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QB Match ups to Exploit/Avoid week 1 (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

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QB has got to be the one position where even when you have a stud you almost always have 1 or 2 other QBs and have to look over the match ups. A lot of teams have both Romo and Big Ben, or Kitna and Leinart, or even Hasselbeck plus Delhomme. So let’s try and sort this out and see who really has a good match up this weekend.

Must starts: I only list a couple of QBs in this category…mostly because of their stats and situations. I know Brees was awful last night but he would have been in this group so I am leaving him there.

P.Manning: Don’t have to think about this one really.

D.Brees: Awful last night, might be quickly moving out of the must start list.

M.Bulger: Still has Bruce, Bennett, McMichael, and SJax to throw it against…and Holt isn’t in as bad a shape as we were once lead to believe.

D.McNabb: Look at his stats over the last 18-19 games…they are on pace with Peyton Manning. Even if he is only healthy half the season, owners will roll up huge points form this guy.

Likely starts: I have a lot more to talk about with these QBs…some of them are going to be laughed at as to why they are not must starts but I have my reasons.

T.Brady: The thing about Brady and especially this week is he really hasn’y developed the timing with Moss, Stallworth, and to a lesser degree Wes Welker. I just have a funny feeling the Pats are going to run it down the Jets throat. I think Brady will be fine over the length of the season but he could easily post a 200 yd 1 TD performance on Sunday and leave owners wishing they had played something else that rotted on their bench.

T.Romo: I like him a lot this week and he should perform at a high level, however the Cowboys can run the football better IMO. And what I mean is they now have the ability to go out and probably produce 150-200 yds on the ground from the combo of JJ and MB III. And if Dallas gets a lead which I expect them to win this game easily, they might turn to running the ball a lot more in the 2nd half and keep Eli, Plax, and Shockey on the sidelines.

Big Ben: If everything we have read is true, then he should come out and light up the Browns for 300 yds this week. Why do I have some doubts about all of this? Most teams that have Big Ben, have him plus another topline QB of sorts so there is a decision to make here. I might want to let him sit for week 1 and watch the game closely to get a better feel for exactly what the Steelers will be doing post Cowher. If Ben looks great, you have 12-13 more weeks to plug him in all the time.

M.Leinart: People are ready to start playing him every week now and I would like to see what the offense looks like 1st. I know SF was pretty awful last year but Nate Clements will take away half the field, that can only help. They should have a bigger pash rush to help take some of the burden off the DBs as well. I might not be wheeling Matt out there in week 1.

M.Hasselbeck: A lot of sites are high on Matt this week. I admit the Bucs having to go cross country, could be rough for their defense to fight the good fight…however they are actually pretty good against the pass IMO. Rhonde Barber did not retire with Tiki and Cato June is an excellent coverage LB so this might not be a 250 yd 2 TD performance as many are seeming to indicate. We all know it’s pretty much a guessing game but I wouldn’t be that comfortable with Hass going against Kiffin’s defense…that guy is a mastermind on defense and will have something up his sleeve for Hass.

Brett Favre: Has really seen his TD slide the past couple of years. Driver has been banged up, running game is iffy…not sure he is a great start against Philly in week 1. He will throw a bunch though even in defeat so 250-300 yds is not out of the question..just worried about interceptions when he throws too much…sort of negates a 300 yd performance.

P.Rivers: You cannot be liking this match up against the Bears can you? Bears will be at full strength and have a couple of great CB including Tillman who just got a 6 year extension…I don’t like the Chargers to win this game so take it for what its worth. Rivers to me has a really tough match up and no experienced WR to throw to in week 1.

Carson Palmer: I am 90% sure that Palmer is a must start this week. However he does face stiff competition in Baltimore.

Middle of the Road: These are QBs that likely were selected as your QB2…but you are going to find that many of them offer nice match ups this week and a few you simply do not want to touch.

J.P.Losman: Denver is supposed to be better along the DL, but now they have Dre Bly opposite Champ Bailey. I think Losman will have a lot of trouble in this game and likely toss a couple of interceptions which will likely only further weaken his production this week. To me this is an easy pass situation.

J.Cutler: I know Buffalo offers some hope for Cutler owners this week. But remember that Cutler is going into his 2nd season and Denver is likely making a play for the division this year and the playoffs. I don’t think Shanny is going to ask Cutler to wing it 35 times on the road this week when his OL should be able to blow open holes in the Buffalo defense for Travis Henry to run through. I am reserved about Culter’s chances this weekend.

M.Schaub: I like this match up and think he will get the attention of owners quickly this week. I feel strongly he can post 200-250 yds and 1-2 scores this week. K.C has looked awful in the preseason and Schaub is a very nice sneaky play. Andre Johnson, Ahman Green, Owen Daniels, and Jacoby Jones will provide some nice weapons for him to throw to.

E.Manning: I think at the least he might get some garbage time points for his owners. I do think the Giants will struggle in this game but you couldn’t fault dynasty owners that have Eli as their #1 for starting him.

A.Smith: Has a good match up this week. Will be working for the 1st time with DJax, V.Davis(as the starter), A.Lelie and Battle who he is familiar with plus Frank Gore. This should be a fairly high scoring affair and I think Smith should post somewhere in the 220-240 range and has a good chance at 1-2 TD this weekend maybe even more if a shootout breaks out.

J.Delhomme: He better make it happen against the Rams. I have read a lot of place that are down on Jake this week but I think the Panthers will surprise some folks on Sunday. The Rams are not that strong against the pass so why shouldn’t jake and crew go out and do well in the EJ Dome?

J.Kitna: Oakland didn’t give up a lot of yds last year but they also couldn’t stop the run…and Detroit is not that great at running the ball so look for them to take to the air. Kitna may not have an world day but I like him to cross the 200-250 yd mark in this game. Oakland is not going to pitch a shutout with all the problems they have on offense right now.

C.Pennington: Look elsewhere…seriously. New England is going to roll out one of the best defenses in the NFL on Sunday.

V.Young: Against Jax this is not a prime match up to me. I understand he was drafted high but you cannot like this as a week 1 assignment for him. No weapons to throw to either…and no running game to support him…this could get ugly.

And the rest: These QBs were likely taken as late QB2 or possible QB3 in your league. Let’s have a look as there is some gold down in here.

Rex Grossman: I am going to go on record now as saying Grossman has top10 potential in FF. Look at his situation! He has a stout defense to cover up his mistakes, a solid OL to pass protect, and a running game that is pretty iffy so Rex might be called upon to win some of these games. San Diego has a very suspect defense and while I own Grossman, and will likely be sitting him this week…I am seriously thinking about wheeling him out against those Bolts. When Grossman does well in his games, he usually does VERY WELL…he started only 8 games b4 last season. 260/1, 290/4, 230/2, 180/2, 250/3, 240/3, 200/2, 340/2…I know he has some awful games to but he showed me a lot of promise. He has a safety valve in Muhammed and Clark this week, Berrian and Mark Bradley for the deep stuff, and his RB out of the backfield…I think he can do just fine and surprise owners this weekend. He is my “Why did I leave him on my bench” play of the week.

Steve McNair: Great match up but it is McNair…I don’t see him doing anything more than any other QB could do here. He had 245/0 in one contest last year and 227/1 in the other against the Bengals…he will not crack the top10 this week IMO even with a solid match up.

McCown/CPepp: I think both will be used in the game. If McCown starts I don’t think he will finish. Huge risk to start either this weekend.

J.Harrington: I don’t think Atlanta can run on the Vikes, and I don’t think Joey is going to make them pay thru the air either. Gonna be a long season for Falcons fans…sorry.

T.Green: Miami looks terrible on offense right now. I would not be starting many of them as they will be on the road and I expect them to get beat rather easily up in Washington this weekend.

Jason Campbell: Interesting match up as Miami has been touted as having a suspect secondary. It will not surprise me if he connects with Santana Moss on a few plays and puts up respectable numbers. 200 yds and 1-2 TD as Miami will try and shut down the run.

J.Garcia: I think it’s asking a lot for him to storm Seattle and post great numbers. He will have his weeks but I am not looking for more than about 200 yds from him on Sunday.

And finally…these are the bottom of the barrel. Some may have decent match ups but the QBs will not be able to exploit the situations IMO.

D.Garrard: I get the shakes thinking about having to start him

D.Huard: Healthy dose of LJ and limited passing from him.

T.Jackson: I’ll let you fill this in.

C.Frye: I expect to see Brady within a month.

 
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If you're starting Tarvaris Jackson you have a 30 team league.

I think you hit all the high spots. No complaints here. I have to decide between Big Ben and Kitna and I'm pretty much locked into Big Ben for this week based on Match-Ups.

 
If you're starting Tarvaris Jackson you have a 30 team league.I think you hit all the high spots. No complaints here. I have to decide between Big Ben and Kitna and I'm pretty much locked into Big Ben for this week based on Match-Ups.
Here's the thing...you know Detroit even in defeat is going to go down throwing till the final seconds tick off...not so sure with Pitt and Big Ben.
 
If you're starting Tarvaris Jackson you have a 30 team league.I think you hit all the high spots. No complaints here. I have to decide between Big Ben and Kitna and I'm pretty much locked into Big Ben for this week based on Match-Ups.
I have the same decision and Im pretty confident starting Kitna. Pitt might just run the ball down Clevelands throats. I expect a low scoring game not a high scoring affair like others may see. In Detroit's case, theyre gonna pass a ton no matter who they are playing. Test out their new toys. I expect a solid game from both but Im starting Kitna.
 
If you're starting Tarvaris Jackson you have a 30 team league.I think you hit all the high spots. No complaints here. I have to decide between Big Ben and Kitna and I'm pretty much locked into Big Ben for this week based on Match-Ups.
Here's the thing...you know Detroit even in defeat is going to go down throwing till the final seconds tick off...not so sure with Pitt and Big Ben.
Yeah, but I like Parker to take a swing pass to the house and I don't like that Oakland who has a fairly decent defense and is at home can just ignore the run altogether.There will be plenty of time to put Kitna in when the Minnesota Vikings are on the docket.
 
Good call on Peyton. Not so much with Brees. :goodposting:
I was being truthful with Brees...I would have listed them there for week 1.Must starts are really guys where it would be almost impossible to make an argument for starting one QB over them based on their abilities or track record.
 
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I'd move Trent Green down into the bottom of the barrel. Really, he's looked shell-shocked out there.

I'd also move garcia to middle-of-the-road. He won't light it up passing but he also doesn't turn it over. 225/1/0 with 20 rushing isn't out of line for him.

 
QB has got to be the one position where even when you have a stud you almost always have 1 or 2 other QBs and have to look over the match ups. A lot of teams have both Romo and Big Ben, or Kitna and Leinart, or even Hasselbeck plus Delhomme. So let’s try and sort this out and see who really has a good match up this weekend.

Must starts: I only list a couple of QBs in this category…mostly because of their stats and situations. I know Brees was awful last night but he would have been in this group so I am leaving him there.

P.Manning: Don’t have to think about this one really.

D.Brees: Awful last night, might be quickly moving out of the must start list.

M.Bulger: Still has Bruce, Bennett, McMichael, and SJax to throw it against…and Holt isn’t in as bad a shape as we were once lead to believe.

D.McNabb: Look at his stats over the last 18-19 games…they are on pace with Peyton Manning. Even if he is only healthy half the season, owners will roll up huge points form this guy.

Likely starts: I have a lot more to talk about with these QBs…some of them are going to be laughed at as to why they are not must starts but I have my reasons.

T.Brady: The thing about Brady and especially this week is he really hasn’y developed the timing with Moss, Stallworth, and to a lesser degree Wes Welker. I just have a funny feeling the Pats are going to run it down the Jets throat. I think Brady will be fine over the length of the season but he could easily post a 200 yd 1 TD performance on Sunday and leave owners wishing they had played something else that rotted on their bench.

T.Romo: I like him a lot this week and he should perform at a high level, however the Cowboys can run the football better IMO. And what I mean is they now have the ability to go out and probably produce 150-200 yds on the ground from the combo of JJ and MB III. And if Dallas gets a lead which I expect them to win this game easily, they might turn to running the ball a lot more in the 2nd half and keep Eli, Plax, and Shockey on the sidelines.

Big Ben: If everything we have read is true, then he should come out and light up the Browns for 300 yds this week. Why do I have some doubts about all of this? Most teams that have Big Ben, have him plus another topline QB of sorts so there is a decision to make here. I might want to let him sit for week 1 and watch the game closely to get a better feel for exactly what the Steelers will be doing post Cowher. If Ben looks great, you have 12-13 more weeks to plug him in all the time.

M.Leinart: People are ready to start playing him every week now and I would like to see what the offense looks like 1st. I know SF was pretty awful last year but Nate Clements will take away half the field, that can only help. They should have a bigger pash rush to help take some of the burden off the DBs as well. I might not be wheeling Matt out there in week 1.

M.Hasselbeck: A lot of sites are high on Matt this week. I admit the Bucs having to go cross country, could be rough for their defense to fight the good fight…however they are actually pretty good against the pass IMO. Rhonde Barber did not retire with Tiki and Cato June is an excellent coverage LB so this might not be a 250 yd 2 TD performance as many are seeming to indicate. We all know it’s pretty much a guessing game but I wouldn’t be that comfortable with Hass going against Kiffin’s defense…that guy is a mastermind on defense and will have something up his sleeve for Hass.

Brett Favre: Has really seen his TD slide the past couple of years. Driver has been banged up, running game is iffy…not sure he is a great start against Philly in week 1. He will throw a bunch though even in defeat so 250-300 yds is not out of the question..just worried about interceptions when he throws too much…sort of negates a 300 yd performance.

P.Rivers: You cannot be liking this match up against the Bears can you? Bears will be at full strength and have a couple of great CB including Tillman who just got a 6 year extension…I don’t like the Chargers to win this game so take it for what its worth. Rivers to me has a really tough match up and no experienced WR to throw to in week 1.

Carson Palmer: I am 90% sure that Palmer is a must start this week. However he does face stiff competition in Baltimore.

Middle of the Road: These are QBs that likely were selected as your QB2…but you are going to find that many of them offer nice match ups this week and a few you simply do not want to touch.

J.P.Losman: Denver is supposed to be better along the DL, but now they have Dre Bly opposite Champ Bailey. I think Losman will have a lot of trouble in this game and likely toss a couple of interceptions which will likely only further weaken his production this week. To me this is an easy pass situation.

J.Cutler: I know Buffalo offers some hope for Cutler owners this week. But remember that Cutler is going into his 2nd season and Denver is likely making a play for the division this year and the playoffs. I don’t think Shanny is going to ask Cutler to wing it 35 times on the road this week when his OL should be able to blow open holes in the Buffalo defense for Travis Henry to run through. I am reserved about Culter’s chances this weekend.

M.Schaub: I like this match up and think he will get the attention of owners quickly this week. I feel strongly he can post 200-250 yds and 1-2 scores this week. K.C has looked awful in the preseason and Schaub is a very nice sneaky play. Andre Johnson, Ahman Green, Owen Daniels, and Jacoby Jones will provide some nice weapons for him to throw to.

E.Manning: I think at the least he might get some garbage time points for his owners. I do think the Giants will struggle in this game but you couldn’t fault dynasty owners that have Eli as their #1 for starting him.

A.Smith: Has a good match up this week. Will be working for the 1st time with DJax, V.Davis(as the starter), A.Lelie and Battle who he is familiar with plus Frank Gore. This should be a fairly high scoring affair and I think Smith should post somewhere in the 220-240 range and has a good chance at 1-2 TD this weekend maybe even more if a shootout breaks out.

J.Delhomme: He better make it happen against the Rams. I have read a lot of place that are down on Jake this week but I think the Panthers will surprise some folks on Sunday. The Rams are not that strong against the pass so why shouldn’t jake and crew go out and do well in the EJ Dome?

J.Kitna: Oakland didn’t give up a lot of yds last year but they also couldn’t stop the run…and Detroit is not that great at running the ball so look for them to take to the air. Kitna may not have an world day but I like him to cross the 200-250 yd mark in this game. Oakland is not going to pitch a shutout with all the problems they have on offense right now.

C.Pennington: Look elsewhere…seriously. New England is going to roll out one of the best defenses in the NFL on Sunday.

V.Young: Against Jax this is not a prime match up to me. I understand he was drafted high but you cannot like this as a week 1 assignment for him. No weapons to throw to either…and no running game to support him…this could get ugly.

And the rest: These QBs were likely taken as late QB2 or possible QB3 in your league. Let’s have a look as there is some gold down in here.

Rex Grossman: I am going to go on record now as saying Grossman has top10 potential in FF. Look at his situation! He has a stout defense to cover up his mistakes, a solid OL to pass protect, and a running game that is pretty iffy so Rex might be called upon to win some of these games. San Diego has a very suspect defense and while I own Grossman, and will likely be sitting him this week…I am seriously thinking about wheeling him out against those Bolts. When Grossman does well in his games, he usually does VERY WELL…he started only 8 games b4 last season. 260/1, 290/4, 230/2, 180/2, 250/3, 240/3, 200/2, 340/2…I know he has some awful games to but he showed me a lot of promise. He has a safety valve in Muhammed and Clark this week, Berrian and Mark Bradley for the deep stuff, and his RB out of the backfield…I think he can do just fine and surprise owners this weekend. He is my “Why did I leave him on my bench” play of the week.

Steve McNair: Great match up but it is McNair…I don’t see him doing anything more than any other QB could do here. He had 245/0 in one contest last year and 227/1 in the other against the Bengals…he will not crack the top10 this week IMO even with a solid match up.

McCown/CPepp: I think both will be used in the game. If McCown starts I don’t think he will finish. Huge risk to start either this weekend.

J.Harrington: I don’t think Atlanta can run on the Vikes, and I don’t think Joey is going to make them pay thru the air either. Gonna be a long season for Falcons fans…sorry.

T.Green: Miami looks terrible on offense right now. I would not be starting many of them as they will be on the road and I expect them to get beat rather easily up in Washington this weekend.

Jason Campbell: Interesting match up as Miami has been touted as having a suspect secondary. It will not surprise me if he connects with Santana Moss on a few plays and puts up respectable numbers. 200 yds and 1-2 TD as Miami will try and shut down the run.

J.Garcia: I think it’s asking a lot for him to storm Seattle and post great numbers. He will have his weeks but I am not looking for more than about 200 yds from him on Sunday.

And finally…these are the bottom of the barrel. Some may have decent match ups but the QBs will not be able to exploit the situations IMO.

D.Garrard: I get the shakes thinking about having to start him

D.Huard: Healthy dose of LJ and limited passing from him.

T.Jackson: I’ll let you fill this in.

C.Frye: I expect to see Brady within a month.
MOP I hope your right about Rex. I took this guy as my number 1 QB well only QB for now and loaded up on RBs and WRs. I think this guys ooozes top 10 potential and I plan on riding him this year.Please let us both be right about this guy...pleasssssssssse!

 
M.Schaub: I like this match up and think he will get the attention of owners quickly this week. I feel strongly he can post 200-250 yds and 1-2 scores this week. K.C has looked awful in the preseason and Schaub is a very nice sneaky play. Andre Johnson, Ahman Green, Owen Daniels, and Jacoby Jones will provide some nice weapons for him to throw to.
I think Schaub should've been one category higher than where you have him. Your own words seem to make that argument.
 
I'd move Trent Green down into the bottom of the barrel. Really, he's looked shell-shocked out there.I'd also move garcia to middle-of-the-road. He won't light it up passing but he also doesn't turn it over. 225/1/0 with 20 rushing isn't out of line for him.
Good points JB, this is my 1st time really trying to put a QB thread into play for all the starters so it will take some time to evolve perhaps. I tried to in week 1 go with the approximate ADP of the QBs and Garcia was typically a QB3 in most of my redrafts.
 
M.Schaub: I like this match up and think he will get the attention of owners quickly this week. I feel strongly he can post 200-250 yds and 1-2 scores this week. K.C has looked awful in the preseason and Schaub is a very nice sneaky play. Andre Johnson, Ahman Green, Owen Daniels, and Jacoby Jones will provide some nice weapons for him to throw to.
I think Schaub should've been one category higher than where you have him. Your own words seem to make that argument.
I didn't list the QBs just in order of where I think they will finish...not at all. I went more according to where the ADP was for most of them...I would have put Grossman up a couple of groups but he went as a QB3 in a lot of my redrafts. Next week I may start ranking them a bit but I want people to see that not all QB1 are automatic starts.
 
M.Schaub: I like this match up and think he will get the attention of owners quickly this week. I feel strongly he can post 200-250 yds and 1-2 scores this week. K.C has looked awful in the preseason and Schaub is a very nice sneaky play. Andre Johnson, Ahman Green, Owen Daniels, and Jacoby Jones will provide some nice weapons for him to throw to.
I think Schaub should've been one category higher than where you have him. Your own words seem to make that argument.
I didn't list the QBs just in order of where I think they will finish...not at all. I went more according to where the ADP was for most of them...I would have put Grossman up a couple of groups but he went as a QB3 in a lot of my redrafts. Next week I may start ranking them a bit but I want people to see that not all QB1 are automatic starts.
Your making me feel a little better about selecting Rex in the 11th round :confused:
 
I'd move Trent Green down into the bottom of the barrel. Really, he's looked shell-shocked out there.I'd also move garcia to middle-of-the-road. He won't light it up passing but he also doesn't turn it over. 225/1/0 with 20 rushing isn't out of line for him.
Good points JB, this is my 1st time really trying to put a QB thread into play for all the starters so it will take some time to evolve perhaps. I tried to in week 1 go with the approximate ADP of the QBs and Garcia was typically a QB3 in most of my redrafts.
:confused: MOP, You have me rethinking my decision to go with Leinart over Buolger. I'll check in and let you know what I decide.
 
I put Schaub in over Kitna last night. I was a little worried about the Oakland D. I like that we were thinking similarly and with R.Wayne have a grand game last night I just want decent, I don't need homerun out of QB this week, I think Schaub might be the safer pick with some upside as well at home.

 
Im thinking about benching Young for Favre.. I dont like either M/U but Young vs Jax last season was a joke

 
I put Schaub in over Kitna last night. I was a little worried about the Oakland D. I like that we were thinking similarly and with R.Wayne have a grand game last night I just want decent, I don't need homerun out of QB this week, I think Schaub might be the safer pick with some upside as well at home.
I'm actually starting Schaub over Rivers this week. I wrestled with the decision for a few days, but I think this is the right call. We shall see.
 
V.Young: Against Jax this is not a prime match up to me. I understand he was drafted high but you cannot like this as a week 1 assignment for him. No weapons to throw to either…and no running game to support him…this could get ugly.
I realize that he had 2 bad games vs. JAX last year but I really don't understand why he's a "bench" pretty much everywhere you look this week. We knew coming into the year his supporting cast would be weak so that's not a great reason to bump him down so far for week 1, IMO. Are you down on him for the year, is it last years games, or is there something else I'm missing?

 
Your making me feel a little better about selecting Rex in the 11th round :popcorn:
Me too, but I'm just not there yet with putting him in over Rivers this week. Since they're both 4:15 PM EST starts, I guess I could wait to see if I need to pull a rabbit out of my hat or not for a win and then go from there.
 
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V.Young: Against Jax this is not a prime match up to me. I understand he was drafted high but you cannot like this as a week 1 assignment for him. No weapons to throw to either…and no running game to support him…this could get ugly.
I realize that he had 2 bad games vs. JAX last year but I really don't understand why he's a "bench" pretty much everywhere you look this week. We knew coming into the year his supporting cast would be weak so that's not a great reason to bump him down so far for week 1, IMO. Are you down on him for the year, is it last years games, or is there something else I'm missing?
Hey Eagle Eye, good to see you.I definitely am not as high on Young as a lot of others but this week I think Jax is going to be out for blood as they lost their starting QB right b4 camp closed so I think there will be added incentive on their defense to shut down Young. They can committ most of their LB to the run support and have 1 if not 2 LB or a LB and a DB spy in on Young and catch him when he tries to take off. I don't see a lot of good happening for him on the road in week 1.

 
I put Schaub in over Kitna last night. I was a little worried about the Oakland D. I like that we were thinking similarly and with R.Wayne have a grand game last night I just want decent, I don't need homerun out of QB this week, I think Schaub might be the safer pick with some upside as well at home.
I'm actually starting Schaub over Rivers this week. I wrestled with the decision for a few days, but I think this is the right call. We shall see.
I like that play this week.
 
If you're starting Tarvaris Jackson you have a 30 team league.I think you hit all the high spots. No complaints here. I have to decide between Big Ben and Kitna and I'm pretty much locked into Big Ben for this week based on Match-Ups.
Or your in a 14 team league that starts 2 QBs like me. Some teams have 3 QBs above Tarvaris, ...... one team will have to decide between Tarvaris Jackson and JaMarcus Russel for the #2QB all season.... ouch.
 
V.Young: Against Jax this is not a prime match up to me. I understand he was drafted high but you cannot like this as a week 1 assignment for him. No weapons to throw to either…and no running game to support him…this could get ugly.
I realize that he had 2 bad games vs. JAX last year but I really don't understand why he's a "bench" pretty much everywhere you look this week. We knew coming into the year his supporting cast would be weak so that's not a great reason to bump him down so far for week 1, IMO. Are you down on him for the year, is it last years games, or is there something else I'm missing?
Hey Eagle Eye, good to see you.I definitely am not as high on Young as a lot of others but this week I think Jax is going to be out for blood as they lost their starting QB right b4 camp closed so I think there will be added incentive on their defense to shut down Young. They can committ most of their LB to the run support and have 1 if not 2 LB or a LB and a DB spy in on Young and catch him when he tries to take off. I don't see a lot of good happening for him on the road in week 1.
Backatcha, MOP.I'm a sucker for a running QB so I have high hopes for him this year. I think the Leftwich fallout could go either way but your point about Jax having the right scheme against him makes sense. I backed him up with Hass (still there in the 9th of a 12 team draft) so I'll wait a week on Young.

 
If you're starting Tarvaris Jackson you have a 30 team league.I think you hit all the high spots. No complaints here. I have to decide between Big Ben and Kitna and I'm pretty much locked into Big Ben for this week based on Match-Ups.
I have the same decision and Im pretty confident starting Kitna. Pitt might just run the ball down Clevelands throats. I expect a low scoring game not a high scoring affair like others may see. In Detroit's case, theyre gonna pass a ton no matter who they are playing. Test out their new toys. I expect a solid game from both but Im starting Kitna.
I'm in the same boat...Kitna or Big Ben.For now, I'm leaning (hard) towards starting Big Ben as:1. He's healthy whereas Kitna has had back problems throughout preseason;2. He's facing the Browns and Kitna is facing a pretty stout Oakland D.3. I think Pittsburgh unveils the "new" spread offense this week.
 
If you're starting Tarvaris Jackson you have a 30 team league.

I think you hit all the high spots. No complaints here. I have to decide between Big Ben and Kitna and I'm pretty much locked into Big Ben for this week based on Match-Ups.
I have the same decision and Im pretty confident starting Kitna. Pitt might just run the ball down Clevelands throats. I expect a low scoring game not a high scoring affair like others may see. In Detroit's case, theyre gonna pass a ton no matter who they are playing. Test out their new toys. I expect a solid game from both but Im starting Kitna.
I'm in the same boat...Kitna or Big Ben.For now, I'm leaning (hard) towards starting Big Ben as:

1. He's healthy whereas Kitna has had back problems throughout preseason;

2. He's facing the Browns and Kitna is facing a pretty stout Oakland D.

3. I think Pittsburgh unveils the "new" spread offense this week.
1. Kitna's health is fine2. I agree

3. You think Pitt will unveil the new spread offense, I know Detroit will pass all day.

 
3. You think Pitt will unveil the new spread offense, I know Detroit will pass all day.
:hifive: I understand all the reasonings for wanting to believe this, new HC, spread offense minded OC, etc. But it does seem like I hear this every year with the Steelers, so I'm in the see it before I believe camp too.
 
If you're starting Tarvaris Jackson you have a 30 team league.

I think you hit all the high spots. No complaints here. I have to decide between Big Ben and Kitna and I'm pretty much locked into Big Ben for this week based on Match-Ups.
I have the same decision and Im pretty confident starting Kitna. Pitt might just run the ball down Clevelands throats. I expect a low scoring game not a high scoring affair like others may see. In Detroit's case, theyre gonna pass a ton no matter who they are playing. Test out their new toys. I expect a solid game from both but Im starting Kitna.
I'm in the same boat...Kitna or Big Ben.For now, I'm leaning (hard) towards starting Big Ben as:

1. He's healthy whereas Kitna has had back problems throughout preseason;

2. He's facing the Browns and Kitna is facing a pretty stout Oakland D.

3. I think Pittsburgh unveils the "new" spread offense this week.
1. Kitna's health is fine2. I agree

3. You think Pitt will unveil the new spread offense, I know Detroit will pass all day.
:thumbup: I think Pitt will run more against the Browns, as Cleveland's rush defense is horrible. I don't see this as being a high scoring game for Pitt, but I wouldn't be surprised to see FWP come out with more fantasy pts than Big Ben this weekend.

 
3. You think Pitt will unveil the new spread offense, I know Detroit will pass all day.
:thumbup: I understand all the reasonings for wanting to believe this, new HC, spread offense minded OC, etc. But it does seem like I hear this every year with the Steelers, so I'm in the see it before I believe camp too.
If eveyone that reads Trap Play's posts would focus on his avatar and picture/hear EVH saying what is being written...Gold! :homer:

 
More food for thought on the Big Ben vs. Kitna debate.

Football guys (both sheets) have Big Ben rated against Kitna but it's close enough to be a coin flip.

We'll see on Sunday.

In this case I like picking the weaker "D" over all the other arguments and Cleveland has an awful defense.

 
[i'm a sucker for a running QB so I have high hopes for him this year. I think the Leftwich fallout could go either way but your point about Jax having the right scheme against him makes sense. I backed him up with Hass (still there in the 9th of a 12 team draft) so I'll wait a week on Young.
looking at his fantasy points by week last year, the two jax games really stand out. hard to start him if you have anybody else (sounds like you do!). i'm with you on the running - i drafted him in my league with the biggest diff. between pass and rush td's.
 
3. You think Pitt will unveil the new spread offense, I know Detroit will pass all day.
:goodposting: I understand all the reasonings for wanting to believe this, new HC, spread offense minded OC, etc. But it does seem like I hear this every year with the Steelers, so I'm in the see it before I believe camp too.
Because they have a new coach with a new philosophy and a new offensive coordinator with new schemes every year? :goodposting:
 
Uh, good analysis on Ben - I do have another good QB. But it's Hasslebeck, whom you are skeptical about. I tried to read between the lines, but I can't tell who you would pick between Ben and Hass. What say you? I am leaning towards Hasslebeck because he is at home and we don't know what the Steelers would do.

Why can't these guys have these good matchups on different weeks???

 
I figure the Steelers to spread the field and come out throwing. Now I'm not sure that they'll have to throw all day, but if you remember how they rolled through the playoffs a couple of years ago, it was throw the ball early to get the lead and then run out the clock as much as possible in the second half. But I fully expect Ben to have a couple of TD tosses in the first half of this game.

 
Uh, good analysis on Ben - I do have another good QB. But it's Hasslebeck, whom you are skeptical about. I tried to read between the lines, but I can't tell who you would pick between Ben and Hass. What say you? I am leaning towards Hasslebeck because he is at home and we don't know what the Steelers would do.Why can't these guys have these good matchups on different weeks???
That's another pick'em.After the games you'll either be doing this :thumbup: or this :thumbup: . Same thing with us Ben and Kitna folks.
 
Great thread as usual MOP. :thumbup:

Disagree with your thoughts on the Chi/SD matchup, which shouldn't surprise since I'm a Charger homer. Charger defensive backs aren't nearly as bad as they appear statistically and they're improved with Weddle and Cromartie being healthy. Their numbers are so poor from '06 because they faced the most passes against in the entire NFL, in part b/c the Chargers offense was so good and in part b/c the Charger run D is so dominate.

Rivers will exploit the Chicago passing game as the Bears will play a lot of man to stack the box against LT.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Eagle Eye said:
V.Young: Against Jax this is not a prime match up to me. I understand he was drafted high but you cannot like this as a week 1 assignment for him. No weapons to throw to either…and no running game to support him…this could get ugly.
I realize that he had 2 bad games vs. JAX last year but I really don't understand why he's a "bench" pretty much everywhere you look this week. We knew coming into the year his supporting cast would be weak so that's not a great reason to bump him down so far for week 1, IMO. Are you down on him for the year, is it last years games, or is there something else I'm missing?
Hey Eagle Eye, good to see you.I definitely am not as high on Young as a lot of others but this week I think Jax is going to be out for blood as they lost their starting QB right b4 camp closed so I think there will be added incentive on their defense to shut down Young. They can committ most of their LB to the run support and have 1 if not 2 LB or a LB and a DB spy in on Young and catch him when he tries to take off. I don't see a lot of good happening for him on the road in week 1.
Great point MOP - I think people see Young and his upside and have forgotten the JAX D is pretty righteous. It's a really tough matchup.Of course, in a one ragtag dynasty league it's him, Huard or Garca, so no choice I have is pretty.

It's ugly and this thread only confirms it.

 
Because they have a new coach with a new philosophy and a new offensive coordinator with new schemes every year? :yes:
I guess it just seemed like back in the Cowher days they'd always talk about opening up the offense, and then during the first week of the season it was all about the running game. Of course, those kinda of pre-season comments and 180s during the regular season aren't the exclusive province of the Steelers by any stretch, but it just sticks out in my mind the most.
 
Because they have a new coach with a new philosophy and a new offensive coordinator with new schemes every year? :thumbup:
I guess it just seemed like back in the Cowher days they'd always talk about opening up the offense, and then during the first week of the season it was all about the running game. Of course, those kinda of pre-season comments and 180s during the regular season aren't the exclusive province of the Steelers by any stretch, but it just sticks out in my mind the most.
This is no longer the Cowher era...a new head coach is in town and he has no association with the Steelers. That's what I find so shocking about Mike Tomlin's desire to hire an offensive co-ordinator that will go to the spread offense...Tomlin has predominantly a defensive background.
 
My only real debate this weekend is Kitna and Favre. Wasn't much of a thinker though, gotta go with pass happy Detroit. I personally think Oakland was a paper tiger last season when you consider how bad their offense was. #1 pass D? You would be too if no team really needed to throw a single pass to beat them last season.

Favre was out for me after what I read on Sportsline. I never realized how bad he does against Philly, but it does make sense. Looks like we should expect a 200/1/2 game from Favre:

When Andy Reid left the Packers to coach the Eagles in 1999, he took with him the gameplan to tame Brett Favre. Since Reid left, he's gone up against Favre six times including one postseason game. In those contests, Favre never threw for more than 205 yards, threw two touchdowns once and no touchdowns three times and was picked off at least once per game and as many as three times (11 picks total). Moreover, Green Bay has only won once against the Eagles since Reid took over.
 
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I put Schaub in over Kitna last night. I was a little worried about the Oakland D. I like that we were thinking similarly and with R.Wayne have a grand game last night I just want decent, I don't need homerun out of QB this week, I think Schaub might be the safer pick with some upside as well at home.
This is a poor decision, imo. While I agree that Schaub is undervalued by most fantasy owners, this is still his first real game on a new team in a new offensive system. And with KC trying to grind it out on the ground and play ball control, the Texans should have no need to air it out. I expect them to have a balanced, conservative gameplan.Kitna OTOH, is probably going to throw the rock 40+ times this game, as I expect the Raiders defense to shut down Detroit's poor running game. It's his 2nd year in the Martz system, and he has more weapons around him this season w/CJ2 and Macdonald. Teams are going to have fits all year trying to cover the Lions' WR3 and WR4. This is also sort of a start your studs situation as well.
 

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