff up when his position is similar?

And that's why I predicted there's no way Mitt could win this debate. He has no major differences with Obama, and Obama is already President.

Want to add: Obama's main advantage is not that he's the President, but that he's been a terrific foreign policy President, one of the best we've had in recent years. This should be apparent to anyone paying attention.

So Russia running rampant, Iraq rapidly going back to extremists, Iran probably becoming nuclear within 6 months, a large chunk of the Middle East being taken over by extremist Islamists, and increase in terrorist camps throughout Iraq, a crumbling EU, an increasing trade deficit with China and a distancing from allies like England, Australia and Israel. But yeah, we killed bin Laden so he has an awesome foreign policy. Just wait until he wins the election and has more flexibility and can REALLY show us how it's done.

 

[Arizona Ron]

Mitt: "Let's go to war with China"

 

[HellToupee]

Jim11> $100 bet on the election?

What is your stance on signature bets?

Hank Haney only likes straight cash , homey

 

[SmoovySmoov]

I don't think there's enough difference in either man's ability to handle foreign policy to make a big difference. For most people this is way down the list of concerns. It's the economy, and I think when people go to the polls they'll realize that Mitt is more qualified and Obama's policies aren't working.

Only in America can a man get rich by gutting companies for profit, provide exactly zero details on how he would do anything, and "be more qualified" to deal with the economy than the President of the United States. That statement is ludicrous.

And yet you elected a guy with ZERO experience in anything in 2008? Why the double standard?

Ok, it would be a double standard if people claimed that Obama was more qualified than McCain in 2008. Here's a tip - they didnt.

Exactly.

 

[Phase of the Game]

Is Otis the most annoying poster here? And I'm a Democrat.

Haha, seriously. Did he tell you Obama is crushing it!

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Does your wife know you post crap like this?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Agree with Romney on China, we need to put more pressure on those butternuts.

Currency manipulator? Tell me more Mitch.

 

[Politician Spock]

Did mod just say Obama bin Laden?

Check Politician Spock post after mine. He heard it too, Seriously.

I heard it as well. Didn't even blink an eye either.

 

[HellToupee]

listen up hasyseeds , Mitt is killing it here on China/economy

 

[17seconds]

Mitt: "Let's go to war with China"

By employing them

 

[gcoast3]

Jim11> $100 bet on the election?

Eliminate the 5 most populated cities and I will bet you...

 

[jon_mx]

Mitt: "Let's go to war with China"

Mitt is actually doing good on his China stance....just don't talk about how China owns us.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Is Mitt going to keep rewording Obama's words when he doesn't know WTF to say?

Is he supposed to make stuff up when his position is similar?

And that's why I predicted there's no way Mitt could win this debate. He has no major differences with Obama, and Obama is already President.

Want to add: Obama's main advantage is not that he's the President, but that he's been a terrific foreign policy President, one of the best we've had in recent years. This should be apparent to anyone paying attention.

So Russia running rampant, Iraq rapidly going back to extremists, Iran probably becoming nuclear within 6 months, a large chunk of the Middle East being taken over by extremist Islamists, and increase in terrorist camps throughout Iraq, a crumbling EU, an increasing trade deficit with China and a distancing from allies like England, Australia and Israel. But yeah, we killed bin Laden so he has an awesome foreign policy. Just wait until he wins the election and has more flexibility and can REALLY show us how it's done.

Actually most of that is incorrect, dangerously incorrect.

 

[honky kong]

Is Otis the most annoying poster here? And I'm a Democrat.

Haha, seriously. Did he tell you Obama is crushing it!

THANK YOU FOR YOUR POST.THIS IS AN AUTO-GENERATED MESSAGE. SORRY, THE OTIS ACCOUNT DOES NOT RESPOND TO 4-DIGITERS AND 5-DIGITERS. PLEASE CONTACT THE BOARD OMBUDSMAN WITH ANY QUESTIONS.REGARDS,TEAM OTIS

Does your wife know you post crap like this?

Who do you think he has typing this stuff?

 

[snowmonkey501]

guess its angry black man tonight.

I don't think this is the right forum for you. There's a well known website called "Stormfront" in which I suspect you may find people more sympathetic to your POV.

odd that you are familiar with that site, and I had to google it to know what it was.

 

[CrossEyed]

Why does Obama insist on saying Pahckeystahn?

Because that's the way it's pronouncedJust like Iraq is ee-Rack, not I-Rack

ee-Rack? Uh, no. And it's only pronounced Pahckeystahn by people who have Pakstani accents.

 

[Mark Davis]

I don't think there's enough difference in either man's ability to handle foreign policy to make a big difference. For most people this is way down the list of concerns. It's the economy, and I think when people go to the polls they'll realize that Mitt is more qualified and Obama's policies aren't working.

Only in America can a man get rich by gutting companies for profit, provide exactly zero details on how he would do anything, and "be more qualified" to deal with the economy than the President of the United States. That statement is ludicrous.

So someone who cut overhead and waste in companies he took over is not qualified, but 4 years ago a 1st term US Senator, previously new IL State Senator, and community organizer was an expert in macroeconomics? Got it. I realize many want to focus on the shutdowns or failures from Bain investments but you never bat 1.000 in business. It's just that simple.

Really? So Obama's failed investments in energy companies aren't as bad as Romney makes them out to be?

I said you'll never bat 1.000, that's not a defense for batting .000 or .025 or whatever the case may be. You really want to compare the "success rate" of those green energy investments to Bain acquisitions? I don't pretend to know every success/failure of Bain, but given their success I feel pretty safe in wagering they had a greater success rate than those energy companies. I'm game if you are.

 

[Otis]

Is Otis the most annoying poster here? And I'm a Democrat.

Haha, seriously. Did he tell you Obama is crushing it!

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Does your wife know you post crap like this?

Who do you think he has typing this stuff?

 

[17seconds]

BTW I'm on EDT right now and it sucks watching debates this late

 

[Zerp]

Obama: Mitt will create 80,000 jobs.... in China.

 

[dparker713]

Jim11> $100 bet on the election?

Eliminate the 5 most populated cities and I will bet you...

Just as soon as they can eliminate the money that flows from them to the south and midwest.

 

[HellToupee]

KEEP ON PRESSING ®

 

[Bigboy10182000]

If I didn't live thru the past four years I would think Obama was the greatest President ever...everything he does is perfect and if it's a mistake it was due to the previous administration...

 

[Arizona Ron]

OH GOD

 

[Run It Up]

In case you guys forgot Romney is a car guy

 

[HellToupee]

where is Candy with the transcript tonight?

 

[Yankee23Fan]

This looks like FavreCo and Yankee23Fan debating Legal topics

What did I do? I'm watching football, getting ready to kill Megatron, and watching the debate here. You guys are doing some recent play by play. I know what they are wearing, how they sound and who is funnier.

 

[17seconds]

Why does Obama insist on saying Pahckeystahn?

Because that's the way it's pronouncedJust like Iraq is ee-Rack, not I-Rack

ee-Rack? Uh, no. And it's only pronounced Pahckeystahn by people who have Pakstani accents.

yes and nolook it upwhen somebody says I-Rack they may as well be saying "axe" instead of "ask" equally ignorant in my mind

 

[dparker713]

I don't think there's enough difference in either man's ability to handle foreign policy to make a big difference. For most people this is way down the list of concerns. It's the economy, and I think when people go to the polls they'll realize that Mitt is more qualified and Obama's policies aren't working.

Only in America can a man get rich by gutting companies for profit, provide exactly zero details on how he would do anything, and "be more qualified" to deal with the economy than the President of the United States. That statement is ludicrous.

So someone who cut overhead and waste in companies he took over is not qualified, but 4 years ago a 1st term US Senator, previously new IL State Senator, and community organizer was an expert in macroeconomics? Got it. I realize many want to focus on the shutdowns or failures from Bain investments but you never bat 1.000 in business. It's just that simple.

Really? So Obama's failed investments in energy companies aren't as bad as Romney makes them out to be?

I said you'll never bat 1.000, that's not a defense for batting .000 or .025 or whatever the case may be. You really want to compare the "success rate" of those green energy investments to Bain acquisitions? I don't pretend to know every success/failure of Bain, but given their success I feel pretty safe in wagering they had a greater success rate than those energy companies. I'm game if you are.

Well, considering Bain was only really concerned about taking more money out of the company than it put in, they had a very large success rate - much higher than the rate of companies they bought that actually turned around.

 

[Zerp]

Did Mitt just say he agreed with Barry and disagreed with GW?

 

[Card Trader]

I miss the days when we would only argue about Cellular Telephones :(

 

[Otis]

Obama is this close from blurting out "OH BULL####"

 

[badmojo1006]

Currency Manipulator!

 

[HellToupee]

Barak lets check your record for the last 4 years

 

[Otis]

Mitt is sweating and has a really uncomfortable grin going.

 

[Go DC Yourself]

Why does Obama insist on saying Pahckeystahn?

Because that's the way it's pronouncedJust like Iraq is ee-Rack, not I-Rack

ee-Rack? Uh, no. And it's only pronounced Pahckeystahn by people who have Pakstani accents.

Or people who deal with Pakistan representatives and get used to pronouncing it that way. Like one would as President.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I miss the days when we would only argue about Cellular Telephones :(

Beeperchat

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Ill be the first to say I don't know much about these candidates but with the economy being so bad why would anyone believe what Obama says regarding it?

 

[Slapdash]

China's currency has been rising rapidly over the last 6 years: http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2012/10/against_all_ene.html