Presidential Debate Thread - Obama vs. Romney (1 Viewer)

[metoo]

Barak's problem is he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room but against Mitt he just not up to par

Think what you want about the issues but Mitt is clearly more intelligent than Obama

I think they are probably about the same, neither of these guys is a dummy.

This. I can't believe folks are debating this.

 

[Otis]

Jim11> I can assure you that it's really, really hard, and requires a really, really smart guy, to become editor of the Harvard Law Review. Like, crazy smart.

 

[honky kong]

Barak's problem is he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room but against Mitt he just not up to par

Think what you want about the issues but Mitt is clearly more intelligent than Obama

I think they are probably about the same, neither of these guys is a dummy.

This. I can't believe folks are debating this.

 

[tdoublebb]

Clear battle of substance (Romney) VS style (Barry)

Romney.....classy, elegant, respectful, a man with a plan and a vision.

Barry......looking to the moderator for help, kind of smug, arrogant, no plan......

Easy choice here folks.....

 

[dparker713]

I don't think there's enough difference in either man's ability to handle foreign policy to make a big difference. For most people this is way down the list of concerns. It's the economy, and I think when people go to the polls they'll realize that Mitt is more qualified and Obama's policies aren't working.

Only in America can a man get rich by gutting companies for profit, provide exactly zero details on how he would do anything, and "be more qualified" to deal with the economy than the President of the United States. That statement is ludicrous.

So someone who cut overhead and waste in companies he took over is not qualified, but 4 years ago a 1st term US Senator, previously new IL State Senator, and community organizer was an expert in macroeconomics? Got it. I realize many want to focus on the shutdowns or failures from Bain investments but you never bat 1.000 in business. It's just that simple.

Really? So Obama's failed investments in energy companies aren't as bad as Romney makes them out to be?

I said you'll never bat 1.000, that's not a defense for batting .000 or .025 or whatever the case may be. You really want to compare the "success rate" of those green energy investments to Bain acquisitions? I don't pretend to know every success/failure of Bain, but given their success I feel pretty safe in wagering they had a greater success rate than those energy companies. I'm game if you are.

Well, considering Bain was only really concerned about taking more money out of the company than it put in, they had a very large success rate - much higher than the rate of companies they bought that actually turned around.

A buisness that was interested in earning more money then they spend? You don't say..? Must have been full of evil republicans.. We should not stand for this..

Pointing out there is a severe difference between investing in a company where it matters whether it succeeds or fails and being an LBO firm that generally wins regardless.

 

[Mark Davis]

I don't think there's enough difference in either man's ability to handle foreign policy to make a big difference. For most people this is way down the list of concerns. It's the economy, and I think when people go to the polls they'll realize that Mitt is more qualified and Obama's policies aren't working.

Only in America can a man get rich by gutting companies for profit, provide exactly zero details on how he would do anything, and "be more qualified" to deal with the economy than the President of the United States. That statement is ludicrous.

So someone who cut overhead and waste in companies he took over is not qualified, but 4 years ago a 1st term US Senator, previously new IL State Senator, and community organizer was an expert in macroeconomics? Got it. I realize many want to focus on the shutdowns or failures from Bain investments but you never bat 1.000 in business. It's just that simple.

Really? So Obama's failed investments in energy companies aren't as bad as Romney makes them out to be?

I said you'll never bat 1.000, that's not a defense for batting .000 or .025 or whatever the case may be. You really want to compare the "success rate" of those green energy investments to Bain acquisitions? I don't pretend to know every success/failure of Bain, but given their success I feel pretty safe in wagering they had a greater success rate than those energy companies. I'm game if you are.

Well, considering Bain was only really concerned about taking more money out of the company than it put in, they had a very large success rate - much higher than the rate of companies they bought that actually turned around.

A buisness that was interested in earning more money then they spend? You don't say..? Must have been full of evil republicans.. We should not stand for this..

That's the part I sincerely don't understand. People are so critical of Bain yet unless you work for a not for profit or governmental agency, your employer is in business to make money. This "gutting" people mention is done all the time in every business when overhead is cut. It may be just one job in some cases or eliminating a position to run more efficiently, but that is the nature of business. It's like Bain has become this indictable entity by engaging in for profit endeavors.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Ok, my thoughts..... I would like to spend a solid 7 and a half minutes with Megan Kelly.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

obama has so much disdain for romney its really sad.

now I know to ignore your postsclearly these guys like each other

There has been information published that Obama insiders have said he doesn't like Romney. Wake up

 

[Otis]

Has anyone called the President "Barry" yet?

 

[Mr. Pickles]

onion

 

[17seconds]

Kind of funny how Romney was this centrist, agreeable dove while in the GOP debates he wanted to stomp across the world in a blaze of glory.

 

[Furious Styles]

I'd be shocked if Romney doesn't win this election. I think Romney takes Virginia, Nevada, Colorado, Florida, Wisconsin and Ohio. Pennsylvania still a toss up

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Jim11> I can assure you that it's really, really hard, and requires a really, really smart guy, to become editor of the Harvard Law Review. Like, crazy smart.

Yeah it was just explained to me how significant that position really is in academia. In his defense I think even Romney knows that Obama was probably the better student, but Romney's connections as his time as a high school cheerleader have also paid off nicely.

 

[Todd Andrews]

onion

Exactly.

 

[Otis]

I'd be shocked if Romney doesn't win this election. I think Romney takes Virginia, Nevada, Colorado, Florida, Wisconsin and Ohio. Pennsylvania still a toss up

$100?

 

[HellToupee]

kind of surprised Obama played to the viewers with ZINGERS

 

[17seconds]

What are they saying on Fox?

CNN everybody across the board saying Obama won easily.

 

[jon_mx]

I'd be shocked if Romney doesn't win this election. I think Romney takes Virginia, Nevada, Colorado, Florida, Wisconsin and Ohio. Pennsylvania still a toss up

Ohio is the biggest question mark. If Romney can really make a play for Pennsylvania, it is over.

 

[HellToupee]

Jim11> I can assure you that it's really, really hard, and requires a really, really smart guy, to become editor of the Harvard Law Review. Like, crazy smart.

Yeah it was just explained to me how significant that position really is in academia. In his defense I think even Romney knows that Obama was probably the better student, but Romney's connections as his time as a high school cheerleader have also paid off nicely.

I'd love to see the transcripts on both

 

[datonn]

Clear battle of substance (Romney) VS style (Barry)

Romney.....classy, elegant, respectful, a man with a plan and a vision.

Barry......looking to the moderator for help, kind of smug, arrogant, no plan......

Easy choice here folks.....

^ Wow people are partisan.I suppose I am too...but to me, Romney looked like he had a bad burrito before the debate and desperately needed to get to a bathroom to dump a pretty nasty load. Meanwhile, I thought Obama just let Romney walk into 2-3 traps all on his own, then pounced once the traps sprung. I didn't see smug, arrogant, no plan...I saw confident, and a guy who knows about 30-times more than any of us (via access to sensitive/classified information), and a guy who was a bit incredulous having to debate a guy who memorized a few talking points on Pakistan, but doesn't know 0.1% as much about the region as he does.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

What are they saying on Fox?CNN everybody across the board saying Obama won easily.

Steve Schmidt doing his best to pretend like something else was on TV.

 

[Furious Styles]

I'd be shocked if Romney doesn't win this election. I think Romney takes Virginia, Nevada, Colorado, Florida, Wisconsin and Ohio. Pennsylvania still a toss up

$100?

On who becomes President? Sure.

 

[HellToupee]

What are they saying on Fox?CNN everybody across the board saying Obama won easily.

Mitt hugged Obama on most of his foreign policies

 

[Otis]

I'd be shocked if Romney doesn't win this election. I think Romney takes Virginia, Nevada, Colorado, Florida, Wisconsin and Ohio. Pennsylvania still a toss up

$100?

On who becomes President? Sure.

Nice. I'll take Obama, you take Mitt.

 

[dparker713]

I don't think there's enough difference in either man's ability to handle foreign policy to make a big difference. For most people this is way down the list of concerns. It's the economy, and I think when people go to the polls they'll realize that Mitt is more qualified and Obama's policies aren't working.

Only in America can a man get rich by gutting companies for profit, provide exactly zero details on how he would do anything, and "be more qualified" to deal with the economy than the President of the United States. That statement is ludicrous.

So someone who cut overhead and waste in companies he took over is not qualified, but 4 years ago a 1st term US Senator, previously new IL State Senator, and community organizer was an expert in macroeconomics? Got it. I realize many want to focus on the shutdowns or failures from Bain investments but you never bat 1.000 in business. It's just that simple.

Really? So Obama's failed investments in energy companies aren't as bad as Romney makes them out to be?

I said you'll never bat 1.000, that's not a defense for batting .000 or .025 or whatever the case may be. You really want to compare the "success rate" of those green energy investments to Bain acquisitions? I don't pretend to know every success/failure of Bain, but given their success I feel pretty safe in wagering they had a greater success rate than those energy companies. I'm game if you are.

Well, considering Bain was only really concerned about taking more money out of the company than it put in, they had a very large success rate - much higher than the rate of companies they bought that actually turned around.

A buisness that was interested in earning more money then they spend? You don't say..? Must have been full of evil republicans.. We should not stand for this..

That's the part I sincerely don't understand. People are so critical of Bain yet unless you work for a not for profit or governmental agency, your employer is in business to make money. This "gutting" people mention is done all the time in every business when overhead is cut. It may be just one job in some cases or eliminating a position to run more efficiently, but that is the nature of business. It's like Bain has become this indictable entity by engaging in for profit endeavors.

Well, there are plenty of reasons to be critical of Bain, especially since their business model doesn't work without some perverse tax incentives, but really the larger point is that running Bain as a LBO firm is hardly evidence of an ability to create jobs or improve the largest economy on the planet.

 

[The General]

Mitt's foreign policy sounds like it's pretty much what Obama did, he just do it faster or earlier.

 

[sporthenry]

What are they saying on Fox?CNN everybody across the board saying Obama won easily.

Steve Schmidt doing his best to pretend like something else was on TV.

CNN Conservatives trying to say debate doesn't matter because it is already over or that Mitt just sitting there, agreeing and taking it was presidential and proved to people he isn't the insane Republican that we are going to attack everyone.

 

[Willie Neslon]

My wife has made up her mind and is going to tell me who she is voting for in a few minutes

 

[Politician Spock]

This was supposed to be Obama's easiest debate given the topic.

Even if he won (which is debatable), it was a close match. It would be like Michigan coming out just ahead of Appalachian State.

But if Obama lost this debate, it's like Appalachia state pulling off the upset.

i think Romney walks away with more than what was expected, win or no win.

 

[Furious Styles]

I'd be shocked if Romney doesn't win this election. I think Romney takes Virginia, Nevada, Colorado, Florida, Wisconsin and Ohio. Pennsylvania still a toss up

$100?

On who becomes President? Sure.

Nice. I'll take Obama, you take Mitt.

Thanks for the clarification

 

[HellToupee]

Chris Wallace saying "Mitt looked like he was protecting a lead and Obama attacking trying to catch up"

 

[Zerp]

Fact checking in full swing.

Romney: Syria is Iran's pathway to the sea.

Except they don't share a border....

 

[17seconds]

Bottom line: Romney survived.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Seriously, I was in Ohio for two nights recently and those damn commercials were one after the other after the other. I really feel sorry for those living in those states, terrible.

My parents are getting between 5-7 robocalls a night in OH.

 

[datonn]

Mitt's foreign policy sounds like it's pretty much what Obama did, he just do it faster or earlier.

And cheaper. Even though he'll spend $2 trillion more on the military. And don't forget that China, Iran, et al will come to D.C. with their tails between their legs and kiss Romney's ring after the inauguration too...since, you know, they'll take him seriously.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Who won?

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Who won?

Israel.

 

[sporthenry]

Who won?

Giants and Bear fans.

 

[CrossEyed]

The Marines still use bayonets, by the way.

 

[17seconds]

What are they saying on Fox?CNN everybody across the board saying Obama won easily.

Steve Schmidt doing his best to pretend like something else was on TV.

CNN Conservatives trying to say debate doesn't matter because it is already over or that Mitt just sitting there, agreeing and taking it was presidential and proved to people he isn't the insane Republican that we are going to attack everyone.

If that's true it's the wrong strategy. The race is close and Obama still has an easier path via electoral college. Romney can't sit back and run out the clock.

 

[badmojo1006]

Clear battle of substance (Romney) VS style (Barry)

Romney.....classy, elegant, respectful, a man with a plan and a vision.

Barry......looking to the moderator for help, kind of smug, arrogant, no plan......

Easy choice here folks.....

Barry? You can't say Obama or Mr. President? That would be the classy thing to do

 

[Slapdash]

Megatron!!! 6 yards!!!

ETA: Mother ####er

 

[datonn]

Bottom line: Romney survived.

Barely. Another hour or two of talking foreign policy instead of the economy, and Romney might have given his concession speech a couple weeks early.

 

[HellToupee]

Clear battle of substance (Romney) VS style (Barry)

Romney.....classy, elegant, respectful, a man with a plan and a vision.

Barry......looking to the moderator for help, kind of smug, arrogant, no plan......

Easy choice here folks.....

Barry? You can't say Obama or Mr. President? That would be the classy thing to do

love how the Mittens & RMoney crew are upset about Barry

 

[Mr. Pickles]

The Marines still use bayonets, by the way.

Well, we are at a critically low level. Not since the Spanish-American War have I seen our stockpiles this bare.

 

[sporthenry]

What are they saying on Fox?CNN everybody across the board saying Obama won easily.

Steve Schmidt doing his best to pretend like something else was on TV.

CNN Conservatives trying to say debate doesn't matter because it is already over or that Mitt just sitting there, agreeing and taking it was presidential and proved to people he isn't the insane Republican that we are going to attack everyone.

If that's true it's the wrong strategy. The race is close and Obama still has an easier path via electoral college. Romney can't sit back and run out the clock.

I agree just saying that I doubt there were that many independents watching and cared that much about Syria or Iran. This election will probably be decided on the ground anyways.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Clear battle of substance (Romney) VS style (Barry)

Romney.....classy, elegant, respectful, a man with a plan and a vision.

Barry......looking to the moderator for help, kind of smug, arrogant, no plan......

Easy choice here folks.....

Barry? You can't say Obama or Mr. President? That would be the classy thing to do

Or Mittens.. O' wait, that's what the libs call the other guy

 

[Hang 10]

Who won?

Insomniacs.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Fact checking in full swing.Romney: Syria is Iran's pathway to the sea.Except they don't share a border....

I didn't watch the debate but I bet any money he meant Syria is the pathway to Israel.

 

[Underachievers]

Clear battle of substance (Romney) VS style (Barry)

Romney.....classy, elegant, respectful, a man with a plan and a vision.

Barry......looking to the moderator for help, kind of smug, arrogant, no plan......

Easy choice here folks.....

Barry? You can't say Obama or Mr. President? That would be the classy thing to do

The office may deserve respect, but Barry does not. BIG difference.