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watch this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=yehe0yqpSMg starting at about 3 minutes, it starts showing some good Alexander runs.

Most of these runs came in the beginning of the year before he had his cast. The point of this thread was to say that once Shaun gets his hand right and his cast comes off, he will be a solid player.

 
Since the beginning of the year, he also injured his knee and his ankle. How is getting his cast removed going to improve the fact that he admittedly can't make cuts?

 
Since the beginning of the year, he also injured his knee and his ankle. How is getting his cast removed going to improve the fact that he admittedly can't make cuts?
and wasn't he still feeling the effects of the foot from last year? This is what happens when RB's get older. I could be wrong but I'll let someone else take the risk.
 
Hmmm go ahead and jump ship. I've seen stranger things in football happen and with RB injury happening just about every week, some of you may regret dumping Shawn for insurance down the stretch.

 
Hmmm go ahead and jump ship. I've seen stranger things in football happen and with RB injury happening just about every week, some of you may regret dumping Shawn for insurance down the stretch.
While I'm in the camp that he is on the decline, I too have seen stranger things....
 
Since the beginning of the year, he also injured his knee and his ankle. How is getting his cast removed going to improve the fact that he admittedly can't make cuts?
Cast on his left hand causes Seattle to only call run plays to the right (the worst side of Seattle's line). He must carry the ball in his right.
 
Since the beginning of the year, he also injured his knee and his ankle. How is getting his cast removed going to improve the fact that he admittedly can't make cuts?
Cast on his left hand causes Seattle to only call run plays to the right (the worst side of Seattle's line). He must carry the ball in his right.
It doesn't matter which way he runs. The cast isn't what makes him slow. Plus, they never stopped running left for him. It was just less effective.
 
Hmmm go ahead and jump ship. I've seen stranger things in football happen and with RB injury happening just about every week, some of you may regret dumping Shawn for insurance down the stretch.
While I'm in the camp that he is on the decline, I too have seen stranger things....
If I recall, didn't a lot of people begin to jump ship on him last year? He came on strong those last few games and helped owners in the playoffs.Also, from the reports I read, management doesn't believe Morris can handle the load for an extended number of games... I just don't buy into Shawn is completely washed up yet. Let's see what happens when he comes back fully healthy.There is NO WAY I would dump him that's for sure. Morris owners without Shawn on their rosters might need shock therapy if Alex comes back and splits time or takes on a 70/30, 60/40 role and takes all of the GL love.Don't whine/moan and plead the 5th later if this happens when you have been warned here.
 
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Since the beginning of the year, he also injured his knee and his ankle. How is getting his cast removed going to improve the fact that he admittedly can't make cuts?
Cast on his left hand causes Seattle to only call run plays to the right (the worst side of Seattle's line). He must carry the ball in his right.
It doesn't matter which way he runs. The cast isn't what makes him slow. Plus, they never stopped running left for him. It was just less effective.
It does matter. Obviously you don't watch the Seahawks, because if you did you would know that he cant hold the ball in his left hand so they stopped running left so the ball wouldnt be on his inside hand. He was pretty much exclusively running to the right. When the defense knows which way you are running, I think its a little easier to stop me thinks. :yes:
 
Hmmm go ahead and jump ship. I've seen stranger things in football happen and with RB injury happening just about every week, some of you may regret dumping Shawn for insurance down the stretch.
I have to MAKE the playoffs before I can worry about what he might do in them. Carrying dead weight on my roster won't cut it.
 
watch this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=yehe0yqpSMg starting at about 3 minutes, it starts showing some good Alexander runs.

Most of these runs came in the beginning of the year before he had his cast. The point of this thread was to say that once Shaun gets his hand right and his cast comes off, he will be a solid player.
nice post. it's unfortunate that it inspired no quality discourse, only a bunch of people rushing in to salute readymade ideas. seeing someone go for the 'good posting' emoticon in response to another saying you must be alexander's mother pretty much encapsulates the state of the self-proclaimed shark pool.now . . .

you state in a later post that seattle calls plays to the right side mainly due to alexander's wrist injury. it's possible that looking at full-season stats distorts things, but i'm looking at FO's OL stats and I get 28% of their running plays to the left and 29% to the right. they do run worse to the right than they do the left, but it's hard to tell from the stats if it's correct to say alexander has had to run to the right too often and that's making him look bad.

i noticed that in 2006, they ran a higher a percentage of plays to their left, 38% to 26% instead of the 28-29% split they have this year, so just comparing 2006 to 2007 would justify your claim though. they are running 10% less to the left this year, even though their relative success on runs to the left or right looks nearly unchanged from last year. i will be interested to see the stats update for this week's games.

 
Since the beginning of the year, he also injured his knee and his ankle. How is getting his cast removed going to improve the fact that he admittedly can't make cuts?
Cast on his left hand causes Seattle to only call run plays to the right (the worst side of Seattle's line). He must carry the ball in his right.
It doesn't matter which way he runs. The cast isn't what makes him slow. Plus, they never stopped running left for him. It was just less effective.
It does matter. Obviously you don't watch the Seahawks, because if you did you would know that he cant hold the ball in his left hand so they stopped running left so the ball wouldnt be on his inside hand. He was pretty much exclusively running to the right. When the defense knows which way you are running, I think its a little easier to stop me thinks. :goodposting:
season ticket holder. you're just wrong. the guy a couple posts up gave you the stats--the percentage of runs to each side is the same. he's equally ineffective to either side. you're also wrong about the premise that getting his cast off is going to solve the problem. his main injury is his knee. his ankle is also injured. he admits that he's so injured that he is unable to do anything but run straight at this point. his hand healing won't make a bit of difference.
 
J R said:
watch this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=yehe0yqpSMg starting at about 3 minutes, it starts showing some good Alexander runs.

Most of these runs came in the beginning of the year before he had his cast. The point of this thread was to say that once Shaun gets his hand right and his cast comes off, he will be a solid player.
nice post. it's unfortunate that it inspired no quality discourse, only a bunch of people rushing in to salute readymade ideas. seeing someone go for the 'good posting' emoticon in response to another saying you must be alexander's mother pretty much encapsulates the state of the self-proclaimed shark pool.now . . .

you state in a later post that seattle calls plays to the right side mainly due to alexander's wrist injury. it's possible that looking at full-season stats distorts things, but i'm looking at FO's OL stats and I get 28% of their running plays to the left and 29% to the right. they do run worse to the right than they do the left, but it's hard to tell from the stats if it's correct to say alexander has had to run to the right too often and that's making him look bad.

i noticed that in 2006, they ran a higher a percentage of plays to their left, 38% to 26% instead of the 28-29% split they have this year, so just comparing 2006 to 2007 would justify your claim though. they are running 10% less to the left this year, even though their relative success on runs to the left or right looks nearly unchanged from last year. i will be interested to see the stats update for this week's games.
I see your stats and thank you for them but I am saying when Alexander has been in the past 4 weeks or so he has been playing, they have been running to the right way more. I dont know if you could find that stat for weeks 4-10 because it would be much more helpful. When Morris is in, they run more to the left because that is the side which they are way better at running the football.
 
J R said:
watch this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=yehe0yqpSMg starting at about 3 minutes, it starts showing some good Alexander runs.

Most of these runs came in the beginning of the year before he had his cast. The point of this thread was to say that once Shaun gets his hand right and his cast comes off, he will be a solid player.
nice post. it's unfortunate that it inspired no quality discourse, only a bunch of people rushing in to salute readymade ideas. seeing someone go for the 'good posting' emoticon in response to another saying you must be alexander's mother pretty much encapsulates the state of the self-proclaimed shark pool.now . . .

you state in a later post that seattle calls plays to the right side mainly due to alexander's wrist injury. it's possible that looking at full-season stats distorts things, but i'm looking at FO's OL stats and I get 28% of their running plays to the left and 29% to the right. they do run worse to the right than they do the left, but it's hard to tell from the stats if it's correct to say alexander has had to run to the right too often and that's making him look bad.

i noticed that in 2006, they ran a higher a percentage of plays to their left, 38% to 26% instead of the 28-29% split they have this year, so just comparing 2006 to 2007 would justify your claim though. they are running 10% less to the left this year, even though their relative success on runs to the left or right looks nearly unchanged from last year. i will be interested to see the stats update for this week's games.
I see your stats and thank you for them but I am saying when Alexander has been in the past 4 weeks or so he has been playing, they have been running to the right way more. I dont know if you could find that stat for weeks 4-10 because it would be much more helpful. When Morris is in, they run more to the left because that is the side which they are way better at running the football.
Your premise is wrong, and the statistics show that it's wrong. You're also ignoring the fact that his knee is a much bigger problem than his hand. Give it up.
 
J R said:
watch this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=yehe0yqpSMg starting at about 3 minutes, it starts showing some good Alexander runs.

Most of these runs came in the beginning of the year before he had his cast. The point of this thread was to say that once Shaun gets his hand right and his cast comes off, he will be a solid player.
nice post. it's unfortunate that it inspired no quality discourse, only a bunch of people rushing in to salute readymade ideas. seeing someone go for the 'good posting' emoticon in response to another saying you must be alexander's mother pretty much encapsulates the state of the self-proclaimed shark pool.now . . .

you state in a later post that seattle calls plays to the right side mainly due to alexander's wrist injury. it's possible that looking at full-season stats distorts things, but i'm looking at FO's OL stats and I get 28% of their running plays to the left and 29% to the right. they do run worse to the right than they do the left, but it's hard to tell from the stats if it's correct to say alexander has had to run to the right too often and that's making him look bad.

i noticed that in 2006, they ran a higher a percentage of plays to their left, 38% to 26% instead of the 28-29% split they have this year, so just comparing 2006 to 2007 would justify your claim though. they are running 10% less to the left this year, even though their relative success on runs to the left or right looks nearly unchanged from last year. i will be interested to see the stats update for this week's games.
I see your stats and thank you for them but I am saying when Alexander has been in the past 4 weeks or so he has been playing, they have been running to the right way more. I dont know if you could find that stat for weeks 4-10 because it would be much more helpful. When Morris is in, they run more to the left because that is the side which they are way better at running the football.
Well I did say that it's possible the full-season stats distorts the numbers some. And I did add that even though the stats show a balance between left and right this season, that balance shows they are running less often to the left than they did in 2006.Going back and reading the pbp for 7 weeks is more than I can manage right now, but Morris has 46 carries the last 2 games, and that could give us some idea if they're running more to the left now that Alexander is out. Here's what I have:

LT/LE - 15/46 33%

M - 19/46 41%

RT/RE - 12/46 26%

That looks inconclusive to me so far, but against Chicago at least they did not run to the right much, which could support your theory. Only 3 of Morris's 18 carries are to the right in that game. The distribution was a lot more even in the SF game.

But then there's this problem:

LT/LE - 3.1 ypc

M - 3.7 ypc

RT/RE - 4.9 ypc

If Alexander's problem is that he had to run right, where Seattle isn't as good, why is Morris's ypc so much higher to the right than left? In fact, 8 of Morris's 15 runs to the left have gone for 1 yard or less.

 
The idea that Seattle's left side is better is two years out of date. They've had problems at left guard since Hutchison left, and Walter Jones is a better pass blocker than run blocker.

 

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