Pryor Taken in 3rd Round of Supp by Raiders (1 Viewer)

[Steelfan7]

Matt Jones worked out fine minus the rails of cocaine he insisted doing habitually off of his dashboard.

Matt Jones averaged about 540 receiving yards and 4 TDs during his career.You can't just take someone who's never played receiver, and have him compete with NFL-quality receivers who've been catching balls their entire lives.

Matt Jones had very good straight line speed for his size, but he lacked the necessary quickness in or out of his breaks. For a wr quickness trumps straight line speed.

Well, right; do you think Pryor will have quickness in and out of breaks, after never having run a route in a real game? WR isn't as technically demanding as QB, but there are still a ton of technical things to learn which Pryor would be trying to pick up from ground zero. Even guys whose skills are a lot more closely aligned with the WR position than Pryor's are struggle to make the transition to WR; Devin Hester, for example.

That remains to be seen.

 

[LawFitz]

Is it true that the Raiders have only a 1st, and nothing until the 4th next year ?I think they will get a couple of compensatory picks at the end of the 3rd round.confimation ?

@AdamSchefterQuiet draft ahead: Raiders traded 2012 2nd-rd pick to NE on draft day, used 3rd on Pryor, traded 4th in 2012 to WASH for Jason Campbell.

I'm not sure but I think there might have been some conditions attached to the Campbell pick, which haven't yet been met (playoffs or probowl was one rumor I read). Also there is a lot of talk about compensatory picks to the Raiders for the losses of Aso, Miller and Gallery, but the signing of outside free agents like Boss will affect that. I know there is an offset, and there must be a net free agent loss, but I'm not sure if that net is based on number of players in and out or contract dollars/ cap space.

 

[Steelfan7]

Is it true that the Raiders have only a 1st, and nothing until the 4th next year ?I think they will get a couple of compensatory picks at the end of the 3rd round.confimation ?

@AdamSchefterQuiet draft ahead: Raiders traded 2012 2nd-rd pick to NE on draft day, used 3rd on Pryor, traded 4th in 2012 to WASH for Jason Campbell.

I'm not sure but I think there might have been some conditions attached to the Campbell pick, which haven't yet been met (playoffs or probowl was one rumor I read). Also there is a lot of talk about compensatory picks to the Raiders for the losses of Aso, Miller and Gallery, but the signing of outside free agents like Boss will affect that. I know there is an offset, and there must be a net free agent loss, but I'm not sure if that net is based on number of players in and out or contract dollars/ cap space.

There is some secret complicated formula the league uses based on FA signed netted against FA lost and contract dollars and performaces are factored in as well. Raiders will have a comp pick or two probably.

 

[massraider]

Is it true that the Raiders have only a 1st, and nothing until the 4th next year ?I think they will get a couple of compensatory picks at the end of the 3rd round.confimation ?

@AdamSchefterQuiet draft ahead: Raiders traded 2012 2nd-rd pick to NE on draft day, used 3rd on Pryor, traded 4th in 2012 to WASH for Jason Campbell.

I'm not sure but I think there might have been some conditions attached to the Campbell pick, which haven't yet been met (playoffs or probowl was one rumor I read). Also there is a lot of talk about compensatory picks to the Raiders for the losses of Aso, Miller and Gallery, but the signing of outside free agents like Boss will affect that. I know there is an offset, and there must be a net free agent loss, but I'm not sure if that net is based on number of players in and out or contract dollars/ cap space.

There is some secret complicated formula the league uses based on FA signed netted against FA lost and contract dollars and performaces are factored in as well. Raiders will have a comp pick or two probably.

Raiders will have three.The formula is secret, it's true. But the basis for it is obviously contract average. Raiders lost a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th next year. Got Jason Campbell, Demarcus Van Dyke, and Joseph Barksdale. They WILL get a 3rd for Asomougha, and one could argue a 4th for Miller and Gallery. Might not be that good, but I would bet on a 3rd and two 4ths if I had to.Trades will look wonderful if DVD and Barksdale are players. If not, the deals will look stupid. Neither player was a favorite of Raider Nation, but Barksdale has looked good so far at least. We will see.

 

[LawFitz]

Raiders lost a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th next year. Got Jason Campbell, Demarcus Van Dyke, and Joseph Barksdale.

And Pryor.

 

[trader jake]

But Pryor's measurables are off the charts.

His accuracy, poise in the pocket, and ability to read defenses are all below average.

He’s succeeded at a potent National Level program.

Yes, the Ohio State won national titles and the program is now in much better shape due to Terrelle Pryor attending the university.

All very predictable bias in here. If Ryan Mallet would have gone to the Raiders in the 3rd round, many would be saying "typical Raiders, going out and getting a drunken headcase." But had he landed with the Patriots so there are many who already trip over themselves rushing to the Belicheck mantle to offer worship to His Genius! If the Pryor had gone to the Patriots, everyone would be talking about how Belicheck did it again. Pryor would have his own “all aboard the hype/freight train” thread by now. It’s all in the perception, and thankfully I see a few smart people in here who don’t have a dog in this fight who can at least recognize the solid talent that Pryor is, without politicizing any team/media bias.

Mallet might be a headcase but he has the physical tools needed to be a successful quarterback in the NFL, Terrell Pryor does not. That is what makes the Pats gamble worth it, and why the Raiders gamble a bad one. Each player has off the field issues but what organization has the structure already in place to make this type of individual likely to mature? It's not a bash...it's an assessment of the risk vs. reward. In fantasy football I'd much rather have Mallet.

Matt Jones worked out fine minus the rails of cocaine he insisted doing habitually off of his dashboard.

Matt Jones averaged about 540 receiving yards and 4 TDs during his career.You can't just take someone who's never played receiver, and have him compete with NFL-quality receivers who've been catching balls their entire lives.

Matt Jones had very good straight line speed for his size, but he lacked the necessary quickness in or out of his breaks. For a wr quickness trumps straight line speed.

Matt Jones did not fail as a wide receiver for the Jaguars because he lacked some necessary physical skill. He failed because he lacked the heart to put in the work necessary and the intestinal fortitude to avoid illegal substances. Terrell Pryor also has the needed physical skills to be an NFL wide receiver but he has almost no experience. With the youth/upside the Raiders already have at wideout it just doesn't make sense for them to take reps away from Ford, Moore, etc. QB or bust.

 

[CalBear]

Matt Jones did not fail as a wide receiver for the Jaguars because he lacked some necessary physical skill. He failed because he lacked the heart to put in the work necessary and the intestinal fortitude to avoid illegal substances. Terrell Pryor also has the needed physical skills to be an NFL wide receiver but he has almost no experience.

Jones and Pryor are both tall guys who can run fast for a tall guy. That doesn't mean they have all the physical skills necessary to succeed at WR in the NFL. Usain Bolt is an incredible athlete who is 6'5" and faster than any NFL player; that doesn't make him a WR.

 

[Steelfan7]

Matt Jones did not fail as a wide receiver for the Jaguars because he lacked some necessary physical skill. He failed because he lacked the heart to put in the work necessary and the intestinal fortitude to avoid illegal substances. Terrell Pryor also has the needed physical skills to be an NFL wide receiver but he has almost no experience.

Jones and Pryor are both tall guys who can run fast for a tall guy. That doesn't mean they have all the physical skills necessary to succeed at WR in the NFL. Usain Bolt is an incredible athlete who is 6'5" and faster than any NFL player; that doesn't make him a WR.

 

[UnknownCoach]

Raiders lost a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th next year. Got Jason Campbell, Demarcus Van Dyke, and Joseph Barksdale.

And Pryor.

Yes, they got Barksdale and Taiwan Jones with New England's picks for the second, Pryor for the third, and Campbell for the 4th. Van Dyke had nothing to do with it. Oakland also gave up a 2011 7th round pick in the deal with New England for Barksdale and Jones.

 

[Faust]

Reaction to Pryor pick pours in

There is a lot of reaction to Oakland’s decision to take former Ohio Sate quarterback Terrelle Pryor in the third round of the supplemental draft on Monday. It was the first time Oakland has taken a player in the supplemental draft since it began in 1977.

Pryor is a project who has blazing speed at 6-foot-6 and 240 pounds, and could eventually play receiver. He has said he is open to playing other positions, but he would like to remain a quarterback. I wrote earlier Monday that Pryor fits Oakland’s profile, so his selection is not a surprise, yet I think taking him in the third round was too high.

Let’s take a look at some other the reactions on Oakland’s selection of Pryor:

[*]This is some of what Steve Muench of Scouts Inc. wrote in an Insider piece: Indications are Oakland is looking at Pryor more as a wide receiver than a quarterback in the NFL, and while that's an encouraging sign, given his deficiencies as a passer, the third round is still very early for a player who is a developmental project at wideout. Pryor lined up at receiver a few times at Ohio State, but there's a huge difference between getting by on athletic ability and knowing the position well enough to succeed against NFL defenders.

[*]Mel Kiper, however, is more inspired by the pick and he thinks Pryor could successfully make a position switch. Here are some of his thoughts in an Insider piece: I have said for literally months that Pryor would be smart to consider a position switch to either wide receiver or tight end, and that if he was willing to make that move, his value could be far greater, even as a developmental prospect. Well, based on what John Clayton is reporting, that the Raiders are likely to have Pryor switch positions after taking him in Round 3 of the supplemental draft, there are reasons to believe Pryor can make the switch and become an impact player. All the jokes about Al Davis and 40 times aside, consider some factors. First, let's remember that this wasn't just a really good 40 time. At the NFL combine before the draft, Edmond Gates was the fastest wide receiver, and he checked in with a 4.37 40, a fantastic time. But Gates is also about 6-feet tall and a little more than 190 pounds. Pryor ran a 4.38 to a 4.41 based on which stopwatch you believe, but think about that: at six inches taller and almost 40 pounds heavier, he is showing the same speed as the fastest receiver at the combine. In fact, this kind of performance may well have been the story of Indy. Even the greatest of skeptics can't scoff at that kind of showing. Guys have jumped up draft boards for years based on this. If Pryor was in the conversation all along as a catcher of passes, and not a thrower, it's not inconceivable to think he could have been taken even higher.

[*]I talked to Kevin Weidl of Scouts Inc. on Monday to get his thoughts. He said he could see Pryor develop into a Brad Smith-type player who can help in Wildcat situations. Weidl said he doesn’t think Pryor is necessarily a sure thing as a quarterback or as a receiver prospect. He said Pryor is inaccurate and unpolished as a passer and he looks tight as a route runner. But he understands the Raiders taking a chance on him because he fits what they want. “He was the Raiders’ guy and they jumped on him,” Weidl said. “It’s a little high, but they see something in him … Still, he has a long way to go.”

 

[Mikey16x]

Pryor to DHB will be the fasted incompletion of all-time..

That wins funniest of the day for me.

Imagine how funny it would have been had he been able to master spelling.

Sorry, good sir. I was on my phone when I commented on the post, I hope Steve Jobs and I didn't offend you with auto-correct. I'll tell you one thing that the Raiders haven't mastered, and that's drafting. Al Davis has given us a plethora of good jokes over the years, you clearly don't mess with tradition..

 

[shnikies]

Matt Jones worked out fine minus the rails of cocaine he insisted doing habitually off of his dashboard.

Matt Jones averaged about 540 receiving yards and 4 TDs during his career.You can't just take someone who's never played receiver, and have him compete with NFL-quality receivers who've been catching balls their entire lives.

Matt Jones was having a pretty good year in 2008 until the suspension.

 

[Donnybrook]

...Mallet might be a headcase but he has the physical tools needed to be a successful quarterback in the NFL, Terrell Pryor does not. That is what makes the Pats gamble worth it, and why the Raiders gamble a bad one....

To be fair, the only physical tool that Mallet has is an amazing arm but that is where it ends. Pryor can work on his pocket presence and accuracy issues but Mallet will never be able to outrun a single NFL linebacker.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

In fairness absent "the OSU situation" this guy could have easily been a 1st rounder a la ca newton etc. This guy was one of the elite 5 star recruits coing out of HS, and he had a phenomenal record as a starter. especially, for being so relatively raw. His big game record is pretty good, and he is lights out fast. He would make a helluva WR/ receiving TE at his size and speed...

and this is all coming froa die hard OSU hater. But face it, the kid is a raw talent. I wonder what round he is picked if the raiders didn't take him... Are the other bids made public in any way?

 

[massraider]

Hue said QB, for now. I like that, even if I don't think he is a lock to make it as a QB. 3rd rounder is nothing to sneeze at, but I hope they give him a shot to develop. I think now he is nothing more than an athlete they are going to try and develop at QB, but I am OK with taking the chance.

Nice thing is, he isn't a 1st rounder, this isn't a JaMarcus thing, where we are locked into him for years.

Not excited, but a little intrigued.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

So they lose their 2012 3rd round pick? Am I understanding this correctly?

They will very likely get a compensatory 3rd and 4th round pick for losing NA and Miller.

 

[pollardsvision]

Matt Jones did not fail as a wide receiver for the Jaguars because he lacked some necessary physical skill. He failed because he lacked the heart to put in the work necessary and the intestinal fortitude to avoid illegal substances. Terrell Pryor also has the needed physical skills to be an NFL wide receiver but he has almost no experience.

Jones and Pryor are both tall guys who can run fast for a tall guy. That doesn't mean they have all the physical skills necessary to succeed at WR in the NFL. Usain Bolt is an incredible athlete who is 6'5" and faster than any NFL player; that doesn't make him a WR.

I don't think it's that bad of a pick. 3rd round might be a tad high, but "tall guys who can run really fast for tall guys" have gone much higher than that, like Jones. At least they didn't burn a 1st round pick on Pryor.QB's that turned into good NFL WR's aren't everywhere, but there's been enough to make an impact that a 3rd rounder for a guy with those physical skills is a worthy gamble. The Steelers started a pair of them to win a Super Bowl (acquired them in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the Draft). I have no idea if Usain Bolt could ever be a decent NFL WR, but I wouldn't have been surprised to see him go in the 3rd round if he'd have entered.

 

[LawFitz]

After letting it sink in a bit and taking another look at Pryor's stats and highlights, I'm more optimistic about this pick. I'm a homer, so I am supposed to be optimistic, but I'm also thinking about how creative Hue Jax and Saunders can be. If they endorsed this pick, then I certainly do. And I have a feeling they did.

He's going to be a slash player to start his career and we'll see where he might go from there. I can already see Hue and Saunders creating a lot of crazy plays with this guy, DMC, Ford and Moore from wildcat sets.

 

[LawFitz]

Here is a message from a random poster on a Raider message board, which I think is pretty valid:

here's the thing though.... he didnt really play QB in high school. i mean he played the position, but he was a man among boys.... he was just running around and doing his thing...

his throwing motion wasnt good, his footwork was bad, he didnt know how to read a defense because he didnt have to. he didnt start becoming a true QB until he got to Ohio State.

the progress he made from freshman year to present day is incredible.... if he keeps progressing over the next 3 years like he did the previous 3 years, we may have something. but there is no doubt he is still a work in progress

 

[LawFitz]

In the end, he probably went where he should have considering Cam Newton went #1 overall and Colin Kaepernick went at the top of Round 2.

If those two were worth where they went, then Pryor is easily worth where he went. Remember, a pick in next years draft is generally the equivalent of a pick one round later in this year's draft when making trades. So a 2012 3rd, which they gave up to take him, is actually equivalent to a 2011 4th.

Based on where those other two developmental athletic specimen QBs went, is there anyone who really thinks this was a reach? I certainly don't. Even if he flops, it was worth the risk given the upside. If he had even an okay senior year at OSU, they is NO WAY he would've fallen to the third round in the 2012 draft. A good senior year probably would've vaulted him into the first round given his physical measurables.

 

[Ed Wood]

Hue said QB, for now. I like that, even if I don't think he is a lock to make it as a QB. 3rd rounder is nothing to sneeze at, but I hope they give him a shot to develop. I think now he is nothing more than an athlete they are going to try and develop at QB, but I am OK with taking the chance. Nice thing is, he isn't a 1st rounder, this isn't a JaMarcus thing, where we are locked into him for years. Not excited, but a little intrigued.

He can't be worse than Eldridge Dickey.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Signed, 4 years/$2.7 million. First five game checks lost to the wacky college meets pros ruling of Roger Goodell. So a 3rd rounder for 3.7 years of actual service. As long he's not JaMarcus Russell part duex, I hope they lock him up to an extension by year 3, because if he develops into a star QB, he could fly the coop. Not a bad risk/reward for those numbers.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

It was a fine pick. Al Davis deserves our ridicule but sometimes folks get carried away poking fun at his corpse. Very low cost and smart gamble by Oakland.

 

[Daywalker]

If the NFL draft was today where would you think Pryor goes?

Cam obviously stays #1. I know QB's with Cam's skillset are nothing new but got to think in a copycat league someone would draft Pryor in first round after these two weeks.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

When can he start?

 

[Raider Nation]

When can he start?

2012? Maybe. It would take injuries and a minor miracle for him to start this year, given his limited training camp.

 

[goldenchild]

When can he start?

2012? Maybe. It would take injuries and a minor miracle for him to start this year, given his limited training camp.

He's done with his 5 game suspension... Campbell has been awful. Is there no way he sniffs the field this season?

 

[krsone21]

When can he start?

2012? Maybe. It would take injuries and a minor miracle for him to start this year, given his limited training camp.

He's done with his 5 game suspension... Campbell has been awful. Is there no way he sniffs the field this season?

Get that crap out of here. Campbell has not been awful. Average maybe, but not awful.

 

[goldenchild]

When can he start?

2012? Maybe. It would take injuries and a minor miracle for him to start this year, given his limited training camp.

He's done with his 5 game suspension... Campbell has been awful. Is there no way he sniffs the field this season?

Get that crap out of here. Campbell has not been awful. Average maybe, but not awful.

Yea, you're right... awful was the wrong choice of words.I would still like to hear thoughts on Pryor though and his 2011 outlook. Strictly limited to gimmick/trick plays? No PT at all?

 

[The Hank]

When can he start?

2012? Maybe. It would take injuries and a minor miracle for him to start this year, given his limited training camp.

He's done with his 5 game suspension... Campbell has been awful. Is there no way he sniffs the field this season?

Get that crap out of here. Campbell has not been awful. Average maybe, but not awful.

Yea, you're right... awful was the wrong choice of words.I would still like to hear thoughts on Pryor though and his 2011 outlook. Strictly limited to gimmick/trick plays? No PT at all?

Wouldnt be surprised to see him split out wide, Maybe some end around plays a-la Randle El.

 

[Max Power]

I haven't heard a peep about pryor since the Palmer trade.

I was thinking about picking him up as a stash for the offseason. Is there anything to see here or is everyone just moving on?

 

[FavreCo]

I haven't heard a peep about pryor since the Palmer trade. I was thinking about picking him up as a stash for the offseason. Is there anything to see her or is everyone just moving on?

Nothing to see. Wasted pick by Oakland. Now that they have hitched their wagon to Palmer, only an injury will get him outta there. I would expect them to look at the draft for the real backup.

 

[squistion]

I haven't heard a peep about pryor since the Palmer trade. I was thinking about picking him up as a stash for the offseason. Is there anything to see here or is everyone just moving on?

He is being held by a team in one my leagues that has a roster of 30, but that is it. On the waiver wire in two 24 roster leagues. Palmer (even at his age) is still considered the future of this franchise. If you believe in Pryor's talent and you got a rebuilding project with roster space, then maybe, although there are other developmental players I would rather invest in.

 

[Max Power]

I haven't heard a peep about pryor since the Palmer trade. I was thinking about picking him up as a stash for the offseason. Is there anything to see here or is everyone just moving on?

He is being held by a team in one my leagues that has a roster of 30, but that is it. On the waiver wire in two 24 roster leagues. Palmer (even at his age) is still considered the future of this franchise. If you believe in Pryor's talent and you got a rebuilding project with roster space, then maybe, although there are other developmental players I would rather invest in.

I dont really believe in his talent, but looking around my wavier wire (12 teams 24 rosters), he looks like he has some of the most upside. Its him, Mallett, or a load of third string RBs who will probably lose their job this offseason.

 

[squistion]

I haven't heard a peep about pryor since the Palmer trade. I was thinking about picking him up as a stash for the offseason. Is there anything to see here or is everyone just moving on?

He is being held by a team in one my leagues that has a roster of 30, but that is it. On the waiver wire in two 24 roster leagues. Palmer (even at his age) is still considered the future of this franchise. If you believe in Pryor's talent and you got a rebuilding project with roster space, then maybe, although there are other developmental players I would rather invest in.

I dont really believe in his talent, but looking around my wavier wire (12 teams 24 rosters), he looks like he has some of the most upside. Its him, Mallett, or a load of third string RBs who will probably lose their job this offseason.

Mallett is the easy choice there, the only problem is how long you have to wait for the payoff.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

I haven't heard a peep about pryor since the Palmer trade. I was thinking about picking him up as a stash for the offseason. Is there anything to see her or is everyone just moving on?

Nothing to see. Wasted pick by Oakland. Now that they have hitched their wagon to Palmer, only an injury will get him outta there. I would expect them to look at the draft for the real backup.

First two and last sentences of your post seem too hyperbolic at this point, FavreCo. The third is very likely, though. The Raiders have their QB for next year, so expecting Pryor to start outside of injury would be a very long shot indeed.But as to his place on the team, or his talent at the NFL level, who knows? He's only seen playing time in one game, I believe, in which he was brought in to run a sneak, but false started.He's a pure Al Davis pick -- raw talent that the team got at a huge discount. Now that Al's no longer with us, the team could certainly look elsewhere, but I haven't heard anything that makes me think he's disappointed in practice or that the team would want to look elsewhere.If anything, would think Boller would be gone and the Raiders would look to bring in another veteran/journeyman as QB2 who could at least pick up the reins if Palmer gets injured, and join Palmer in grooming Pryor.Either situation could be true, I just don't think you can use such absolutes as we -- and the Raiders -- have no idea what Pryor can or cannot do at this level yet. I don't see the burning need to get rid of him.

 

[Max Power]

I haven't heard a peep about pryor since the Palmer trade. I was thinking about picking him up as a stash for the offseason. Is there anything to see here or is everyone just moving on?

He is being held by a team in one my leagues that has a roster of 30, but that is it. On the waiver wire in two 24 roster leagues. Palmer (even at his age) is still considered the future of this franchise. If you believe in Pryor's talent and you got a rebuilding project with roster space, then maybe, although there are other developmental players I would rather invest in.

I dont really believe in his talent, but looking around my wavier wire (12 teams 24 rosters), he looks like he has some of the most upside. Its him, Mallett, or a load of third string RBs who will probably lose their job this offseason.

Mallett is the easy choice there, the only problem is how long you have to wait for the payoff.

Which is kind of why I was leaning Pryor. Mallett seems like a multi-year hold. Oakland could shake things up and work in Pryor. Maybe even trade him for a much needed draft pick. Not likely, but more so than Brady finding the bench or trading Mallett.

 

[Chaka]

I don't think the book is closed on Pryor regardless of Palmer's status. Letting the guy sit on the bench for three years would probably be a good thing for him.

 

[squistion]

I haven't heard a peep about pryor since the Palmer trade. I was thinking about picking him up as a stash for the offseason. Is there anything to see here or is everyone just moving on?

He is being held by a team in one my leagues that has a roster of 30, but that is it. On the waiver wire in two 24 roster leagues. Palmer (even at his age) is still considered the future of this franchise. If you believe in Pryor's talent and you got a rebuilding project with roster space, then maybe, although there are other developmental players I would rather invest in.

I dont really believe in his talent, but looking around my wavier wire (12 teams 24 rosters), he looks like he has some of the most upside. Its him, Mallett, or a load of third string RBs who will probably lose their job this offseason.

Mallett is the easy choice there, the only problem is how long you have to wait for the payoff.

Which is kind of why I was leaning Pryor. Mallett seems like a multi-year hold. Oakland could shake things up and work in Pryor. Maybe even trade him for a much needed draft pick. Not likely, but more so than Brady finding the bench or trading Mallett.

The conventional wisdom is that Mallett is being groomed for trading fodder. Belichick has shown little interest having a successor to Tom Brady waiting in the wings, - if he did they probably wouldn't have let Cassel go. At some point Mallett will be traded and I was quite impressed with what I saw of him on YouTube compilation clips. Pryor IMO is a much bigger question mark and for what it is worth, I am in 6 dynasty leagues and Mallett is rostered in all 6 of them, while Pryor is rostered in just one (deep league of 30).

 

[Lavachebeadsman]

Would be super interested in any news on the kid. Seems like a perfect gimmick play type player that the raiders love.

 

[SWC]

i love gaget plays and would love to see him in some crazy plays maybe one involving a disguise