QB Justin Fields, NYJ (2 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The Anti-Fields cult is also no joke

Frankly their position has a lot more facts and evidence to play with.

Fields cult is feelings and upside, and Getsy didn't bootleg enough (spoiler: he did. He ran every option rollout boot on the book, more than other team. Fields still gets a pass).

I love the athletic guys. But they need to be able to hit layups and dunks. You have NO UPSIDE if you can't throw a slant on time.

This post lacks facts and supporting evidence.

 

[Boston]

It annoys me when a site like The Sporting News runs an article titled "Jimmy Garoppolo contract details" and then say in it "The contract's value hasn't been disclosed."

Anyone seen yet what Garoppolo signed for? I'd entertained the thought of Houston maybe getting him and putting him back in a Shahanan-style offense as a backup, but didn't know that he would be affordable enough. Wondering what the Rams paid him.

He's probably playing for free so he can live in L.A.

Rams aren't even paying his contract...being paid for by an LA Women's Group.

 

[menobrown]

It annoys me when a site like The Sporting News runs an article titled "Jimmy Garoppolo contract details" and then say in it "The contract's value hasn't been disclosed."

Anyone seen yet what Garoppolo signed for? I'd entertained the thought of Houston maybe getting him and putting him back in a Shahanan-style offense as a backup, but didn't know that he would be affordable enough. Wondering what the Rams paid him.

Off the top of my head pure backups were going for about $2.8-6.m this off-season with I think Tyrod coming in the highest(he's done very well for himself with his last two backup QB deals)

The possible starter for awhlie/high end backup QB market was more in the $8-10M range. Jacoby/Darnold.

My guess is he's in the first group.

Houston seems pretty set at backup QB to me with Mills and Keenum. Also while it likely did not play a part Jimmy G does to the beat of his own drum and his time is his time. When he leaves the facility he leaves, he does not return phone calls or texts from his coaches, will just ghost them. Kyle and McDaniels seem fine with it, maybe rub some the wrong way. I think he's in a good spot and the offense should have a lot of things he's familiar with running.

 

[rockaction]

This post lacks facts and supporting evidence.

Can't find it after repeated searching other than anecdotes that seem to imply that Getsy ran a ton and then offenses adjusted to it.

I will say that Fields took the longest time to throw of any starting QB in the league last year. I believe he took 3.38 seconds to throw the ball on average. Second-longest? Russell Wilson at 3.07 seconds per throw.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I love the athletic guys. But they need to be able to hit layups and dunks. You have NO UPSIDE if you can't throw a slant on time.

Agreed. Colin Cowherd has talked about this a good bit with Michael Jordan. A couple of times each game it seemed Jordan did something otherworldly. But for most of the game, he did all the regular stuff nailing 22 foot jump shots and driving to the basket for scores and hitting the open man.

Same with Mahomes. Yes, the no look cross body throws are great. But the reality is 98% of the time, his game is identifying and hitting the open guy on the out route.

He makes all the plays he's supposed to make.

That's what Fields hasn't done.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

That's what Fields hasn't done.

He’s done some things though. The glaring question is whether he’s capable of more.

It’s difficult to tell based on his tenure with the Bears, for numerous reasons.

It’ll be interesting to see if the Steelers can develop him as a passer. If they can, the sky’s the limit.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Update on NBC

ESPN’s Courtney Cronin reports the Bears had an offer with stronger draft capital for QB Justin Fields but chose the Steelers to “continue his development.”
The Bears wanted a day two pick in the draft for Fields, but with potential destinations drying up through free agency signings and trades, Fields’ market shrunk. Cronin reports that five teams, in addition to the Steelers, reached out to the Bears to inquire about Fields. Most of the teams envisioned the 25-year-old as a backup. The Bears had an “additional offer with stronger draft capital from a team with an established starter”, according to Cronin, but chose the Steelers’ offer of conditional sixth-round pick with the hope of putting Fields “in a position to continue his development.” Fields will first be a backup to Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh, but could have a path to starting in the future.

If this is true, Poles should be fired immediately.

 

[FairWarning]

You want to write a playbook on how to screw up your young franchise QB? Keeping your previous franchise incumbent QB is on page 1.

Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers disagree. Not to mention Brady, and Mahomes.
Hopefully Will Levis will too.
The bigger screw up is to start the rookie immediately, then bench him for mistakes.

I hesitate to include Brady in here. He wasn’t drafted to unseat Bledsoe, but he did. Love, Rodgers and Mahomes were drafted to be the eventual starter and teams could afford to let them sit.

 

[Grahamburn]

You want to write a playbook on how to screw up your young franchise QB? Keeping your previous franchise incumbent QB is on page 1.

Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers disagree. Not to mention Brady, and Mahomes.
Hopefully Will Levis will too.
The bigger screw up is to start the rookie immediately, then bench him for mistakes.

I hesitate to include Brady in here. He wasn’t drafted to unseat Bledsoe, but he did. Love, Rodgers and Mahomes were drafted to be the eventual starter and teams could afford to let them sit.

Love, Rodgers, and Mahomes all went to teams with an established starter that had a history of winning.

This situation is not even close to being the same as those.

 

[FairWarning]

That's what Fields hasn't done.

He’s done some things though. The glaring question is whether he’s capable of more.

It’s difficult to tell based on his tenure with the Bears, for numerous reasons.

It’ll be interesting to see if the Steelers can develop him as a passer. If they can, the sky’s the limit.

We can start with throwing for 200 yards/game, They had a easy schedule, yet couldn’t do it against some weak D’s.

 

[FairWarning]

You want to write a playbook on how to screw up your young franchise QB? Keeping your previous franchise incumbent QB is on page 1.

Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers disagree. Not to mention Brady, and Mahomes.
Hopefully Will Levis will too.
The bigger screw up is to start the rookie immediately, then bench him for mistakes.

I hesitate to include Brady in here. He wasn’t drafted to unseat Bledsoe, but he did. Love, Rodgers and Mahomes were drafted to be the eventual starter and teams could afford to let them sit.

Love, Rodgers, and Mahomes all went to teams with an established starter that had a history of winning.

This situation is not even close to being the same as those.

but were going to replace those qbs in the next year or two also.

If JF is so good, he should have no problem beating out R Wilson then.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

You want to write a playbook on how to screw up your young franchise QB? Keeping your previous franchise incumbent QB is on page 1.

Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers disagree. Not to mention Brady, and Mahomes.
Hopefully Will Levis will too.
The bigger screw up is to start the rookie immediately, then bench him for mistakes.

I hesitate to include Brady in here. He wasn’t drafted to unseat Bledsoe, but he did. Love, Rodgers and Mahomes were drafted to be the eventual starter and teams could afford to let them sit.

Technically he didn’t unseat Bledsoe. Bledsoe had his insides rearranged by Mo Lewis on a brutal spear to the chest that changed sports history forver. Bledsoe was actually having a very good year to that point IIRC.

 

[N Zone]

Fields team beat Trevor Lawrence's team head to head in the 2021 Sugar Bowl.

Sugar Bowl - Ohio State vs Clemson Box Score, January 1, 2021 | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

Sugar Bowl - Ohio State vs Clemson Box Score, January 1, 2021

www.sports-reference.com

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

We can start with throwing for 200 yards/game, They had a easy schedule, yet couldn’t do it against some weak D’s.

Again, the situation in Chicago was less than an ideal environment at times during his tenure.

That said, against Denver he threw 28/35 for 335 with 4 TD/1 Int, so…he can do that apparently.

 

[FairWarning]

You want to write a playbook on how to screw up your young franchise QB? Keeping your previous franchise incumbent QB is on page 1.

Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers disagree. Not to mention Brady, and Mahomes.
Hopefully Will Levis will too.
The bigger screw up is to start the rookie immediately, then bench him for mistakes.

I hesitate to include Brady in here. He wasn’t drafted to unseat Bledsoe, but he did. Love, Rodgers and Mahomes were drafted to be the eventual starter and teams could afford to let them sit.

Technically he didn’t unseat Bledsoe. Bledsoe had his insides rearranged by Mo Lewis on a brutal spear to the chest that changed sports history forver. Bledsoe was actually having a very good year to that point IIRC.

Correct. The Pats just got lucky with a 6th round Brady, same with SF and Purdy. That’s what great franchises do though.

For whatever reasons, the Bears were spinning their wheels with Fields. Sometimes you just have to move on - same as Pitt did with their three qbs.

 

[FairWarning]

Actually a similar situation is SF trading Lance just to eliminate the potential distraction. What hurt Chixago was Atlanta signing Cousins.

 

[menobrown]

Update on NBC

ESPN’s Courtney Cronin reports the Bears had an offer with stronger draft capital for QB Justin Fields but chose the Steelers to “continue his development.”
The Bears wanted a day two pick in the draft for Fields, but with potential destinations drying up through free agency signings and trades, Fields’ market shrunk. Cronin reports that five teams, in addition to the Steelers, reached out to the Bears to inquire about Fields. Most of the teams envisioned the 25-year-old as a backup. The Bears had an “additional offer with stronger draft capital from a team with an established starter”, according to Cronin, but chose the Steelers’ offer of conditional sixth-round pick with the hope of putting Fields “in a position to continue his development.” Fields will first be a backup to Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh, but could have a path to starting in the future.

If this is true, Poles should be fired immediately.

Depends on how much off, might be minimal.

Considered this last night and thought most likely the team in question was the Eagles, who along with the Colts were the other teams reportedly interested in Fields, with both making a lot of sense to bring him in as a backup to a similar QB so you'd not have to change the offense.

But back to Philly. When they traded for Pickett, Dan Graziano said they pivoted to him when the cost for Fields as not to their liking. Then I see Fields get a decent sized less of a return so it made me wonder two things. Graziano never said the Eagles could have got Fields for what they got Pickett, he just said they could not agree on a cost, I just assumed he meant Fields cost them more but now I don't know.

But my last point is a lot of agents/GM's don't like Howie Roseman. Say you can't trust him. Technnically you can make an argument that you don't need to trust someone to make a deal but I guess comfort level in who you deal with does come into play and it seems apparent Poles and Kahn have that type of comfort.

Just spitballing but "better" can be subjective, and it could be very minimal.

Personally I'm a big Poles fan, and not just because he's sent my Steelers Joey Porter Jr and Fields for Claypool and a 6th. Seriously. I think he's doing good work.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

and not just because he's sent my Steelers Joey Porter Jr and Fields for Claypool and a 6th. Seriously. I

Oof

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Update on NBC

ESPN’s Courtney Cronin reports the Bears had an offer with stronger draft capital for QB Justin Fields but chose the Steelers to “continue his development.”
The Bears wanted a day two pick in the draft for Fields, but with potential destinations drying up through free agency signings and trades, Fields’ market shrunk. Cronin reports that five teams, in addition to the Steelers, reached out to the Bears to inquire about Fields. Most of the teams envisioned the 25-year-old as a backup. The Bears had an “additional offer with stronger draft capital from a team with an established starter”, according to Cronin, but chose the Steelers’ offer of conditional sixth-round pick with the hope of putting Fields “in a position to continue his development.” Fields will first be a backup to Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh, but could have a path to starting in the future.

If this is true, Poles should be fired immediately.

This will go a long way for their reputation with players.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This will go a long way for their reputation with players.

If true, yes most definitely. It’s one of the worst business decisions but one of the best human interest decisions.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

I would have loved to see Fields go anywhere but Pittsburgh being a Bengal fan. I'm also unsure how Pittsburgh's offense will operate. Arthur Smith had some good years in Tennessee but they had some superstars in place during that time. Smith's time in Atlanta was not the same and perhaps he is a better OC than a head coach. I'm trying to figure out why to move on from Pickett and Rudolph for Wilson and Fields. Do they want to be more athletic? Pickett can move pretty well. This seems odd to me but they must have a plan and watching this unfold should be interesting. Fantasy you hope Fields sees the field sooner than later. I think Fields is a hold at the moment because you won't be able to get the value return you want.

 

[Anarchy99]

I love the athletic guys. But they need to be able to hit layups and dunks. You have NO UPSIDE if you can't throw a slant on time.

Agreed. Colin Cowherd has talked about this a good bit with Michael Jordan. A couple of times each game it seemed Jordan did something otherworldly. But for most of the game, he did all the regular stuff nailing 22 foot jump shots and driving to the basket for scores and hitting the open man.

Same with Mahomes. Yes, the no look cross body throws are great. But the reality is 98% of the time, his game is identifying and hitting the open guy on the out route.

He makes all the plays he's supposed to make.

That's what Fields hasn't done.

You inadvertently came up with an example I was going to make in reverse. Many (most?) times, guys drafted early in the draft end up on bad teams, with limited talent, a coaching staff that will be gone in a year, often times no blocking, and poor play calling. Basically a mess . . . a team with a poor environment that does very little to support the rookie QB, and a high likelihood of failure and ruining the confidence in that QB.

Let's use Mahomes as an example. He lucked out, going to a playoff team that just had a Pro Bowl QB with a HOF head coach and a great offensive mind and tons of weapons. For ha-ha's, let's switch Mahomes and Fields. The Bears probably would have won a few more games with Mahomes, but all their other issues would have remained. Put Fields on the Chiefs, and while they may not have won 3 titles in 4 seasons, I'm guessing Fields would have been way farther in his development, the Chiefs still would have been a multi-time playoff team, CHI still would have cycled through head coaches and offensive coordinators, and the narrative for Mahomes could have been light years different.

That's not how things played out, but Fields wasn't in a spot that was conducive to his success. A lot of QBs would have crashed and burned on the recent Bears teams. The problem is, he is going to have to start over and rebuilt his brand and show that he could contribute in a better and more stable environment.

 

[menobrown]

This will go a long way for their reputation with players.

If true, yes most definitely. It’s one of the worst business decisions but one of the best human interest decisions.

Again I'm sure it was minimal on any return he could have got otherwise. Brad Biggs, best Bears beat writer I know, said he heard from several sources that Poles had been hard working the phones the last few weeks trying to get some interest for Fields. I would disabuse yourself of the notion he turned down some great offer. Fields was valued as backup, maybe could have got a 5th instead or something, not a big deal.

 

[McBokonon]

I love the athletic guys. But they need to be able to hit layups and dunks. You have NO UPSIDE if you can't throw a slant on time.

Agreed. Colin Cowherd has talked about this a good bit with Michael Jordan. A couple of times each game it seemed Jordan did something otherworldly. But for most of the game, he did all the regular stuff nailing 22 foot jump shots and driving to the basket for scores and hitting the open man.

Same with Mahomes. Yes, the no look cross body throws are great. But the reality is 98% of the time, his game is identifying and hitting the open guy on the out route.

He makes all the plays he's supposed to make.

That's what Fields hasn't done.

You're comparing two of the best to ever do their jobs against Fields. It's not realistic or fair to expect Jordan or Mahomes level from anyone. They're special.

Is it unrealistic to hope for serviceable from Fields? Because if he starts hitting those intermediate routes even occasionally he can win some playoff games with a good team.

 

[FairWarning]

This will go a long way for their reputation with players.

If true, yes most definitely. It’s one of the worst business decisions but one of the best human interest decisions.

Again I'm sure it was minimal on any return he could have got otherwise. Brad Biggs, best Bears beat writer I know, said he heard from several sources that Poles had been hard working the phones the last few weeks trying to get some interest for Fields. I would disabuse yourself of the notion he turned down some great offer. Fields was valued as backup, maybe could have got a 5th instead or something, not a big deal.

If there was a market, Cousins going to
Atl and Getsy to Vegas killed it.

 

[pollardsvision]

This will go a long way for their reputation with players.

If true, yes most definitely. It’s one of the worst business decisions but one of the best human interest decisions.

Again I'm sure it was minimal on any return he could have got otherwise. Brad Biggs, best Bears beat writer I know, said he heard from several sources that Poles had been hard working the phones the last few weeks trying to get some interest for Fields. I would disabuse yourself of the notion he turned down some great offer. Fields was valued as backup, maybe could have got a 5th instead or something, not a big deal.

Yeah, there's no way the Bears turned down a great deal.
This is an unproven QB that's going to need a $25 million commitment for next year in the next 6 weeks, a deep draft class, and a decent number of veterans on the market.

A terrible environment for trading Fields.

That the Raiders or Broncos wouldn't muster up a 5th round pick for him says all we really need to know.

 

[menobrown]

This will go a long way for their reputation with players.

If true, yes most definitely. It’s one of the worst business decisions but one of the best human interest decisions.

Again I'm sure it was minimal on any return he could have got otherwise. Brad Biggs, best Bears beat writer I know, said he heard from several sources that Poles had been hard working the phones the last few weeks trying to get some interest for Fields. I would disabuse yourself of the notion he turned down some great offer. Fields was valued as backup, maybe could have got a 5th instead or something, not a big deal.

If there was a market, Cousins going to a
Atl and Getsy to Vegas killed it.

It's the first sentence, there was no market and honestly quite surprised people are still hanging onto the idea there was and Poles just bothced it.

Atlanta never had any interest in him. He's not a good fit for the system and had they not got Cousins they were going to pivot to someone else. Heard Jacoby and draft.

The thing about Getsy which might have hurt his market was not him going to Vegas, it was going to Vegas and not wanting Fields. Teams saw that.

 

[menobrown]

This is an unproven QB that's going to need a $25 million commitment for next year

I have to say I don't think this is the case and don't think that had much impact on his market. I will say if he had another year on his rookie deal it would have helped a lot however, which I why I think Howell, Ridder and Pickett got a little more because they had the extra year.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

This will go a long way for their reputation with players.

If true, yes most definitely. It’s one of the worst business decisions but one of the best human interest decisions.

Again I'm sure it was minimal on any return he could have got otherwise. Brad Biggs, best Bears beat writer I know, said he heard from several sources that Poles had been hard working the phones the last few weeks trying to get some interest for Fields. I would disabuse yourself of the notion he turned down some great offer. Fields was valued as backup, maybe could have got a 5th instead or something, not a big deal.

If there was a market, Cousins going to a
Atl and Getsy to Vegas killed it.

It's the first sentence, there was no market and honestly quite surprised people are still hanging onto the idea there was and Poles just bothced it.

Atlanta never had any interest in him. He's not a good fit for the system and had they not got Cousins they were going to pivot to someone else. Heard Jacoby and draft.

The thing about Getsy which might have hurt his market was not him going to Vegas, it was going to Vegas and not wanting Fields. Teams saw that.

Philly trading a 4th for Pickett was interesting when Fields went for a 6th that could be a 4th. All the stories coming out now make no difference. Now we all get to wait and see. Since my Bengals are the most important part of my NFL fandom. I'm hoping Fields never sees the field for Pittsburgh.

 

[Grahamburn]

This will go a long way for their reputation with players.

If true, yes most definitely. It’s one of the worst business decisions but one of the best human interest decisions.

Again I'm sure it was minimal on any return he could have got otherwise. Brad Biggs, best Bears beat writer I know, said he heard from several sources that Poles had been hard working the phones the last few weeks trying to get some interest for Fields. I would disabuse yourself of the notion he turned down some great offer. Fields was valued as backup, maybe could have got a 5th instead or something, not a big deal.

If there was a market, Cousins going to a
Atl and Getsy to Vegas killed it.

It's the first sentence, there was no market and honestly quite surprised people are still hanging onto the idea there was and Poles just bothced it.

Atlanta never had any interest in him. He's not a good fit for the system and had they not got Cousins they were going to pivot to someone else. Heard Jacoby and draft.

The thing about Getsy which might have hurt his market was not him going to Vegas, it was going to Vegas and not wanting Fields. Teams saw that.

Philly trading a 4th for Pickett was interesting when Fields went for a 6th that could be a 4th. All the stories coming out now make no difference. Now we all get to wait and see. Since my Bengals are the most important part of my NFL fandom. I'm hoping Fields never sees the field for Pittsburgh.

Pickett has an extra year of control.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This will go a long way for their reputation with players.

If true, yes most definitely. It’s one of the worst business decisions but one of the best human interest decisions.

Again I'm sure it was minimal on any return he could have got otherwise. Brad Biggs, best Bears beat writer I know, said he heard from several sources that Poles had been hard working the phones the last few weeks trying to get some interest for Fields. I would disabuse yourself of the notion he turned down some great offer. Fields was valued as backup, maybe could have got a 5th instead or something, not a big deal.

If there was a market, Cousins going to a
Atl and Getsy to Vegas killed it.

It's the first sentence, there was no market and honestly quite surprised people are still hanging onto the idea there was and Poles just bothced it.

Atlanta never had any interest in him. He's not a good fit for the system and had they not got Cousins they were going to pivot to someone else. Heard Jacoby and draft.

The thing about Getsy which might have hurt his market was not him going to Vegas, it was going to Vegas and not wanting Fields. Teams saw that.

Philly trading a 4th for Pickett was interesting when Fields went for a 6th that could be a 4th. All the stories coming out now make no difference. Now we all get to wait and see. Since my Bengals are the most important part of my NFL fandom. I'm hoping Fields never sees the field for Pittsburgh.

I suspect quite a few fans agree - if the Steelers are able to decline his arm talent & pocket awareness to maximize his athletic talents, then it is in the spectrum of outcomes that Fields becomes a very dangerous QB that bolsters PIT for years. And more to your point, one that teams in that division will have to deal with.

Again; it’s a big “if”, but facing a QB who has that level of mobility in a system within which he is comfortable/capable could be problematic. Especially since it likely won’t cost them that much to extend him, if they decide to do so.

It will be a fascinating experiment to watch as an NFL fan.

I’ll add that if the Steelers are able to successfully develop Fields, the Bears will be kicking themselves for a while.

 

[FairWarning]

If C Williams pans out, I would hope Bears fans wouldn’t be focused on Fields in Pitt.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If C Williams pans out, I would hope Bears fans wouldn’t be focused on Fields in Pitt.

Similarly if Caleb is a bust, oof.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Traded Fields, Jacoby Meyers, and 3.09 for T Law on March 1 in a superflex league. As much of a Fields supporter as I am (have been), it was becoming clearer and clearer that he'd be moved and the options out there aside from ATL weren't great. I don't remember who posted it, but someone in this thread mentioned the number of McVay disciples at OC who were looking for a QB. Turns out it was most of them, and (clearly) FIelds wasn't a good fit for those teams.

 

[Mitchie]

He was traded for $50 and a case of beer and some of you think he a good shot to start in Pittsburgh, smh.

 

[beef]

He was traded for $50 and a case of beer and some of you think he a good shot to start in Pittsburgh, smh.

If Fields is equivalent to that, than what is Russ? Wooden nickel and a half a can of zima?

 

[rockaction]

If Fields is equivalent to that, than what is Wilson? Wooden nickel and a half a can of zima?

Zach of the Jets? I don't think anybody wants to pay his salary, actually. He's been deemed unable to be traded by guys that think about this stuff on Twitter.

eta* Oh, you might mean Russ. I'm sorry.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If Fields is equivalent to that, than what is Wilson? Wooden nickel and a half a can of zima?

Zach of the Jets? I don't think anybody wants to pay his salary, actually. He's been deemed unable to be traded by guys that think about this stuff on Twitter.

eta* Oh, you might mean Russ. I'm sorry.

I think he meant Russ, yes.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

Is Fields even worth a 3rd round rookie pick in a start 1QB dynasty league? Halfway through the season if Wilson is looking good, is Fields a drop or hold in 1qb leagues?

I guess that depends on your value of 3rd round rookie picks. This class seems like a deeper class so I might think the 3rd rounders hold a little more value this season. The roster construction matters when adding a player in Fields situation. You would need to be okay with having Fields holding a roster spot and hoping he takes over for Wilson sometime this season. I think that could happen but it is an unknown. I would probably not give a 3rd round pick for Fields. I'm a believer in Fields and his talent when on the field.

If you can acquire Fields at a depressed value now is the time to strike. The huge emotional swing of Field's managers could allow a cheap buy. You need to be okay to keep him on your roster collecting dust till he sees the field with that said should he see the field it could pay off with big rushing numbers which allows for big numbers in 1QB. He is now a lotto ticket.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

You would need to be okay with having Fields holding a roster spot and hoping he takes over for Wilson sometime this season

Yeah, a lot of leagues have short benches. In that scenario it’s a very risky prospect.

Were I trying to acquire Fields, it would be with the hope that he’d start in 2025. But then, my teams have 50 man rosters (IDP). And even then it’s a risky prospect because I’m sacrificing depth for a maybe.

Personally I don’t see it as a longshot that Fields gets extended and has an opportunity next year.

Slightly longer odds on his getting PT this year. But if the Steelers are out of the running by say, week 12, I could see him getting some run down the stretch so they can evaluate what they have in him.

It might not sound like much, but that could be a league-winner in SF.

 

[FairWarning]

If C Williams pans out, I would hope Bears fans wouldn’t be focused on Fields in Pitt.

Similarly if Caleb is a bust, oof.

That’s always the gamble. It reminds me of watching Jay Cutler. He had some incredible throws, but he would make the same dumb mistakes that a rookie would make. Meanwhile the Bears fans made every excuse for him, the Bears upgraded the offense - the upgrade needed to be at qb.

 

[Mitchie]

He was traded for $50 and a case of beer and some of you think he a good shot to start in Pittsburgh, smh.

If Fields is equivalent to that, than what is Russ? Wooden nickel and a half a can of zima?

there are unique circumstances around Russ's situation that make the analogy inaccurate. The Steelers got a great value because of these circumstances.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He was traded for $50 and a case of beer and some of you think he a good shot to start in Pittsburgh, smh.

If Fields is equivalent to that, than what is Russ? Wooden nickel and a half a can of zima?

there are unique circumstances around Russ's situation that make the analogy inaccurate. The Steelers got a great value because of these circumstances.

The circumstances being that Russell Wilson was abjectly terrible in 2022, and marginally improved in 2023? Then he got benched at the end of the year in 2023.. So… Yeah.

 

[FairWarning]

He was traded for $50 and a case of beer and some of you think he a good shot to start in Pittsburgh, smh.

If Fields is equivalent to that, than what is Russ? Wooden nickel and a half a can of zima?

there are unique circumstances around Russ's situation that make the analogy inaccurate. The Steelers got a great value because of these circumstances.

If it doesn’t work out, the first two excuses you’ll hear is he had to learn another new system, and the OL couldn’t block long enough for him. One thing that the elite qbs do have is some stability with the coaching staff. I think this is very underrated. Idk what teams have to do, I guess pay more. Manning always had Tom Moore, Brady had his 1-2 guys, etc.

 

[efactor]

This will go a long way for their reputation with players.

If true, yes most definitely. It’s one of the worst business decisions but one of the best human interest decisions.

Again I'm sure it was minimal on any return he could have got otherwise. Brad Biggs, best Bears beat writer I know, said he heard from several sources that Poles had been hard working the phones the last few weeks trying to get some interest for Fields. I would disabuse yourself of the notion he turned down some great offer. Fields was valued as backup, maybe could have got a 5th instead or something, not a big deal.

That the Raiders or Broncos wouldn't muster up a 5th round pick for him says all we really need to know.

That they are bad franchises?

 

[dipandglide]

Fields is a good example of why you should cash out and sell into hype, especially at the quarterback position. Fantasy football isn't real life. The list of Fields types is LONG. I pivoted to Lamar before '23. I've lost my share of trades, but I will add that one to the win column!

P.S. - Pitt homers must love what their front office did in FA. Going from Pickett to Russ/JF for as cheap as they did was good work

 

[osubuckeyeman]

Fields is a good example of why you should cash out and sell into hype, especially at the quarterback position. Fantasy football isn't real life. The list of Fields types is LONG. I pivoted to Lamar before '23. I've lost my share of trades, but I will add that one to the win column!

He was on championship teams this year and most likely the year before. His elite running certainly played a role in many playoff runs. You can sell too early as much as selling high. I agree that selling high on anyone at the right time is smart. Determining the right time is the trick you have to learn.

 

[need2know]

Ita gonna be funny when fields turns out to be worse than pickett.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Fields is a good example of why you should cash out and sell into hype, especially at the quarterback position. Fantasy football isn't real life. The list of Fields types is LONG. I pivoted to Lamar before '23. I've lost my share of trades, but I will add that one to the win column!

He was on championship teams this year and most likely the year before. His elite running certainly played a role in many playoff runs. You can sell too early as much as selling high. I agree that selling high on anyone at the right time is smart. Determining the right time is the trick you have to learn.

I cashed a ship with him in 2023 in a 16-team SF IDP where I took over and rebuild an orphan. $2K in my pocket - thank you, Mr Fields for your contributions to my team & bank account. rest assured, I feel every bit as smart for that league victory as y’all do for selling before the bottom fell out.

And now I hold, hoping for a PIT reclamation project and a starting role in 2025.

One frequent trend in here seems to be folks kicking dirt on Fields’ grave. that seems premature to me, but whatever makes y'all happy I guess.

Another trend is the “I told ya so’s” - Fields is just 25 and it seems at least one team has a plan for him at the moment.

So that, too, seems somewhat premature.

You may resume shoveling to y’all’s hearts content.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Ita gonna be funny when fields turns out to be worse than pickett.

I’d bet against that.