Donnybrook
Footballguy
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2013/05/31/pro-football-weekly-says-goodbye
I wasn't an avid reader but enjoyed the "way we hear it" section.
I wasn't an avid reader but enjoyed the "way we hear it" section.
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Pro Football Weekly says goodbye (1 Viewer)
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HellToupee
Footballguy
PFW was gold pre internet days to old bastards like myself playing FF in the 80s/90s
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I hear that PFW was in a very bad way economically. Owing over $10 million and only worth a little over 100K. They had a multi-decade nice run there, but Hub Arkush really stepped in it calling out the Jon Gruden rumorsto Oakland last year in mid season, while the coach of the Raiders Dennis Allen was grieving the loss of his father. Bad timing and bad form. Can't say I'll shed a tear for Arkush. You can't stand on an island with your made up sources and still keep your credibility. Hub could have learned from Shefter and Glazer. Not surprised at the death of PFW.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Bummer. I used to love this magazine in the late 90s, but numerous factors made it obsolete, and I guess it was just a matter of time.
TheGrimReaper
Footballguy
You beat me to it! Was a great tool back in the 90's. It's a shame, but if you don't constantly evolve, gonna get run over.
I don't know why they couldn't wait one more day to print issues during the season. For example, their issue that would preview the Week 9 games would not have the result of the Week 8 Monday game. Then they would make predictions for Week 9 games including of the two teams that played in the Monday game. If the starting QB got injured it would be a problem. This is why I preferred Sports Weekly over PFW.
Without asking, I'm pretty sure those two read his articles like every other avid NFL fan. He's not young.It'd be very hard to believe that they owed 10mil and even harder to believe that these experienced people in the press would let you hear about their specific financial difficulties.
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Friday is "the day" in the print world. It's incredible how Americans spend millions more to buy printed material on Friday than any other day. Facts are facts though and if you're a publisher you have to play to that. The USPS has deals set up for newspapers (and they probably help keep the USPS in business because they do) but the logistics of printing and getting in stores all over the country make the timing oh so difficult.
I've been in plenty of places throughout this country where the WSJ, NYTimes or USAToday is delivered a day or two later than the printing date. If those publishing deities can't make it work, PFW sure can't.
I enjoyed the classic NFL preview USAToday puts in Friday's paper, on Monday. I'd review and think good call, woops, and should have thought of that etc. I can understand people not buying it due to timeliness though.
Katrina, Iraq, 9/11, Exxon spill....fuel prices have always gone up but they jumped considerably during these times. I believe this increased shipping costs and "killed" some magazines, not the web.
The magazine business is an odd one. Publishers are fortunate to sell 40% of the mags they produce and probably are OK with 20-30%. From "day one" people have thought magazines were a bad business model, but they've been around for nearly a century. It's an extremely tough business to pull off and the culture has changed.
FBGs had a great product in their football magazine. They also had this golden sticker and those cartoon head stickers. I thought they had a great product and great marketing addons. It doesn't appear it worked for them and they switched to a pdf version.
Magazines are a very difficult business
coolnerd
Footballguy
PFW did not go away because of a specific opinion on Gruden or Geno smoth or anything. Arkish was more a forerunner to Shetfer and Glazer than anything.
The basic problem for profootballweekly was that it waited too late to attempt to go online heavily. Once it did, the organization had no idea what it was doing and by the time it was figured out there were multiple replacements for the type of stuff they did. for the day it was the stat heavy, nerd paper (Outsiders and focus), the place to go for draft info (too many site to name), and rumor-mongered (PFTalk and Nationalfootball post). Classic the information business changed before profootballweekly could do so.
The basic problem for profootballweekly was that it waited too late to attempt to go online heavily. Once it did, the organization had no idea what it was doing and by the time it was figured out there were multiple replacements for the type of stuff they did. for the day it was the stat heavy, nerd paper (Outsiders and focus), the place to go for draft info (too many site to name), and rumor-mongered (PFTalk and Nationalfootball post). Classic the information business changed before profootballweekly could do so.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Haven't really come across them much over the last few years. Might have caught a "Way We Hear It" article time to time. Company just sounds like it didn't evolve. Tried too hard in the end to be the news instead of reporting it.
Does this mean Nolan Nawrocki can piss off??
Does this mean Nolan Nawrocki can piss off??
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It sounds like Nawrocki might currently be unemployed. Maybe the Jets will hire him to be a gofer.
smackdaddies
Footballguy
smackdaddies
Footballguy
PFW was the only solid NFL only publication available nationwide way back then. It had good writers and provided full coverage for all the teams. Great publication in its day.
As far as print publications go, it is all about number of sold copies, which drives your advertising rates. That's why you can subscribe to virtually any magazine you want for less than $5 a year through various discount services. What counts is subscriber numbers, not what the subscribers paid.
As far as print publications go, it is all about number of sold copies, which drives your advertising rates. That's why you can subscribe to virtually any magazine you want for less than $5 a year through various discount services. What counts is subscriber numbers, not what the subscribers paid.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Got it every week mid to late 90's. Became aware of numerous players while reading it, especially IDP's
Riversco
Footballguy
I don't think I ever read it, either. I can't even recall the last time I actually read a magazine. You just get more current stuff on the internet.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
No better crapper-reading material back in the day. RIP PFW.
lod01
Footballguy
Really liked the game by game stats. You could see easily who was consistently getting the ball at RB and WR.
