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QB Dak Prescott, DAL (1 Viewer)

Would be nice if the Cowboys and MFL would list him as IR.
What is the reason Dallas won't put him on IR last week when it was clear he isn't coming back for the year let along in 4 weeks.

Still not ON IR after surgery....idiots
I don’t feel like searching it up, but I believe each team has a limited amount of IR moves they can make each year.
I don't think there is a limit to amount of IR moves only a limit on number of guys you can bring back from IR

Most of the rules remain the same. Once a player is placed on the list, they must miss at least four of the team’s games. While on IR, they are not counted on the team’s active roster — although their compensation is still counted against the salary cap.

After four games, a player may be designated to return, which opens a 21-day window during which they can attend practices but are still not counted on the active roster. If they are not activated to the roster during this period, they must remain on IR for the rest of the season.

While each player may be designated for return twice a season, a team is allowed just eight returns from IR during the regular season. In the latest adjustment to the rule, a team appearing in the postseason will be allowed 10 returns that year.
 
Would be nice if the Cowboys and MFL would list him as IR.
What is the reason Dallas won't put him on IR last week when it was clear he isn't coming back for the year let along in 4 weeks.

Still not ON IR after surgery....idiots
I don’t feel like searching it up, but I believe each team has a limited amount of IR moves they can make each year.
I don't think there is a limit to amount of IR moves only a limit on number of guys you can bring back from IR

Most of the rules remain the same. Once a player is placed on the list, they must miss at least four of the team’s games. While on IR, they are not counted on the team’s active roster — although their compensation is still counted against the salary cap.

After four games, a player may be designated to return, which opens a 21-day window during which they can attend practices but are still not counted on the active roster. If they are not activated to the roster during this period, they must remain on IR for the rest of the season.

While each player may be designated for return twice a season, a team is allowed just eight returns from IR during the regular season. In the latest adjustment to the rule, a team appearing in the postseason will be allowed 10 returns that year.
You posted this while I was updating my post. Agreed!
 
I will say that sometimes seasons simply go off the rails. It happens with good teams and bad ones.

In DAL it does seem like when it's good, it's never as good as you think it is...and when it's bad, same thing.

FF wise, I'll be targeting Dak. He was extraordinary after the bye week in 2023 and I can see him dropping hard in the 2025 season lead-up.
 
I will say that sometimes seasons simply go off the rails. It happens with good teams and bad ones.

In DAL it does seem like when it's good, it's never as good as you think it is...and when it's bad, same thing.

FF wise, I'll be targeting Dak. He was extraordinary after the bye week in 2023 and I can see him dropping hard in the 2025 season lead-up.
Losing McCarthy makes me a little nervous. If he falls really far I can see him as a solid QB2, but I think Schottenheimer was near as bad a hire as they could have made. I'm probably gonna be lower than consensus on Lamb as well. This could be a mediocre passing game going forward.
 
I will say that sometimes seasons simply go off the rails. It happens with good teams and bad ones.

In DAL it does seem like when it's good, it's never as good as you think it is...and when it's bad, same thing.

FF wise, I'll be targeting Dak. He was extraordinary after the bye week in 2023 and I can see him dropping hard in the 2025 season lead-up.
I think Dallas is going into a phase where the team will be mediocre (even with Dak)

for years they were a good team playing in what may have been the worst division in football.

now....Washington and Philly are actually good. New york needs help still but thats not enough. This team has gone from winning 70+ per cent of the divisional games to now winning less than 50%. This means they need to win an awful lot of the non divisional games to have a chance at the playoffs.

and the team is arguably getting older too. and a big money long term deal for Dak. big mistake I suspect. Its not Desean Watson bad but I suspect the contract will be enough to keep them from being overly competitive
 
I will say that sometimes seasons simply go off the rails. It happens with good teams and bad ones.

In DAL it does seem like when it's good, it's never as good as you think it is...and when it's bad, same thing.

FF wise, I'll be targeting Dak. He was extraordinary after the bye week in 2023 and I can see him dropping hard in the 2025 season lead-up.
I think Dallas is going into a phase where the team will be mediocre (even with Dak)

for years they were a good team playing in what may have been the worst division in football.

now....Washington and Philly are actually good. New york needs help still but thats not enough. This team has gone from winning 70+ per cent of the divisional games to now winning less than 50%. This means they need to win an awful lot of the non divisional games to have a chance at the playoffs.

and the team is arguably getting older too. and a big money long term deal for Dak. big mistake I suspect. Its not Desean Watson bad but I suspect the contract will be enough to keep them from being overly competitive

I mean most Cowboys fans know we aren't winning any SBs with Jerry meddling but every year the overreaction is the same. It todays NFL with so many moving parts teams go from good to bad almost overnight. One minutes you have the leagues youngest defense, "This team is set for foreseeable future and could dominate for the next ten years!" - A year later its a dumpster fire. The reverse is also true. Having a last place schedule along with some overachieving play and you turn things around quickly.
 
I will say that sometimes seasons simply go off the rails. It happens with good teams and bad ones.

In DAL it does seem like when it's good, it's never as good as you think it is...and when it's bad, same thing.

FF wise, I'll be targeting Dak. He was extraordinary after the bye week in 2023 and I can see him dropping hard in the 2025 season lead-up.
I think Dallas is going into a phase where the team will be mediocre (even with Dak)

for years they were a good team playing in what may have been the worst division in football.

now....Washington and Philly are actually good. New york needs help still but thats not enough. This team has gone from winning 70+ per cent of the divisional games to now winning less than 50%. This means they need to win an awful lot of the non divisional games to have a chance at the playoffs.

and the team is arguably getting older too. and a big money long term deal for Dak. big mistake I suspect. Its not Desean Watson bad but I suspect the contract will be enough to keep them from being overly competitive

I mean most Cowboys fans know we aren't winning any SBs with Jerry meddling but every year the overreaction is the same. It todays NFL with so many moving parts teams go from good to bad almost overnight. One minutes you have the leagues youngest defense, "This team is set for foreseeable future and could dominate for the next ten years!" - A year later its a dumpster fire. The reverse is also true. Having a last place schedule along with some overachieving play and you turn things around quickly.

Personally think Dak will have a good year stat-wise, but it's the Dallas defense that I have issues with. They haven't been able to stop the run for years. If you can't do that, you're going to have a tough time winning games against good teams.
 
I will say that sometimes seasons simply go off the rails. It happens with good teams and bad ones.

In DAL it does seem like when it's good, it's never as good as you think it is...and when it's bad, same thing.

FF wise, I'll be targeting Dak. He was extraordinary after the bye week in 2023 and I can see him dropping hard in the 2025 season lead-up.
I think Dallas is going into a phase where the team will be mediocre (even with Dak)

for years they were a good team playing in what may have been the worst division in football.

now....Washington and Philly are actually good. New york needs help still but thats not enough. This team has gone from winning 70+ per cent of the divisional games to now winning less than 50%. This means they need to win an awful lot of the non divisional games to have a chance at the playoffs.

and the team is arguably getting older too. and a big money long term deal for Dak. big mistake I suspect. Its not Desean Watson bad but I suspect the contract will be enough to keep them from being overly competitive

I mean most Cowboys fans know we aren't winning any SBs with Jerry meddling but every year the overreaction is the same. It todays NFL with so many moving parts teams go from good to bad almost overnight. One minutes you have the leagues youngest defense, "This team is set for foreseeable future and could dominate for the next ten years!" - A year later its a dumpster fire. The reverse is also true. Having a last place schedule along with some overachieving play and you turn things around quickly.
The biggest problem we have now is that we have the best team in the history of the nfl in our division
 
I will say that sometimes seasons simply go off the rails. It happens with good teams and bad ones.

In DAL it does seem like when it's good, it's never as good as you think it is...and when it's bad, same thing.

FF wise, I'll be targeting Dak. He was extraordinary after the bye week in 2023 and I can see him dropping hard in the 2025 season lead-up.
I think Dallas is going into a phase where the team will be mediocre (even with Dak)

for years they were a good team playing in what may have been the worst division in football.

now....Washington and Philly are actually good. New york needs help still but thats not enough. This team has gone from winning 70+ per cent of the divisional games to now winning less than 50%. This means they need to win an awful lot of the non divisional games to have a chance at the playoffs.

and the team is arguably getting older too. and a big money long term deal for Dak. big mistake I suspect. Its not Desean Watson bad but I suspect the contract will be enough to keep them from being overly competitive

I mean most Cowboys fans know we aren't winning any SBs with Jerry meddling but every year the overreaction is the same. It todays NFL with so many moving parts teams go from good to bad almost overnight. One minutes you have the leagues youngest defense, "This team is set for foreseeable future and could dominate for the next ten years!" - A year later its a dumpster fire. The reverse is also true. Having a last place schedule along with some overachieving play and you turn things around quickly.
The biggest problem we have now is that we have the best team in the history of the nfl in our division

The best ever is a tough hill to climb.
 
I will say that sometimes seasons simply go off the rails. It happens with good teams and bad ones.

In DAL it does seem like when it's good, it's never as good as you think it is...and when it's bad, same thing.

FF wise, I'll be targeting Dak. He was extraordinary after the bye week in 2023 and I can see him dropping hard in the 2025 season lead-up.
I think Dallas is going into a phase where the team will be mediocre (even with Dak)

for years they were a good team playing in what may have been the worst division in football.

now....Washington and Philly are actually good. New york needs help still but thats not enough. This team has gone from winning 70+ per cent of the divisional games to now winning less than 50%. This means they need to win an awful lot of the non divisional games to have a chance at the playoffs.

and the team is arguably getting older too. and a big money long term deal for Dak. big mistake I suspect. Its not Desean Watson bad but I suspect the contract will be enough to keep them from being overly competitive

I mean most Cowboys fans know we aren't winning any SBs with Jerry meddling but every year the overreaction is the same. It todays NFL with so many moving parts teams go from good to bad almost overnight. One minutes you have the leagues youngest defense, "This team is set for foreseeable future and could dominate for the next ten years!" - A year later its a dumpster fire. The reverse is also true. Having a last place schedule along with some overachieving play and you turn things around quickly.
The biggest problem we have now is that we have the best team in the history of the nfl in our division

The best ever is a tough hill to climb.
Yep. We’re screwed
 
I will say that sometimes seasons simply go off the rails. It happens with good teams and bad ones.

In DAL it does seem like when it's good, it's never as good as you think it is...and when it's bad, same thing.

FF wise, I'll be targeting Dak. He was extraordinary after the bye week in 2023 and I can see him dropping hard in the 2025 season lead-up.
I think Dallas is going into a phase where the team will be mediocre (even with Dak)

for years they were a good team playing in what may have been the worst division in football.

now....Washington and Philly are actually good. New york needs help still but thats not enough. This team has gone from winning 70+ per cent of the divisional games to now winning less than 50%. This means they need to win an awful lot of the non divisional games to have a chance at the playoffs.

and the team is arguably getting older too. and a big money long term deal for Dak. big mistake I suspect. Its not Desean Watson bad but I suspect the contract will be enough to keep them from being overly competitive

I mean most Cowboys fans know we aren't winning any SBs with Jerry meddling but every year the overreaction is the same. It todays NFL with so many moving parts teams go from good to bad almost overnight. One minutes you have the leagues youngest defense, "This team is set for foreseeable future and could dominate for the next ten years!" - A year later its a dumpster fire. The reverse is also true. Having a last place schedule along with some overachieving play and you turn things around quickly.
The biggest problem we have now is that we have the best team in the history of the nfl in our division

The best ever is a tough hill to climb.
Yep. We’re screwed
I dont know if I'd say screwed.

despite the meddling of Jerry Jones, the team does seem to be reasonably well managed. but some of the key players are getting older. so unless they have a real good offseason I see this as a 9-8 or 8-9 ball club. 10-7 is likely as good as it gets for this team. and if they have injuries it could go bad in a hurry.
 
I will say that sometimes seasons simply go off the rails. It happens with good teams and bad ones.

In DAL it does seem like when it's good, it's never as good as you think it is...and when it's bad, same thing.

FF wise, I'll be targeting Dak. He was extraordinary after the bye week in 2023 and I can see him dropping hard in the 2025 season lead-up.
I think Dallas is going into a phase where the team will be mediocre (even with Dak)

for years they were a good team playing in what may have been the worst division in football.

now....Washington and Philly are actually good. New york needs help still but thats not enough. This team has gone from winning 70+ per cent of the divisional games to now winning less than 50%. This means they need to win an awful lot of the non divisional games to have a chance at the playoffs.

and the team is arguably getting older too. and a big money long term deal for Dak. big mistake I suspect. Its not Desean Watson bad but I suspect the contract will be enough to keep them from being overly competitive

I mean most Cowboys fans know we aren't winning any SBs with Jerry meddling but every year the overreaction is the same. It todays NFL with so many moving parts teams go from good to bad almost overnight. One minutes you have the leagues youngest defense, "This team is set for foreseeable future and could dominate for the next ten years!" - A year later its a dumpster fire. The reverse is also true. Having a last place schedule along with some overachieving play and you turn things around quickly.
The biggest problem we have now is that we have the best team in the history of the nfl in our division

The best ever is a tough hill to climb.
Yep. We’re screwed
I dont know if I'd say screwed.

despite the meddling of Jerry Jones, the team does seem to be reasonably well managed. but some of the key players are getting older. so unless they have a real good offseason I see this as a 9-8 or 8-9 ball club. 10-7 is likely as good as it gets for this team. and if they have injuries it could go bad in a hurry.
Jerry and his staff are very good at getting 5 to 10 very talented people on their roster. They are very bad at finding the right players to surround them with and the right coaches who can maximize the potential of the non-stars.
 
I will say that sometimes seasons simply go off the rails. It happens with good teams and bad ones.

In DAL it does seem like when it's good, it's never as good as you think it is...and when it's bad, same thing.

FF wise, I'll be targeting Dak. He was extraordinary after the bye week in 2023 and I can see him dropping hard in the 2025 season lead-up.
I think Dallas is going into a phase where the team will be mediocre (even with Dak)

for years they were a good team playing in what may have been the worst division in football.

now....Washington and Philly are actually good. New york needs help still but thats not enough. This team has gone from winning 70+ per cent of the divisional games to now winning less than 50%. This means they need to win an awful lot of the non divisional games to have a chance at the playoffs.

and the team is arguably getting older too. and a big money long term deal for Dak. big mistake I suspect. Its not Desean Watson bad but I suspect the contract will be enough to keep them from being overly competitive

I mean most Cowboys fans know we aren't winning any SBs with Jerry meddling but every year the overreaction is the same. It todays NFL with so many moving parts teams go from good to bad almost overnight. One minutes you have the leagues youngest defense, "This team is set for foreseeable future and could dominate for the next ten years!" - A year later its a dumpster fire. The reverse is also true. Having a last place schedule along with some overachieving play and you turn things around quickly.
The biggest problem we have now is that we have the best team in the history of the nfl in our division

The best ever is a tough hill to climb.
Yep. We’re screwed
I dont know if I'd say screwed.

despite the meddling of Jerry Jones, the team does seem to be reasonably well managed. but some of the key players are getting older. so unless they have a real good offseason I see this as a 9-8 or 8-9 ball club. 10-7 is likely as good as it gets for this team. and if they have injuries it could go bad in a hurry.
Jerry and his staff are very good at getting 5 to 10 very talented people on their roster. They are very bad at finding the right players to surround them with and the right coaches who can maximize the potential of the non-stars.
there are not a lot of teams that have that ability.

to succeed in the NFL you the GM/coach combo needs to sign/draft and develop late round picks and free agents into starters. its actually a skillset.

like him or not Belicheck and Pete Carol were among the best in the league when it came to this for a lot of years. and if you can sign one free agent per year that eventually turns into a starter, you're doing ok. if you can do two, youre at least a half step ahead of everyone else out there. if you do more, you are in elite company.
 
Ernie the Cowboys Fan
𝐓𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠: I’m being told that #Cowboys QB Dak Prescott is down 33 pounds.

Source: “He’s (Dak) sitting at 205 down from 238. Hamstring is solid. Expect to see Lamar Jackson level of athleticism this year from Dak. He’s also considering rocking the single sleeve”.

𝐓𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠: #Cowboys All Pro QB Dak Prescott has been working out at Pro Sport Performance Therapy in Frisco TX while preparing for an MVP level comeback post hamstring tear.

Source: “The guys are calling him (Prescott) ‘Slim Reaper Dak’. He’s down 30+ pounds. The league in trouble”
 
Is this the best shape we’ve ever seen him in, or is it by far and away the best shape we’ve ever seen him in?

What? Okay, he’s stupendously in the greatest shape we’ve ever seen him in!
When I hear this type of talk, I always wonder WTF they were doing previous. Being paid massive amounts of money, but never really bothered being in the best shape possible?

I attempt it daily and I'm doing it for free :wall:
 
Is this the best shape we’ve ever seen him in, or is it by far and away the best shape we’ve ever seen him in?

What? Okay, he’s stupendously in the greatest shape we’ve ever seen him in!
When I hear this type of talk, I always wonder WTF they were doing previous. Being paid massive amounts of money, but never really bothered being in the best shape possible?

I attempt it daily and I'm doing it for free :wall:

This was always my issue with Romo. He was such a sneaky quick scrambler- just imagine if he wasn’t pear shaped!?!
 
Maybe Dak has realized he needs to run and put it all on the line to win.

If he will run more I will be interested in keeping him short term. If he doesn’t I want to move on.
 
Maybe Dak has realized he needs to run and put it all on the line to win.

If he will run more I will be interested in keeping him short term. If he doesn’t I want to move on.

I don't play fantasy anymore, but if I did, Prescott would be a guy I'd be targeting. His career arc is that whenever he misses time with injury, he comes back and has a great year statistically.
 
Is this the best shape we’ve ever seen him in, or is it by far and away the best shape we’ve ever seen him in?

What? Okay, he’s stupendously in the greatest shape we’ve ever seen him in!
When I hear this type of talk, I always wonder WTF they were doing previous. Being paid massive amounts of money, but never really bothered being in the best shape possible?

I attempt it daily and I'm doing it for free :wall:
agreed.

I think some players get complacent and it becomes more about a paycheck.

a lot of these guys before they became a star, they were hungry to win and to be the best version of themselves. in this case it may be an injury that forced him to work out all off season when normally hed be going to or hosting a BBQ, having beers etc etc. hes also at that age where you can no longer get away with that lifestyle if you want to stay in the league. the big salary he now draws puts more pressure on him to prove he deserves it too. not sure which was more the case.... personally I'm betting on the injury. it forced him to pay more attention to his rehab and coming in at a lower weight also takes pressure off his body and makes the rehab go better.
 
Cowboys followed their draft board, but they still have holes

Excerpts:

With their first three picks, the Cowboys took the highest-rated players on their board at the time in guard Tyler Booker, defensive end Donovan Ezeiruaku and cornerback Shavon Revel Jr. In Rounds 5-7, they added more depth on the offensive and defensive lines, as well as at linebacker. Nodding to the deep class of running backs, the Cowboys took a pair of them.

While the Cowboys helped Dak Prescott with the line and maybe at running back, what about wide receiver?

Work remains.

The Cowboys entered the draft looking for a WR2 to pair with CeeDee Lamb. Had Arizona's Tetairoa McMillan dropped to them at No. 12 in the first round, he would have been their pick, not Alabama's Booker, according to multiple sources.

The top free agent receivers currently available include former Cowboy Amari Cooper, Keenan Allen and Nelson Agholor, among others.

Beyond Lamb, the Cowboys would have Jalen Tolbert as their No. 2 receiver at the moment. He led the Cowboys in touchdown catches (seven) last season to go with 49 catches for 610 yards. KaVontae Turpin can make big plays, but he has totaled 44 catches in his three-year career, making his mark as a returner.

The Cowboys also have Jalen Brooks, a seventh-rounder in 2023, and Ryan Flournoy, a sixth-rounder in 2024.

"Those guys have potential to be a No. 2, but they're not there yet. They haven't done it. They haven't hit that level yet. And that's why we have had an interest in upgrading that room," Stephen Jones said. "But I think once you get to three, four, five -- the positions you try to fill -- I think that receiving corps checks all those boxes."

In free agency, the Cowboys added Parris Campbell, but he has averaged only 9.1 yards per catch for his career.

And then there's Jonathan Mingo.

Picked up last season from the Carolina Panthers for a fourth-round pick (that they used to draft running back Trevor Etienne), Mingo caught five passes for 46 yards in eight games with the Cowboys.

The Panthers selected Mingo No. 39 in 2023, but after catching 43 passes for 418 yards as a rookie, he caught 17 passes for 167 yards last season. He has yet to score a touchdown in his career.

He also hasn't played a game with Prescott, who suffered a right hamstring avulsion that required surgery.

The Cowboys, however, are quick to point out they had a second-round grade on Mingo two years ago. And coach Brian Schottenheimer mentioned the changes coming in the offensive scheme and the influence of new receivers coach Junior Adams as hope for growth.


"Even just seeing the excitement CeeDee has for some of these guys and the traits that they have [brings excitement]," Schottenheimer said.

But Schottenheimer said the Cowboys will be on the look out for help not just at receiver but anywhere.

Jerry Jones said the addition of a more known commodity at No. 2 receiver would make the depth they currently have look better because of the experience gained already by Tolbert, the hoped-for growth of Mingo and the potential of Brooks and Flournoy.

"It definitely was a big-time thought," Jerry Jones said, "that the train has not left the station if improvement is needed from what we got on campus [at receiver]."

Now they have to prove it.
 
So what was the issue with Dak last year? It looks like weight gain or something?

Before he got hurt, he was on pace for career lows or near career lows in completion rate, QB Rating, Yards per Attempt, and TD ratio. His efficiency took a nosedive basically.

Was it really just the shape he was in? Offensive line problems? Something else?
 
I'm giving Dak a do-over. Last year was either his worst, or 2nd worst season in nearly every category, except yards passing per game, where he was still 10 under his lifetime average. But let's not act like 2024 didn't exist for him - he blew chunks!
 
So what was the issue with Dak last year? It looks like weight gain or something?

Before he got hurt, he was on pace for career lows or near career lows in completion rate, QB Rating, Yards per Attempt, and TD ratio. His efficiency took a nosedive basically.

Was it really just the shape he was in? Offensive line problems? Something else?
He's just not very good.
Here we go!
 
So what was the issue with Dak last year? It looks like weight gain or something?

Before he got hurt, he was on pace for career lows or near career lows in completion rate, QB Rating, Yards per Attempt, and TD ratio. His efficiency took a nosedive basically.

Was it really just the shape he was in? Offensive line problems? Something else?
He's just not very good.
he's exceptionally mid
 

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